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Re: Bronies vs. Andrew Beibart's people
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2012, 11:18:33 am »
I really, really don't understand the whole "Bronies vs. Anti-Bronies" conflict on the internet.  Sure, I guess it may seem weird for grown men to watch a cartoon whose intended audience is little kids, but it wouldn't be the first time that has happened.
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Honestly, the only negative thing that I could say about Bronies is that some of them tend to be a bit too enthusiastic, bordering on obsessive, about their fandom.  But every fandom has those types of people, so it seems pointless to single out Bronies for criticism on that front.

Long story short: They lack restraint and don't know when to stop.

The "Brony" phenomenon originated on /b/ and /co/ on 4chan. The word "brony" itself was coined there. Everything was fine in the beginning, and sometimes it was even fun, but the fandom exploded in the early summer of 2011, which brought in ton of new people to the boards. That's when the fandom started getting really creepy and obsessive, posting pony porn everywhere even though /co/ is a worksafe board. On top of that, they would spam the board with pony threads at every available opportunity and they would spam pony macros in completely unrelated threads. It wasn't limited to just /co/ either. They would spam them everywhere across the entire site. It got so bad that the mods had to ban people from creating more than one pony thread at a time, and ban people who posted ponies outside of the pony thread. The bronies promply proceeded to ignore these new rules and spammed even more out of spite. Then after much begging from just about everyone, moot created /mlp/ to wall them off in their own ghetto.

This is only the story of how it happened on one site, but similar events replicated themselves on a lot of different sites. Something Awful had to ban any and all pony threads and the TVTropes page for MLP is rapidly shaping up to be the world's longest novel.

That's not even getting into "clopping" and "clopart". When your fandom has invented it's own words for masturbation and porn, then something is very wrong. A lot of people see it as "defiling" an innocent show intended for little girls.

As someone who is part of the fandom, THIS. There are WAY too many assholes in the fandom, and the worst part decent people like myself get most of the blow back. And something similar happened on here a couple of months ago (the worst part, was that it was coupled with a whole agruement over sugar), which caused much drama.
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Re: Bronies vs. Andrew Beibart's people
« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2012, 01:46:10 pm »
People are just dumb and so insecure they can't cope with the possibility of being proven wrong.

Also, perhaps a distinction between bronies and "brundies" or something needs to be made.

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« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2012, 02:09:26 pm »
I actually think MLP:FiM is quite well-produced compared to other children's shows today, but I'm not really into MLP as a whole. I respect the show's production value but the topic just doesn't interest me. I have nothing against bronies and other people who watch MLP despite being outside of the target demographic. One of my best friends is my age and she is a huge fan of MLP. (For her birthday I got her a plushie of Pinkie Pie, her favorite character. Cue much squeeing and bear-hugging.) She's a normal person, not a creep or a freak, and I must admit that this hate on bronies as a whole for the actions of a certain subset really bothers me. It's as if they are held to a higher standard than all other fandoms simply because of the topic of the show.

Anyway, regarding Breitbart, he's just mad because he's not manly enough to watch MLP without feeling insecure. Real men aren't afraid of shows made for little girls.
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Re: Bronies vs. Andrew Beibart's people
« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2012, 02:27:06 pm »
"I'm so manly I shriek and cower in fear at all things related to females!"

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« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2012, 02:37:09 pm »
It's as if they are held to a higher standard than all other fandoms simply because of the topic of the show.

I concur.

So am I the only one who has a hard time taking the blog post seriously?
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Re: Bronies vs. Andrew Beibart's people
« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2012, 02:39:37 pm »
No. It's absolutely ridiculous.

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« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2012, 03:29:56 pm »
Beibart's kinda...dead.

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« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2012, 03:46:36 pm »
"I'm so manly I shriek and cower in fear at all things related to females!"

Yeah, I mean it's one thing not to like something because of its "feminine" subject matter, but to be afraid of it is rather messed up.

Once I went over to another family's house, and the mother there only wanted me to play with her daughters (who were my age). But I was sick of playing with dolls and those girls refused to play anything else, so I decided to join their older brother, who was playing some sort of video game. (My only memory of the game was that there was a part where his jailor reads him a poem about his love of the color gray.) However, when their mother found out that I was playing with an older boy, she promptly flipped her shit and ordered me to play with her daughters again.
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Re: Bronies vs. Andrew Beibart's people
« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2012, 05:00:42 pm »
Well, 4chan is the hellhole of the English-speaking internet, we all know that.  I lurk there periodically and it seems to keep getting worse every year.  (On the plus side, gawking at the human flotsam that makes up 4chan's user base goes a long way in making me feel better about my own life.)

Again, I don't think there is anything wrong with adults liking a "kids' show", but you must remember that 4chan upholds the concept of perverting all which they perceive to be pure and clean.  But all the Rule 34/43 stuff doesn't necessarily serve as an indictment of the whole fandom.  We're not talking about *shudder* furries here, after all.
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« Reply #24 on: April 28, 2012, 06:03:03 pm »
MLP is anthropomorphized animals. Bronies ARE furries. (or was that the joke)

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« Reply #25 on: April 28, 2012, 06:12:14 pm »
MLP is anthropomorphized animals. Bronies ARE furries. (or was that the joke)

Well, I'm sure there is some overlap.
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« Reply #26 on: April 28, 2012, 06:48:08 pm »
IMHO, it's not overlap. It's a subset. Furries are fans of anthropomorphic animal characters, usually in cartoon form. MLP is anthropomorphic cartoon animal characters. So bronies are furries by definition.

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Re: Bronies vs. Andrew Beibart's people
« Reply #27 on: April 28, 2012, 06:57:46 pm »
IMHO, it's not overlap. It's a subset. Furries are fans of anthropomorphic animal characters, usually in cartoon form. MLP is anthropomorphic cartoon animal characters. So bronies are furries by definition.

The sad thing is that regardless of truth value, most people are afraid to be associated with furries.  Personally I have nothing wrong with furries, regardless of whether or not they are into the sexual side of the fandom.  As far as I'm concerned sexuality part of what who people are, and fantasy doesn't hurt anyone so I see no problem.  I mean, I recognize that the material should be kept in the appropriate avenues, but that's true for anything.  Anyway, I don't want to get off topic too much.
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Re: Bronies vs. Andrew Beibart's people
« Reply #28 on: April 28, 2012, 11:48:55 pm »
I'm not fan of the "clop" shit, too squick for my tastes, but if you're into that shit...I have no problem.

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Re: Bronies vs. Andrew Beibart's people
« Reply #29 on: April 29, 2012, 12:47:57 am »
(My only memory of the game was that there was a part where his jailor reads him a poem about his love of the color gray.)

Fable? I think it's either the first or second one.

Well, 4chan is the hellhole of the English-speaking internet, we all know that.  I lurk there periodically and it seems to keep getting worse every year.  (On the plus side, gawking at the human flotsam that makes up 4chan's user base goes a long way in making me feel better about my own life.)

Again, I don't think there is anything wrong with adults liking a "kids' show", but you must remember that 4chan upholds the concept of perverting all which they perceive to be pure and clean.  But all the Rule 34/43 stuff doesn't necessarily serve as an indictment of the whole fandom.  We're not talking about *shudder* furries here, after all.

Except the rest of 4chan hated them and got tired of putting up with their bullshit, so the behavior of the bronies is not really indicative of 4chan in general. And like I said earlier, this type of thing happened everywhere.

Also, "hellhole of the english-speaking internet'? I think you're confusing the rest of 4chan with /b/. 4chan has a ton of different boards with wildly varying cultures.
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