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Re: What are your political beliefs?
« Reply #45 on: June 07, 2012, 12:49:32 am »
My problems with taxes such as the fair tax, is 1. the prebate is somewhat cheap, 2.so are we going to get rid sales taxes at both the state and local level, because there are some areas of the country where sales tax is close to 10%, while other areas have very little. If we switch to any type of flat tax, I would like to see a "pro-family" flat tax where food items still would be tax free.
I'm not really for any type of regressive tax, but I've gotten to the point in my life where I really don't give a shit, and I'm sick of hearing people whine, because 49%of people don't pay federal income taxes, blah,blah,blah. The thing is even if we were to go about doing this the whiners would still bitch. We've reformed "welfare" to the point that it's a jobs programs, and they still bitch. I've more or less have given up on this country, and I'm at the point that I really don't think anyone deserves any kind of social safety net, and I'll like to see the country burn more or less. Sorry for the rant.
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Re: What are your political beliefs?
« Reply #46 on: June 07, 2012, 01:22:29 am »
- Pro-choice. On a personal level I'm somewhat conflicted about a number of factors, but I do not believe that anyone should have the right to tell another person what to do with their own body.

- Very strong supporter of equal rights for LGBTQs.

- Against the death penalty for both moral and practical reasons. For truly heinous crimes, give 'em life in a supermax facility.

- Legalize, tax and regulate weed and prostitution.

- Treat drug addiction as a medical issue, not a criminal one.

- Legalize polygamy between consenting adults.

- Regulate the hell out of firearms, but don't ban them.

- Public health care may not be perfect, but it's preferable to privatized medicine.

- Balance a healthy, well-regulated private sector with a moderately sized public sector.

- Rehabilitation should be the primary goal of the corrections system. This does not mean that we must coddle criminals, however; retribution is still an important factor in justice. Additionally, we must recognize when a criminal is beyond rehabilitation.

- Ranked ballots for the win.

- Students have a right to proper sex education. Condoms should be available in school bathrooms, and information about how to easily and cheaply obtain birth control pills should be distributed in classrooms.

Plus some other stuff I'm too tired to remember.
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Re: What are your political beliefs?
« Reply #47 on: June 07, 2012, 01:28:30 am »
I'd like to revise mine in light of the events in Wisconsin, and cumulatively the past few years.

Doesn't fucking matter. The game is rigged, the ride is broken, there's nothing left to save and nobody really worth saving. We were born into this game without a choice in whether we even wanted to play, and unfortunately, there's no good way to 'opt out' and try something else. Change things up if you can, it's still the same old broken system.
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Re: What are your political beliefs?
« Reply #48 on: June 07, 2012, 08:29:41 am »
I'd like to revise mine in light of the events in Wisconsin, and cumulatively the past few years.

Doesn't fucking matter. The game is rigged, the ride is broken, there's nothing left to save and nobody really worth saving. We were born into this game without a choice in whether we even wanted to play, and unfortunately, there's no good way to 'opt out' and try something else. Change things up if you can, it's still the same old broken system.

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Re: What are your political beliefs?
« Reply #49 on: June 07, 2012, 11:21:38 am »
A couple of my beliefs:

  • Progressive tax system
  • Universal public services
  • Controlling, limiting, and regulating the private sector
  • Making land public property
  • Increase environmental protection
  • No military interventionism
  • Tax the fuck out of American companies until they bring jobs here
  • Increase import tax while decreasing tax for domestic production
  • Free immigration with oversight and with in reason
  • Affirmative action
  • Send money to increase productivity and improve Projects and ghettos without gentrifying it
  • In fact, increase property tax on gentrified areas (Yes, that's right Orange County. I want to get rid your precious Prop 13.)
  • Relinquish lands back to indigenous people
  • Stop all forms of religiously backed education (abstinence only, don't say gay, creationism) in public school
  • Abolish voucher systems for private schools
  • Infrastructure
  • Adopt education focusing on people of color, LGBTQ people, and women
  • De-commercialize LGBTQ activism but give tax brakes to organization that are LGBTQ friendly
  • While English will still be the de-facto language of the United States, establish a no-official language system and provide education in English + one other language for K through 6 children.
  • Adopt laws that allow transgender people to under go transition and change their legal gender without question
  • Stop whitewashing American and world history
  • Religious institutions that wish to meddle in politics lose it's tax exempt.

Yeah pretty gott damn socialist. Not nearly as so as others, but yeah.
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Re: What are your political beliefs?
« Reply #50 on: June 08, 2012, 07:59:20 am »
Taxes should be progressive with a much higher top bracket than what is the case now in the US
Elections should be done as an automatic runoff (that way, third party votes aren't a complete waste)
Public campaign financing
Treat drug addictions as medical problems -- prohibition is a complete failure.
Eliminate for-profit prisons and wars.
Reduce military spending and make national defense just that: Defense only.
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Re: What are your political beliefs?
« Reply #51 on: June 08, 2012, 02:29:39 pm »
My problems with taxes such as the fair tax, is 1. the prebate is somewhat cheap, 2.so are we going to get rid sales taxes at both the state and local level, because there are some areas of the country where sales tax is close to 10%, while other areas have very little. If we switch to any type of flat tax, I would like to see a "pro-family" flat tax where food items still would be tax free.
I'm not really for any type of regressive tax, but I've gotten to the point in my life where I really don't give a shit, and I'm sick of hearing people whine, because 49%of people don't pay federal income taxes, blah,blah,blah. The thing is even if we were to go about doing this the whiners would still bitch. We've reformed "welfare" to the point that it's a jobs programs, and they still bitch. I've more or less have given up on this country, and I'm at the point that I really don't think anyone deserves any kind of social safety net, and I'll like to see the country burn more or less. Sorry for the rant.

to me it just seems like a good idea.  Everyone pays.  The rich may pay a smaller percentage, but they're also paying more overall, unless they have someone else do their shopping.  I also did the math, and under Fairtax, I'd be paying a couple hundred dollars less in taxes each year, and that's counting the tax refunds we (are supposed to) receive under the current plan.  And I don't even think I am middle class (I make under $30,000 a year).  Granted this is just under my budget; I know everyone else's is different.  I just feel it would be better than the one we have.
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Re: What are your political beliefs?
« Reply #52 on: June 08, 2012, 02:46:06 pm »
In my state (Washington) I've found that the public school system is actually not half bad when it comes to choice. Your school district and school obviously depends on where you live, and your taxpayer dollars get sent to that district. But if you don't like that district for whatever reason, you can put those tax dollars towards another district and go there instead, no questions asked. And I'm pretty sure there's a way to stop paying school taxes altogether and just homeschool without enrolling. I like this system because it still provides a "safety net" of public schools for people to choose from, but it also offers the consumer a choice as to what school they want. The schools that are more desirable get more out-of-district students, and thus more tax dollars, so there is an incentive for all the school districts to do the best they can on improving their education. It's rather close to a capitalist system. The thing fucking it up right now is the No Child Left Behind Act. The poorer schools get less money from the government? What kind of ass-backwards logic is that? Seriously fuck that shit.

Now I have friends on the east coast (Connecticut) where this isn't the case. There, where you live is basically the difference between a good education and a bad one. Switching districts, or even switching schools, is practically unheard of and basically impossible. This perpetuates a horribly classist system where the richer neighborhoods have more tax dollars to spare for their schools, so their kids go to the well-funded schools, while the poor communities cannot necessarily pay their taxes to their school district as well and their schools remain poorly-funded. (Yes, the district lines are often divisions between "rich and poor.") Once there was a homeless woman who got arrested for stealing free education, because she was sending her children to a "rich" public school despite not having an address in the district.

As for the whole revolution thing, I think that's going to become more and more of an issue in the upcoming political cycles. The youth are overwhelmingly more liberal than their parents, and while Occupy Wall Street might not be doing much right now, it will eventually gain a huge amount of momentum with an influx of young voters who are fed up with the system. It's not like America's about to break out into civil war or conduct a coup or anything, but massive protests and riots are a possibility in the future.
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Re: What are your political beliefs?
« Reply #53 on: June 08, 2012, 03:46:13 pm »
*Put criminals into involuntary servitude

*Harvest Organs of dead people no matter what.

*Place tariffs on foreign goods

*Subsidize clean energy

*Decentralize education.

*Ban Affirmative Action, as it is a violation of the Civil Rights Act

*Tax capital gains over 50%

*Tax the hell out of star athletes & actors.

*Reform our voting system to approval voting or proportional representation. If you don't win 51% of the vote, you don't win the election.

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Condoms should be available in school bathrooms

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Wat?
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Re: What are your political beliefs?
« Reply #54 on: June 08, 2012, 10:00:22 pm »
*Put criminals into involuntary servitude

That is slavery, you know that?

Like it or not, criminals are still human beings.

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*Harvest Organs of dead people no matter what.

And this'll increase the incidents of people being killed expressly for their organs.  Thanks.

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*Place tariffs on foreign goods

*Subsidize clean energy

I have no opinion on these.

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*Decentralize education.

Am I correct in assuming that you mean to privatize education with this?

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*Ban Affirmative Action, as it is a violation of the Civil Rights Act

Why?

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*Tax capital gains over 50%

*Tax the hell out of star athletes & actors.

This sounds good, depends on what kinds of taxes though.

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*Reform our voting system to approval voting or proportional representation. If you don't win 51% of the vote, you don't win the election.

Helloooooo tyranny of the majority.

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How we make no such thing as "legal gender"?

I can't tell if you're asking a question or making a suggestion.

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Condoms should be available in school bathrooms

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Wat?

A more or less private place to obtain them so that there needs to be no sexshaming involved for either party.
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Re: What are your political beliefs?
« Reply #55 on: June 08, 2012, 10:05:29 pm »
*Put criminals into involuntary servitude

That is slavery, you know that?

Like it or not, criminals are still human beings.

While I agree with Zachski here, I'd add that involuntary servitude is already practiced in the United States through the obscene existence of private prison and the prison industry.
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Re: What are your political beliefs?
« Reply #56 on: June 08, 2012, 10:23:48 pm »
And this'll increase the incidents of people being killed expressly for their organs.  Thanks.
So what you're saying is increasing the supply of organs will somehow increase the number of people being offed for their organs? Even ignoring the bizarro-economics behind this logic, I was wholly unaware that this sort of thing was even a problem now (at least in 1st world countries), when organs are harder to come by than winning lottery tickets.

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Re: What are your political beliefs?
« Reply #57 on: June 08, 2012, 10:42:52 pm »
*Ban Affirmative Action, as it is a violation of the Civil Rights Act

Noting the 'no arguing on this thread' rule, I have created a thread to show you how this is complete bullshit.



As for political ideology, mine is quite simple. Basically, we know what needs to be done to make a good society, with only a few exceptions (drug crime is one). On health insurance, short and long-term economics, education, third-world development, foreign relations, terrorism* and the rest, basically everyone knows the answer to most problems. The reason nothing ever gets done to fix them is what interests me. How to create a counter-conservative force? This is interesting.

* For the record, the answers are public health insurance, Keynesian economics in the short run with a strong welfare state in the long run, heavy state funding of education with no state funding for the private education system, protectionism, largely negotiation with little use of military force (in fact, there's not much need for national military forces at all) and ignore them. I have no idea what to do about drug crime, though China seems to be doing alright.
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Re: What are your political beliefs?
« Reply #58 on: June 08, 2012, 10:47:00 pm »
I have no idea what to do about drug crime, though China seems to be doing alright.
What, death penalty for anything more severe than dealing? I must say I never thought that sort of thing would be your bag.

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Re: What are your political beliefs?
« Reply #59 on: June 08, 2012, 10:54:01 pm »
I have no idea what to do about drug crime, though China seems to be doing alright.
What, death penalty for anything more severe than dealing? I must say I never thought that sort of thing would be your bag.

Deterrence doesn't work on drug crime, which is why jail terms don't work in the West. So the death penalty/throw people in jail/war on drugs approach is actually the same approach.

Something else they do must be working. A friend of mine suggested that, during the Cultural Revolution's destabilisation of Chinese society, everyone stopped using heroin. Meanwhile, the government crushed all organised crime, preventing drug importation. Nowadays, the urban poor are too poor to use.
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