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US Senate rejects amendment to expand gun-sale checks
« on: April 17, 2013, 07:18:40 pm »
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Re: US Senate rejects amendment to expand gun-sale checks
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2013, 07:54:59 pm »
Is anyone surprised?
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Re: US Senate rejects amendment to expand gun-sale checks
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2013, 08:16:52 pm »
You know, after the awesomeness of this morning's Nintendo Direct, as well as Agarest: Generations of War, Shovel Knight, and Dreamfall Chapters making it through Steam Greenlight... this is sort of a buzzkill.
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Re: US Senate rejects amendment to expand gun-sale checks
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2013, 08:18:23 pm »
Welp, so much for preventative measures. Hopefully Congress will eventually realize…I can’t type that seriously. The countdown to the next massacre and reopening of this issue begins now.
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Re: US Senate rejects amendment to expand gun-sale checks
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2013, 08:19:02 pm »
We have to keep on pluggin' that legislation. Rewrite & reintroduce. Maybe do something sneaky like attach it to another bill.
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Re: US Senate rejects amendment to expand gun-sale checks
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2013, 08:58:23 pm »
Guess who's winning the next Senate election in a landslide if they campaign well?
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Re: US Senate rejects amendment to expand gun-sale checks
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2013, 09:20:34 pm »
I thought for sure the gunning down of several children would change this society's attitude about unrestricted guns, but I guess not.
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Re: US Senate rejects amendment to expand gun-sale checks
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2013, 09:23:20 pm »
Motherfucking "Blue Dog" Democrats...
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Re: US Senate rejects amendment to expand gun-sale checks
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2013, 10:07:44 pm »
Quote from: clockworkgirl21 on April 17, 2013, 09:20:34 pm
I thought for sure the gunning down of several children would change this society's attitude about unrestricted guns, but I guess not.

It has...but it's the TEAlabanis & Blue Dogs that are the spanner in the works.

Time to yank that spanner out. Vote 'em out in 2014 and yank that darn spanner out!
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Re: US Senate rejects amendment to expand gun-sale checks
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2013, 12:58:05 am »
90% OF THIS COUNTRY WANTS THIS YOU IDIOTS!  NO BRAINER!  JESUS!
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Re: US Senate rejects amendment to expand gun-sale checks
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2013, 01:25:43 am »
In a typical fashion, the moronic dipshits extreme right-wingers on my Facebook are cumming themselves over this decision.
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Re: US Senate rejects amendment to expand gun-sale checks
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2013, 01:30:30 am »
Quote from: B-Man on April 18, 2013, 01:25:43 am
In a typical fashion, the moronic dipshits extreme right-wingers on my Facebook are cumming themselves over this decision.

Same here.  One of the most common one I've seen is calling people disappointed in the outcome and Obama "spoiled children acting like they didn't get their favorite toy".  Seriously?  We can't even be grownups about THIS?
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Re: US Senate rejects amendment to expand gun-sale checks
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2013, 01:34:52 am »
Quote from: TGRwulf on April 18, 2013, 01:30:30 am
Quote from: B-Man on April 18, 2013, 01:25:43 am
In a typical fashion, the moronic dipshits extreme right-wingers on my Facebook are cumming themselves over this decision.

Same here.  One of the most common one I've seen is calling people disappointed in the outcome and Obama "spoiled children acting like they didn't get their favorite toy".  Seriously?  We can't even be grownups about THIS?

I do believe they're looking in an inverse mirror.  That is to say, they're acting like that little braggart kid rubbing a "win" in the face of their enemy they just beat.  You know the kind of kid I'm talking about.  The smug fucknut.
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Re: US Senate rejects amendment to expand gun-sale checks
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2013, 02:11:06 am »
The Australian ABC reported it like this, which I thought was interesting:

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Despite emotional pleas from families of victims of gun violence and broad public support nationwide, the plan to extend background checks to online and gun show sales failed on a 54-46 vote, six votes short of the 60-vote hurdle needed to clear the Senate.

There is no such hurdle in American law. A bill with 50 votes and the VP is, legally and morally, as legitimate as one with 100 senators. The Republicans choose to routinely fillibuster everything, including judicial appointments they support, uncontroversial heads of agencies they don't like and bills backed by 90% of everyone, ever. I think they made it seem like this abuse of the fillibuster is just part of nature, rather than the product of a deeply irresponsible decision by one particular political party (and, of course, the utter disorganisation and cowardice of the other).

I think this is also a good point:

"There are already a number of Democratic Senators complaining about the Republicans' corruption and extremist intransigence. That's fine insofar as it goes, but it's a case of crocodile tears.

There was an opportunity at the beginning the session to change the rules to prevent Republicans from blocking a vote with only 46 Senators, without even needing to hold the floor making speeches to defend standing against 90% of the American public. Senators Reid and Feinstein were among those who refused to make that change.

They knew when they kept the Senate rules as is that this sort of thing would almost certainly happen. And it has.

So no whining. They had an opportunity to fix this, and they didn't."

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com.au/2013/04/dont-whine-sen-feinstein-by-davidoatkins.html

I also think it's appropriate that the NRA greeted the result with a blatant, known falsehood (which I'm not allowed to call a lie for some reason).

"Gun ban amendment fails 40-60! It doesn't even get a simple majority! Victory for gun owners! #NRAStandAndFight"

And the earlier ABC story
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-04-18/gun-control-snub-a-day-of-shame-for-washington-obama/4636144
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Re: US Senate rejects amendment to expand gun-sale checks
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2013, 02:41:30 am »
I know you want to change the rules, Lt. Fred, but that would have broad consequences beyond just this bill.  Shit, it'd probably come to bite the democrats in the ass later down the road.  I dunno.  I just think you're taking the idea of a rule change a little too lightly.
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