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For us in America, we do learn some amount wars before the time of America. Despite this emphasis on wars, though, we tend to miss important ones regardless. I'm a history buff, so I was curious if a world or more educated perspective could provide a more complete look.

Wars Americans who've had a standard Education Know About

Anything America was involved in (Though often gets renamed. Seven years war became French Indian. Napoleonic Wars became the war of 1812. Classy America.)

Battle of Tours and the repulse of Islam from the Christian Europe.

Vague, nebulous understanding of Roman Campaigns and conquest.

Cortez, his native allies, and the Aztecs

100 Years War and the Rebellion of the Netherlands from the Spanish

Alexander the Great's Campaign.



This List is much shorter than I expected. I tried to remove things I got because my History Teacher was a huge sinophile, at least of Chinese history, so learned a LOT about China that probably is missed in most classrooms. I'll refrain from talking about wars I know, but most of them relate to Russia in some way. 
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The Thirty Years War (1618-1648). Proportionately the bloodiest war in history, probably. It created the modern nation state. Not important, though.
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The Thirty Years War (1618-1648). Proportionately the bloodiest war in history, probably. It created the modern nation state. Not important, though.

Also lead to the creation of the pride and the idea of a Swedish Empire, which led to the Great Northern War (1700–21). Also participated the rise of Russia as a far more prominent figure of European politics. But we don't need to talk about Russia doing cool things and Pyotor the Great facing off against Carl Gustov.
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Also strengthened Poland-Lithuania by weakening some of their neighbours.
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The Winter War is one of those 'lesser known' wars that had pretty significant impact in the way it set the stage for things to come. It involves Russia so I'm sure you're well acquainted with it. ;)

Two battles of some significance would be Vimy Ridge  in WW1 and the Dieppe raid in WW2. Major moments for Canadians, and military historians will say these were turning points or valuable lessons learned, but they are not well known. To most nations, Vimy is simply a sector in the much larger battle of Arras.

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I take your Battle of Vimy Ridge and raise you a battle of Amiens. Australian-Canadian cooperation, yay! Tough an Australian was the brains behind the thing.
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And then there is the fight between China and the Abbsyaid Islamics over control of areas, which the end result decided the division of the area (Think it was around 1100. Don't remember it's name to give dates).  If the Muslims hadn't won against China, Europe would have brushed up against the borders of China. Armed with Gunpowder. That would be... different.
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I take your Battle of Vimy Ridge and raise you a battle of Amiens. Australian-Canadian cooperation, yay! Tough an Australian was the brains behind the thing.
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The Persian War and specifically the Battle of Thermopylae Pass is usually covered pretty well, isn't it?  I teach U.S. and World History, though certainly not in a standard setting, and I always give those a reasonable amount of attention (and I don't care for military history).  I remember learning about Thermopylae in my own high school World History class--I distinctly remember thinking that it was the single coolest thing ever to happen.
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Khalkin Gol/Nomonhan. The culmination of the Soviet/Japanese border conflicts in the late 1930s, a taste of the style of warfare that was to come and the start of Zhukov's rise through the ranks.

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Re: The Greatest Wars (Or Battles) the Ameri-Centric World has never heard of.
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2012, 01:46:12 am »
The Persian War and specifically the Battle of Thermopylae Pass is usually covered pretty well, isn't it?  I teach U.S. and World History, though certainly not in a standard setting, and I always give those a reasonable amount of attention (and I don't care for military history).  I remember learning about Thermopylae in my own high school World History class--I distinctly remember thinking that it was the single coolest thing ever to happen.

My history class regarded the Battle of Thermopylae little more than a piece of propaganda. It included a lot of Arcadians, far more than Spartans, and the Persians defeated them with a bit high, but nothing too crazy, causalities. During that war, the Naval defeat of the Persians was infinitely more important than the battle of Thermopylae. Probably one of the few Naval battles were 'knowing the terrain' really was hugely important, at least I know of.

Battle of Wizna is a tad more impressive.
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Re: The Greatest Wars (Or Battles) the Ameri-Centric World has never heard of.
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2012, 02:19:23 am »
How much attention is paid to the various Israeli conflicts, the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan, and the war in the Falklands by the US school system?

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Re: The Greatest Wars (Or Battles) the Ameri-Centric World has never heard of.
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2012, 02:27:47 am »
How much attention is paid to the various Israeli conflicts, the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan, and the war in the Falklands by the US school system?

My school has covered the history of the Israel-Palestine conflict, as well as the history of Afghanistan in regards to its relationship with America and the Soviet Union during the Cold War, but not the war in the Falklands. We do cover the Spanish-American War and the Philippine-American War in great detail, however. The latter is especially important to me because it seems that most Americans have never even heard of it, and even if they have, they do not know its context or what the war was actually about.
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Re: The Greatest Wars (Or Battles) the Ameri-Centric World has never heard of.
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2012, 03:27:19 am »
Interesting, I was just discussing with my cousin how certain regions/nations are left out of the world history curriculum in the USA.

I don't think that the history curriculum (at least as it was taught where I went to school) is Eurocentric so much as First-world-centric.  We covered much of Western European history, but also did a fair amount of material on modern Japan and China, as well as a little bit on the Middle East.  I remember we also did a bit on the "big 3" Native American civilizations.

Unfortunately that left out much of South and Southeast Asian history, almost all of Latin American, African, and South Pacific (Australia/New Zealand/Pacific Islands) history, and most of the early history of the Far East and Eastern Europe.

Needless to say, a number of horrific wars have been fought in all those places.  How many of these wars do you really know about?  After all, the deadliest post-WWII conflict was in Central Africa, and our own media barely covered it.
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Re: The Greatest Wars (Or Battles) the Ameri-Centric World has never heard of.
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2012, 03:43:55 am »
How much attention is paid to the various Israeli conflicts, the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan, and the war in the Falklands by the US school system?

A good deal to Israeli Conflicts, actually. I forgot about those from history class as opposed to personal research. Soviet occupation was more or less glossed over, while the War in the Falklands was given a little detail and background.
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