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3 in 10 Americans believe armed rebellion might be necessary soon
« on: May 02, 2013, 08:11:50 pm »
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Re: 3 in 10 Americans believe armed rebellion might be necessary soon
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2013, 08:18:39 pm »
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Re: 3 in 10 Americans believe armed rebellion might be necessary soon
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2013, 08:23:15 pm »
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Re: 3 in 10 Americans believe armed rebellion might be necessary soon
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2013, 08:23:37 pm »
Yeah most of these people that believe in this impending "rebellion" tend to be of a conspiracy theorist mindset. Not to mention that an armed rebellion would be squashed due to the military being a far more, stronger, harder and large complex to wipe them out. I mean how are you going to fight an army with a bunch of guns when they got those big ass tanks, planes, bombs, missiles etc. not to mention that we have some of the biggest intel branches in the world.
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Re: 3 in 10 Americans believe armed rebellion might be necessary soon
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2013, 08:27:25 pm »
Quote from: Neverland on May 02, 2013, 08:23:37 pm
Yeah most of these people that believe in this impending "rebellion" tend to be of a conspiracy theorist mindset. Not to mention that an armed rebellion would be squashed due to the military being a far more, stronger, harder and large complex to wipe them out. I mean how are you going to fight an army with a bunch of guns when they got those big ass tanks, planes, bombs, missiles etc. not to mention that we have some of the biggest intel branches in the world.

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Re: 3 in 10 Americans believe armed rebellion might be necessary soon
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2013, 08:34:57 pm »
Quote from: Neverland on May 02, 2013, 08:23:37 pm
Yeah most of these people that believe in this impending "rebellion" tend to be of a conspiracy theorist mindset. Not to mention that an armed rebellion would be squashed due to the military being a far more, stronger, harder and large complex to wipe them out. I mean how are you going to fight an army with a bunch of guns when they got those big ass tanks, planes, bombs, missiles etc. not to mention that we have some of the biggest intel branches in the world.

While I don't think such a rebellion would outright WIN, I do think it would be possible to draw it out so long that it becomes a win by default. Vietnam and Afghanistan both show the effectiveness of guerilla armies who know what they're doing.
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Re: 3 in 10 Americans believe armed rebellion might be necessary soon
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2013, 08:38:31 pm »
But is the gun store hardware going to cut it?

Or do we have to rely on questionable assistance?
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Re: 3 in 10 Americans believe armed rebellion might be necessary soon
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2013, 08:39:46 pm »
Quote from: R. U. Sirius on May 02, 2013, 08:34:57 pm
Quote from: Neverland on May 02, 2013, 08:23:37 pm
Yeah most of these people that believe in this impending "rebellion" tend to be of a conspiracy theorist mindset. Not to mention that an armed rebellion would be squashed due to the military being a far more, stronger, harder and large complex to wipe them out. I mean how are you going to fight an army with a bunch of guns when they got those big ass tanks, planes, bombs, missiles etc. not to mention that we have some of the biggest intel branches in the world.

While I don't think such a rebellion would outright WIN, I do think it would be possible to draw it out so long that it becomes a win by default. Vietnam and Afghanistan both show the effectiveness of guerilla armies who know what they're doing.

Thing is, the US military knows the US a lot better than they knew Vietnam or Afghanistan. Familiarity with the terrain (and unfamiliarity with such on the part of the opposing force) plays a role in the effectiveness of any guerrilla action.
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Re: 3 in 10 Americans believe armed rebellion might be necessary soon
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2013, 08:50:05 pm »
But they think that such a rebellion is GOING to happen in the next decade or so. Lunatic fringe groups of conspiracy theorists exist everywhere but 30% is less a lunatic fringe and more a terrifying big chunk of the voting public. These are registered voters, meaning their inane stupid crazy BULLSHIT controls 30% of the political future of the country. THEY THINK THE GOVERNMENT MADE UP A STORY ABOUT THE MASS MURDER OF SCHOOLKIDS FOR POLITICAL REASONS. THEY THINK THEIR GUN HUMPERS STAND A CHANCE AGAINST ESSENTIALLY THE BIGGEST AND WEALTHIEST MILITARY IN THE WORLD. These people are unstable and they're an increasingly influential chunk.

It's scary and worth worrying about.
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Re: 3 in 10 Americans believe armed rebellion might be necessary soon
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2013, 08:53:25 pm »
*raises an eyebrow*

EIGHTEEN PERCENT of Democrats say this, too?

Forgive me for not jumping on the "Holy shit" bandwagon but something's fishy here.  Not because of the above, but because of a few things.

Namely, an armed rebellion from what?  Some people think this means corporations.  Some people think this means government.

How do we know how many Republicans thought along those lines, too?  Independents?

Finally, what was the sample size of this study?  What was the selection process?

How many people declined to participate?
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Re: 3 in 10 Americans believe armed rebellion might be necessary soon
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2013, 09:25:37 pm »
Personally, I hope they just get it over with and try.

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Re: 3 in 10 Americans believe armed rebellion might be necessary soon
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2013, 09:32:20 pm »
Quote from: Magus Silveresti on May 02, 2013, 08:53:25 pm
*raises an eyebrow*

EIGHTEEN PERCENT of Democrats say this, too?

Forgive me for not jumping on the "Holy shit" bandwagon but something's fishy here.  Not because of the above, but because of a few things.

Namely, an armed rebellion from what?  Some people think this means corporations.  Some people think this means government.

How do we know how many Republicans thought along those lines, too?  Independents?

Finally, what was the sample size of this study?  What was the selection process?

How many people declined to participate?

The sample size was 863 registered voters. I don't know how many people declined to answer questions, but they were randomly selected nationwide. The article has tables regarding two questions specifically (about Sandy Hook and about 'armed rebellion') detailing which people agreed and disagreed, how they were registered to vote, their sex, and their level of education. It doesn't link to the study but I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to find more about it online.

It's not a large sample size--I think the generally accepted number for a 'sample size' of the population is a thousand--but it's enough to be scary.
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Re: 3 in 10 Americans believe armed rebellion might be necessary soon
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2013, 10:55:25 pm »
In which case, forgive me for not wanting to break out my afraid face, but 863 is quite frankly a shitty sample size for what was being considered.

Something along the lines of 2,000 people would have been an improvement.
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Re: 3 in 10 Americans believe armed rebellion might be necessary soon
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2013, 11:36:52 pm »
This isn't really shocking given the morons they help in electing to congress.
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Re: 3 in 10 Americans believe armed rebellion might be necessary soon
« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2013, 12:51:28 am »
...less then 1,000 people were sampled in this?  Yeah this is flawed from the get go.

Ironbite-10,000 would be a better sample size in regards to the US population.
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