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Title: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Askold on September 22, 2015, 04:51:14 am
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/hedge-funder-buys-rights-to-drug-used-by-aids-patients-and-raises-price-from-1350-to-750-per-pill-10511690.html

Once again Capitalism works. Hedge fund trader sees that people need to buy drugs for AIDS and the price of the drugs is mere 13,50$/pill while they would obviously be willing to pay more for the drugs. Solution: They buy the drugs and start to demand 750$/pill.

(http://sharkberg.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/recettear-face.png)

Oh, the drugs are also needed by cancer patients and pregnant women.

AND he complains that he is the victim of a media attack and defends himself with the Eminem song "The way I am" because that is classy.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: guizonde on September 22, 2015, 05:16:01 am
but why? money at the cost of lives?
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Askold on September 22, 2015, 05:20:28 am
In case you haven't heard about it, we have this thing called "capitalism." The main purpose of companies is to make as much money as possible and this guy figured out that if people die unless they get that medicine then they are willing to pay for it a lot more than the old price was.

...He is defending himself by saying that part of the money goes to study new drugs (so they basically make the customers pay for research to avoid any risks involved in researching new products AND they are still making fuckloads of money.)

They also say that there are "free" alternatives for people who can't afford the drug, which I assume means that the US tax payers will be paying for it either through taxes or through higher insurance costs if insurance companies are forced to pay for these pills.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: niam2023 on September 22, 2015, 05:37:33 am
The hedgefunder deserves to die. Just saying.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 22, 2015, 07:09:54 am
(http://oi62.tinypic.com/2qj9fz9.jpg)
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Eiki-mun on September 22, 2015, 09:50:39 am
Would someone just kill him already? And maybe his family too? If anyone deserves being murdered, it's this guy.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: mellenORL on September 22, 2015, 09:55:47 am
AIDS patients need to have their multi-drug regimens adjusted all the time to stay ahead of the constantly evolving virus. Making any one of the meds unaffordable can be a death sentence in the US. Either their insurance copays for this drug will be untenable, or their insurer will not cover the cost at all. Gotta love this country. A man who hides behind the underlings in his company defrauds Medicare of billions of dollars, and then becomes a state governor. And this guy here is lauded as a great, savvy businessman in some circles. Thieves and murderers, both.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Cataclysm on September 22, 2015, 11:45:17 am
Would this be averted if we didn't have IP laws for medicine? I'm not sure how that works.

I know that many European countries have price ceilings for medicines and it worked fine for them.

(https://news-images.vice.com/images/2015/09/21/untitled-article-1442865201-body-image-1442865313.png?output-quality=75)

No, this is entirely your fault.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Ironchew on September 22, 2015, 01:21:33 pm
Would someone just kill him already? And maybe his family too? If anyone deserves being murdered, it's this guy.

Isn't hate speech against FQA's rules?
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: mellenORL on September 22, 2015, 01:49:57 pm
Pfffft. Chew. Lame. It's a snark.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: nickiknack on September 22, 2015, 03:08:30 pm
The tweets (http://www.mic.com/articles/125650/martin-shkreli-turing-pharmaceuticals-daraprim?utm_source=policymicFB&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=WHFacebook&utm_content=11_2) people are sending him are priceless. That being said, nothing of value will be lost, if this asshole ends up dead or in jail(given that both Sen. Sanders, a Rep. Cummings have launched an investigation into the price hike). Seriously, this is the type shit that is wrong with this country.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Eiki-mun on September 22, 2015, 03:22:44 pm
Would someone just kill him already? And maybe his family too? If anyone deserves being murdered, it's this guy.

Isn't hate speech against FQA's rules?

That's just silly. Spitefully wishing for a particular rich asshole to be murdered doesn't even fit the definition of hate speech, in letter or in spirit.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: nickiknack on September 22, 2015, 03:31:20 pm
No surprise, the douche is currently under investigation for insider trading and fraud (http://ihttp://usuncut.com/class-war/pharma-ceo-jacked-aids-drug-price-5500-sued-fraud-stalking-looting/). Can we just go ahead a start the tarring and feathering now??
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 22, 2015, 03:33:34 pm
If you put this guy in a movie, the audience would call him ridiculously over-the-top.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: ironbite on September 22, 2015, 06:15:55 pm
Hillary announced that she would be looking into this guy if made president, his company's stock tanked 20%

Ironbite-me thinks he might be put upon the alter and sacrificed to the SEC gods before long.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Even Then on September 22, 2015, 06:18:31 pm
Would someone just kill him already? And maybe his family too? If anyone deserves being murdered, it's this guy.

Nah, his family is only guilty of the sin of being related to him. They should be spared, so they can go on living free of him.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Barbarella on September 22, 2015, 06:53:07 pm
I truly sense that Smirky McDouchiepants is gonna get a good dose of cosmic payback pretty soon!

Also, the way he expresses himself is like a super-villian. A smirky, troll-faced little punk who's gloating and smirkin' and just BEGGING to be punched! He's like "Yeah! I'm screwin' you over for funsies! I know! I'm an asshole! Eeyup! I'm proud, too!"

He's stokin' the outrage....playin' with fire....he will get burned!
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Even Then on September 22, 2015, 06:56:33 pm
You know what would be awesome? If he got AIDS, and then was told to pay like a million dollars for each pill.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: niam2023 on September 22, 2015, 07:02:18 pm
Is it really "hate speech" if he really does deserve to die?

When he gets what's his, it won't just hit him - his trust fund brat offspring will encounter more hurt than they have in their entire whiny trustfund lives.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Zygarde on September 22, 2015, 07:12:51 pm
Oh this douche canoe he holds a special place of hate in my heart, So several years ago my mom died, what she die of you might ask? AIDS so from the daughter of a woman who died of that horrible disease  fuck this guy, fuck him with a rusty metal spoon. I hope he looses all his money and get's blacklisted from every business known to mankind.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 22, 2015, 07:32:53 pm
At least Harry lime had class.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: niam2023 on September 22, 2015, 07:41:05 pm
If this guy was being attacked by a vicious serial killer, y'know what, I'd root for the serial killer.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Ironchew on September 22, 2015, 07:47:07 pm
Is it really "hate speech" if he really does deserve to die?

"really does deserve to die" is one of those frustratingly subjective moral pronouncements that can point in any direction. O'Reilly advocated for the death of Tiller "the baby killer" on numerous occasions. He probably felt abortion providers were doing just as much wrong.

I don't agree with him, but it illustrates how disturbing the "snark" sounds when it's pointed at someone else.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: niam2023 on September 22, 2015, 08:09:14 pm
its a good thing then that I don't care about morals in such a way.

What matters to me is that this guy is a worthless parasite, and he deserves absolutely anything that could come his way.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: nickiknack on September 22, 2015, 09:02:55 pm
And the back pedalling begins (http://abcnews.go.com/Health/company-lower-drug-price-critics-called-4000-hike/story?id=33955820)....
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: ironbite on September 22, 2015, 09:12:38 pm
He's trying to look good to the SEC.  I'm pretty sure they don't care.

Ironbite-douchy is about to find himself in a whole lot of hurt.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Damen on September 22, 2015, 09:19:54 pm
I still want him dead.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: nickiknack on September 22, 2015, 09:45:47 pm
If it makes you feel better I have a plan to sacrifice him to Cthulhu, to ensure Bernie Sanders gets the Democratic nomination. All are welcomed to join in on the fun
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Damen on September 22, 2015, 10:04:40 pm
Others might want him to suffer. I'm not like that. When someone pisses me off to the point that I wish for their death, I just want them dead. Oxygen is a precious resource and too valuable to waste on bags of filth like that.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: guizonde on September 22, 2015, 10:22:02 pm
Others might want him to suffer. I'm not like that. When someone pisses me off to the point that I wish for their death, I just want them dead. Oxygen is a precious resource and too valuable to waste on bags of filth like that.

damn, that's cold. niam and i could learn a thing or two from you. i'd have skinned him and thrown him in rock sugar (so it would scar better).
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: I am lizard on September 22, 2015, 11:05:41 pm
Others might want him to suffer. I'm not like that. When someone pisses me off to the point that I wish for their death, I just want them dead. Oxygen is a precious resource and too valuable to waste on bags of filth like that.
Mosin ammo is cheap.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: mellenORL on September 22, 2015, 11:08:33 pm
Just saw him in a video. What a weasel. Literally.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Damen on September 22, 2015, 11:18:04 pm
Others might want him to suffer. I'm not like that. When someone pisses me off to the point that I wish for their death, I just want them dead. Oxygen is a precious resource and too valuable to waste on bags of filth like that.

damn, that's cold. niam and i could learn a thing or two from you. i'd have skinned him and thrown him in rock sugar (so it would scar better).

I don't know if I should be complimented or if your approval should fill me with shame. I'll take it as a compliment considering that in this case I am shameless with my desire to see him dead.

Mosin ammo is cheap.

I don't have a mosin, though. But I do have a small surplus of 5.56, .45 ACP and 12-gauge.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: niam2023 on September 22, 2015, 11:21:31 pm
Man the internet despises him. I've already enjoyed a Hunger Games fanfic where the author didn't even bother changing his name, they just made him a citizen of the Capitol and had rebels burn him alive and dismember him.

I have to wonder if he's aware. It could make all this even more fun.

^ There's nothing to be ashamed of.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: I am lizard on September 22, 2015, 11:28:01 pm
Man the internet despises him. I've already enjoyed a Hunger Games fanfic where the author didn't even bother changing his name, they just made him a citizen of the Capitol and had rebels burn him alive and dismember him.

I have to wonder if he's aware. It could make all this even more fun.

^ There's nothing to be ashamed of.
Here's hoping he gets anonymous and every other vigililatne on the Internet harrassing him.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: nickiknack on September 22, 2015, 11:33:17 pm
Can I have a link to the fanfic, please?? It sounds right up my alley.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Svata on September 22, 2015, 11:41:20 pm
Meh. Skinned. Rolled in salt, given bucket of lemon juice to rinse off with. Then a choice. Liquid Nitrogen-frozen arms, or eyes removed via needles.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: nickiknack on September 22, 2015, 11:53:14 pm
We should all seriously get together, when the revolt starts. We'll have the best "Eat The Rich" party of them all.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Barbarella on September 23, 2015, 01:22:10 am
I'll get the spit, apple & BBQ sauce!

LONG-PIG TIME!



....good grief, I'm getting into cannibalism. Gross.  :P

But still, ROAST HIM!
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: I am lizard on September 23, 2015, 01:34:27 am
I call seasoning!
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Art Vandelay on September 23, 2015, 01:53:36 am
Others might want him to suffer. I'm not like that. When someone pisses me off to the point that I wish for their death, I just want them dead. Oxygen is a precious resource and too valuable to waste on bags of filth like that.
Personally, I'd take it one step further. Jail him, ban him from ever working in finance, whatever it takes to make him irrelevant. Once that's done, ignore the guy and fix the system that allowed this to happen in the first place. Otherwise, cathartic as it may be to focus on righteous vengeance, it'll just be a matter of time before another fund manager figures out that holding life-saving medicine to ransom is a great way to make a quick buck and we'll be right back to square one.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: guizonde on September 23, 2015, 07:04:02 am
Others might want him to suffer. I'm not like that. When someone pisses me off to the point that I wish for their death, I just want them dead. Oxygen is a precious resource and too valuable to waste on bags of filth like that.
Personally, I'd take it one step further. Jail him, ban him from ever working in finance, whatever it takes to make him irrelevant. Once that's done, ignore the guy and fix the system that allowed this to happen in the first place. Otherwise, cathartic as it may be to focus on righteous vengeance, it'll just be a matter of time before another fund manager figures out that holding life-saving medicine to ransom is a great way to make a quick buck and we'll be right back to square one.

so? we film the exectution and make a buck off their suffering by making it pay-per-view.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: rookie on September 23, 2015, 12:18:52 pm
Can we just strip him naked and drop him off somewhere? Somewhere with a very high AIDS population and an even higher crime rate? The SOB isn't worth the angry energy.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: nickiknack on September 23, 2015, 01:44:00 pm
How about putting him on a rocket to the sun, fueled by angry energy??
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Dr. Weird on September 23, 2015, 04:40:50 pm
So...believe it or not, this assnozzle has acquired a defender!

Want to take any guesses who they are, or at least where they work?

(click to show/hide)





Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: TheUnknown on September 23, 2015, 05:52:13 pm
So...believe it or not, this assnozzle has acquired a defender!

Want to take any guesses who they are, or at least where they work?

(click to show/hide)







I think Bolling's defense is hilarious considering the first article posted in this thread had a commenter trying to explain that "this isn't the fault of capitalism, just bad patent laws".  So we have people trying to either deny this as a horrible product of capitalism in order to defend capitalism, or admitting that it's a natural product of capitalism but it's not that bad because it'll resolve itself in order to defend capitalism.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: The_Queen on September 23, 2015, 07:08:31 pm
Others might want him to suffer. I'm not like that. When someone pisses me off to the point that I wish for their death, I just want them dead. Oxygen is a precious resource and too valuable to waste on bags of filth like that.
Personally, I'd take it one step further. Jail him, ban him from ever working in finance, whatever it takes to make him irrelevant. Once that's done, ignore the guy and fix the system that allowed this to happen in the first place. Otherwise, cathartic as it may be to focus on righteous vengeance, it'll just be a matter of time before another fund manager figures out that holding life-saving medicine to ransom is a great way to make a quick buck and we'll be right back to square one.

Art is right. All this thread is becoming is how to brutally torture this jerk. Fact is, we live in a country where not only hedgefund managers do this to us, but hospitals, insurance companies, doctors, really our whole health care sector save Medicare/Medicaid who are too busy getting fleeced. While thinking of deranged and inhumane methods of torture is prudent, fact is he is a cog of a larger flawed system. He simply lacked the suave and finesse of other health care actors, and went for the large price hike all at once. As much hate as this guy is getting, he isn't the problem, nor is he the biggest problem in this area: he just wasn't smart enough to get away with it.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: nickiknack on September 23, 2015, 11:30:20 pm
I've come across a few LOLibertarians on FB defending the douche, by saying shit like "It will only effect a few people" and/or "the company has said they're give a discount to poor people, which ignores the fact that this is still not only a dick move, but it highlights how shittastic the US Healthcare system still is.

Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Even Then on September 24, 2015, 12:22:51 am
"yeah some people might die of AIDS solely because this spunkrag wanted a few more million dollars, but there aren't enough of them for me to give a shit"
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Askold on September 24, 2015, 12:58:17 am
I've seen a few people claim that this only happened because "government interferes with business" and if the Gov and insurance companies didn't interfere there wouldn't be a need to jack up the prices. (Which is the complete opposite. With completely free market there would not be any need to ask for less than the absolutely highest price you think you can get away with.)

Apparently the way to fix this is to get the government out of medicine business and let free market magically fix everything.

...Yeah, no.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: I am lizard on September 24, 2015, 01:05:55 am
"yeah some people might die of AIDS solely because this spunkrag wanted a few more million dollars, but there aren't enough of them for me to give a shit"
As long as I get a steady supply of tea and rubber I don't care.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Barbarella on September 24, 2015, 10:30:12 am
Others might want him to suffer. I'm not like that. When someone pisses me off to the point that I wish for their death, I just want them dead. Oxygen is a precious resource and too valuable to waste on bags of filth like that.
Personally, I'd take it one step further. Jail him, ban him from ever working in finance, whatever it takes to make him irrelevant. Once that's done, ignore the guy and fix the system that allowed this to happen in the first place. Otherwise, cathartic as it may be to focus on righteous vengeance, it'll just be a matter of time before another fund manager figures out that holding life-saving medicine to ransom is a great way to make a quick buck and we'll be right back to square one.

You're right.

We're just indulging in revenge fantasies....we know torture and cannibalism is stupid....but we're having fun with creative imaginary punishments to let off steam.



Sort-of in the vein of Dr. Weird's post,

There's an unexpected detractor of this Hedgefund DoucheBro who thinks that kid is a scum-sucker.

You'll never guess who he is, either (and it's someone you really wouldn't expect, unlike that other guy)!.....
(click to show/hide)

You know what they say...."Even Evil Has Standards"!

Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: guizonde on September 24, 2015, 10:42:14 am
Others might want him to suffer. I'm not like that. When someone pisses me off to the point that I wish for their death, I just want them dead. Oxygen is a precious resource and too valuable to waste on bags of filth like that.
Personally, I'd take it one step further. Jail him, ban him from ever working in finance, whatever it takes to make him irrelevant. Once that's done, ignore the guy and fix the system that allowed this to happen in the first place. Otherwise, cathartic as it may be to focus on righteous vengeance, it'll just be a matter of time before another fund manager figures out that holding life-saving medicine to ransom is a great way to make a quick buck and we'll be right back to square one.

You're right.

We're just indulging in revenge fantasies....we know torture and cannibalism is stupid....but we're having fun with creative imaginary punishments to let off steam.

it is? stupid, i mean. i thought it was amoral.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 24, 2015, 11:16:17 am
Others might want him to suffer. I'm not like that. When someone pisses me off to the point that I wish for their death, I just want them dead. Oxygen is a precious resource and too valuable to waste on bags of filth like that.
Personally, I'd take it one step further. Jail him, ban him from ever working in finance, whatever it takes to make him irrelevant. Once that's done, ignore the guy and fix the system that allowed this to happen in the first place. Otherwise, cathartic as it may be to focus on righteous vengeance, it'll just be a matter of time before another fund manager figures out that holding life-saving medicine to ransom is a great way to make a quick buck and we'll be right back to square one.

You're right.

We're just indulging in revenge fantasies....we know torture and cannibalism is stupid....but we're having fun with creative imaginary punishments to let off steam.



Sort-of in the vein of Dr. Weird's post,

There's an unexpected detractor of this Hedgefund DoucheBro who thinks that kid is a scum-sucker.

You'll never guess who he is, either (and it's someone you really wouldn't expect, unlike that other guy)!.....
(click to show/hide)

You know what they say...."Even Evil Has Standards"!

I'd say he's more abrasive and delusional than outright evil, but yeah, when The Donald has legitimate reason to think you're a scumbag, you know you're an awful excuse for a human being.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Barbarella on September 24, 2015, 12:42:50 pm
Others might want him to suffer. I'm not like that. When someone pisses me off to the point that I wish for their death, I just want them dead. Oxygen is a precious resource and too valuable to waste on bags of filth like that.
Personally, I'd take it one step further. Jail him, ban him from ever working in finance, whatever it takes to make him irrelevant. Once that's done, ignore the guy and fix the system that allowed this to happen in the first place. Otherwise, cathartic as it may be to focus on righteous vengeance, it'll just be a matter of time before another fund manager figures out that holding life-saving medicine to ransom is a great way to make a quick buck and we'll be right back to square one.

You're right.

We're just indulging in revenge fantasies....we know torture and cannibalism is stupid....but we're having fun with creative imaginary punishments to let off steam.



Sort-of in the vein of Dr. Weird's post,

There's an unexpected detractor of this Hedgefund DoucheBro who thinks that kid is a scum-sucker.

You'll never guess who he is, either (and it's someone you really wouldn't expect, unlike that other guy)!.....
(click to show/hide)

You know what they say...."Even Evil Has Standards"!

I'd say he's more abrasive and delusional than outright evil, but yeah, when The Donald has legitimate reason to think you're a scumbag, you know you're an awful excuse for a human being.


(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f226/SpukiKitty/All%20My%20General%20Reactions/profile_picture_by_eeyupplz-d47lusw_zps49ybxwv9.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/SpukiKitty/media/All%20My%20General%20Reactions/profile_picture_by_eeyupplz-d47lusw_zps49ybxwv9.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Sigmaleph on September 24, 2015, 04:27:37 pm
I've seen a few people claim that this only happened because "government interferes with business" and if the Gov and insurance companies didn't interfere there wouldn't be a need to jack up the prices. (Which is the complete opposite. With completely free market there would not be any need to ask for less than the absolutely highest price you think you can get away with.)

Well, no. In a completely free market there'd be other people making pyrimethamine and selling it cheaper than this asshole, because why wouldn't they? Making the stuff is cheap, sell it cheaper than him and you can capture the market.

The reason that doesn't happen in the not-completely-free market is that it's expensive to get the FDA to let you sell your own drugs. For good reasons! But still.

This is not the free market's fault, because this isn't a free market (and shouldn't be). This is mostly Martin Shkreli's fault, plus some blame left over for the system that sets up the incentives this way.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: I am lizard on September 24, 2015, 08:12:27 pm
I've seen a few people claim that this only happened because "government interferes with business" and if the Gov and insurance companies didn't interfere there wouldn't be a need to jack up the prices. (Which is the complete opposite. With completely free market there would not be any need to ask for less than the absolutely highest price you think you can get away with.)

Well, no. In a completely free market there'd be other people making pyrimethamine and selling it cheaper than this asshole, because why wouldn't they? Making the stuff is cheap, sell it cheaper than him and you can capture the market.

The reason that doesn't happen in the not-completely-free market is that it's expensive to get the FDA to let you sell your own drugs. For good reasons! But still.

This is not the free market's fault, because this isn't a free market (and shouldn't be). This is mostly Martin Shkreli's fault, plus some blame left over for the system that sets up the incentives this way.
Or a mega corparation could just buy up all the means of manufacturing the drug and create a monopoly.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Sigmaleph on September 24, 2015, 08:52:26 pm
I'm not sure that applies here. You can't buy all the labs in the world.

(also, worth pointing out, according to Vox (http://www.vox.com/2015/9/22/9373557/daraprim-competitor-turing), the reasons nobody is undercutting Shkreli is because the market is small enough it's too risky to try)
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: MadCatTLX on October 02, 2015, 12:08:44 am
I'm not sure that applies here. You can't buy all the labs in the world.

(also, worth pointing out, according to Vox (http://www.vox.com/2015/9/22/9373557/daraprim-competitor-turing), the reasons nobody is undercutting Shkreli is because the market is small enough it's too risky to try)

A week late on my part to post this, but yes, there was no patent on this drug from what I here. It's just that no one else wanted to make it because there was a tiny market. Arguably fuckwit here created a market to sell it at an increased price, albeit far less than he did.

It's a bit of a moot point to post now, but I love what someone else said on the matter (Paraphrased): "Good thing he didn't do something to piss people off enough to want him dead. It's not like there's anyone who would both hate him and have nothing to lose. Like maybe someone with a terminal illness who can't afford the medicine they need, because of his actions, and will soon be dead anyway."
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Barbarella on October 02, 2015, 10:58:39 am
There should be a funny little flash game called "Punch The Pharma DoucheBro".
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: nickiknack on October 02, 2015, 12:46:32 pm
There should be a funny little flash game called "Punch The Pharma DoucheBro".

I really need this now.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Barbarella on October 03, 2015, 09:40:21 pm
There should be a funny little flash game called "Punch The Pharma DoucheBro".

I really need this now.

What's the company that makes those things? Somebody needs to write them with the suggestion.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: guizonde on October 03, 2015, 10:22:48 pm
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aEzXegK_460s.jpg)

here ya go, guize. hopes ya likez it.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: nickiknack on October 03, 2015, 10:39:14 pm
I love it. *kisses guizonde on the cheek*
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 03, 2015, 10:46:36 pm
There should be a funny little flash game called "Punch The Pharma DoucheBro".

I really need this now.

What's the company that makes those things? Somebody needs to write them with the suggestion.

And I'm sure it would attract less controversy than when it happened to Anita Sarkeesian.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Barbarella on October 04, 2015, 01:12:49 pm
I love it. *kisses guizonde on the cheek*

 :-* *SpukiKitty does the same* :-*


There should be a funny little flash game called "Punch The Pharma DoucheBro".

I really need this now.

What's the company that makes those things? Somebody needs to write them with the suggestion.

And I'm sure it would attract less controversy than when it happened to Anita Sarkeesian.

Well, if jerks can do it, why not normal people?

Heck! There's something like that with a South Park cartoon-style Kim Davis. You shoot marriage applications at her.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: nickiknack on October 09, 2015, 02:22:19 pm
So Pharma Douche has yet to lower the price of the drug, and has instead sent his lawyers and lobbyists to DC, cause Some members of congress  wrote a nasty letter to him and it hurt his feelings
http://ringoffireradio.com/2015/10/08/pharma-bro-shkreli-didnt-lower-the-price-of-darapri/ (http://ringoffireradio.com/2015/10/08/pharma-bro-shkreli-didnt-lower-the-price-of-darapri/)
http://www.politicususa.com/2015/10/09/bernie-sanders-busts-turing-pharmaceuticals-ceo-lowering-price-lifesaving-drug.html (http://www.politicususa.com/2015/10/09/bernie-sanders-busts-turing-pharmaceuticals-ceo-lowering-price-lifesaving-drug.html)

Can we kill him now??
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Askold on October 09, 2015, 02:31:32 pm
No, murder is bad.

We just need to use him as an example of why unrestricted capitalism is bad and why universal healthcare and affordable medicine should be considered human rights.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: nickiknack on October 09, 2015, 02:36:28 pm
how about the added bonus of at least making him hurt, if not murder, then maybe tarring and feathering him, or sending Niam to deal with him??
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: mellenORL on October 09, 2015, 03:28:36 pm
Of course he backpedaled. He's a fucking weasel. He never even said how much he was going to lower the price, anyway. Fucking weasel.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Eiki-mun on October 09, 2015, 08:30:13 pm
So can someone finally put a bullet between his eyes already? Please, if anyone deserves it, it's this guy. I mean, don't get me wrong, murder is bad, but this guy's committing murder himself by making life-saving drugs unaffordable, so I'd say it's justified here. Hell, if I lived in New York, I'd do it myself.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Damen on October 09, 2015, 09:11:44 pm
No, murder is bad.

(http://img.pandawhale.com/93112-Terminator-WHY-gif-Arnold-Schw-no45.gif)
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Askold on October 10, 2015, 02:11:44 am
I think Matt Bors is becoming my favourite political cartoonist. At least in the sub-category "Still alive and making comics."

(https://scontent-ams2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xla1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/12096172_628031107336606_2449782916995437169_n.png?oh=f8a9f07c337c6a5ceb206fec0dba0f8d&oe=56CAB39D)
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Barbarella on October 12, 2015, 12:41:13 am
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aEzXegK_460s.jpg)

here ya go, guize. hopes ya likez it.

AWESOME!

That said. A game with punching would be even more awesome.


I think Matt Bors is becoming my favourite political cartoonist. At least in the sub-category "Still alive and making comics."

(https://scontent-ams2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xla1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/12096172_628031107336606_2449782916995437169_n.png?oh=f8a9f07c337c6a5ceb206fec0dba0f8d&oe=56CAB39D)

Does Douchebro get that the jokes on him?
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Askold on October 12, 2015, 02:24:22 am
Does Douchebro get that the jokes on him?

Considering how things escalated from that, no.

(https://scontent-ams2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/12106730_628553273951056_4558211366441508977_n.png?oh=6063d0169b3b0c8fa11c72c995cb47ee&oe=568B2052)

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Update on the exchange with Martin Shkreli. After he raised the price of my original to $50k, he didn't follow through on donating the money. (He has a thing for raising prices, it seems.) Then a random twitter account jumped in and sent me ten grand through Paypal in order to debate him. It's in my account and as soon as it can't be reclaimed through a dispute I'll donate it to toxoplasmosis research.

The bolded part made me do a sensible chuckle.

Anyway, it looks like "someone who definitely isn't Shrekli using a fake identity in a weird attempt to make the artist look bad" IS going to give $10k to charity so this funny comic is going to help cancer research more than Mr. Shrekli has done.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: niam2023 on October 12, 2015, 03:14:59 am
...oh, boy...

http://thehardtimes.net/2015/09/23/high-school-bully-hated-emo-turd-martin-shkreli-before-it-was-cool/

He was that kid. The one that sat in the back of the classroom playing Crawling on his acoustic guitar trying to woo someone.

I'm not normally one to condone high school bullying, but when its Martin "Death Is Profitable" Shkreli, I'm gonna say I wish that high school bully smashed the guitar too.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: davedan on October 12, 2015, 03:44:42 am
...oh, boy...

http://thehardtimes.net/2015/09/23/high-school-bully-hated-emo-turd-martin-shkreli-before-it-was-cool/

He was that kid. The one that sat in the back of the classroom playing Crawling on his acoustic guitar trying to woo someone.

I'm not normally one to condone high school bullying, but when its Martin "Death Is Profitable" Shkreli, I'm gonna say I wish that high school bully smashed the guitar too.

You realise that was a satire don't you?
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: niam2023 on October 12, 2015, 03:51:18 am
My perception has been down today.

...this and my namemixgate really do not show me very well.

I'll delete the post.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewherper/2015/09/24/my-lunch-with-shkreli-what-we-should-learn-from-pharmas-latest-monster/

Far more relevant look at Shkreli. Even the interviewer could tell just from a single lunch with him that he's callow and sociopathic. Even I do a better job concealing my...nature, than that.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: guizonde on October 12, 2015, 08:24:24 am
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aXXRmQb_460s_v1.jpg)
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: niam2023 on October 12, 2015, 08:41:06 am
You just know Shkreli would be one of the patrons of that hotel in Eli Roth's Hostel...
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: R. U. Sirius on October 12, 2015, 09:49:02 am
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aXXRmQb_460s_v1.jpg)

Who's the one in the cowboy hat?
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 12, 2015, 10:27:05 am
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aXXRmQb_460s_v1.jpg)

Who's the one in the cowboy hat?

The Creeper.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: nickiknack on October 13, 2015, 12:24:14 am
Not sure how legit this is but if it is, but it seems Pharma Douche has decided to pick a fight with a Presidential candidate (http://www.attn.com/stories/3604/bernie-sanders-martin-shkreli-debate?utm_source=bravenewfilms&_medium=fbpost&utm_campaign=influencer) .
I'll just be over here with the popcorn and booze.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: I am lizard on October 13, 2015, 01:30:39 am
Not sure how legit this is but if it is, but it seems Pharma Douche has decided to pick a fight with a Presidential candidate (http://www.attn.com/stories/3604/bernie-sanders-martin-shkreli-debate?utm_source=bravenewfilms&_medium=fbpost&utm_campaign=influencer) .
I'll just be over here with the popcorn and booze.
He'd get destroyed by Bernie, then throw a temper tantrum on Twitter.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: niam2023 on October 13, 2015, 02:46:44 am
If he even shows. Weasels like pharma bro are well known to lack balls. He'll call it off and crytype on Twitter about how unfair Bernie is being to Capitalists.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 13, 2015, 06:15:43 am
If he even shows. Weasels like pharma bro are well known to lack balls. He'll call it off and crytype on Twitter about how unfair Bernie is being to Capitalists.

Don't call him a weasel, that's grossly offensive to weasels.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Barbarella on October 13, 2015, 02:22:25 pm
If he even shows. Weasels like pharma bro are well known to lack balls. He'll call it off and crytype on Twitter about how unfair Bernie is being to Capitalists.

Don't call him a weasel, that's grossly offensive to weasels.

....and weasels are cute, too!
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f226/SpukiKitty/Widdle%20Fuzzie%20Wuzzies/Wild%20Critters/9edfbedb-bc97-45bf-a6d6-be312e8b7fc0_zpsdsej5uri.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/SpukiKitty/media/Widdle%20Fuzzie%20Wuzzies/Wild%20Critters/9edfbedb-bc97-45bf-a6d6-be312e8b7fc0_zpsdsej5uri.jpg.html)
...."Weasel" & "ferret" are weird choices for insults. If I wanted to insult somebody, I'd pick something gross like a worm or roadkill. Fuzzy wuzzy mustelids are ADORABLE.....even stinky skunks!
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: nickiknack on October 13, 2015, 02:30:29 pm
That's an insult to worms and roadkill. As it stands Pharma Douche is now the lowest one can go.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: The_Queen on October 13, 2015, 02:43:24 pm
Not sure how legit this is but if it is, but it seems Pharma Douche has decided to pick a fight with a Presidential candidate (http://www.attn.com/stories/3604/bernie-sanders-martin-shkreli-debate?utm_source=bravenewfilms&_medium=fbpost&utm_campaign=influencer) .
I'll just be over here with the popcorn and booze.

It's perfectly legal, I just don't see a point in it. Formal debates have the downside of giving idiots a platform to spew their idiocy (see, just about everyone who debated the existence of God with a big name atheist), substituting good public speaking for intellectual reasoning. Second, politicians should not even justify this guy by giving him the time or energy, let alone standing beside him on a stage: a formal debate creates the tacit appearance that there are two equally justifiable points of view to most lay-observers. And third, debating Shkreli is a poor substitute for passing legislation that would make this kind of behavior illegal, or regulating the prices that can be charged.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: nickiknack on October 13, 2015, 02:58:11 pm
I didn't mean it like that, I meant it more like if the story is real, I have an extremely hard time nowadays telling if the story is real as opposed to being satire.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: The_Queen on October 13, 2015, 03:11:15 pm
I didn't mean it like that, I meant it more like if the story is real, I have an extremely hard time nowadays telling if the story is real as opposed to being satire.

Oh, no. Without looking into it further, I believe this is real. I saw something earlier about Sanders and him butting heads, and him calling Sanders out for a debate. Like I said, I think the best route, for both Sanders as a candidate and the nation as a whole, is to ignore Shkreli's call for a debate. Congress should pass some kind of legislation to ensure that this does not happen again, and reduce the cost of the drug. But, to engage him in debate just gives him a platform to spew his stupidity to the ignorant.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Sleepy on October 13, 2015, 03:16:02 pm
That's essentially the same reason I was disappointed with the Bill Nye versus Ken Ham debate. Its existence implied that Ham had valid points to be made and that the bible could serve as evidence against scientific models, which is absolutely wrong.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: nickiknack on October 13, 2015, 03:18:59 pm
I agree, as much as I would love to see Bernie curb stomp his butt in a debate, Pharma Douche is just an attention whore, and probably wants a reason to act like even more of an asshole.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: ironbite on October 13, 2015, 07:18:59 pm
Actually wasn't Bernie one of the first to encourage an investigation of this idiot?

Ironbite-an investigation that could pretty much tank him?
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Barbarella on October 13, 2015, 09:12:58 pm
I'd watch that "debate". Bernie would BERN that little dweeb!
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: nickiknack on October 13, 2015, 11:55:12 pm
Actually wasn't Bernie one of the first to encourage an investigation of this idiot?

Ironbite-an investigation that could pretty much tank him?

Yeah, Bernie and Rep. Cummings(D-MD) sent him a letter the day the story broke basically saying "Guess What?? We're investigating your sorry ass."
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: nickiknack on October 15, 2015, 06:42:34 pm
And the Pharma Douche saga continues. Seems the douche donated the max amount possible to Bernie just be an ass, and Bernie rejected the said money.
http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2015/10/15/bernie-sanders-rejects-ceo-martin-shkreli-campaign-donation/FcSKxu1VIr7pubg9cI3CQN/story.html (http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2015/10/15/bernie-sanders-rejects-ceo-martin-shkreli-campaign-donation/FcSKxu1VIr7pubg9cI3CQN/story.html)
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: niam2023 on October 15, 2015, 07:14:41 pm
I wrote a story in my creative writing class today...

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: mellenORL on October 15, 2015, 07:16:21 pm
And the Pharma Douche saga continues. Seems the douche donated the max amount possible to Bernie just be an ass, and Bernie rejected the said money.
http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2015/10/15/bernie-sanders-rejects-ceo-martin-shkreli-campaign-donation/FcSKxu1VIr7pubg9cI3CQN/story.html (http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2015/10/15/bernie-sanders-rejects-ceo-martin-shkreli-campaign-donation/FcSKxu1VIr7pubg9cI3CQN/story.html)

Holy shit. When I finished that article you linked to at the Boston Globe, I found this about Shkreli in a side bar link. He's just the most evil fucking weasel ever. Ice cold greed has been his modus operandi for years.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2015/09/25/how-martin-shkreli-biotech-pariah-put-cancer-patients-risk/fxjUV8alj28LESmmOF7IbO/story.html?p1=Article_Related_Box_Article (http://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2015/09/25/how-martin-shkreli-biotech-pariah-put-cancer-patients-risk/fxjUV8alj28LESmmOF7IbO/story.html?p1=Article_Related_Box_Article)

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Shkreli also has a track record of betting against pharmaceutical stocks — a practice known as short selling. And in at least two cases he pressed federal regulators to reject the companies’ product at the same time he was betting the stocks would go down.

And they were good, useful drugs and a good diagnostic tool that he was fucking with!
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 15, 2015, 07:19:15 pm
I wrote a story in my creative writing class today...

(click to show/hide)

...I wouldn't be surprised if somebody, somewhere, has that exact fetish.  But somehow, I doubt Martin would derive much pleasure from it.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: nickiknack on October 18, 2015, 03:24:00 pm
Now the Pharma Douche is whining about how his campaign donation was spent on a charity rather than going back into his pocket, and gets his ass handed to him on twitter. This can't get anymore funny at this point.
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/pharma-bro-martin-shkreli-whines-about-bernie-giving-his-money-to-charity-and-twitter-tears-him-a-new-one/#.ViPwP9DXQLA.facebook (http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/pharma-bro-martin-shkreli-whines-about-bernie-giving-his-money-to-charity-and-twitter-tears-him-a-new-one/#.ViPwP9DXQLA.facebook)

Also his entire Twitter page is him having a tantrum over it, quite a sight.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Art Vandelay on October 18, 2015, 03:41:43 pm
And the Pharma Douche saga continues. Seems the douche donated the max amount possible to Bernie just be an ass, and Bernie rejected the said money.
http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2015/10/15/bernie-sanders-rejects-ceo-martin-shkreli-campaign-donation/FcSKxu1VIr7pubg9cI3CQN/story.html (http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2015/10/15/bernie-sanders-rejects-ceo-martin-shkreli-campaign-donation/FcSKxu1VIr7pubg9cI3CQN/story.html)

Holy shit. When I finished that article you linked to at the Boston Globe, I found this about Shkreli in a side bar link. He's just the most evil fucking weasel ever. Ice cold greed has been his modus operandi for years.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2015/09/25/how-martin-shkreli-biotech-pariah-put-cancer-patients-risk/fxjUV8alj28LESmmOF7IbO/story.html?p1=Article_Related_Box_Article (http://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2015/09/25/how-martin-shkreli-biotech-pariah-put-cancer-patients-risk/fxjUV8alj28LESmmOF7IbO/story.html?p1=Article_Related_Box_Article)

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Shkreli also has a track record of betting against pharmaceutical stocks — a practice known as short selling. And in at least two cases he pressed federal regulators to reject the companies’ product at the same time he was betting the stocks would go down.

And they were good, useful drugs and a good diagnostic tool that he was fucking with!
And this is exactly why I think all of this public outrage should be directed at the system that allows this sort of thing rather than Shkreli himself. No fucking way is Shkreli the only one fucking with potentially life saving meds just to make a quick buck.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Barbarella on October 18, 2015, 04:19:01 pm
Now the Pharma Douche is whining about how his campaign donation was spent on a charity rather than going back into his pocket, and gets his ass handed to him on twitter. This can't get anymore funny at this point.
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/pharma-bro-martin-shkreli-whines-about-bernie-giving-his-money-to-charity-and-twitter-tears-him-a-new-one/#.ViPwP9DXQLA.facebook (http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/pharma-bro-martin-shkreli-whines-about-bernie-giving-his-money-to-charity-and-twitter-tears-him-a-new-one/#.ViPwP9DXQLA.facebook)

Also his entire Twitter page is him having a tantrum over it, quite a sight.

Is this idiot even aware of how he looks to people? Is he bent on self-sabotage?
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: ironbite on October 18, 2015, 05:47:09 pm
And the Pharma Douche saga continues. Seems the douche donated the max amount possible to Bernie just be an ass, and Bernie rejected the said money.
http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2015/10/15/bernie-sanders-rejects-ceo-martin-shkreli-campaign-donation/FcSKxu1VIr7pubg9cI3CQN/story.html (http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2015/10/15/bernie-sanders-rejects-ceo-martin-shkreli-campaign-donation/FcSKxu1VIr7pubg9cI3CQN/story.html)

Holy shit. When I finished that article you linked to at the Boston Globe, I found this about Shkreli in a side bar link. He's just the most evil fucking weasel ever. Ice cold greed has been his modus operandi for years.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2015/09/25/how-martin-shkreli-biotech-pariah-put-cancer-patients-risk/fxjUV8alj28LESmmOF7IbO/story.html?p1=Article_Related_Box_Article (http://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2015/09/25/how-martin-shkreli-biotech-pariah-put-cancer-patients-risk/fxjUV8alj28LESmmOF7IbO/story.html?p1=Article_Related_Box_Article)

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Shkreli also has a track record of betting against pharmaceutical stocks — a practice known as short selling. And in at least two cases he pressed federal regulators to reject the companies’ product at the same time he was betting the stocks would go down.

And they were good, useful drugs and a good diagnostic tool that he was fucking with!
And this is exactly why I think all of this public outrage should be directed at the system that allows this sort of thing rather than Shkreli himself. No fucking way is Shkreli the only one fucking with potentially life saving meds just to make a quick buck.

Oh he's not the only one.  But he's the only one who got super greedy and decided to jack it up to the point the SEC gets involved.  It's fine and dandy to raise the price of meds by like $10 or $20 every so often.  It's when you jack it up that much is when everyone looks at you blackly.

Ironbite-a profit is fine but dude was looking for super profit and got caught red handed.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: RavynousHunter on October 18, 2015, 06:14:44 pm
'Sides, punishing him sets a precedent and sends out a message.  We lose nothing by sending this fucker to the poorhouse.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: nickiknack on October 19, 2015, 07:00:25 pm
PharmaDouche is the biggest Drama Queen ever (http://cheezburger.com/8576637440/loser-of-the-day-martin-shkreli-fakes-fractured-wrist-after-bernie-sanders-refuses-donation)
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: niam2023 on October 20, 2015, 05:10:18 am
Of course he wouldn't actually punch a wall. If he even works out, he probably has a private little gym with ten pound weights all over the place, so he doesn't need to associate with, gasp, the common man.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: ironbite on October 22, 2015, 09:10:02 pm
Pharma Douche is mad.  How mad?  This mad. (http://www.occupydemocrats.com/price-gouging-pharma-ceo-fuming-as-rival-creates-1-alternative-aids-drug/)

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As is well-known by now, one of the side effects of Daraprim, a medication needed by many AIDS and cancer patients, is uncontrollable rage — not because of any chemical properties of the drug itself, but because Martin Shkreli’s Turing Pharmaceuticals raised the price by more than 5,000 percent immediately after purchasing the rights to the medication. Until Shkreli’s greed caused the price to very quickly inflate, the lifesaving pill, which has been on the market longer than Shkreli has been alive, sold for just $13.50 per pill.

Shkreli provided numerous excuses for the price increase, the unfairness of which made headlines for weeks after the rather transparent attempt to effectively hold patients at gunpoint and rob them blind. While “Pharma Bro” ultimately promised to lower prices to an undefined amount at an unspecified point in time — something that has still not happened — another company has taken it upon themselves to completely embarrass the former hedge funder, who described the price increase as necessary.

San Diego-based Imprimis Pharmaceuticals, Inc announced on Thursday that it will be providing an alternative to Daraprim that costs a fraction of the pill’s pre-Shkreli price. The drug will be sold at as low as $99 for a 100-pill supply. Yes, that’s just about a dollar per pill.

And the system works.

Ironbite-go punch a wall for real Pharma Bro.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: guizonde on October 22, 2015, 09:26:41 pm
Pharma Douche is mad.  How mad?  This mad. (http://www.occupydemocrats.com/price-gouging-pharma-ceo-fuming-as-rival-creates-1-alternative-aids-drug/)

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As is well-known by now, one of the side effects of Daraprim, a medication needed by many AIDS and cancer patients, is uncontrollable rage — not because of any chemical properties of the drug itself, but because Martin Shkreli’s Turing Pharmaceuticals raised the price by more than 5,000 percent immediately after purchasing the rights to the medication. Until Shkreli’s greed caused the price to very quickly inflate, the lifesaving pill, which has been on the market longer than Shkreli has been alive, sold for just $13.50 per pill.

Shkreli provided numerous excuses for the price increase, the unfairness of which made headlines for weeks after the rather transparent attempt to effectively hold patients at gunpoint and rob them blind. While “Pharma Bro” ultimately promised to lower prices to an undefined amount at an unspecified point in time — something that has still not happened — another company has taken it upon themselves to completely embarrass the former hedge funder, who described the price increase as necessary.

San Diego-based Imprimis Pharmaceuticals, Inc announced on Thursday that it will be providing an alternative to Daraprim that costs a fraction of the pill’s pre-Shkreli price. The drug will be sold at as low as $99 for a 100-pill supply. Yes, that’s just about a dollar per pill.

And the system works.

Ironbite-go punch a wall for real Pharma Bro.

good. it's a shame it took a scumbag to ultimately release a pill to lower the price of the original, but hey. props where they're due, that's a great "fuck you" to pharma douche, great news to sufferers, and a step in the right direction. now if only there were failsafes to prevent the original douchebaggery from happening in the first place, patients would really rejoice.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: I am lizard on October 22, 2015, 10:47:08 pm
The issue is now we need to fix the system so this can't happen again.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: nickiknack on October 22, 2015, 10:58:36 pm
Nothing is more refreshing than PharmaDouche tears.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Barbarella on October 23, 2015, 04:34:57 am
Pharma Douche is mad.  How mad?  This mad. (http://www.occupydemocrats.com/price-gouging-pharma-ceo-fuming-as-rival-creates-1-alternative-aids-drug/)

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As is well-known by now, one of the side effects of Daraprim, a medication needed by many AIDS and cancer patients, is uncontrollable rage — not because of any chemical properties of the drug itself, but because Martin Shkreli’s Turing Pharmaceuticals raised the price by more than 5,000 percent immediately after purchasing the rights to the medication. Until Shkreli’s greed caused the price to very quickly inflate, the lifesaving pill, which has been on the market longer than Shkreli has been alive, sold for just $13.50 per pill.

Shkreli provided numerous excuses for the price increase, the unfairness of which made headlines for weeks after the rather transparent attempt to effectively hold patients at gunpoint and rob them blind. While “Pharma Bro” ultimately promised to lower prices to an undefined amount at an unspecified point in time — something that has still not happened — another company has taken it upon themselves to completely embarrass the former hedge funder, who described the price increase as necessary.

San Diego-based Imprimis Pharmaceuticals, Inc announced on Thursday that it will be providing an alternative to Daraprim that costs a fraction of the pill’s pre-Shkreli price. The drug will be sold at as low as $99 for a 100-pill supply. Yes, that’s just about a dollar per pill.

And the system works.

Ironbite-go punch a wall for real Pharma Bro.


YEAH, BABY!
IN....YO....FACE....PHARMA....DOUCHE!!!!
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Damen on October 23, 2015, 01:41:28 pm
Pharma Douche is mad.  How mad?  This mad. (http://www.occupydemocrats.com/price-gouging-pharma-ceo-fuming-as-rival-creates-1-alternative-aids-drug/)

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As is well-known by now, one of the side effects of Daraprim, a medication needed by many AIDS and cancer patients, is uncontrollable rage — not because of any chemical properties of the drug itself, but because Martin Shkreli’s Turing Pharmaceuticals raised the price by more than 5,000 percent immediately after purchasing the rights to the medication. Until Shkreli’s greed caused the price to very quickly inflate, the lifesaving pill, which has been on the market longer than Shkreli has been alive, sold for just $13.50 per pill.

Shkreli provided numerous excuses for the price increase, the unfairness of which made headlines for weeks after the rather transparent attempt to effectively hold patients at gunpoint and rob them blind. While “Pharma Bro” ultimately promised to lower prices to an undefined amount at an unspecified point in time — something that has still not happened — another company has taken it upon themselves to completely embarrass the former hedge funder, who described the price increase as necessary.

San Diego-based Imprimis Pharmaceuticals, Inc announced on Thursday that it will be providing an alternative to Daraprim that costs a fraction of the pill’s pre-Shkreli price. The drug will be sold at as low as $99 for a 100-pill supply. Yes, that’s just about a dollar per pill.

And the system works.

Ironbite-go punch a wall for real Pharma Bro.

(http://cdn.meme.am/instances/58780900.jpg)
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Cerim Treascair on October 23, 2015, 02:45:37 pm
As a note, Imprimis Pharmaceuticals also has said openly that they're planning on similarly-priced generics of nearly every other medically-needed pill the FDA has approved within the next three years.  That's 7,500 medications or so.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: guizonde on October 23, 2015, 03:17:50 pm
As a note, Imprimis Pharmaceuticals also has said openly that they're planning on similarly-priced generics of nearly every other medically-needed pill the FDA has approved within the next three years.  That's 7,500 medications or so.

that's... really smart. they're sweeping the competition under the rug while simultaneously striving for the greater good. i dunno who their pr department is, but they're about to get a raise (and boners. but mostly a raise and boners)
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: nickiknack on October 23, 2015, 05:56:19 pm
I've seen some LOLibertarians calling this a triumph of the free market, and then they go onto bs and say that government have never lowered the price of drugs, ignoring the laws in place that allow for negotiation that done is other countries due to having socialized healthcare. Aren't LOLibertartians cute, and clueless??
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Barbarella on October 23, 2015, 09:42:02 pm
As a note, Imprimis Pharmaceuticals also has said openly that they're planning on similarly-priced generics of nearly every other medically-needed pill the FDA has approved within the next three years.  That's 7,500 medications or so.

I'm going to give the CEO of Imprimis Pharmaceuticals a HUGE HUG!

Frankly, EVERY med should have a generic version. I take Fluoxetine, the generic version of Prozac. Only a couple of bucks, baby!

My Mom, however, has some important meds that she NEEDS and there's no generic. She has to pay over 35-40 dollars for a refill. I hope one of the generic meds Imprimis introduces is a generic form of THAT. My Mom would be so happy!
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: guizonde on October 23, 2015, 10:08:39 pm
As a note, Imprimis Pharmaceuticals also has said openly that they're planning on similarly-priced generics of nearly every other medically-needed pill the FDA has approved within the next three years.  That's 7,500 medications or so.

I'm going to give the CEO of Imprimis Pharmaceuticals a HUGE HUG!

Frankly, EVERY med should have a generic version. I take Fluoxetine, the generic version of Prozac. Only a couple of bucks, baby!

My Mom, however, has some important meds that she NEEDS and there's no generic. She has to pay over 35-40 dollars for a refill. I hope one of the generic meds Imprimis introduces is a generic form of THAT. My Mom would be so happy!

there's been a huge pr campaign in france for the past ten years or so to try and get people to grab the generics rather than the brands to try and stem the social security deficit. last week when i went to the pharmacy, the pharmacist actually apologized for giving me risperdal (instead of the generic risperidone). still cost me nothing, because they said that their missing stock was their fault, so they covered the cost themselves rather than make me pay for their error. good guys, those pharmacists.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: dpareja on October 23, 2015, 10:48:42 pm
One thing about generics is that (at least up here) quality control can be lower than on the brand-name drugs. There's one drug I take that does have generics, and I do fine with them, but I've at least read reports of people who need the brand-name version.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Sigmaleph on October 24, 2015, 04:41:13 pm
Frankly, EVERY med should have a generic version. I take Fluoxetine, the generic version of Prozac. Only a couple of bucks, baby!

You need patents to expire to have generics. And getting rid of patents has the problem that new drug research is expensive as fuck and companies won't do it if they can't get some economic benefit out of being the first to discover a drug.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Kat S. on October 29, 2015, 05:13:55 pm
He just did another AMA on Reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/3q38qg/iama_martin_shkreli_ceo_of_turing_pharmaceuticals).  It went as expected.  One of the other poignant parts of the AMA besides the doctor breaking it down Barney-style to Shkreli as to why a 5000% price inflation of a drug is a bad thing for everybody was when someone called him a "Fu** boy".  Shkreli replied, "No U", but I can't help to think that got under his skin a little.

But to Shkreli, it's all fun and games.  He's a millionaire, he is in charge of a small company, and probably most important to him, he's famous.  Even if it's infamy and notoriety, he's famous, and that makes him, in his mind, super successful.

Worse, he also thinks of himself as a successful IRL troll.  He gets a kick from irritating people not realizing that if he doesn't wise up from his antics, he's going to become a modern day parable as to why trolling IRL is a stupid idea.

Shkreli seems to have trouble in social interaction in general.  Whether it's from a misdiagnosed/undiagnosed problem, him just being a painfully socially awkward and inept person, or him relishing in being an A-hole because he has a terrible personality, at the end of the day I can't imagine him having proud parents/guardians that he talks to.

At the rate he's going, Shkreli is going to die alone because I can't imagine some good woman in her right mind dating this guy.  If he does manage to snag someone, I can't imagine things ending well for him or his date.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: RavynousHunter on October 29, 2015, 09:27:58 pm
He'd probably promise her that he'd foot the bill for dinner and a movie, only to go around and charge her "maintenance fees" equal to six times the cost of the original date, gas included.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Kat S. on October 29, 2015, 10:29:13 pm
He'd probably promise her that he'd foot the bill for dinner and a movie, only to go around and charge her "maintenance fees" equal to six times the cost of the original date, gas included.

I don't think it would even get that far if his date happens to be a good woman.  Because of his notoriety, when one lady by the name of Eve Peyser was matched on Tinder to him and proceeded to talk to him (http://cheezburger.com/8572140288/hook-up-of-the-day-girl-matches-with-that-dude-who-upped-the-price-on-the-life-saving-aids-drug-by), the conversation came off as well as you would expect.  I don't think Shkreli knows how to talk to people, and with the money he has, he probably thinks he doesn't have to.

In some ways he reminds me of the Lolcow Chris-chan.  He keeps insisting that his version of things is the "real truth" of the situation on hand, and he's really just a misunderstood person and not the abhorrent person people think he is.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: guizonde on October 29, 2015, 10:35:10 pm
He'd probably promise her that he'd foot the bill for dinner and a movie, only to go around and charge her "maintenance fees" equal to six times the cost of the original date, gas included.

I don't think it would even get that far if his date happens to be a good woman.  Because of his notoriety, when one lady by the name of Eve Peyser was matched on Tinder to him and proceeded to talk to him (http://cheezburger.com/8572140288/hook-up-of-the-day-girl-matches-with-that-dude-who-upped-the-price-on-the-life-saving-aids-drug-by), the conversation came off as well as you would expect.  I don't think Shkreli knows how to talk to people, and with the money he has, he probably thinks he doesn't have to.

In some ways he reminds me of the Lolcow Chris-chan.  He keeps insisting that his version of things is the "real truth" of the situation on hand, and he's really just a misunderstood person and not the abhorrent person people think he is.

it's not my fault everybody thinks i'm a bastard, it's theirs for not understanding me!
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: niam2023 on October 29, 2015, 11:52:36 pm
I've been talking to Shkreli on Twitter.

...its almost fun to take delight in the sheer misfortune he's managed to bring upon himself and then confront him with it all.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: guizonde on October 29, 2015, 11:57:47 pm
I've been talking to Shkreli on Twitter.

...its almost fun to take delight in the sheer misfortune he's managed to bring upon himself and then confront him with it all.

niam, you sociopath...

(sorry, i had to)
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Cerim Treascair on October 30, 2015, 12:31:31 am
I'm interested in this out of sheer trainwreck syndrome now...
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: dpareja on November 26, 2015, 02:49:43 am
Sorry about the necro...

http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/turing-drug-price-1.3337195

Hey, remember when he said he'd cut the price?

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After weeks of criticism from patients, doctors and even other drugmakers for hiking a life-saving medicine's price more than fifty-fold, Turing Pharmaceuticals is reneging on its pledge to cut the $750-per-pill price.

Instead, the small biotech company says it's reducing the price for hospitals by up to 50 per cent for its Daraprim, which treats a rare parasitic infection that mainly strikes pregnant women and HIV patients.

Yeah. At least Imprimis (http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/daraprim-imprimis-turing-drug-price-1.3285365) is apparently keeping its pledge to produce the drug for cheap.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Askold on November 26, 2015, 03:25:10 am
I remember reading an article about Mr. Douchebag's company stock suffering but as I tried to find it I instead stumbled upon this:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-25/shkreli-says-price-increases-for-turing-drug-matter-little

Turns out that not only does he refuse to drop his prizes he has also bought another company and plans to do the same with a few other drugs... His defense is that this will only harm a few people and government has all kind of safety regulations to prevent everyone from doing the same with all the drugs but the way healthcare system is built in USA it is possible to find some drugs that can have their prizes raised massively and you can still get away with it...

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Shkreli is also the new chief executive officer of KaloBios Pharmaceuticals Inc., after leading an investor group that bought a majority of the near-bankrupt biotechnology company. The shares were trading at less than $1 until last week, when the company disclosed Nov. 18 that Shkreli’s group had bought the stake. The stock was trading at $26.63 at the close in New York.

The move is not an attempt to reverse-merge Turing into a public company, Shkreli has said. Instead, he’s in talks to acquire three separate drugs, one of which is already approved by U.S. regulators, that could fit into the KaloBios’s portfolio, he said Wednesday. He also plans to develop KaloBios’s lenzilumab for a rare form of leukemia with no effective treatment approved by the Food and Drug Administration.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: ironbite on November 26, 2015, 11:33:41 am
Wonder how that SEC investigation is going for him.

Ironbite-probably not good.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: mellenORL on November 26, 2015, 01:32:31 pm
Dude is literally a bridge troll.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: I am lizard on November 26, 2015, 08:10:48 pm
Can someone shoot him? Preferably before he can do more harm.

Edit: legally of course as do not support such actions, although hypothetically if he did die I wouldn't be shedding any tears.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Sigmaleph on November 26, 2015, 08:15:35 pm
The problem is not Shkreli per se, it's the system that allows the shit he does to be profitable. If he doesn't do it, someone else will.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: niam2023 on November 26, 2015, 08:16:28 pm
Can someone shoot him? Preferably before he can do more harm.

With the amount of raw hatred he's been garnering, its only a matter of time before someone tries it.

I'm pulling for the gunman.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: I am lizard on November 26, 2015, 08:26:35 pm
Can someone shoot him? Preferably before he can do more harm.

With the amount of raw hatred he's been garnering, its only a matter of time before someone tries it.

I'm pulling for the gunman.
It's not even a matter of hate, the guy is legit putting live in danger with his shit.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Askold on November 27, 2015, 03:05:02 am
The problem is not Shkreli per se, it's the system that allows the shit he does to be profitable. If he doesn't do it, someone else will.
He is using the same argument but if you notice that no one had done it before him (at least to the same extent) the argument isn't as strong as he wants us to believe.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Art Vandelay on November 27, 2015, 06:22:18 am
Dude is literally a bridge troll.
Really? With all the money he's gouging from sick people, you'd think he could afford an apartment.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Sigmaleph on November 27, 2015, 10:43:36 am
The problem is not Shkreli per se, it's the system that allows the shit he does to be profitable. If he doesn't do it, someone else will.
He is using the same argument but if you notice that no one had done it before him (at least to the same extent) the argument isn't as strong as he wants us to believe.

What exactly is the alternative, though? As far as I can tell, there are two possibilities:

1) There is a structural problem in the way drug regulation/pricing/etc. works which lets people charge absurd amounts for stuff that can be made cheaply and still make a profit, and people who are greedy enough and have the resources will abuse this structural problem. There are a number of people among pharmaceutical company CEOs that are in fact greedy and resourceful, and so pharmaceutical price gouging happens and will continue to happen until the structural problem is solved.

or,

2) There is some inherent property of Shkreli that means he is the only person who can or will do this, and if we get rid of Shkreli the problem will be solved.

and I just can't buy 2 as an explanation.

Shkreli's case was notable, but it wasn't isolated. Maybe most price-gougers limit themselves to a reasonable 500% increase (http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/1ed232c0-6d2c-11e5-8171-ba1968cf791a.html) rather than 5,000% like the case of daraprim, but I somehow doubt it's because they develop a conscience and say "well, we will abuse the shit out of the system, but not too much, we don't want to be evil about it". They raise prices as much as they think they can get away with, it just so happens Shkreli for some reason or another thought he could get away with more.

I don't mean this as a defence of Shkreli, obviously. He is impressively evil, he's just not uniquely evil, and getting rid of him would not solve the actual problem.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Canadian Mojo on November 27, 2015, 03:29:44 pm
I don't mean this as a defence of Shkreli, obviously. He is impressively evil, he's just not uniquely evil, and getting rid of him would not solve the actual problem.

Kill one and the rest will fall in line?


Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: niam2023 on November 27, 2015, 03:37:57 pm
Martin Shkreli obviously thinks he is untouchable, that nobody can regulate, impede or otherwise hurt him.

Someone needs to whisper in his ear one way or another "Memento Mori".
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Sigmaleph on November 27, 2015, 05:24:42 pm
I don't mean this as a defence of Shkreli, obviously. He is impressively evil, he's just not uniquely evil, and getting rid of him would not solve the actual problem.

Kill one and the rest will fall in line?


Yes, it's a well-known fact that killing people in the name of a political cause only ever scares the enemy into surrendering, and never leads to increased radicalization or the victim being used as a rallying symbol.

I don't think anyone here actually wants to kill Shkreli and am treating this is as a tongue-in-cheek hypothetical. I have further reasons not to kill him if you need convincing
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: guizonde on November 27, 2015, 05:38:18 pm
I don't mean this as a defence of Shkreli, obviously. He is impressively evil, he's just not uniquely evil, and getting rid of him would not solve the actual problem.

Kill one and the rest will fall in line?


Yes, it's a well-known fact that killing people in the name of a political cause only ever scares the enemy into surrendering, and never leads to increased radicalization or the victim being used as a rallying symbol.

I don't think anyone here actually wants to kill Shkreli and am treating this is as a tongue-in-cheek hypothetical. I have further reasons not to kill him if you need convincing

ooh ooh ooh! can we blame him and give him a super duper huge fine like the scapegoat he is? like that time jerome kerviel got fined five billion euros for insider knowledge leading to france's banks collapsing on themselves? that always works, doesn't it?

(that was half tongue in cheek, half strict truth. that really happened)
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: niam2023 on November 27, 2015, 06:51:05 pm
How about he be slapped with 5.5 billion dollars in debt. I doubt he can pay that off, and it'll get rid of him financially forever.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: guizonde on November 27, 2015, 08:30:12 pm
How about he be slapped with 5.5 billion dollars in debt. I doubt he can pay that off, and it'll get rid of him financially forever.

the worst part about this economic system is that this is not even a certainty.

i looked it up, kerviel had to pay 4.9 billion € (and pocket change) in fines, so about 7 billion usd. i checked up on him, and he's got an english wiki page. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%A9r%C3%B4me_Kerviel)

he got out of jail, his fine was overturned by the french supreme court, and he's been hired as a consultant in "an information systems and computer security consulting firm". i'd call karma houdini, but frankly i'd rather have him go daesh-style suicide bombing on the banking fatcats, so that he be useful once in his life, and have the banks entertain us for once.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Sigmaleph on November 27, 2015, 11:25:36 pm
Promote drug regulation laws that allow them to make money? I dunno. I was not exactly serious with that comment.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: mellenORL on December 17, 2015, 09:43:45 am
Rise for good news, old thread! Pharma Douche has been arrested!

http://www.bloomberg.com/features/2015-martin-shkreli-securities-fraud/

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Complex financial maneuvers were used to conceal the payments, Retrophin said. For example, the company accused its former CEO of fraudulently reclassifying a $900,000 equity investment that MSMB made in Retrophin as a loan. He then allegedly had Retrophin pay off that loan to settle another unrelated legal dispute.

The Securities and Exchange Commission, which according to court documents opened an investigation into Shkreli in 2012, is expected to file a parallel civil complaint against him, according to people familiar with the matter.

And, as usual, Shkreli spouts off with a blood-thirsty, defiant weasel squeal -

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“The $65 million Retrophin wants from me would not dent me. I feel great. I’m licking my chops over the suits I’m going to file against them”



Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: RavynousHunter on December 17, 2015, 10:05:21 am
Okay, can we just hang him, already?  I get that we have a big problem when people are allowed to get away with this, but fucking seriously, just god damned hang him, if only to get rid of that shiteating grin he always wears.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: TheContrarian on December 17, 2015, 10:59:44 am
Okay, can we just hang him, already?  I get that we have a big problem when people are allowed to get away with this, but fucking seriously, just god damned hang him, if only to get rid of that shiteating grin he always wears.

Capital punishment doesn't work.  It's not a deterrent and it's even more expensive than alternative forms of punishment.

We should sentence him to some compassionate counselling, maybe some state-funded backrubs.  Help him get to the root of the personal issues that led him down this dark road.

Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: guizonde on December 17, 2015, 11:12:23 am
Okay, can we just hang him, already?  I get that we have a big problem when people are allowed to get away with this, but fucking seriously, just god damned hang him, if only to get rid of that shiteating grin he always wears.

Capital punishment doesn't work.  It's not a deterrent and it's even more expensive than alternative forms of punishment.

We should sentence him to some compassionate counselling, maybe some state-funded backrubs.  Help him get to the root of the personal issues that led him down this dark road.

i've thought of a way to reimburse the funds needed to pull off horrible punishment. pay-per-view gladiatorial arenas. yeah, i grew up with unreal tournament, so what? but everytime i mention this, i get called bloodthirsty. i know some would pay to see criminals disembowelling each other with chainsaws...
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: RavynousHunter on December 17, 2015, 11:25:07 am
Actually, can we just, like...freeze the muscles in his face?  Literally affix a neutral, blank look on his face?  Because, seriously, every god damned picture of him I see, he's got this fucking grin that just makes you want to tear his face off.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: ironbite on December 17, 2015, 12:17:33 pm
Then you people must've missed this news

http://www.thewrap.com/hated-drug-ceo-martin-shkreli-arrested-for-fraud/

Ironbite-CELEBRATE GOOD TIMES COME ON!
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: mellenORL on December 17, 2015, 01:54:22 pm
Ibby ? That's why I necro-ed the thread this morning...I has a sad to know you find me too dull to read my posts anymore <sniff>
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Dr. Weird on December 17, 2015, 04:09:07 pm
Lol...another winner from satirist Andy Borowitz:

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/lawyer-for-martin-shkreli-hikes-fees-five-thousand-per-cent

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BROOKLYN (The Borowitz Report)—A criminal lawyer representing Turing Pharmaceuticals chief Martin Shkreli has informed his client that he is raising his hourly legal fees by five thousand per cent, the lawyer has confirmed.

Minutes after Shkreli’s arrest on charges of securities fraud, the attorney, Harland Dorrinson, announced that he was hiking his fees from twelve hundred dollars an hour to sixty thousand dollars.


Shkreli, who reportedly received the news about the price hike while he was being fingerprinted, cried foul and accused his attorney of “outrageous and inhumane price gouging.”

“This is the behavior of a sociopath,” Shkreli was heard screaming.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: niam2023 on December 17, 2015, 04:34:13 pm
I wish I could've been the sociopath to do it to you, Shkreli you disgusting weasel.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Askold on December 17, 2015, 05:10:14 pm
Matt Bors mentioned that Shrekli is in possession of the comic he made about him ...which Shrekli bought for the price of ONE THOUSAND AMERICAN DOLLARS! ...Usually the originals were a lot cheaper but Bors decided to ramp up the price just for Srhekli.

And now that it is possible that Shrekli will be forced to pay heavy fines Bors is wondering if the authorities will confiscate the comic along with his other possessions and sell it to pay for the fines.

It's this comic but it's been here already:
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: dpareja on December 17, 2015, 05:38:45 pm
Shrekli also, it should be noted, is the person who bought the Wu-Tang Clan's one-of-a-kind album (http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2015/12/martin-shkreli-wu-tang-clan-businessweek-once-upon-a-time-in-shaolin-bad/419598/). I wonder if the authorities will confiscate that, too (and if they do, if they can resell it--Shrekli can't--or release the tracks before the 88-year stipulation is up)?
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Kat S. on December 17, 2015, 07:00:08 pm
Securities Fraud and ponzi schemes are not a joke.  Shkreli is accused of stealing 11 million from a hedge fund to pay off investors in a ponzi scheme.  If convicted, he can face up to 20 years in federal prison.

Granted, schemes like these eventually fail and collapse on itself.  Shkreli didn't help himself by being such an attention seeker with his antics.

But hey, he wanted attention right?  Well, he got attention.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: niam2023 on December 17, 2015, 07:40:54 pm
Yeah - Shkreli really needed that fix of being important, and it ultimately undid him.

Even if he manages to escape this, he's exposed as a slimy monster who can never be trusted with anything lest he plunder it for no better reason than "I WANNA!"
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: nickiknack on December 18, 2015, 01:04:31 am
I wonder if he has cried like baby yet. I bet he has, I hope the book gets thrown at the little punk.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: niam2023 on December 18, 2015, 01:09:53 am
Apparently he did when even his Lawyer turned on him and jacked the prices up 5000%.

Well, Trust Fund Brat, crying to mommy and daddy won't save you. Unless of course my guess is right and Shkreli's dad is Mammon, the Demon Lord of Greed. In which case all he needs is a ouija board to turn the court room into a surprisingly good low budget film.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Dakota Bob on December 18, 2015, 08:57:38 am
Apparently he did when even his Lawyer turned on him and jacked the prices up 5000%.

Well, Trust Fund Brat, crying to mommy and daddy won't save you. Unless of course my guess is right and Shkreli's dad is Mammon, the Demon Lord of Greed. In which case all he needs is a ouija board to turn the court room into a surprisingly good low budget film.

That news story was satire, bro. :P
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Kat S. on December 18, 2015, 05:25:32 pm
Shkreli has resigned as CEO of Turing Pharmaceuticals. (http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2015/12/18/martin-shkreli-turing-pharmaceuticals/77557514/)

I guess he'd rather quit before getting fired like he did at his last major job at Retrophin Pharmaceuticals.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: SpaceProg on December 19, 2015, 09:36:10 am
This news pleases me.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: guizonde on December 19, 2015, 06:59:58 pm
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aRAwvZy_460s.jpg)
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: R. U. Sirius on December 19, 2015, 11:53:01 pm
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aRAwvZy_460s.jpg)

Eh; I wouldn't say there's no left-wing, right-wing divide.

Liberals think this guy is a douche for exploiting people at their weakest and neediest.

Conservatives think this guy is a douche for getting caught exploiting people at their weakest and neediest and, more importantly, engaging in a Ponzi scheme that targeted the rich rather than the poor and desperate.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: Barbarella on January 04, 2016, 01:32:12 am
And now, Ladies & Gents; THE PERP-WALK!
http://gawker.com/heres-your-martin-shkreli-perp-walk-schadenfreude-galle-1748514916
....BEAUTIFUL!
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: davedan on January 05, 2016, 06:52:13 pm
I don't know if this has already been up but a girl went on a Tindr date with him and wrote this article http://www.smh.com.au/world/my-tinder-date-with-pharma-bro-martin-shkreli-20160105-gm02fn.html (http://www.smh.com.au/world/my-tinder-date-with-pharma-bro-martin-shkreli-20160105-gm02fn.html)

You know I know she isn't awful about him but fuck it must be disheartening to have someone go on a date with you just so they can write an article.
Title: Re: Man buys HIV drug supply and the price goes up through the roof
Post by: niam2023 on January 05, 2016, 10:39:58 pm
...Not the Martin Shkreli I expected.

I mean, I expected him to be a domineering dudebro.