Reactions to an anti-bullying facebook thingamajig

[Witchyjoshy]

It's another useless facebook thing, so no love lost about that.

The reactions to it, however...

Just teach your kid how to fight. Then let them take care of the bully. Bullies prefer targets that don’t defend themselves.

(When someone said "That doesn't work, it only made the situation worse", this following bit of whargarbl got posted.  It's in a spoiler tag for length)

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Quit being a pu$$y and try harder next time. It will work. Its about respect, nothing more. If you can’t earn respect then you will never have it because no one gives it without it being earned. Respect is not a blue ribbon or trophy for just participating. Respect has to be earned and earning it is not easy. Just trying it once and failing horribly is not enough. You will gain respect if you continue to face whatever is thrown at you and handle it like a man. Anything else will just perpetuate the bullying and can even exacerbate it in the form of more bullies seeing that you are ripe for the picking (no pun intended).

If you can’t do it alone then band with others that that person is bullying and teach them what happens when they don’t treat others correctly. I’m by no means condoning bullying, but the only way a bully will ever respect you is for you to give them something to respect, and turning the other cheek or tattling is not going to cut it. We are the only species where this is even a thing that has to be taught. Every other species on the planet has a pecking order but they never complain about being bullied. They either leave and form their own society or stand up for themselves then accept where that puts them in the order of things. If you can’t even outsmart or out-fight a bully then stop letting your pride tell you that you deserve better because that proves that you don’t.

A bully is just acting out from pain or insecurity they feel and are trying to project that onto someone they feel is too weak to stop them, in order to make themselves feel better. If you allow it then it is just as much your fault as theirs. Stand up for yourself. Just because you can’t beat them up doesn’t mean you have to lay down and take it. Find another way to win. Just don’t accept what everyone is telling you about it being ok to let someone else do it for you. You’ll just create more resentment to yourself, and probably from more sources.

And saying hurtful things to someone is not bullying, its harassing. Maybe even assault. Bullying is making you do something that you don’t want to do by threat of force….like paying taxes. If you can’t take a few words being thrown at you then you are hopeless. Its not going to get any easier for you, especially if all you know how to do is tuck tail and run to the nearest authority figure for them to solve your problems for you.

Why all these stupid fings about bullying these days ?

Its so that the Liberals can gain more votes by creating an entire generation that needs hand outs because they can’t do anything for themselves and start crying when they have to face any sort of adversity.

been done for the last 20 years the pussifing of the US…. everyone is a winner…….NO second place is the 1st loser tho…

Yeah, um...

What?

GIFT in full force, I assume.

[Saturn500]

GIFT in full force, I assume.

A little of collumn A, a little of collumn B

[Distind]

It's face book, it's all gonna be pretty stupid.

While the ad itself is emotionally manipulative and in my opinion(as someone who's bullying involved severe beatings) addresses the shallowest portion of the issue.

Seriously, when it comes to words value them no more than you value the source they came from. If you have more serious issues take your time, calm yourself down, and express them as best you can to whoever you believe can, and is willing, to help. Also, use as many commas as possible, as your speach will likely be fairly stilted when discussing such things if you're upset about it.

Clicking a button isn't going to solve it, posting an image of someone your typical bully would enjoy hitting already crying isn't, and it'll really just look retarded all around.

There isn't a simple solution to bullying, there are some people who's only real joy in life is making others miserable. Dealing with them on a case by case basis, or simply weathering them until they kill themselves in a fit of self destructive stupidity apon impact with the real world are about the only real options.

[Witchyjoshy]

It's face book, it's all gonna be pretty stupid.

Actually, the reactions weren't from facebook, though I imagine facebook's actual reactions might have been worse.

While the ad itself is emotionally manipulative and in my opinion(as someone who's bullying involved severe beatings) addresses the shallowest portion of the issue.

I agree about the ad.  That's why I dismissed it immediately

Seriously, when it comes to words value them no more than you value the source they came from. If you have more serious issues take your time, calm yourself down, and express them as best you can to whoever you believe can, and is willing, to help. Also, use as many commas as possible, as your speach will likely be fairly stilted when discussing such things if you're upset about it.

Discounting someone's words is a lot easier said than done.  If someone is suffering from depression, they go into a feedback loop where they think that the bully might actually be right about them.

Incidentally, being in an environment where one is quite frequently verbally abused tends to cause depression.  Go figure.

However, I agree that it's not the main issue.  I would also say that the physical beatings aren't the main issue either.  The main issue is that bullies are, in many schools (note that many != most), seemingly allowed free reign, and that for some reason, they seem to get some positive feedback out of being bullies.  And you're right, there is no easy solution, it's embedded too deeply.

There are some people who's only real joy in life is making others miserable. Dealing with them on a case by case basis, or simply weathering them until they kill themselves in a fit of self destructive stupidity apon impact with the real world are about the only real options.

They either fizzle in the real world, or they get into positions of power where they can keep on bullying people... and get paid to do it.

People suck.

[erictheblue]

When I first saw the image, I thought it was about child abuse.

[Radiation]

When I first saw the image, I thought it was about child abuse.

Well bullying is abuse basically.

[Old Viking]

The fight-back solution can be hazardous in the extreme, but it can sometimes be successful.  From 6 to 13 I was the victim of a neighborhood bully.  It ended when I beat the snot out of him so badly that my father was accused of doing it ("No 13-year-old can inflict that kind of damage ...")  The bully was nice to me forever after.

[Saturn500]

The fight-back solution can be hazardous in the extreme, but it can sometimes be successful.  From 6 to 13 I was the victim of a neighborhood bully.  It ended when I beat the snot out of him so badly that my father was accused of doing it ("No 13-year-old can inflict that kind of damage ...")  The bully was nice to me forever after.

We need a clapping emoticon.

[Fpqxz]

The fight-back solution can be hazardous in the extreme, but it can sometimes be successful.  From 6 to 13 I was the victim of a neighborhood bully.  It ended when I beat the snot out of him so badly that my father was accused of doing it ("No 13-year-old can inflict that kind of damage ...")  The bully was nice to me forever after.

I partially agree with you, as this method has been effective for both myself and my brother.   

The problem with this approach is that it promotes vigilantism and potentially creates a cycle of retaliation.

The funny thing is that I graduated high school 15 years ago, and bullying wasn't that much of a problem in my school.  Theft/robbery, drug dealing, gambling, alcoholism...now those were problems.

[rageaholic]

Sounds like typical conservative machoism.  They don't realize that not everyone is a fighter, but since they have a "just world" philosophy, they think that victims of abuse and bullying deserve what they get.  It really shows what callous sociopaths they can be. 

[MadCatTLX]

The fight-back solution can be hazardous in the extreme, but it can sometimes be successful.  From 6 to 13 I was the victim of a neighborhood bully.  It ended when I beat the snot out of him so badly that my father was accused of doing it ("No 13-year-old can inflict that kind of damage ...")  The bully was nice to me forever after.

The problem is that these days you'll get in more trouble for trying to defend yourself that the person who started it did. My school has a rule that you can't hit back until they've hit you three times. The other day a girl got ISS (in school suspension, I've suggested they change the first word to "at") because a girl attacked her and she(the girl that got suspended) ended up being knocked out or badly hurt after the other girl slammed her head against the cafeteria's tile floor. I don't know what happened to the other girl but a friend said they saw her walking around the school later that day like normal, so I guess nothing happened. I think the whole fight was because the girl that got knocked out tried to break up a fight the day before that involved the other girl's boyfriend.

[Thejebusfire]

Just teach your kid how to fight. Then let them take care of the bully. Bullies prefer targets that don’t defend themselves.

What happens when the victim decides to fight back by bringing a gun to school.

[StallChaser]

Just teach your kid how to fight. Then let them take care of the bully. Bullies prefer targets that don’t defend themselves.

What happens when the victim decides to fight back by bringing a gun to school.

Nobody can fight back until they've shot three bullets.

[Smurfette Principle]

I was never physically beaten up, and while I often fantasized about punching my bullies in the face (and took it out on the helpless cinderblock wall), I never did, because I valued not getting in trouble for fighting over revenge. These people don't realize that you're not allowed to fight back, because of a "if you hit him you will be just like him" mentality.

I'd also like to point out that girls bullying girls is usually either ignored by these campaigns entirely or just considered less of a problem.

[Vypernight]

It doesn't help when those who fight back usually end up in worse trouble than the bullies.