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Preaching and Worship / Re: Another story of Jesus converting Muslims.
« Last post by Jacob Harrison on September 14, 2018, 12:22:15 pm »
I can explain anecdotes, people make shit up.

Miracle explained!

But why would Iranians make a story like that up in an Islamic theocracy where they could be punished for apostasy? Why would they risk punishment for a lie?
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Preaching and Worship / Re: A theological question about Heaven and Hell
« Last post by Jacob Harrison on September 14, 2018, 12:20:31 pm »
Think about it this way. A crime against a President is more serious and has more severe punishment than a crime against a regular person. So the greater the person, the greater the offense and the greater the punishment. And God is infinitely greater than anybody else, so it is an infinitely greater offense deserving of eternal punishment.
No, it's not. Once again, you're trying to paint something entire subjective and unnecessary as some sort of absolute truth. Once again, it's not, and you're not fooling anyone.

I explained in my previous comment how the punishment fits the crime. Those who sin against God don’t deserve to be in the presence of God and thus they are punished with eternal separation from God, the chief punishment of hell.
Any schema that considers it a crime not to kiss the arse of a given leader isn't moral, any moral system worthy of its name is consistent and applies to all. It's authoritarianism at its most hypocritical and cowardly-cosplaying morality in a self-righteous cowardly pantomime as authoritarians are want to do!

But God is our creator so we owe him our worship and obedience.
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As for that photo, it's not as you describe. There isn't one spot that is stark white contrasted with stark black. It's one patch with a bit more white than black. They're old man tits, not chess squares.

Seriously, teen doodles and grandad's salt and pepper boobies? This is all it takes to convince you? You're a Nigerian Prince's wet dream! Are you one of those people who clicks on flashing banner ads proclaiming you're the millionth visitor? I pity your parents as it's likely their credit card account you're accessing!

Don’t you see that there is no white on any other part of his body? And I don’t see much black on the white patch.
I see there's no white on any other part of his body that's shown.

At a certain age you get white hair in all sorts of weird places.

It's also blurry, the light is shithouse and the angle makes it plenty likely that one side looks lighter than the other because it's closer to the light source.
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Preaching and Worship / Re: Another story of Jesus converting Muslims.
« Last post by Tolpuddle Martyr on September 14, 2018, 10:19:48 am »
I can explain anecdotes, people make shit up.

Miracle explained!
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Preaching and Worship / Re: A theological question about Heaven and Hell
« Last post by Tolpuddle Martyr on September 14, 2018, 10:14:49 am »
Think about it this way. A crime against a President is more serious and has more severe punishment than a crime against a regular person. So the greater the person, the greater the offense and the greater the punishment. And God is infinitely greater than anybody else, so it is an infinitely greater offense deserving of eternal punishment.
No, it's not. Once again, you're trying to paint something entire subjective and unnecessary as some sort of absolute truth. Once again, it's not, and you're not fooling anyone.

I explained in my previous comment how the punishment fits the crime. Those who sin against God don’t deserve to be in the presence of God and thus they are punished with eternal separation from God, the chief punishment of hell.
Any schema that considers it a crime not to kiss the arse of a given leader isn't moral, any moral system worthy of its name is consistent and applies to all. It's authoritarianism at its most hypocritical and cowardly-cosplaying morality in a self-righteous cowardly pantomime as authoritarians are want to do!

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Preaching and Worship / Re: A theological question about Heaven and Hell
« Last post by Art Vandelay on September 14, 2018, 09:13:27 am »
I explained in my previous comment how the punishment fits the crime. Those who sin against God don’t deserve to be in the presence of God and thus they are punished with eternal separation from God, the chief punishment of hell.
I'm glad you think so, but bear in mind that is an entirely subjective view, and one most others would firmly disagree with. That goes for both in terms of whether sin warrants any punishment at all, much less eternal torture and whether or not the torture by fire is somehow worse than being far, far away from the lunatic who thought it was a sensible idea to put you there in the first place.
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Preaching and Worship / Re: Another story of Jesus converting Muslims.
« Last post by Jacob Harrison on September 14, 2018, 08:27:17 am »
I see that none of you are able to explain the miracle performed in the video.
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Religion and Philosophy / Re: Christian News Network fundies
« Last post by BobRumba on September 14, 2018, 08:23:03 am »
God, she’s talking about Vic Nicholls who is a fundamentalist Christian, but that rare example of one who doesn’t get along with Amos.  He’s actually very nice, but she is fighting with her own kind now.  What does she mean, when she says he’s part of the group that wants to hurt them?  And did you see Guest Verified’s response to her, giving her the lame old Peewee story that it’s all the same person?  I just want to smack that guy.
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Preaching and Worship / Re: Parallel Hero Updates Thread
« Last post by Jacob Harrison on September 14, 2018, 08:19:39 am »
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Preaching and Worship / Re: A theological question about Heaven and Hell
« Last post by Jacob Harrison on September 14, 2018, 08:15:23 am »
Think about it this way. A crime against a President is more serious and has more severe punishment than a crime against a regular person. So the greater the person, the greater the offense and the greater the punishment. And God is infinitely greater than anybody else, so it is an infinitely greater offense deserving of eternal punishment.
No, it's not. Once again, you're trying to paint something entire subjective and unnecessary as some sort of absolute truth. Once again, it's not, and you're not fooling anyone.

I explained in my previous comment how the punishment fits the crime. Those who sin against God don’t deserve to be in the presence of God and thus they are punished with eternal separation from God, the chief punishment of hell.
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