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Society and History / Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
« Last post by Askold on Today at 02:54:42 am »
Some are specifically trying to downplay the things that Nazis did to make them look more appealing to the people they are trying to recruit to Nazism and they don't actually believe that the Holocaust was a hoax, it's just something they lie about.

Some are weird conspiracy theorists and actually believe that the Holocaust was a hoax.

These two types of people often willingly work together and it is hard to tell them apart but I believe they are distinct groups. The former are Nazis that can just fuck off and the latter may need their head checked but not all of them are Nazis.

That said even some of the conspiracy theorists that believe in the "holohoax" theory are antisemites and would not have opposed Holocaust so it gets complicated.

Point being the "it didn't happen but if it had it would have been AWESOME" is not contradictory because for some it is just that they lie about their beliefs and are Nazis and some hate Jews but also think that the Jews made up the Holocaust and they don't change their belief in Holocaust not being real just because they like the idea.

Kinda like how I would like the moon to be made of Cheese because that would have some interesting implications but I won't start believing it because there's no scientifically verified evidence to support such a claim.
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I think Beto is running too prematurely. He's young and has state level experience, but if he could gang some more experience being a senator or governor for like ten years I think it would increase his chances.

Biden and Bernie have the opposite problem being in their late seventies. The democrats really need a younger more progressive candidate. Harris or Booker might be good, but they might be too corporate.

Coming from Texas, Beto's never going to be anything more than a House rep. He tried his level best to climb the hill to Senator and didn't make it (though he came damn close - 14 points above expectations!!). He's definitely not going to make it to Governor. I for one think this is his best possible chance, and I for one hope he kills it in floor debates and gets his shot at the Presidency. I think he'd be an easy win against Trump (if he can get within 2 points in Texas, imagine what he can do in Michigan, Pennsylvania or Nevada!!) and that he'd be a capable, progressive and rational leader to boot.

Capable and rational, yes. (Granted that can be said of just about anyone on the Democratic side--and, I'd venture to add, some on the Republican side, too, even if I might disagree with their policies.) Progressive? Not when he votes with Republicans pretty often (to do stuff like gut the CFPB and deregulate banking), not when Third Way likes him, and not when he was in the New Democrat Coalition.

That he isn't disclosing how many donors he had is problematic--that six-million-plus he raised could have come from as little as 2300 donors all giving the maximum, and he was disavowed by the "no fossil fuel money" pledge group for taking big donations from oil executives. Something tells me that if he had broken the 65,000 individual donors necessary (absent 1% poll support) for debate access with his first-day fundraising, he'd be trumpeting that from the rooftops. (Sen. Harris only made it about three-fifths of the way there on her first-day fundraising and she made the number public.)

But I'm hesitant to speculate on how the Democratic field will shake out until Biden announces one way or the other.

I'm not saying he couldn't win a general Presidential election, but I think he'd have a better chance of riding the coattails of whoever does win the Democratic nomination to knock off Cornyn than he would of winning said nomination.
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Why do they feel the need to cast doubt on this genocide if they think its a good thing? Nazis never ever make logical sense. Same reason they think they're superior and might makes right and all that, yet they lost the war.
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Entertainment and Television / Re: Video Game Thread 2.0
« Last post by RavynousHunter on March 19, 2019, 11:13:51 pm »
Holy hell, I'd forgotten how insanely present archery is in Ultima Online.  Then again, I'd not used it since...1999?  The special moves and new weapons have really been a game changer.  Magical shortbow with life/mana leech is a fucking gore machine once you get enough skill to shoot fucking lightning arrows.  It's insane how quickly I got grandmaster in archery; it couldn't have been more than twelve hours.  Helps that I can craft my own ammo.
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Politics and Government / Re: What are your future presidential predictions?
« Last post by Eiki-mun on March 19, 2019, 10:16:37 pm »
I think Beto is running too prematurely. He's young and has state level experience, but if he could gang some more experience being a senator or governor for like ten years I think it would increase his chances.

Biden and Bernie have the opposite problem being in their late seventies. The democrats really need a younger more progressive candidate. Harris or Booker might be good, but they might be too corporate.

Coming from Texas, Beto's never going to be anything more than a House rep. He tried his level best to climb the hill to Senator and didn't make it (though he came damn close - 14 points above expectations!!). He's definitely not going to make it to Governor. I for one think this is his best possible chance, and I for one hope he kills it in floor debates and gets his shot at the Presidency. I think he'd be an easy win against Trump (if he can get within 2 points in Texas, imagine what he can do in Michigan, Pennsylvania or Nevada!!) and that he'd be a capable, progressive and rational leader to boot.
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Politics and Government / Re: What are your future presidential predictions?
« Last post by Id82 on March 19, 2019, 06:47:38 pm »
I think Beto is running too prematurely. He's young and has state level experience, but if he could gang some more experience being a senator or governor for like ten years I think it would increase his chances.

Biden and Bernie have the opposite problem being in their late seventies. The democrats really need a younger more progressive candidate. Harris or Booker might be good, but they might be too corporate.
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Politics and Government / Re: What are your future presidential predictions?
« Last post by dpareja on March 19, 2019, 06:05:07 pm »
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/3/18/18271222/beto-orourke-fundraising-haul-2020-sanders

Beto O'Rourke has broken Bernie Sanders' first-day fundraising record.

However, his campaign has declined to release the number of individual donors, or the average donation.

Which could prove problematic...

https://theintercept.com/2018/12/27/dnc-primary-grassroots-fundraising/

Since if he can't hit 1% poll support (and with so many people gunning for the nomination, that's a tall order for any candidate), he needs 65,000 individual donors to get on the stage for the Democratic primary debates.

Personally I hope he drops and challenges Sen. Cornyn instead--if there's enough of a wave, he could win this time around.
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Society and History / Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
« Last post by davedan on March 19, 2019, 05:10:57 pm »
The funny thing about holocaust deniers is that if you push them hard enough, they'll admit that if it happened they wouldn't think it was a bad thing.
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Politics and Government / Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Last post by dpareja on March 19, 2019, 04:16:21 pm »
Not to mention the lengths they're all going to make Venezuela look so much worse than it is. Like the fake news about torching those aid trucks

http://stocktalkjournal.com/greenwald-coordinated-lie-over-maduro-burning-aid-trucks-reveals-how-fake-news-spreads/

Um, the link is broken.

But yeah, Venezuela's in a bad enough situation that you don't need to make shit up to make it seem worse.

It's less that they're trying to make Venezuela look worse than it is as that they're trying to make Maduro look worse than he is.

Which is also unnecessary, in my opinion, since the OAS has recommended he be tried for crimes against humanity. You don't need to turn him into a mustache-twirling villain.

I wonder when they'll say the same about every post-WWII US President and war crimes (yes, including Carter).
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Society and History / Re: Good Things People Say on the Internet
« Last post by ironbite on March 19, 2019, 03:29:39 pm »
I think it was a comic psa about drunk driving.

Ironbite-or being black, not sure.
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