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Re: Do we love God?
« Reply #45 on: June 15, 2013, 07:15:32 pm »
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Re: Do we love God?
« Reply #46 on: June 15, 2013, 08:32:55 pm »
Yaweh, no. Primus-sama, Yes.
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Re: Do we love God?
« Reply #47 on: June 30, 2013, 01:21:22 pm »
Make cookie dough, eat the cookie dough because fuck baking.
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Re: Do we love God?
« Reply #48 on: June 30, 2013, 01:30:35 pm »
Make cookie dough, eat the cookie dough because fuck baking.
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Re: Do we love God?
« Reply #49 on: July 05, 2013, 05:29:30 am »
God forgave us by sacrificing his own life, so that, we, who betrayed him may have peace and joy for all eternity. He told us that if we love him we would keep his commandments by loving one another as he has loved us.
Therefore, do we love God, if we:
1) refuse to forgive others as God forgave us?
2) have hate, greed, revenge, pride and lust in our heart?
3) refuse to sacrifice our own interest in order to bring healing to those who hurt and betray us?
4) refuse to stay faithful to our marriage covenant when there is hurt and betrayal?
1)I do my best to forgive others, way beyond any reasonable point. It's not out of loyalty to your god or anything like that. It is quite simply because I've been a right dickwad to people in the past, and was forgiven by them (including one who I threw to the ground for pulling on my jacket, while he already had a concussion, because I was in a horrible downward spiral at the time). The things that got me out of that spiral were love and metal, which was also something that me and the person I love bonded on. I was later forgiven by the person I threw to the ground as well as our circle of friends.
2) We're human. That's all. Again, I do my best to not hate (old me would have hated you, for example, and I forgave the aforementioned girl for cheating on me). Greed is just to make our lives better, and revenge is another human thing. Pride? I don't get it either, sorry.
3) I did. Not all of us are the same, even when they're an atheist Marilyn Manson fanboy.
4) Well, I'm not married, just in an extremely over complicated relationship, but my parents did stay together and work things out and heal. Again, broad sweeping statements don't work.
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Re: Do we love God?
« Reply #50 on: July 06, 2013, 02:52:21 am »
I'd like to add that none of those are necessarily good (or bad, in the case of #2). It's all about moderation. Holding grudges over every inconvenience is bad. Being a doormat is also bad.

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Re: Do we love God?
« Reply #51 on: July 06, 2013, 03:32:05 am »
I'd like to add that none of those are necessarily good (or bad, in the case of #2). It's all about moderation. Holding grudges over every inconvenience is bad. Being a doormat is also bad.
Yeah, that's true. That's my biggest worry, being a doormat. Being a spiteful asshole wasn't good, but I shouldn't go completely in the opposite direction. Love just makes me prone to it, though.
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Re: Do we love God?
« Reply #52 on: July 06, 2013, 07:50:15 am »
God forgave us by sacrificing his own life, so that, we, who betrayed him may have peace and joy for all eternity. He told us that if we love him we would keep his commandments by loving one another as he has loved us.

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Re: Do we love God?
« Reply #53 on: July 10, 2013, 01:53:46 pm »
God forgave us by sacrificing his own life, so that, we, who betrayed him may have peace and joy for all eternity.


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Re: Do we love God?
« Reply #54 on: July 14, 2013, 12:49:49 am »
Quite honestly, why would an all powerful God require or demand love or obedience? Why would the opinions or loves of people offend an all powerful God?

I believe we as humans have to learn to, as children are wont to do, leave the roost. Learn our lessons and apply them as we see fit. The most proud any parent can be is to see their child be independant, and make their own choices.

To cling to God as a Father and constantly try to use Him to justify fundamentalist ideas and even disgusting, greedy ends spoken against in the very book they cite is to be a disloyal, aberrant son.

And there's even the name of the Fundamentalist Sect, "Fundamentalist". They cling to and constantly cite fundamentals and old ideas. They claim that God never changes, yet we see an evolution of ideas in the New Testament. Stone the whore became let he who cast the first stone be judged.

Fundamentalists, I believe, took the wrong lesson from their Bible. They learned that their enemies will be Punished in hell. They even pray for Hell to be delivered to those they detest. They should have seen that it is a book of true atonement. Of abandoning wrath and destruction for forgiveness and hope.
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