I had so much fun today posting a reply to Sandralee and Peanut Butter! I found 2 really neat things to put them off their pedestal.
The first is a game called WWJD. For these 2 I put them like this:
Let’s play WWJD about this. What do you think Jesus would do in each case?
1. Would Jesus tell anyone to starve because of their sin?
2. Would he not allow anyone to have an apartment or roof over their heads, food
and water? Because of their sin?
3. Would Jesus tell anyone that they have no right to eat at a restaurant. Because
of their sin?
4. Would Jesus tell anyone to punish sinners here while we are here on Earth, instead
of leaving ALL PUNISHMENT to Jesus. Because of their sin?
Would Jesus tell us that us that the 2nd of the last commandments [of which there is only 2;] is one of the 2 that could be ignored because we are supposed to hate someone’s sin - which is none of anyone’s business except Jesus' in the first place?
It’s up to Jesus to hear confessions of sins and repentance, not ours. It is Jesus that will forgive us our sins, not you or the others that believe as you do.
And not only that, Sandralee, I don’t live the way I live, following Jesus our Lord -
for you, - I live this way for Jesus. ONLY.
So if you think I am wrong, go talk to him again. Read the scriptures and prove that there was any harshness when Jesus spoke to anyone. If there had been it would have been pointed out. Please don’t point out the Scribes and the Pharisee or the church of the money lenders.
I should warn you that you won’t find it.
Then later in my lovely long ramble, lol, I said this:
So tell me what kind of things you say when you encounter any gays, Sandralee.
Do you rebuke them and tell them they are damned to Hell, Sandralee?
What do you say to the gays on a platform when you want to tell them their sins, and rebuke them right there in the public’s face?
Oh yeah, and would you want anyone to do that to you, anything that you would do to them?
Put yourself in their place as a sinner, not necessarily gay, but a sinner as we are, every one of us.
Now take away your home/apartment….
Now take away your food, water, and anything you use in your daily life….
Take away your ability to go into any store you want to buy clothes in.
Take away your ability to choose which restaurant you are able to eat in….
And now put into place, the people who will humiliate, and demean you with words,
so everyone in the whole world thinks you are worthless and should not have any
rights until you repent and accept the hope of Salvation.
How does that fit for you?
As a sinner, this is what you are saying is the right way to treat a sinner. Homosexuality is no bigger a sin as any other sin. God is no respecter of persons. One will not get more or less than the other sinner that does not repent. He does not care who you are if you are determined to sin without repentance. Everyone will have the same punishment, for sins Period. It’s in the scriptures.
I am feeling good mostly because I stopped myself from saying anything with bad intention, so I kept my Christians' light in tact.
I don't think I thought about the last prod for understanding - the treat people the way you want to be treated, came right out of no where. lol. I am however, going to give God the glory for it. He has been helping me with my posts so I can't deny him the glory!
So, how do you guys like these for Fundies? They are going to be hard pressed to talk their way out of both of these, I think. I am praying!
I think I'm getting closer to the solution with these ideas, guys. Of course, Fundies won't approve, but maybe some of the Christians that aren't Fundies will rethink what they do to gays.
I'm feeling good tonight and all ready for church tomorrow! Good night all, and Good morning all! God bless!