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Obama endorses same-sex marriage
« on: May 09, 2012, 03:11:14 pm »
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WASHINGTON -- In a nod to a dramatic shift in public opinion, Barack Obama on Wednesday became the first sitting president to announce his support for same-sex marriage.

In a sit-down interview with ABC's Robin Roberts, Obama completed what has been a markedly long and oft-mocked evolution on the matter.

"I've always been adamant that gay and lesbian Americans should be treated fairly," Obama told Roberts, in an interview that will air in full on ABC's "Good Morning America" Thursday.

"I have to tell you that over the course of several years as I have talked to friends and family and neighbors when I think about members of my own staff who are in incredibly committed monogamous relationships, same-sex relationships, who are raising kids together, when I think about those soldiers or airmen or marines or sailors who are out there fighting on my behalf and yet feel constrained, even now that Don't Ask Don't Tell is gone, because they are not able to commit themselves in a marriage, at a certain point I’ve just concluded that for me personally it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that I think same sex couples should be able to get married," he said.

Very very risky considering the nature of the statement and as it's been released now.  But, if he does support it, and support it whole-heartedly, major victory for same-sex couples everywhere.

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Re: Obama endorses same-sex marriage
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2012, 03:14:43 pm »
Better late than never I suppose. WHOO!

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Re: Obama endorses same-sex marriage
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2012, 03:33:39 pm »
The man has balls! Who knew?

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Re: Obama endorses same-sex marriage
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2012, 04:14:53 pm »
I'm happy, but as much as I hate to say this about an ally, I still feel this is either an opportunistic move on his part to pander to his liberal and LGBTQ bases or like he finally felt like it was politically "safe" to admit what he actually thought all along.

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Re: Obama endorses same-sex marriage
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2012, 04:20:36 pm »
I'm happy, but as much as I hate to say this about an ally, I still feel this is either an opportunistic move on his part to pander to his liberal and LGBTQ bases or like he finally felt like it was politically "safe" to admit what he actually thought all along.

And now you know what makes him a politician.
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Re: Obama endorses same-sex marriage
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2012, 04:24:11 pm »
Obama is, apparently, quite a clever Chessmaster. He plays a slow game, though, which gives the illusion of him not getting much done.

If this election goes Exactly As Planned, then we might get a real treat.
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Re: Obama endorses same-sex marriage
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2012, 05:33:49 pm »
If this election goes Exactly As Planned, then we might get a real treat.

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Re: Obama endorses same-sex marriage
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2012, 05:39:44 pm »
Well this didn't take long.

Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/09/mitt-romney-same-sex-marriage-man-woman_n_1504177.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003

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Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney on Wednesday reiterated that he opposes same-sex marriage, a few hours after President Barack Obama said for the first time he supports it.

"My view is that marriage itself is a relationship between a man and a woman and that's my own preference," Romney told reporters in Oklahoma. "I know other people have differing views. This is a very tender and sensitive topic, as are many social issues, but I have the same view that I've had since running for office."

Obama came out in support of same-sex marriage on Wednesday in an interview with ABC. The announcement prompted a flurry of responses, from Democrats praising his statements to Republicans decrying them. (See the slideshow below for some reactions.)

Romney said he supports states' rights to make decisions on domestic partnership benefits, including hospital visitation. Obama, while saying he personally supports same-sex marriage, also said the issue should be left to the states to decide.

Ironbite-anyone surprised?

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Re: Obama endorses same-sex marriage
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2012, 05:56:04 pm »
Well hopefully Obama uses Mitt's views as one of intolerance.
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Re: Obama endorses same-sex marriage
« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2012, 06:00:23 pm »
If this election goes Exactly As Planned, then we might get a real treat.



Well, I think he was forced to clarify his position partially because Biden was flapping his mouth.

i know this probably sounds stupid and pedantic but the fact he didn't mention bisexuals and transfolk kinda bothers me
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Re: Obama endorses same-sex marriage
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2012, 06:05:23 pm »
I don't think it was a mis-step, or something he was forced into. He needs to re-energize his base, and anyone who would vote based on him being pro-gay marriage was already not going to vote for him in the first place.
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Re: Obama endorses same-sex marriage
« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2012, 08:37:33 pm »
As a lead up to the election, Obama needs to go further left and he knows it.

He's probably been waiting for this. This exact opportunity.

He does everything carefully.
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Re: Obama endorses same-sex marriage
« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2012, 08:58:19 pm »
Well this didn't take long.

Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/09/mitt-romney-same-sex-marriage-man-woman_n_1504177.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003

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Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney on Wednesday reiterated that he opposes same-sex marriage, a few hours after President Barack Obama said for the first time he supports it.

"My view is that marriage itself is a relationship between a man and a woman and that's my own preference," Romney told reporters in Oklahoma. "I know other people have differing views. This is a very tender and sensitive topic, as are many social issues, but I have the same view that I've had since running for office."

Obama came out in support of same-sex marriage on Wednesday in an interview with ABC. The announcement prompted a flurry of responses, from Democrats praising his statements to Republicans decrying them. (See the slideshow below for some reactions.)

Romney said he supports states' rights to make decisions on domestic partnership benefits, including hospital visitation. Obama, while saying he personally supports same-sex marriage, also said the issue should be left to the states to decide.

Ironbite-anyone surprised?

So basically there's no difference in the policies Obamney would enact.
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Re: Obama endorses same-sex marriage
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2012, 03:40:55 am »
I'm happy, but as much as I hate to say this about an ally, I still feel this is either an opportunistic move on his part to pander to his liberal and LGBTQ bases or like he finally felt like it was politically "safe" to admit what he actually thought all along.

And now you know what makes him a politician.

Now is a good time to remember that talk is cheap.  Obama promised a lot of things he couldn't or wouldn't deliver on (such as closing GITMO), and the gay marriage issue is not one that he has a whole lot of responsibility for either.  Family law is almost completely the responsibility of the states, and apart from de-prioritizing enforcement of the Defense of Marriage Act, there isn't much more he can do.

On the plus side, he finally got rid of Don't Ask Don't Tell, and for that I commend him.
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Re: Obama endorses same-sex marriage
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2012, 05:01:56 am »
Rather Jealous of you yanks right now, we have an atheist, female P.M. who says she's opposed to gay marriage because she pithily explains that marriage between a man and a woman "has a special status".