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Offline TheReasonator

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Why Is Sex Outside of Marriage A Sin?
« on: November 01, 2012, 10:54:24 am »
It's never explicitly stated in the Bible, yet it's widely believed by Christians and has been even more strongly believed in the past than now.

Who said it was a sin? What social pressures lead them to say it and what social pressures lead others to propagate and follow it? Were they any countertendancies? Anybody who said that wasn't sound doctrine?

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Re: Why Is Sex Outside of Marriage A Sin?
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2012, 12:34:35 pm »
As I recall right, the whole "No sex outside of marriage" thing came from the mitzvah that said that a woman that wasn't a virgin when she got married was to be stoned.

That and you have idiots that actually think that a ring will stop various sexual things like the guy running away if he knocks the girl up and stuff like that.

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Re: Why Is Sex Outside of Marriage A Sin?
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2012, 01:41:52 pm »
Remember that whole patriarchy hangup we've had for the last few thousand years? As a man, you can never be sure that a child is yours unless you take steps to keep other men away from your property. It's a sin not because men think women are prone to it, it's a sin because men know they are.

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Re: Why Is Sex Outside of Marriage A Sin?
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2012, 03:01:07 pm »
"It's never explicitly stated in the Bible"

Uh, the seventh commandment? That whole "thou shalt not commit adultery" thing? That's pretty fucking explicit.

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Re: Why Is Sex Outside of Marriage A Sin?
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2012, 03:37:29 pm »
"It's never explicitly stated in the Bible"

Uh, the seventh commandment? That whole "thou shalt not commit adultery" thing? That's pretty fucking explicit.

From Merriam-Webster's Dictionary

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Re: Why Is Sex Outside of Marriage A Sin?
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2012, 05:25:51 pm »
The way it was explained to me (which Wikipedia tells me is in line with Catholic doctrine), was that adultery was having sex with anyone who was not your spouse. That meant that if you had sex with someone and you weren't married yet, well, they still aren't your spouse, so it's technically adultery anyway. Same with masturbation, because you aren't married to yourself.

Remember that whole patriarchy hangup we've had for the last few thousand years? As a man, you can never be sure that a child is yours unless you take steps to keep other men away from your property. It's a sin not because men think women are prone to it, it's a sin because men know they are.

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Re: Why Is Sex Outside of Marriage A Sin?
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2012, 05:44:43 pm »
The precise theological formula is: If it's fun, it's a sin.
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Re: Why Is Sex Outside of Marriage A Sin?
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2012, 11:28:45 pm »
The way it was explained to me (which Wikipedia tells me is in line with Catholic doctrine), was that adultery was having sex with anyone who was not your spouse. That meant that if you had sex with someone and you weren't married yet, well, they still aren't your spouse, so it's technically adultery anyway. Same with masturbation, because you aren't married to yourself.

Huh.  Yeah I guess if someone looked at it that way you could technically make any sex not between a married couple adultery.
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Re: Why Is Sex Outside of Marriage A Sin?
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2012, 11:51:55 pm »
The precise theological formula is: If it's fun, it's a sin.

Drinking, fighting, fucking...they basically outlawed 99% of the lifestyle of your typical Irishman.  Much less your typical Viking.
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Re: Why Is Sex Outside of Marriage A Sin?
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2012, 02:09:40 am »
The way it was explained to me (which Wikipedia tells me is in line with Catholic doctrine), was that adultery was having sex with anyone who was not your spouse. That meant that if you had sex with someone and you weren't married yet, well, they still aren't your spouse, so it's technically adultery anyway. Same with masturbation, because you aren't married to yourself.

Huh.  Yeah I guess if someone looked at it that way you could technically make any sex not between a married couple adultery.

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Re: Why Is Sex Outside of Marriage A Sin?
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2012, 03:15:00 am »
And a bunch of old male pedophiles have the exclusive right to decide what God's Will is for all time.
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Re: Why Is Sex Outside of Marriage A Sin?
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2012, 05:27:20 am »
The precise theological formula is: If it's fun, it's a sin.

Drinking, fighting, fucking...they basically outlawed 99% of the lifestyle of your typical Irishman.  Much less your typical Viking.

Actually I think they welcome drinking.  It'd certainly help with the lack of sex (except for altar boys).
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Re: Why Is Sex Outside of Marriage A Sin?
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2012, 12:58:38 pm »
Drinking is fine to Christainity. Not Islam. Drunkness is a sin though.

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Re: Why Is Sex Outside of Marriage A Sin?
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2012, 02:35:25 pm »
The way it was explained to me (which Wikipedia tells me is in line with Catholic doctrine), was that adultery was having sex with anyone who was not your spouse. That meant that if you had sex with someone and you weren't married yet, well, they still aren't your spouse, so it's technically adultery anyway. Same with masturbation, because you aren't married to yourself.

Huh.  Yeah I guess if someone looked at it that way you could technically make any sex not between a married couple adultery.

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Re: Why Is Sex Outside of Marriage A Sin?
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2012, 04:20:59 pm »
The way it was explained to me (which Wikipedia tells me is in line with Catholic doctrine), was that adultery was having sex with anyone who was not your spouse. That meant that if you had sex with someone and you weren't married yet, well, they still aren't your spouse, so it's technically adultery anyway. Same with masturbation, because you aren't married to yourself.

Huh.  Yeah I guess if someone looked at it that way you could technically make any sex not between a married couple adultery.

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On a lot of topics, you're right.  But on this one, from my experience growing up in a Protestant home and (Methodist) church, sex outside of marriage is always considered a sin.  I was going to respond to Smurfette's comment that you quoted and say that it isn't just Catholics that think this way.  I also think her explanation of why it is considered adultery is correct.  At least, that's what I had always been taught.  If your sexual partner is not your spouse, it's adultery.
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