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Title: "Sin-meter" blood exams, weird scam in Finland.
Post by: Askold on January 22, 2014, 06:01:06 am
(http://syntimittari.fi/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/jesaja.jpg)

http://syntimittari.fi/

That site belongs to a new corporation which markets its services of "sin measurements" which they claim to be able to make through blood exams.

To prove why this works they have quoted some bible verses which they claim prove that a persons sins directly affect their blood and might even kill them. "Though the sins of you people should prove to be as scarlet, they will be made white just like snow; though they should be red like crimson cloth, they will become even like wool." (Isaiah 1:18)


(http://syntimittari.fi/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/autuaan-veri-e1358476072706.png)(http://syntimittari.fi/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/syntisen-veri-e1358475757214.png)
Pictured on the left is the "blood of the righteous" while pictured on the right is the "blood of the sinner."
And what are those "changes" in the blood that they can detect? Infections. If you are sick then it is because you are a horribe sinner. So rather than going to the doctor for antibiotics or other medicine you should just pray more. (I have not yet found out if they offer other paid services to clense the victim client of sins but it would not suprise me.)

They also offer some "Confession" service where you can confess your sins to them directly on the website.

Map of the locations where they provide the services (Holy shit there are a lot of them)
http://dropperist.com/
http://dropperbot.com/blood-purity-research/

Actually, that site appears to be in English... But it doesn't mention the sins in english and now they claim that these blood impurities are caused by things like alcohol, cancer, smoking, veganism, drinking coffee or other ilnesses.

As an added amusement, they have english text but all the graphs seem to be in finnish...

One thing that they did have is a chart that shows how much the employees earn money per samples they get:
(http://dropperbot.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Palkkiokaavio.jpg)
"Iso päällikkö" basically mean "Big chief" Or "Big boss." Kouluttaja = Trainer and Näytteenottaja= sample taker. So basically the lowest level employees are working unpaid.

Seems to be a common scam for money though the worst part is that they are (unsuprisingly) preying on the weak and sickly.
Title: Re: "Sin-meter" blood exams, weird scam in Finland.
Post by: Witchyjoshy on January 22, 2014, 06:10:05 am
Is anyone reminded of scientology?
Title: Re: "Sin-meter" blood exams, weird scam in Finland.
Post by: Damen on January 22, 2014, 10:56:24 am
Is anyone reminded of scientology?

Watch it, they might sue you!
Title: Re: "Sin-meter" blood exams, weird scam in Finland.
Post by: Dakota Bob on January 22, 2014, 11:12:19 am
We've got some weird fucks here, man.
Title: Re: "Sin-meter" blood exams, weird scam in Finland.
Post by: mellenORL on January 22, 2014, 11:32:04 am
With the victims being encouraged to divulge compromising information via confessions of their sins, and having also a sample of blood for DNA (only used as a threat - they don't need to bother with the expense of a test, just send the victim a generic picture of a DNA test result), this would make a perfect blackmail victim harvesting scam. The fees for "blood sin analysis" are just the beginning. I never look at a "Christian" tagged organization or company as being innocently stupid fundie...it's just too common for criminals to play the wolf in sheep's clothing by exploiting the believers. "Christian" Mortgage Loans, "Christian" Tax Preparers, etc. all sending out spam emails, and now this shit, where they are going after the really vulnerable fanatical believers...
Title: Re: "Sin-meter" blood exams, weird scam in Finland.
Post by: Old Viking on January 22, 2014, 03:29:05 pm
For a modest surcharge they'll toss in a urine analysis.
Title: Re: "Sin-meter" blood exams, weird scam in Finland.
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 22, 2014, 03:58:33 pm
What's really sad is that there are some who would fall for this.
Title: Re: "Sin-meter" blood exams, weird scam in Finland.
Post by: Katsuro on January 22, 2014, 03:59:26 pm
What's really sad is that there are some who would fall for this.

What's even sadder is there's probbaly quite a lot who would fall for it.
Title: Re: "Sin-meter" blood exams, weird scam in Finland.
Post by: I am lizard on January 22, 2014, 11:45:23 pm
Why is what they're describing sounding so much like SCP-093?
Title: Re: "Sin-meter" blood exams, weird scam in Finland.
Post by: gomer21xx on January 23, 2014, 12:05:54 am
Is anyone reminded of scientology?

I know I am.

Except with less electro-brainwashing and blackmail.
Title: Re: "Sin-meter" blood exams, weird scam in Finland.
Post by: Ghoti on January 23, 2014, 11:29:54 am
Well shit a brick and fuck me with it, looks like it's time to play The Headdesk Game. *donk* *donk* *donk*
Title: Re: "Sin-meter" blood exams, weird scam in Finland.
Post by: Askold on January 23, 2014, 12:18:27 pm
Is anyone reminded of scientology?

I know I am.

Except with less electro-brainwashing and blackmail.

Scientology also has several decades worth of all kinds of horrible behaviour behind them, while these people have barely gotten started.
Title: Re: "Sin-meter" blood exams, weird scam in Finland.
Post by: Witchyjoshy on January 23, 2014, 01:54:25 pm
Give them time, I'm sure they'll do their best to catch up.
Title: Re: "Sin-meter" blood exams, weird scam in Finland.
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 23, 2014, 02:40:18 pm
I hope the Finnish government nips this in the bud.  I don't want this to end with a mass suicide or the siege of a compound.
Title: Re: "Sin-meter" blood exams, weird scam in Finland.
Post by: niam2023 on January 23, 2014, 03:17:47 pm
Even though it is fake and a horrible, horrible scam, a part of me really wants to know what would happen if they ran Donald Trump's blood through the sin-meter.

All the same, this does sound horribly cult-like, and very reminiscent of the group psychology that was prevalent before numerous cult stand-offs and such.

Hope the Finnish government stops this before it gets to  Jones Town or Waco levels.
Title: Re: "Sin-meter" blood exams, weird scam in Finland.
Post by: Sigmaleph on January 23, 2014, 10:43:00 pm
So far it seems more scammish than suicide-cult-ish.
Title: Re: "Sin-meter" blood exams, weird scam in Finland.
Post by: Askold on January 24, 2014, 01:05:33 am
So far it seems more scammish than suicide-cult-ish.
Yeah.

The thing that really confuses me is that, as I said the English and Finnish versions of the site are COMPLETELY different. Are they running two different scams? Pseudoscience for the english speaking and religious scam for Finns? Did they think of the religious scam only after making the website for the pseudoscience thingy and forgot / didn't bother to change the english version?
Title: Re: "Sin-meter" blood exams, weird scam in Finland.
Post by: RavynousHunter on January 24, 2014, 01:34:03 pm
Religion is one of the easiest ways to exploit people outside money and sex.  Anyone lazy enough to use it is likely lazy enough to not make a proper site.
Title: Re: "Sin-meter" blood exams, weird scam in Finland.
Post by: Witchyjoshy on January 24, 2014, 02:56:03 pm
Religion is one of the easiest ways to exploit people outside money and sex.  Anyone lazy enough to use it is likely lazy enough to not make a proper site.

True that.
Title: Re: "Sin-meter" blood exams, weird scam in Finland.
Post by: Cerim Treascair on January 24, 2014, 07:56:08 pm
Having spoken to a Finnish friend of mine, whom I showed the site to, his opinion is it's some parody or satire.
Title: Re: "Sin-meter" blood exams, weird scam in Finland.
Post by: chitoryu12 on January 24, 2014, 08:50:47 pm
Even though it is fake and a horrible, horrible scam, a part of me really wants to know what would happen if they ran Donald Trump's blood through the sin-meter.

The meter would implode. Just crumple in on itself.
Title: Re: "Sin-meter" blood exams, weird scam in Finland.
Post by: I am lizard on January 25, 2014, 09:12:56 pm
Even though it is fake and a horrible, horrible scam, a part of me really wants to know what would happen if they ran Donald Trump's blood through the sin-meter.

The meter would implode. Just crumple in on itself.
Only carbon based life has blood, silly!