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Prayer death decision upheld
« on: July 03, 2013, 05:17:43 pm »
http://news.yahoo.com/court-upholds-parents-convictions-prayer-death-123307685.html

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A mother and father who prayed instead of seeking medical help as their daughter died were properly convicted of homicide, the Wisconsin Supreme Court ruled Wednesday in a decision that dramatically limits legal immunity for parents who turn to God rather than science to heal their children.

The decision marks the first time a Wisconsin court has addressed criminal culpability in a prayer treatment case where a child died. The court ruled 6-1 that the state's immunity provisions for prayer treatment parents protect them from child abuse charges but nothing else, opening the door to a host of other counts.

Honestly, I wonder if there should be any exemption. Especially for parents who were afraid pedialyte would detract from god's glory.

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Re: Prayer death decision upheld
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2013, 05:50:50 pm »
Woo! Wait, no, this is a ruling against woo. Hooray! Seriously, this is a kneecapping of faith healers.
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Re: Prayer death decision upheld
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2013, 05:54:39 pm »
fuck yeah!
From international relations to religious rivalries, from marriage to athlete's foot, whatever the problem a fundy's first solution is usually violence.

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Re: Prayer death decision upheld
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2013, 08:05:22 pm »
Yeah, that decision keeps future fundie psychos from getting away with killing their kids during demon exorcism...with a knife. Which has happened a few too fucking many times of late. 'Cause exorcism is faith healing, too.
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Re: Prayer death decision upheld
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2013, 08:33:37 pm »
To be honest I know fundies who hate these types of fundies, and have even come up with jokes mocking the idea of leaving everything purely to faith.

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Re: Prayer death decision upheld
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2013, 08:34:57 pm »
To be honest I know fundies who hate these types of fundies, and have even come up with jokes mocking the idea of leaving everything purely to faith.

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Huh. That was actually pretty funny.
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Re: Prayer death decision upheld
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2013, 08:36:30 pm »
I know, right? :D
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Re: Prayer death decision upheld
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2013, 10:13:18 pm »
Thank fudge. I really wonder if you have to be mentally ill to believe a god is going to resurrect your dead child. And to believe that giving your child certain substances would "take the glory away from God."
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Re: Prayer death decision upheld
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2013, 10:36:31 pm »
Yay.  Hopefully this will make people think twice about not bringing their kids to get proper medical attention.
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Re: Prayer death decision upheld
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2013, 10:44:42 pm »
YAY!Well, We're happy again.
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Re: Prayer death decision upheld
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2013, 10:47:09 pm »
Yeah, that decision keeps future fundie psychos from getting away with killing their kids during demon exorcism...with a knife. Which has happened a few too fucking many times of late. 'Cause exorcism is faith healing, too.

I'm afraid to ask, but how many exorcisms are done on average?

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Re: Prayer death decision upheld
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2013, 10:47:34 pm »
Thank fudge. I really wonder if you have to be mentally ill to believe a god is going to resurrect your dead child. And to believe that giving your child certain substances would "take the glory away from God."

I don't think it even makes sense based on standard Christian theology, didn't God create the chemicals in the medicines?
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Re: Prayer death decision upheld
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2013, 10:51:21 pm »
I'm just going leave this here:

My mother is a biblical literalist and believes every scripture of the Bible as god's word and there was even a Bible study conducted in my home today, and even she thinks this sort of stuff is bullshit.

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Re: Prayer death decision upheld
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2013, 12:45:12 am »
To be honest I know fundies who hate these types of fundies, and have even come up with jokes mocking the idea of leaving everything purely to faith.

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The version of that tale I'm familiar with is called "Two Boats and a Helicopter".  Other than that, the message is exactly the same.  One of my faves.

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Re: Prayer death decision upheld
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2013, 12:54:13 am »
To be honest I know fundies who hate these types of fundies, and have even come up with jokes mocking the idea of leaving everything purely to faith.

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The version of that tale I'm familiar with is called "Two Boats and a Helicopter".  Other than that, the message is exactly the same.  One of my faves.

Who is to say that there HAS to be a giant hand coming down and plucking you from whatever predicament you're in?

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