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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2100 on: February 20, 2018, 02:46:50 am »
Don't worry. The 28th Amendment will be passed by then and all the money--evil or otherwise--will be banished from politics.

EDIT: Also, I don't say with any certainty that Sanders would have won (since there are too many counterfactuals), and I think Clinton could have won, if she'd had a competent campaign that focused on policy and didn't ignore states like Wisconsin and Michigan for almost the entire time.

EDIT #2: Meanwhile...

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/374536-trump-takes-last-spot-in-presidential-rankings-survey-on-overall

In the first "Presidents and Executive Politics Presidential Greatness Survey" taken after President Trump had spent a significant time in office (survey period: December 22, 2017 to January 16, 2018), respondents being 170 current and recently former members of the American Political Science Association, Trump ranks...

Dead last.

#1 is Lincoln; #2 is Washington.

https://sps.boisestate.edu/politicalscience/files/2018/02/Greatness.pdf

Note first that of the 166 respondents who listed a party affiliation, 95 were Democrats, 45 independents, 21 Republicans, and 5 other. As for their self-considered ideological bent, 54 consider themselves liberal, 43 somewhat liberal, 40 moderate, 20 somewhat conservative, and 9 conservative. This will of course bias the survey somewhat.

Following them are FDR, Teddy Roosevelt, Jefferson, Truman, and Eisenhower, that order being unchanged from 2014. However, Obama ranked 18th in 2014 and is now 8th. (I'm not sure if they know how much that's because of contrasts to the current incumbent, however.)

The bottom five are Andrew Johnson, Pierce, William Henry Harrison, Buchanan, and Trump.

Respondents identifying as Republican placed Trump 40th, with Andrew Johnson, Pierce, William Henry Harrison, and Buchanan below him. Those identifying as Democrats placed Trump dead last in 44th (Buchanan was 43rd). Others placed him 43rd on average, above Buchanan.

Respondents identifying as conservatives also placed Trump 40th, followed by Pierce, Andrew Johnson, William Henry Harrison, and Buchanan. Those identifying as liberals placed Trump 44th, with Buchanan in 43rd, as did moderates.

The top-fives are also somewhat interesting:

Republicans

Washington
Lincoln
FDR
Teddy Roosevelt
Reagan

Democrats

Lincoln
FDR
Washington
Teddy Roosevelt
Jefferson

Independents

Lincoln
Washington
FDR
Teddy Roosevelt
Jefferson

Conservatives

Washington
Lincoln
Reagan
FDR
Teddy Roosevelt

Liberals

Lincoln
FDR
Washington
Teddy Roosevelt
Jefferson

Moderates

Lincoln
Washington
FDR
Teddy Roosevelt
Jefferson

If respondents had to pick another President to place on Mount Rushmore, an overwhelming majority, 65.9%, would choose Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Other responses, in order, were Barack Obama, Ronald Reagan, Dwight Eisenhower, James Madison, Lyndon Johnson, William McKinley, Andrew Jackson, Harry Truman, James Polk, John Adams, Bill Clinton, Calvin Coolidge, John F. Kennedy, and Richard Nixon. (Some respondents named Washington, Lincoln, or Roosevelt.)

FDR was the top choice among all groups of party affiliation or ideology, overwhelmingly among Democrats, liberals and moderates, a majority among independents, and a plurality among Republicans and conservatives.

They also looked at how polarizing various Presidents were. I'll quote their methodology:

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In the current polarized political climate, we thought it would be interesting to ask which presidents were considered by presidency experts to be the most polarizing. To do so, we asked respondents to identify up to five individual presidents they believed were the most polarizing, and then rank order them with the first president being the most polarizing, the second as next most polarizing, and so on. We then calculated how many times a president was identified as well as their average ranking. The results of this question can be seen in the table below.

Trump was by far the most-listed President, at 138 respondents, and on average the most polarizing. The other Presidents listed at least 50 times were Andrew Jackson, George W. Bush, Barack Obama, Richard Nixon, and Abraham Lincoln.

They also issued a report card for Trump, on the A-B-C-D-F scale, with Trump receiving 2 Ds and 3 Fs--but even Republicans only gave him 2 Cs and 3 Ds. (Conservatives were harsher, at 4 Ds and 1 F.)
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2101 on: February 21, 2018, 09:36:56 am »
http://metro.co.uk/2018/02/21/twitter-just-purged-russian-bots-trump-fans-crying-followers-vanish-7329362/

So, there are only two possible explanations:

a) Trump-cultists had been getting thousands of retweets and followers that were really bots trying to make them more visible and think that they have more support.

2) Social media is under the control of SJW-COMMIE-MUSLIMS who are trying to silence proud American patriots.

And since one of those explanations would include admitting that Trump-cultists have been duped so of course it can't be that. They are stable geniuses after all.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2102 on: February 21, 2018, 10:14:10 pm »
Trump held a "listening" session at the White House for people who have survived or been affected by school shootings.  Two highlights I wanna bring to light.



This note card that he was apparently holding during the session.  Not the points you can see on it.  One of which is "I hear you".  The fuck has to be reminded about that?

The other point is he wants to reopen the asylums.

Ironbite-let that sink in.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2103 on: February 22, 2018, 05:51:18 pm »
Gotta love old man Trump blaming the violent video games and music for all of the gun violence. Gee where the fuck have we heard that before? You damn kids with your Dan Fogelberg, Hula hoops and pac man video games!

They were saying this shit twenty years ago.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2104 on: February 22, 2018, 06:06:39 pm »
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