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Title: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Radiation on June 25, 2013, 11:55:08 pm
This will be a thread for the worst parts of social justice either on Tumblr or elsewhere on the Internet. Note this is out of Flame and Burn and forum rules will be enforced. This will allow us to do as we did before but with more civility and more reasonable discussions.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on June 26, 2013, 12:00:27 am
 This Is Thin Privilege posted a story about how someone is upset about having their group's picture taken and posted to a blog without their permission. Which is fine, but then they go and reblog a post about a woman who (presumably) stared at a fat person on the Subway complete with her picture.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/24fcbd98d58f17e32529426a39e3ee0d/tumblr_mo59oeGw4w1qilgqqo1_1280.png)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/a5db388291837f853c9a8533ffb0a08c/tumblr_mo59oeGw4w1qilgqqo2_500.png)

Here's the link to the second post in full:
http://thisisthinprivilege.tumblr.com/post/52475680487/algietheminer-anactingangel-smilesizeist

What I want to know, is how that isn't hypocritical?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on June 26, 2013, 12:07:29 am
I don't feel like digging up the link now, but once I saw someone on tumblr call out someone else on "cultural appropriation" because they named their dog Bindi. They then wished for said dog to die. Regardless of whether they were right or not about the cultural appropriation, the dog didn't choose its fucking name.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: ThunderWulf on June 26, 2013, 12:09:08 am
This Is Thin Privilege posted a story about how someone is upset about having their group's picture taken and posted to a blog without their permission. Which is fine, but then they go and reblog a post about a woman who (presumably) stared at a fat person on the Subway complete with her picture.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/24fcbd98d58f17e32529426a39e3ee0d/tumblr_mo59oeGw4w1qilgqqo1_1280.png)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/a5db388291837f853c9a8533ffb0a08c/tumblr_mo59oeGw4w1qilgqqo2_500.png)

Here's the link to the second post in full:
http://thisisthinprivilege.tumblr.com/post/52475680487/algietheminer-anactingangel-smilesizeist

What I want to know, is how that isn't hypocritical?

Because they're doing it.  I've noticed that no matter the group, people will often call out the hypocrisy of others, but ignore their own.  It gets frustrating in large doses.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: niam2023 on June 26, 2013, 03:50:05 am
Has the SJW blogosphere exploded about the Jeselnik Offensive yet? Id imagine he'd have whole pages to himself on Your Fave is Problematic...
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Lithp on June 26, 2013, 05:23:51 am
I want to know how This Is Thin Privilege responds to the following 2 facts:

1. Weight can be changed. This means that the status of "thin" can effectively be "earned." The definition of privilege is generally given as a benefit conveyed by society on a classification that is not & can not be earned, such as race or sexual orientation.
2. Most of the supposed "privileges" of being "thin" have a dark side that is arguably worse than the benefits that they provide. For instance, while thin people are portrayed as beautiful, these portrayals are usually edited to be UNREALISTICALLY thin, which results in eating disorders. Which thin people are then berated for having, whether they actually do or not. Generally, if the risks dramatically outweigh the benefits, you aren't considered to be privileged.

It's quite possible that some things do not conform to a simple privilege/oppression dynamic, & that sometimes it's pretty much lose/lose.

Edit: Answered my own question. I find myself not liking a little less than half of This Is Thin Privilege's FAQ.

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I think it’s important to note that disability is its own underprivileged status, and in this case thin people with EDs are conflating the oppression they feel for lacking able-bodied privilege with a negation of their thin privilege.

This whole "there are no significant drawbacks to thin people due to the promotion of thinness because that's something else" thing is a real running theme.

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There’s a false dichotomy being set up in this question.

Such as fat*=oppressed & thin=privileged?

*=Wasn't sure what to list as opposite to "thin," but since the blog drops the word "fat" quite nonchalantly, I figured I'd take a "when in Rome" approach.

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No. Body size is second only to height in heritability. Would you suggest that someone who’s too tall get shorter? No? Didn’t think so. You’ve been sold a pack of lies by the healthists and their corporate sponsors, the diet industry. Educate yourself.

As for the word ‘obese,’ it’s a medicalization of the human body, and the pathologization of a natural state. In short, I abhor it.

Let’s get this straight: The number of people who go from fat to thin, and stay there, statistically rounds down to zero.

I think that the necessity & ease of weight loss are dramatically overstated myths as well, but that it's essentially impossible for anyone sounds a lot like bullshit.

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People who deny thin privilege and fat discrimination are trolls. Even if they don’t know it.

Well, I guess I can't argue with that logic.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on June 26, 2013, 01:06:22 pm
I don't feel like digging up the link now, but once I saw someone on tumblr call out someone else on "cultural appropriation" because they named their dog Bindi. They then wished for said dog to die. Regardless of whether they were right or not about the cultural appropriation, the dog didn't choose its fucking name.

They should also get pissy as Bindi Irwin, then.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: shy on June 26, 2013, 02:19:51 pm
I don't feel like digging up the link now, but once I saw someone on tumblr call out someone else on "cultural appropriation" because they named their dog Bindi. They then wished for said dog to die. Regardless of whether they were right or not about the cultural appropriation, the dog didn't choose its fucking name.

Cultural appropriation is baaaaad, but innocent animals dying because you personally disagree with their owners is totally kumbaya.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on June 26, 2013, 06:15:57 pm
I think the reason a lot of SJWs engage in hypocritical behaviors without acknowledging it or even denying that they're hypocrites is because they view it as "eye for an eye" sort of thing. In the case of the thin privilege blog up top, they feel that because their group was photographed and posted online, it's okay to do the same in "revenge" even if the person wasn't involved. They're probably also applying new context to the woman's apparent "Tsk of disgust", misinterpreting a benign action as a negative one directed specifically at them, or even inventing the action wholesale (either in their heads after the fact or intentionally lying to make for a justification).

And on that note, the reason crazy SJWs can feel good about taking "revenge" on people who have never wronged them is because the turn it into "us vs. them". All thin people are evil because of thin privilege. All white people are evil because some whites are racist. All cissexual people are evil because some cis folks don't believe in transsexuality. It's much easier to justify hatred and evil against a group if you can simply paint them with a sweeping brush and not have to think about their worth as a person.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Alehksunos on June 26, 2013, 06:31:02 pm
I never understand why everybody has to think in black and white, other than it's so damn easy to just dehumanize an entire group of people instead of think of others. Those people are nothing more than "Moonbats," the opposite extreme versions of a Wingnut (thanks, RationalWiki, for offering a such term, I don't know how many people use it, though).

But at the same time, we had people on this forum paint Social Justice Advocates in dark paint because of those idiots, who themselves - as already mentioned - do the same for a group of regular targets over specific idiots of that background. And the worst aspect, those people even consider reverse discrimination as justified. Discrimination is discrimination, no buts, no exceptions.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on June 26, 2013, 06:46:03 pm
I never understand why everybody has to think in black and white, other than it's so damn easy to just dehumanize an entire group of people instead of think of others.

That's exactly it: it IS easier. People tend to take the easy way out. The other choice would be to critically think about individuals and consider as many factors (as well as how important each factor is, rather than simply assigning equal importance to everything) as possible before making a decision. But that not only takes way more time and effort, but it means that you often have to ask yourself a lot of uncomfortable questions and risk coming to a conclusion that you don't agree with.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on June 26, 2013, 07:11:11 pm
It's so easy to view the world in black and white. But grey? I don't know what to do with grey.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: wrightway on June 26, 2013, 08:31:10 pm
Dissect it at area 51?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Lithp on June 26, 2013, 08:50:46 pm
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But at the same time, we had people on this forum paint Social Justice Advocates in dark paint because of those idiots

Point of order: I still think that most social justice bloggers are morons.
Reason why: Most ANYTHING on the internet is fucking stupid.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Distind on June 26, 2013, 08:53:35 pm
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But at the same time, we had people on this forum paint Social Justice Advocates in dark paint because of those idiots

Point of order: I still think that most social justice bloggers are morons.
Reason why: Most ANYTHING on the internet is fucking stupid.
Though the failure of internet activism(for anything other than goals directly related to the internet) may best be a seperate subject. It did make for a wonderfully long fight in the SJW thread.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on June 26, 2013, 09:24:10 pm
It's so easy to view the world in black and white. But grey? I don't know what to do with grey.

Make 50 shades of it.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Igor on June 26, 2013, 11:12:55 pm
It's so easy to view the world in black and white. But grey? I don't know what to do with grey.

Make 50 shades of it.
50,000 shades (http://www.amazon.com/Fifty-Thousand-Shades-Of-Grey-Ashen/dp/1479215430), more like.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Søren on June 26, 2013, 11:35:18 pm
It's so easy to view the world in black and white. But grey? I don't know what to do with grey.

Make 50 shades of it.

EW
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on June 27, 2013, 01:39:12 am
Social justice warrior movethefuckoverbro explains why they can't just simply ask "bro" to move over:

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First of all, I shouldn’t have to. They are in public and should be acting appropriately, which includes not encroaching on other people’s space and not feeling entitled to as many seats as you can fit your legs onto.
Second, asking a man to move is incredibly intimidating for women, because of the very real threat of male violence. If you don’t understand this you probably also don’t understand why women don’t arbitrarily take any old route home at night and I recommend talking to a woman irl about her safety routines.
Third, initiating conversation with men, even if it’s just to ask them to move over, often leads to continued and extremely unwelcome attention from the man. Like, ‘excuse me’ somehow gets regarded as a come on


I'm sorry but violence isn't a normal response to "could you please move over." Ever. That's not normal.
How do these people even function?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on June 27, 2013, 01:43:51 am
I wonder if she's ever fled in terror at a man who casually glanced at her.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Askold on June 27, 2013, 02:01:14 am
This one does have some point but I'm infurated be the tone of the article:

http://kateharding.net/2009/10/08/guest-blogger-starling-schrodinger%E2%80%99s-rapist-or-a-guy%E2%80%99s-guide-to-approaching-strange-women-without-being-maced/

Seriously, she has a point about not cornering a stranger in the corner to start a conversation with her but the whole article is just...

"Schroedinger's rapist?" Apparently there is nothing that a man can do to prove that he is not a potential rapist.

Which might be true from a certain point of view but the whole shaming the men aspect just annoys me.

But the thing that annoys me the most is that if the tone was different. If this wasn't so passive agressive rant I would have put it in the GOOD Social Justice thread.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Lithp on June 27, 2013, 02:30:04 am
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I recommend talking to a woman irl about her safety routines.

Uh, if conversing with a man is so intimidating, that means I would be making a threat. Fuck, that even sounds kind of like a threat to ME. "So, what kind of safety routes do you take, hm?"

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This one does have some point but I'm infurated be the tone of the article:

I don't see why you would be. I am pretty damn biased when it comes to these "constantly second guess yourself as coming across as some kind of criminal weirdo" type posts, & even I find little to complain about in here. I'd even say that a fair amount of it is pretty funny, especially given the subject matter.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on June 27, 2013, 02:38:56 am
This one does have some point but I'm infurated be the tone of the article:

http://kateharding.net/2009/10/08/guest-blogger-starling-schrodinger%E2%80%99s-rapist-or-a-guy%E2%80%99s-guide-to-approaching-strange-women-without-being-maced/

Seriously, she has a point about not cornering a stranger in the corner to start a conversation with her but the whole article is just...

"Schroedinger's rapist?" Apparently there is nothing that a man can do to prove that he is not a potential rapist.

Which might be true from a certain point of view but the whole shaming the men aspect just annoys me.

But the thing that annoys me the most is that if the tone was different. If this wasn't so passive agressive rant I would have put it in the GOOD Social Justice thread.

I think my main problem is the negative effect that approaching every man like a potential rapist will cause. It results in inherent lack of trust and intimidation by all men that she approaches, which will inevitably result in unconscious (or possibly even conscious) words and body language that treat the person as a potential threat. How would you feel if every stranger you met immediately responded to your approach as a possible threat and acted accordingly? You're not going to get along well with them, I bet.

Not to mention that, as is commonly stated, the vast majority of rapes are done by those that already knew the victim. Statistically, treating every strange man as a threat purely because he's a man is the OPPOSITE of what you should be doing.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Patches on June 27, 2013, 06:48:59 am
Social justice warrior movethefuckoverbro explains why they can't just simply ask "bro" to move over:

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First of all, I shouldn’t have to. They are in public and should be acting appropriately, which includes not encroaching on other people’s space and not feeling entitled to as many seats as you can fit your legs onto.
Second, asking a man to move is incredibly intimidating for women, because of the very real threat of male violence. If you don’t understand this you probably also don’t understand why women don’t arbitrarily take any old route home at night and I recommend talking to a woman irl about her safety routines.
Third, initiating conversation with men, even if it’s just to ask them to move over, often leads to continued and extremely unwelcome attention from the man. Like, ‘excuse me’ somehow gets regarded as a come on


I'm sorry but violence isn't a normal response to "could you please move over." Ever. That's not normal.
How do these people even function?
You'd... be surprised, actually.  I actually completely agree with this person's sentiments.  If you see a man who is already flagrantly displaying his disregard and contempt for other people, calling him on it, especially as a woman, is probably a very risky thing to do.  I can't imagine that the type of person who would willfully block other people's paths or take up more space than they need would be the type to just say, "Oh, I'm sorry" if asked to move.  The entire reason they're doing it is because they're looking for someone to challenge them, so they can use that as justification for a confrontation.

In short, what this person is saying is, "If you see a troll, don't feed it."
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Distind on June 27, 2013, 07:56:54 am
You'd... be surprised, actually.  I actually completely agree with this person's sentiments.  If you see a man who is already flagrantly displaying his disregard and contempt for other people, calling him on it, especially as a woman, is probably a very risky thing to do.  I can't imagine that the type of person who would willfully block other people's paths or take up more space than they need would be the type to just say, "Oh, I'm sorry" if asked to move.  The entire reason they're doing it is because they're looking for someone to challenge them, so they can use that as justification for a confrontation.

In short, what this person is saying is, "If you see a troll, don't feed it."
Except that's not qualified in that way, it's simply stating all men. Most anyone isn't going to open themselves up to dealing with an aggressive ass. That's not a woman thing, that's a human thing. I say this as someone who could easily accidentally block something by being carless while having a conversation, but would get out of the way if asked.

It's part of the internet "assume the worst about what that person didn't say" fitler. We see it a lot.


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It is shocking and horrifying to see so-called lefties and ‘progressives’ be so horrible to their non-human comrades.
So called lefties, and 'progressives'. So would this be no true revolutionary?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Sigmaleph on June 27, 2013, 08:16:41 am
This one does have some point but I'm infurated be the tone of the article:

http://kateharding.net/2009/10/08/guest-blogger-starling-schrodinger%E2%80%99s-rapist-or-a-guy%E2%80%99s-guide-to-approaching-strange-women-without-being-maced/

Seriously, she has a point about not cornering a stranger in the corner to start a conversation with her but the whole article is just...

"Schroedinger's rapist?" Apparently there is nothing that a man can do to prove that he is not a potential rapist.

Which might be true from a certain point of view but the whole shaming the men aspect just annoys me.

But the thing that annoys me the most is that if the tone was different. If this wasn't so passive agressive rant I would have put it in the GOOD Social Justice thread.

Honestly, I don't see what you mean about passive-aggressiveness. The author seems to be making an extraordinary effort to clarify that it's not that every man is a rapist. That it's not necessarily the man's fault if a woman feels uncomfortable or unsafe. It's a reaction to statistical realities and even an explanation of what to do to make sure you don't appear threatening to a stranger. Frankly, she could've just said "A shitload of rape is going on, I feel perfectly justified in being uncomfortable around people who might rape me" and leave it at that, but she went beyond that to make sure the message is clear.


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Not to mention that, as is commonly stated, the vast majority of rapes are done by those that already knew the victim. Statistically, treating every strange man as a threat purely because he's a man is the OPPOSITE of what you should be doing.

1. Someone that asks you out on a date and then rapes you during it counts as rape by someone who knew the victim, I would guess.

2. What's what she should be doing, treating every stranger as a harmless kitten until they become acquaintances, at which point he becomes a rapist? I'd guess that the reason one is more likely to be raped by an acquaintance is a matter of opportunity. Being already in the same room in private, that sort of thing. Therefore, it makes perfect sense to be wary of giving strangers those opportunities until you know a bit more about them, and can make a slightly more informed judgement.

3. Even if the whole thing was fully unjustified (which I don't think it is), if someone feels uncomfortable around strange men then it still makes sense to make some allowances. If someone is afraid of flying because every time they get on a plane they vividly imagine a crash, then you can't just quote air crash statistics at them and then be surprised they still don't want to get on a plane. Even if the risk is not there, fear makes the experience unpleasant and they have every right to avoid it, or to try to act in such a way as to feel safer.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: ThunderWulf on June 27, 2013, 10:46:51 am
Social justice warrior movethefuckoverbro explains why they can't just simply ask "bro" to move over:

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First of all, I shouldn’t have to. They are in public and should be acting appropriately, which includes not encroaching on other people’s space and not feeling entitled to as many seats as you can fit your legs onto.
Second, asking a man to move is incredibly intimidating for women, because of the very real threat of male violence. If you don’t understand this you probably also don’t understand why women don’t arbitrarily take any old route home at night and I recommend talking to a woman irl about her safety routines.
Third, initiating conversation with men, even if it’s just to ask them to move over, often leads to continued and extremely unwelcome attention from the man. Like, ‘excuse me’ somehow gets regarded as a come on


I'm sorry but violence isn't a normal response to "could you please move over." Ever. That's not normal.
How do these people even function?

I... what?  Yes, because I'm going to sexually assault you because you ask me to move over or say excuse me.  That is one of the DUMBEST things I've ever heard, and completely takes away from the very real problem of real violence against women.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Art Vandelay on June 27, 2013, 11:05:12 am
You'd... be surprised, actually.  I actually completely agree with this person's sentiments.  If you see a man who is already flagrantly displaying his disregard and contempt for other people, calling him on it, especially as a woman, is probably a very risky thing to do.  I can't imagine that the type of person who would willfully block other people's paths or take up more space than they need would be the type to just say, "Oh, I'm sorry" if asked to move.  The entire reason they're doing it is because they're looking for someone to challenge them, so they can use that as justification for a confrontation.

In short, what this person is saying is, "If you see a troll, don't feed it."
Not necessarily. Quite often I'll do that on public transport without even thinking about it. If there's no one sitting near me, I like to spread out a bit to get comfortable (as long as no one else is using that space, might as well, right?) I try to be aware of if the bus/train car is starting to fill up so I can pre-emptively make room if need be. However, I tend to zone out, especially if I'm listening to music, so sometimes a quick "excuse me" is necessary. I can't say the thought of attacking or raping someone over it has even crossed my mind.

That's not to say assholes on public transport isn't a thing. Far from it. Just that not everyone who takes up more space than they really should is a rapist laying in wait.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Witchyjoshy on June 27, 2013, 03:24:15 pm
There's a problem with thinking that every time you are mildly inconvenienced by someone it is an intentionally malicious act on their part.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: wrightway on June 27, 2013, 04:37:46 pm
I'm always "fond" of people who use status to brush aside their actions. I was on a group that had a bully who happened to be trans. I was told they couldn't be a bully because trans folk are the ones who are bullied, not the bullies. Ye gods, the fact the person is trans does not keep them from being an asshat. Nor does it make them one. Their continued actions and refusal to acknowledge what they're doing wrong was what was making them an asshat.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on June 27, 2013, 04:52:27 pm
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1. Someone that asks you out on a date and then rapes you during it counts as rape by someone who knew the victim, I would guess.

The statistics I got from RAINN (http://www.rainn.org/statistics) simply cite it as "2/3 of victims knew the rapist". They have no qualifiers except for "38% were a friend or acquaintance." At the same time, we can't determine how many of that roughly 66% were people known from a single date, as opposed to neighbors, coworkers, and the like who the victim wasn't acquainted with.

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2. What's what she should be doing, treating every stranger as a harmless kitten until they become acquaintances, at which point he becomes a rapist? I'd guess that the reason one is more likely to be raped by an acquaintance is a matter of opportunity. Being already in the same room in private, that sort of thing. Therefore, it makes perfect sense to be wary of giving strangers those opportunities until you know a bit more about them, and can make a slightly more informed judgement.

Strawman argument. There are levels between "Every stranger is harmless until they're statistically the more likely group to rape me" and "Every strange man is a potential rapist and I will treat you as a threat until you prove otherwise." Being wary of strangers is not the same as going into alert mode every time you're around one.

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3. Even if the whole thing was fully unjustified (which I don't think it is), if someone feels uncomfortable around strange men then it still makes sense to make some allowances. If someone is afraid of flying because every time they get on a plane they vividly imagine a crash, then you can't just quote air crash statistics at them and then be surprised they still don't want to get on a plane. Even if the risk is not there, fear makes the experience unpleasant and they have every right to avoid it, or to try to act in such a way as to feel safer.

"Treat all men as threats until otherwise proven" isn't a very sensible allowance, and is likely a sign that you're in need of counseling. There's a huge difference between taking sensible precautions and placing an entire, mostly benign group in your "Be terrified of" box because of the actions of a minority.

Don't we always mention here not to paint an entire, diverse group with a single brush and irrationally fear them because of the actions of a few?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Distind on June 27, 2013, 05:01:04 pm
"Treat all men as threats until otherwise proven" isn't a very sensible allowance, and is likely a sign that you're in need of counseling. There's a huge difference between taking sensible precautions and placing an entire, mostly benign group in your "Be terrified of" box because of the actions of a minority.
From the last time this was discussed I was rather amazed at the number of people who apparently live their lives in a state of utter terror over what other people might do to them. Regardless of apparent intent.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Sigmaleph on June 27, 2013, 05:22:59 pm
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2. What's what she should be doing, treating every stranger as a harmless kitten until they become acquaintances, at which point he becomes a rapist? I'd guess that the reason one is more likely to be raped by an acquaintance is a matter of opportunity. Being already in the same room in private, that sort of thing. Therefore, it makes perfect sense to be wary of giving strangers those opportunities until you know a bit more about them, and can make a slightly more informed judgement.

Strawman argument. There are levels between "Every stranger is harmless until they're statistically the more likely group to rape me" and "Every strange man is a potential rapist and I will treat you as a threat until you prove otherwise." Being wary of strangers is not the same as going into alert mode every time you're around one.
There certainly are plenty of levels in between, my point is that "Most rapes are committed by people known to the victim" does not imply "You are safer around strangers than around acquaintances", which is what I thought you were trying to say.
Also, what would you describe as the difference between being wary and alert mode? Also, why do you think that the writer is advocating the latter and not the former?

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3. Even if the whole thing was fully unjustified (which I don't think it is), if someone feels uncomfortable around strange men then it still makes sense to make some allowances. If someone is afraid of flying because every time they get on a plane they vividly imagine a crash, then you can't just quote air crash statistics at them and then be surprised they still don't want to get on a plane. Even if the risk is not there, fear makes the experience unpleasant and they have every right to avoid it, or to try to act in such a way as to feel safer.

"Treat all men as threats until otherwise proven" isn't a very sensible allowance, and is likely a sign that you're in need of counseling. There's a huge difference between taking sensible precautions and placing an entire, mostly benign group in your "Be terrified of" box because of the actions of a minority.
But that's not what she's doing.  She asks men to be aware of context and social cues, not saying that she refuses to interact with men under any circumstances.

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Don't we always mention here not to paint an entire, diverse group with a single brush and irrationally fear them because of the actions of a few?
But, again, that's not what she's doing. The very first point brought up in the article is that most men are good people. She explains why she is careful, and why she is more worried under some circumstances than others. If she was saying that women should treat all men as rapists regardless of anything else, then I would be entirely in agreement with you. As far as I can tell, she's saying that women are have to be aware of the possibility of rape, more so than men, and that men should realise how that affects their interactions with strange women.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: mellenORL on June 27, 2013, 06:25:29 pm
You are also statistically less likely to be targeted by an actual criminal if you do engage them with neutral to friendly eye contact, a nod, a hello...or even a "please, may I sit here"?

As to assuming all men are a potential threat for your own safety consciousness routine? Maybe not as necessary as you think.

A favorite incident in my life started out pretty damned bad, but...I got on a packed-solid train after work late one night (an ATL Braves game just let out two stations before mine). I stood for a bit, but as a seat became available right next to me, I bent to sit in it, and got sort of shoved off from doing so by a young white male, who refused to acknowledge my existence. A young black male who witnessed this got up, offered his seat to me, and walked over to stand right in front of asshat, staring him down, while wearing a big grin. Asshat did not look up, but got redder and redder and nervous acting, then jumped up quickly to get off at the next stop (probably not his intended one).

There is safety in numbers. At least still here in the States and other first world countries. I say that qualifier, because yeah, India and other locales of horrific savage incidents in the news lately. Kinda don't see that happening here anytime soon, though.

As to women needing to always consider where and when to walk to be reasonably safe? Of course! That is common sense. And you know that men do the exact same thinking, unless they are clueless egotists. A gun or knife, or just the element of surprise, will trump any man's physical strength, and guys know that. They might take a risk now and then, but men are crime victims as often, or more often, than women, and a long walk down a dark alley in a sketchy neighborhood is nerve wrecking for a man, too.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on June 27, 2013, 07:23:43 pm
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There certainly are plenty of levels in between, my point is that "Most rapes are committed by people known to the victim" does not imply "You are safer around strangers than around acquaintances", which is what I thought you were trying to say.

Definitely not. My point is that if you're picking a specific fear of a specific crime and applying it to a specific group of people, you probably shouldn't take one that's statistically the less likely group.

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Also, what would you describe as the difference between being wary and alert mode? Also, why do you think that the writer is advocating the latter and not the former?

"Wary" does not come with the implication that she will treat every unknown man as a potential rapist until they prove otherwise. She does provide some specific examples of genuinely threatening behavior, but those don't mesh well with her previous assertion that she approaches all strange men as Schrodinger's Rapist.

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But that's not what she's doing.  She asks men to be aware of context and social cues, not saying that she refuses to interact with men under any circumstances.

That is not even close to what I said. Don't imply otherwise. What I said was that she treats all men as threats, regardless of who they are, until they personally prove to her that they're not threatening and she evaluates every man she sees as a potential rapist. If you're going through your life looking at every member of a particular group and dissecting how threatening each of them is, you may need to re-evaluate your fears.

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But, again, that's not what she's doing. The very first point brought up in the article is that most men are good people. She explains why she is careful, and why she is more worried under some circumstances than others. If she was saying that women should treat all men as rapists regardless of anything else, then I would be entirely in agreement with you. As far as I can tell, she's saying that women are have to be aware of the possibility of rape, more so than men, and that men should realise how that affects their interactions with strange women.

"Be aware of the possibility of rape" is not the same as "I will treat you as a potential rapist if I don't know you." That's not an exaggeration, either. She outright states that if she doesn't know you, she is considering the possibility that you may rape her. If she was saying that she's always considering the possibility of a black guy robbing her until they prove otherwise, people would be calling foul.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on June 27, 2013, 07:48:49 pm
I think being automatically wary of all men is sort of a preemptive reaction to the victim-blaming she may receive if a man does, in fact, turn out to be a rapist. Sort of like, "But he was so creepy to you! Why didn't you notice sooner?" As if it's her responsibility to magically know which men are good and which men are bad. Neither side of this is particularly rational from an objective perspective but it's important to realize why she might feel that way.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on June 27, 2013, 08:01:39 pm
I think being automatically wary of all men is sort of a preemptive reaction to the victim-blaming she may receive if a man does, in fact, turn out to be a rapist. Sort of like, "But he was so creepy to you! Why didn't you notice sooner?" As if it's her responsibility to magically know which men are good and which men are bad. Neither side of this is particularly rational from an objective perspective but it's important to realize why she might feel that way.

I realize why she acts this way. Understanding someone's point of view doesn't necessarily make their behavior correct or rational, however. In fact, it's highly likely that automatically engaging in defensive behavior (which includes various social cues and body language, consciously or otherwise) will be seen as intimidating or possibly antagonistic depending on what she does.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Sigmaleph on June 27, 2013, 10:41:43 pm
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There certainly are plenty of levels in between, my point is that "Most rapes are committed by people known to the victim" does not imply "You are safer around strangers than around acquaintances", which is what I thought you were trying to say.

Definitely not. My point is that if you're picking a specific fear of a specific crime and applying it to a specific group of people, you probably shouldn't take one that's statistically the less likely group.
Sorry for misunderstanding, then.

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Also, what would you describe as the difference between being wary and alert mode? Also, why do you think that the writer is advocating the latter and not the former?

"Wary" does not come with the implication that she will treat every unknown man as a potential rapist until they prove otherwise. She does provide some specific examples of genuinely threatening behavior, but those don't mesh well with her previous assertion that she approaches all strange men as Schrodinger's Rapist.

You keep using the phrasing "treat men like potential rapists". What do you think this entails, exactly?

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If you're going through your life looking at every member of a particular group and dissecting how threatening each of them is, you may need to re-evaluate your fears.

Depends on how you go about it, really. Devoting a significant amount of your conscious thought to it is over-reaction, and will probably kill you with stress. Subconsciously analysing a stranger you pass by on the street, reacting if there's a hint in their manner that they might do something, is a basic necessity.

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"Be aware of the possibility of rape" is not the same as "I will treat you as a potential rapist if I don't know you." That's not an exaggeration, either. She outright states that if she doesn't know you, she is considering the possibility that you may rape her.

I'm confused here. How is being aware of the possibility of rape not the same thing as considering the possibility of rape?

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If she was saying that she's always considering the possibility of a black guy robbing her until they prove otherwise, people would be calling foul.

Only if she didn't extend the same care to guys of other races. Considering the possibility that people in general might rob you is a good way to diminish the chances of being robbed.

Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on June 27, 2013, 11:16:42 pm
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Welcome to Tumblr, where living healthy is ableism.

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You've done it friend. You've done the activism.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: davedan on June 27, 2013, 11:38:03 pm
In relation to the Schrodinger's Rapist thing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4LkrQCyIz8
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: rookie on June 28, 2013, 10:47:39 am
Recently some coworkers and I had this same discussion. During the course, a lady I work with brought up tthis analogy. Shesaid it's comparable to how a guy might feel walking around with $3000 in twenties in their wallet. She came up with that number because that many bills in a wallet would probably be notices. But she said the procautions you'd take are similar. I thought that was a decent analogy worthy of sharing.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on June 29, 2013, 02:10:47 am
Meanwhile in radfem land:
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Q:So it's a bad thing to like down right rough sex?

A:you’re not a shitty person for it, but yeah asserting dominance over a woman via sex is rape.

Because a woman enjoying rough sex is totally akin to rape.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Art Vandelay on June 29, 2013, 02:54:29 am
Meanwhile in radfem land:
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Q:So it's a bad thing to like down right rough sex?

A:you’re not a shitty person for it, but yeah asserting dominance over a woman via sex is rape.

Because a woman enjoying rough sex is totally akin to rape.

The best part is that this moron is essentially saying that by their logic, someone can be a rapist and still be a good person overall. That's a rather interesting implication, I have to say.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Lithp on June 29, 2013, 03:30:50 am
Meanwhile in radfem land:
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Q:So it's a bad thing to like down right rough sex?

A:you’re not a shitty person for it, but yeah asserting dominance over a woman via sex is rape.

Because a woman enjoying rough sex is totally akin to rape.

The best part is that this moron is essentially saying that by their logic, someone can be a rapist and still be a good person overall. That's a rather interesting implication, I have to say.

Oh my God, the other day, I was taking one of my tours through Cathy Brennan's mystical land of batshittery, & I found myself on a site detailing how penis-in-vaginal sex is a heinous crime. I wish I could find it again, but choice excerpts were, paraphrased to the best of my recollection:

"It can literally kill you, from complications from pregnancy & STDs."
"These complications don't exist for men. What if men could literally die from sex? Then would we care?"
"What kind of person would want to do this to a woman? What kind of woman would want to do this?"
"All penetrative sex is rape."
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Iosa the Invincible on June 29, 2013, 04:00:42 am
It's a good thing sexually transmitted HIV/AIDS isn't a thing; people would die from that.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on June 29, 2013, 04:19:10 am
Meanwhile in radfem land:
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Q:So it's a bad thing to like down right rough sex?

A:you’re not a shitty person for it, but yeah asserting dominance over a woman via sex is rape.

Because a woman enjoying rough sex is totally akin to rape.

The best part is that this moron is essentially saying that by their logic, someone can be a rapist and still be a good person overall. That's a rather interesting implication, I have to say.

Oh my God, the other day, I was taking one of my tours through Cathy Brennan's mystical land of batshittery, & I found myself on a site detailing how penis-in-vaginal sex is a heinous crime. I wish I could find it again, but choice excerpts were, paraphrased to the best of my recollection:

"It can literally kill you, from complications from pregnancy & STDs."
"These complications don't exist for men. What if men could literally die from sex? Then would we care?"
"What kind of person would want to do this to a woman? What kind of woman would want to do this?"
"All penetrative sex is rape."

Ah, yes. The "we shall empower women by treating all of them like naive children, incapable of assessing risks and consenting to sex" mindset.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on June 29, 2013, 06:45:02 am
It's a good thing sexually transmitted HIV/AIDS isn't a thing; people would die from that.

What's worse is that in the paraphrased quote, she specifically brings up STDs and then says that men don't suffer from that.

Literally saying that men can't get STDs.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on June 29, 2013, 06:50:53 am
Meanwhile in radfem land:
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Q:So it's a bad thing to like down right rough sex?

A:you’re not a shitty person for it, but yeah asserting dominance over a woman via sex is rape.

Because a woman enjoying rough sex is totally akin to rape.

Oh good. I'm a rapist. I better go add that to my description on my tumblr.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Distind on June 29, 2013, 06:59:42 am
Ah, yes. The "we shall empower women by treating all of them like naive children, incapable of assessing risks and consenting to sex" mindset.
Some times I wonder if they're just plain afraid of sex, possibly just with men, but given some of the other things I've seen I'm not sure that's the limit of it.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Canadian Mojo on June 29, 2013, 10:09:21 am
Ah, yes. The "we shall empower women by treating all of them like naive children, incapable of assessing risks and consenting to sex" mindset.
Some times I wonder if they're just plain afraid of sex, possibly just with men, but given some of the other things I've seen I'm not sure that's the limit of it.
Closet Christians with some rather deep rooted guilt issues about enjoying themselves?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Lithp on June 29, 2013, 10:14:12 am
Honestly, my favorite part about the article is none of the stuff that's been mentioned. It's the "why would anyone do this?" I imagine it has nothing to do with biological compulsion to preserve the species. And they can't even get out of it with the turkey baster method, because pregnancy is one of the main things they cite as proof that "it can literally kill you."
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on June 29, 2013, 10:40:26 am
Not to mention that sex -- yes, even the evil vaginal intercourse -- feels pretty god damn good. And, being a competent adult who is capable of measuring and taking steps to minimize risks, and not a helpless child, I choose to engage in it by my own free will.

But obviously I'm just too dumb and brainwashed to realize that I'm actually being raped every time I have sex willingly.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Lithp on June 29, 2013, 11:44:19 am
Oh, they had counters for those.

The claim was that few women enjoy vaginal sex & most find it uncomfortable, & the question "is it really okay to put her life in danger just because she 'wants you to'? Do you feel comfortable with that?"
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Canadian Mojo on June 29, 2013, 02:26:45 pm
Oh, they had counters for those.

The claim was that few women enjoy vaginal sex & most find it uncomfortable, & the question "is it really okay to put her life in danger just because she 'wants you to'? Do you feel comfortable with that?"
I guess I'm lucky I found one of the few, and I drive her to the store when she asks which I suspect is far more statistically likely to result in death then engaging in vaginal intercourse with her.  8)
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: shy on June 29, 2013, 02:56:52 pm
Oh, they had counters for those.

The claim was that few women enjoy vaginal sex & most find it uncomfortable, & the question "is it really okay to put her life in danger just because she 'wants you to'? Do you feel comfortable with that?"
I guess I'm lucky I found one of the few, and I drive her to the store when she asks which I suspect is far more statistically likely to result in death then engaging in vaginal intercourse with her.  8)

Now I have the urge to Google statistics on people dying from sex.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: mellenORL on June 29, 2013, 03:16:00 pm
The danger is that PIV sex may lead to crotchspawn that eventually blog utter nonsense that undermines interest in discussing real issues blogged about by intelligent people.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Iosa the Invincible on June 29, 2013, 04:14:49 pm
Oh, they had counters for those.

The claim was that few women enjoy vaginal sex & most find it uncomfortable, & the question "is it really okay to put her life in danger just because she 'wants you to'? Do you feel comfortable with that?"

I thought the statistic was that the majority of women are unable to get off on vaginal sex alone, not that the majority of women are unable to enjoy vaginal sex at all.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on June 29, 2013, 05:08:25 pm
Oh, they had counters for those.

The claim was that few women enjoy vaginal sex & most find it uncomfortable, & the question "is it really okay to put her life in danger just because she 'wants you to'? Do you feel comfortable with that?"

So, women are idiots who need men to protect us from our own stupidity. Got it.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on June 29, 2013, 08:56:48 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/6d241c1e4abfb310d10e78cd830255c9/tumblr_moubhr276S1s3i3mmo1_500.jpg)

Or maybe the creators make them that way because they're actually are people out there who can't eat sugar and gluten?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: niam2023 on June 29, 2013, 09:14:26 pm
Or are people who want to help people actually, oh, I dunno, mind their weight? Maybe some people are actually interested in healthy living instead of "accepting fatness."

My dad almost DIED due to his weight problem.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Askold on June 30, 2013, 01:13:17 am
Oh, they had counters for those.

The claim was that few women enjoy vaginal sex & most find it uncomfortable, & the question "is it really okay to put her life in danger just because she 'wants you to'? Do you feel comfortable with that?"

So, women are idiots who need men to protect us from our own stupidity. Got it.

How else would you explain the fact that most women seem to *gasp* like things like penis in vagina sex? 

Since many radfem ideas are so unpopular they just assume that all the other women are either idiots or simply lying about how they feel.

Kinda like when some fundies claim that atheists all believe in God but are in denial. They cannot comprehend the idea that others might think differently than they do.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: wrightway on June 30, 2013, 01:25:23 am
How do these women sleep at night? I bet their heads would explode if they had to admit some women like anal. Or...gasp!...giving oral.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Lithp on June 30, 2013, 01:34:42 am
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I thought the statistic was that the majority of women are unable to get off on vaginal sex alone, not that the majority of women are unable to enjoy vaginal sex at all.

If you haven't noticed, much of it is technically true, at least partially, but dramatically overstated. Yeah, you can die, indirectly, from sex. But it's not very common, especially in first world countries, which while they like to deny is their target audience, is sort of necessitated by the fact that they're blogging.

What I read on Wiki was that it was found that there aren't very many nerve endings inside the vagina itself, & that it was suspected that enjoyment of vaginal sex is mostly psychological.

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So, women are idiots who need men to protect us from our own stupidity. Got it.

It was a really bizarre attempt to appeal to both sides, but yeah, it does kind of come off that way, doesn't it?

It's worth keeping in mind, Cathy Brennan & most of her supporters are lesbians. Not only that, they're lesbians who think that gay dudes and straight women would be interested in transwomen. I don't know why anyone would be looking to them for unbiased information on heterosexual sex.

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How do these women sleep at night? I bet their heads would explode if they had to admit some women like anal. Or...gasp!...giving oral.

Judging by my correspondences with Cathy, snugly, kept warm by the flames of their own rage.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: wrightway on June 30, 2013, 01:45:11 am
Now I feel like I need to find a guy to blow just to be spiteful. -_-
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: R. U. Sirius on June 30, 2013, 02:59:47 am
I volunteer!
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Art Vandelay on June 30, 2013, 03:36:53 am
I would volunteer, but last time I did that, the force of the ejaculate broke the poor girl's neck. I just barely avoided going to jail for manslaughter by the skin of my teeth.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Lithp on June 30, 2013, 03:46:30 am
At least you don't fire beams of plasma hotter than the surface of the sun.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: R. U. Sirius on June 30, 2013, 04:09:55 am
At least you don't fire beams of plasma hotter than the surface of the sun.

Does it also burn when you pee? You may want to have that checked out.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Lithp on June 30, 2013, 04:11:17 am
At least you don't fire beams of plasma hotter than the surface of the sun.

Does it also burn when you pee? You may want to have that checked out.

I don't shoot lightning when I pee, fucking keep up.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on June 30, 2013, 05:26:05 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/670318e9e9d9afa4f48b0e27cbb61bfa/tumblr_mp60e4m9uL1ryeto5o1_500.png)

o_O
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Iosa the Invincible on June 30, 2013, 05:36:33 pm
Being fat doesn't adversely affect the health of the people around you, unlike smoking.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on June 30, 2013, 05:44:46 pm
Being fat doesn't adversely affect the health of the people around you, unlike smoking.

You've clearly never seen a fat person kidnapping people, tying them up, and force-feeding them for months.

Because apparently that's what happened to this smoker.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on June 30, 2013, 05:46:52 pm
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a word of advice to all men and boys:

do NOT speak to women if they aren’t your friend, relative, coworker or some other form of relation.

if they don’t know you in any way, DO NOT SPEAK TO THEM.

they don’t want your attention your opinion or your concern.

YOU ARE ALWAYS A THREAT TO THEM.

and to invade their space, to engage them with out their express permission is to disregard their personhood.

to insult them

and never too far from assaulting them.

We are looking out for ourselves and our own goals.

If we don’t know you we don’t care for you. Your life is meaningless to us.

keep that in mind and don’t strut around like anyone’s supposed to be impressed with your shitty existence.

Well, this is going to make food service jobs a lot more interesting.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Mister Argent! on June 30, 2013, 06:39:10 pm
Sounds like someone's been having a bad day!

...i kinda got to wonder what these people are like in real life.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on June 30, 2013, 06:47:58 pm
Sounds like someone's been having a bad day!

...i kinda got to wonder what these people are like in real life.

Either terrified of the world or acts semi-normal while secretly resentful of millions of imagined slights.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: RavynousHunter on June 30, 2013, 11:04:15 pm
You know, I'd almost pay to have a little of that...I'm always secretly terrified that I'M the one offending everyone else.

Oi, SJW asshole!  CHECK YOUR NON-SOCIAL ANXIETY-HAVING PRIVILEGE, BITCH!
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on June 30, 2013, 11:37:31 pm
You know, I'd almost pay to have a little of that...I'm always secretly terrified that I'M the one offending everyone else.

Oi, SJW asshole!  CHECK YOUR NON-SOCIAL ANXIETY-HAVING PRIVILEGE, BITCH!

I always have to check that privilege.

Literally almost all of my friends, especially close ones, have some form of social anxiety, while I have absolutely none. I'm basically an extrovert surrounded by people who should be, by all rights, terrified of everything I do.

Which is exactly why at the RZW screener, I started introducing my nervous date to as many people as possible. Her fears were alleviated by the discovery that I work with nice people.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on June 30, 2013, 11:48:20 pm
(http://media.tumblr.com/157f663a9fe6ad646ee5724ce10e457d/tumblr_inline_mp3bjjYkGo1qz4rgp.jpg)

(http://media.tumblr.com/a2a603de4fc4c304988ad0022e5758b0/tumblr_inline_mp3bk2Nhfz1qz4rgp.jpg)

If you're going to lie about your race you better make sure your on anon.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: niam2023 on July 01, 2013, 01:03:45 am
Some of these people seem like the type it'd be fun to tease or poke fun at.

Just to see what kind of angry explosion I could provoke out of them in public.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Lithp on July 01, 2013, 02:51:37 am
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and to invade their space, to engage them with out their express permission is to disregard their personhood.

If we don’t know you we don’t care for you. Your life is meaningless to us.

keep that in mind and don’t strut around like anyone’s supposed to be impressed with your shitty existence.

Also, why is this woman giving advice if she thinks that guys are violent & oppressive by nature? Wouldn't we just ignore it in the best case scenario?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: RavynousHunter on July 01, 2013, 10:58:03 am
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and to invade their space, to engage them with out their express permission is to disregard their personhood.

If we don’t know you we don’t care for you. Your life is meaningless to us.

keep that in mind and don’t strut around like anyone’s supposed to be impressed with your shitty existence.

Also, why is this woman giving advice if she thinks that guys are violent & oppressive by nature? Wouldn't we just ignore it in the best case scenario?

Lithp, darling, that actually requires thinking before one talks.  As we all know, thinking is oppressive to those born without brains.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 01, 2013, 02:28:53 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/670318e9e9d9afa4f48b0e27cbb61bfa/tumblr_mp60e4m9uL1ryeto5o1_500.png)

o_O

I saw that...

I also saw the addition to that as well as a rebuttal about someone being able to move to prevent second-hand smoke.

Because that totally works. (◡‿◡✿)
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Errata on July 01, 2013, 07:21:18 pm
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a word of advice to all men and boys:

do NOT speak to women if they aren’t your friend, relative, coworker or some other form of relation.

if they don’t know you in any way, DO NOT SPEAK TO THEM.

they don’t want your attention your opinion or your concern.

YOU ARE ALWAYS A THREAT TO THEM.

and to invade their space, to engage them with out their express permission is to disregard their personhood.

to insult them

and never too far from assaulting them.

We are looking out for ourselves and our own goals.

If we don’t know you we don’t care for you. Your life is meaningless to us.

keep that in mind and don’t strut around like anyone’s supposed to be impressed with your shitty existence.

Well, this is going to make food service jobs a lot more interesting.


Wait... so if my life is meaningless to her by virtue of just not being her friend, then why should I give two shits what she wants? It swings both way. If you can't be held to treat me with human decency, then why should you expect better from me?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Art Vandelay on July 02, 2013, 12:17:58 am
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a word of advice to all men and boys:

do NOT speak to women if they aren’t your friend, relative, coworker or some other form of relation.

if they don’t know you in any way, DO NOT SPEAK TO THEM.

they don’t want your attention your opinion or your concern.

YOU ARE ALWAYS A THREAT TO THEM.

and to invade their space, to engage them with out their express permission is to disregard their personhood.

to insult them

and never too far from assaulting them.

We are looking out for ourselves and our own goals.

If we don’t know you we don’t care for you. Your life is meaningless to us.

keep that in mind and don’t strut around like anyone’s supposed to be impressed with your shitty existence.

Well, this is going to make food service jobs a lot more interesting.


Wait... so if my life is meaningless to her by virtue of just not being her friend, then why should I give two shits what she wants? It swings both way. If you can't be held to treat me with human decency, then why should you expect better from me?

Because check your privilege.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 02, 2013, 12:21:49 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/3f6bd19789c8497f1989c37a871215a0/tumblr_mp9m5yWCVP1ryeto5o1_1280.png)

Seriously?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 02, 2013, 12:28:39 am
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If a homeless man asks for a dollar - give him thirty cents.

If women only get seventy cents to the dollar - men should only get the other thirty.

(http://i.imgur.com/Vc6q8.gif)
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 02, 2013, 01:51:48 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/3f6bd19789c8497f1989c37a871215a0/tumblr_mp9m5yWCVP1ryeto5o1_1280.png)

Seriously?

Uh...

I don't even know what to say to this.

(Though she [or maybe a he if that person happens to be a transvestite] does look cute in that dress)
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Alehksunos on July 02, 2013, 02:18:57 am
^ I wouldn't be surprised if that is what a lot of Tumblr's userbase looks like.

Look at her (or "him"), all absorbed in kawaiisa, soft plush toys like teddies and kid's stuff, usually with decently large periphery demographics, even her/"his" dress looks like that of the protagonist of Magi Puella Madoka Magicka (please forgive me if I got the name wrong, even though I hang out with fans of an anime I'm reluctant to watch... thanks to being exposed to major spoilers reading and lurking their blogs. Damn it, why do anime series have to have long, pompous, hard to memorize names...).
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 02, 2013, 05:43:06 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/3f6bd19789c8497f1989c37a871215a0/tumblr_mp9m5yWCVP1ryeto5o1_1280.png)

Seriously?
Daww. I wanna hug her. Like, just hug her and hug her and hug her. And, guys, please don't go immediately assuming that this person is trans. That just seems a little offensive, and even if they are, she's still a she. ~glomps~ Sorry, cuteness proximity is overloading my brain.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 02, 2013, 05:59:42 am
Well, they specifically said transvestite before doing the she/he thing. Transvestites are different from transsexuals.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 02, 2013, 06:29:01 am
Well, they specifically said transvestite before doing the she/he thing. Transvestites are different from transsexuals.
Sure, but that was still one person's speculation, and it feels really wrong to speculate on that because, she clearly identifies as a woman, so we should refer to her as a woman. Without any evidence, speculation is a mean-spirited rumor. And, reading though her Tumblr, she's not transsexual or a transvestite. But now my face hurts, because I still can't stop smiling. She's by far one of the happiest and sweetest people on the internet, if not Earth, and she's friggin Scottish. Yes, the moody fucked-in-the-head goth with the Manson/Twiggy avatar has a soft spot for really cute things.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Distind on July 02, 2013, 01:53:43 pm
Honestly the whole picture strikes me as creepy, particlarly the eyes. Entirely without going into any speculation on the gender of the subject.

Just came across this as well.
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People into BDSM are regularly horrifically discriminated against and not even remotely protected by the law.
This is a point where you don't say this, you just give various actual examples. You'll have less snickering. Though given where I picked it up the definition of horrifical discrimination may vary from the norm.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 02, 2013, 02:59:48 pm
Honestly the whole picture strikes me as creepy, particlarly the eyes. Entirely without going into any speculation on the gender of the subject.

Just came across this as well.
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People into BDSM are regularly horrifically discriminated against and not even remotely protected by the law.
This is a point where you don't say this, you just give various actual examples. You'll have less snickering. Though given where I picked it up the definition of horrifical discrimination may vary from the norm.
Regarding the eyes, she uses makeup to make them look larger as well as contacts, and she is cissexual (yes, I've been reading her Tumblr after noticing the link in the picture). Also, where did you pick it up?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Distind on July 02, 2013, 03:21:04 pm
https://twitter.com/TumblrTXT

Reminds me exactly why I keep some reference to the context on the mainpage.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 02, 2013, 05:43:51 pm
https://twitter.com/TumblrTXT

Reminds me exactly why I keep some reference to the context on the mainpage.
Thanks. Some of those are stupid, but some, I wanna hug. For example:
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Dislikes: SJW, Heterophobia, Feminists, MRA's, Homophobia, hate of any kind really.
Gender: Genderfluid, Mostly female.
Doesn't belong there at all.

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Seriously, man. You're really buying into the white hate? No. One race: human. Your blood is as red as mine. Springsteen would be sad.
Also doesn't belong there, and high five to the person who said that.

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what if church was called jesuscon
Oddly legit.

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You can like non-con and dub-con if you want, and that doesn’t make you a rapist!
Fantasy is fantasy. If they keep it to fantasy, this person is right.

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Sometimes my dream for socialism is driven primarily by the need to annoy right-wing people I know.
Fundy trolling is good.

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romantic attraction =/= sensual attraction =/= sexual attraction

also:

sexual attraction =/= sexual drive
This is correct.

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nothing your dictionary says is going to change the fact that [asexuality] is awesome and valid.
Who even denys asexuals exist?

So yeah, some don't belong there, others are insane, some I'm afraid would eat me, and one proclaimed he'd eat anyone, because he's a shark.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 02, 2013, 05:46:56 pm
I wasn't aware that the person actually identified as a woman.  Some guys like to crossdress and still identify as male.

And guys benefit from feminism too, so... yeah.

I generally don't go to people's tumblrs because I generally don't go to tumblr, period.  Just like I don't go to facebook or twitter.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 02, 2013, 05:51:48 pm
I wasn't aware that the person actually identified as a woman.  Some guys like to crossdress and still identify as male.

And guys benefit from feminism too, so... yeah.

I generally don't go to people's tumblrs because I generally don't go to tumblr, period.  Just like I don't go to facebook or twitter.
Ahh. Yeah, she's genetically and mentally female. The fashion is called Sweet Lolita, and it's a Japanese thing. She's actually got a boyfriend (I'm not going to make the obvious jokes), is kinda obsessed with Animal Crossing and gives tons of advice for other Sweet Lolita fashion enthusiasts. Like I said, soft spot for super-cute things. (http://princess-peachie.tumblr.com/) And apparently, it costs a lot of money, and yeah, people are dicks to her in public over it.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Sigmaleph on July 02, 2013, 05:57:11 pm
I wasn't aware that the person actually identified as a woman.  Some guys like to crossdress and still identify as male.

Well, yeah. That's what makes it crossdressing rather than just wearing clothes.


Yeah, I know what you meant. For someone who hates semantic arguments as much as I do, I do use them a lot
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 02, 2013, 06:42:24 pm
Sometimes redundancy is a good thing since it clarifies things :P
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 02, 2013, 07:22:43 pm
Quote
fucking idiot. no, of course the bio females are PRIVILEGED. ALL OUR FEMALE PRIVILEGE.

those poor transwomen in their high heels and cheap lipstick are REALLY the ones who are being oppressed, not the little baby girls who are killed at birth because of their sex.

(http://media.tumblr.com/dcebf72e6ac2e21e2bf2be955655044d/tumblr_inline_mp31hlGv2Y1qz4rgp.png)
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 02, 2013, 07:37:39 pm
Yes, because it's not like trans women face some of the highest risks of being beaten, raped and murdered worldwide, even in countries where sex-based infanticide is extremely rare.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 02, 2013, 08:27:07 pm
This just in: Trans women are secret agents of the patriarchy!

http://womenofthepatriarchy.wordpress.com/2013/01/05/trans-women-are-women-of-the-patriarchy/

More at eleven.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Lithp on July 02, 2013, 11:05:25 pm
Perfect timing. I've decided to go mano-a-mano with Cathy Brennan & Ann Tagonist about the actual science related to transsexuality:

http://anntagonist.wordpress.com/2013/07/02/the-truth-and-the-lie/#comment-328

Because "objective research" looks suspiciously like "my opinion."
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 03, 2013, 12:20:35 am
From the link:
"And since there are no uterus-and-ovaries transplants, it can only replicate one of the vagina’s functions: sexual intercourse. The neovagina is nothing more than a fuckhole. It exists solely to be penetrated."

So what does that make cisgendered women who don't have fully functional uterus and ovaries? What about infertile women or women who had hysterectomies (sp?)?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Askold on July 03, 2013, 12:34:08 am
From the link:
"And since there are no uterus-and-ovaries transplants, it can only replicate one of the vagina’s functions: sexual intercourse. The neovagina is nothing more than a fuckhole. It exists solely to be penetrated."

So what does that make cisgendered women who don't have fully functional uterus and ovaries? What about infertile women or women who had hysterectomies (sp?)?
Again with the finding flaws in their claims! Stop that. 

It might get them thinking and maybe they'd realise that they've been asshats all this time. Such a realisation can be quite traumatic.

Besides, if/when medical science can replicate womb and ovaries for trans-women I'm pretty sure that:

a) Most trans women will want them.
b) These asshats will find different justifications for their bigotry.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 03, 2013, 01:24:49 am
Quote
fucking idiot. no, of course the bio females are PRIVILEGED. ALL OUR FEMALE PRIVILEGE.

those poor transwomen in their high heels and cheap lipstick are REALLY the ones who are being oppressed, not the little baby girls who are killed at birth because of their sex.

It's not a fucking competition. More than one group can face discrimination. Jews AND African-Americans face discrimination. Cis-women AND trans* women face discrimination.

*et al.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Distind on July 03, 2013, 07:27:33 am
Less worst than a thing:
Quote
LGBTQAI2
First 4 easy, Q not that hard, A... annoying but graspable, what is I and 2? or is it I2? For some reason my mind is attempting to put invertibrate in there, which most definitely does not belong.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Askold on July 03, 2013, 07:44:32 am
Less worst than a thing:
Quote
LGBTQAI2
First 4 easy, Q not that hard, A... annoying but graspable, what is I and 2? or is it I2? For some reason my mind is attempting to put invertibrate in there, which most definitely does not belong.
Intersexual?

And I2 might mean II. As in two I's. BECAUSE ABREVIATING II WITH I2 IS SO MUCH EASIER!

Sorry, it's just that in industrial automation I occasionally had to come in contact with the american way of using abreviations for everything. And if there ever was something where two or more of the same letter are used in a row, like IEEC for example, some US based companies would spell it as IE2C or something like that.

/Pet peeve.


Now for something more topic related:
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/f924f4d07f3a6c44c71bfb81da4f87d0/tumblr_mo3q69nWjf1s2i16to1_1280.png)
Note that I'm referring to the anonymous asking the question.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: anti-nonsense on July 03, 2013, 07:45:02 am
I'm guessing I is Intersex, but I dunno what "2" means either.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Igor on July 03, 2013, 08:40:08 am
I think the 2 stands for two-spirit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-Spirit). Could be wrong though.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 03, 2013, 07:10:31 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/e33bc8b6dbe099c9e37a67c97c8a7723/tumblr_mp7vluagx91ryeto5o1_500.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/mUQND.gif)
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: LeTipex on July 03, 2013, 07:48:15 pm
Quote
a word of advice to all men and boys:

do NOT speak to women if they aren’t your friend, relative, coworker or some other form of relation.

if they don’t know you in any way, DO NOT SPEAK TO THEM.

they don’t want your attention your opinion or your concern.

YOU ARE ALWAYS A THREAT TO THEM.

and to invade their space, to engage them with out their express permission is to disregard their personhood.

to insult them

and never too far from assaulting them.

We are looking out for ourselves and our own goals.

If we don’t know you we don’t care for you. Your life is meaningless to us.

keep that in mind and don’t strut around like anyone’s supposed to be impressed with your shitty existence.

Well, this is going to make food service jobs a lot more interesting.
That's going to make meeting people interesting. Especially once you move from one country to another.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: ThunderWulf on July 03, 2013, 11:16:26 pm
Quote
a word of advice to all men and boys:

do NOT speak to women if they aren’t your friend, relative, coworker or some other form of relation.

if they don’t know you in any way, DO NOT SPEAK TO THEM.

they don’t want your attention your opinion or your concern.

YOU ARE ALWAYS A THREAT TO THEM.

and to invade their space, to engage them with out their express permission is to disregard their personhood.

to insult them

and never too far from assaulting them.

We are looking out for ourselves and our own goals.

If we don’t know you we don’t care for you. Your life is meaningless to us.

keep that in mind and don’t strut around like anyone’s supposed to be impressed with your shitty existence.

Well, this is going to make food service jobs a lot more interesting.
That's going to make meeting people interesting. Especially once you move from one country to another.
Or you know, just getting through everyday situations like someone holding the door open for you.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Canadian Mojo on July 04, 2013, 10:11:17 am
Quote
a word of advice to all men and boys:

do NOT speak to women if they aren’t your friend, relative, coworker or some other form of relation.

if they don’t know you in any way, DO NOT SPEAK TO THEM.

they don’t want your attention your opinion or your concern.

YOU ARE ALWAYS A THREAT TO THEM.

and to invade their space, to engage them with out their express permission is to disregard their personhood.

to insult them

and never too far from assaulting them.

We are looking out for ourselves and our own goals.

If we don’t know you we don’t care for you. Your life is meaningless to us.

keep that in mind and don’t strut around like anyone’s supposed to be impressed with your shitty existence.

Well, this is going to make food service jobs a lot more interesting.
That's going to make meeting people interesting. Especially once you move from one country to another.
Or you know, just getting through everyday situations like someone holding the door open for you.
She would have a really bad time in Canada with our whole 'friendly and polite culture' schtick:

Man holds door open, smiles and acknowledges her existence, possibly even says good morning if she gets close enough.
She pops a gasket.
Man immediately apologizes.
She goes even farther over the edge.
Man apologizes even more.
She really looses it.
Male bystander become concerned for her well being and approaches asking if there is anything he can do to help.
She has a meltdown.
Both men begin to apologize profusely and try to calm her. Several more people, among them numerous males, stop to try and help out...
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 04, 2013, 07:31:22 pm
I distinctly remember women in Canada.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 04, 2013, 08:02:52 pm
Quote
a word of advice to all men and boys:

do NOT speak to women if they aren’t your friend, relative, coworker or some other form of relation.

if they don’t know you in any way, DO NOT SPEAK TO THEM.

they don’t want your attention your opinion or your concern.

YOU ARE ALWAYS A THREAT TO THEM.

and to invade their space, to engage them with out their express permission is to disregard their personhood.

to insult them

and never too far from assaulting them.

We are looking out for ourselves and our own goals.

If we don’t know you we don’t care for you. Your life is meaningless to us.

keep that in mind and don’t strut around like anyone’s supposed to be impressed with your shitty existence.

Well, this is going to make food service jobs a lot more interesting.
That's going to make meeting people interesting. Especially once you move from one country to another.
Or you know, just getting through everyday situations like someone holding the door open for you.
She would have a really bad time in Canada with our whole 'friendly and polite culture' schtick:

Man holds door open, smiles and acknowledges her existence, possibly even says good morning if she gets close enough.
She pops a gasket.
Man immediately apologizes.
She goes even farther over the edge.
Man apologizes even more.
She really looses it.
Male bystander become concerned for her well being and approaches asking if there is anything he can do to help.
She has a meltdown.
Both men begin to apologize profusely and try to calm her. Several more people, among them numerous males, stop to try and help out...

Reminds me of this: http://gawker.com/5932846/american-becomes-laughingstock-of-canada-after-letter-to-editor-lamenting-lack-of-handgun-during-mild-confrontation
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: ThunderWulf on July 04, 2013, 08:32:57 pm
Quote
a word of advice to all men and boys:

do NOT speak to women if they aren’t your friend, relative, coworker or some other form of relation.

if they don’t know you in any way, DO NOT SPEAK TO THEM.

they don’t want your attention your opinion or your concern.

YOU ARE ALWAYS A THREAT TO THEM.

and to invade their space, to engage them with out their express permission is to disregard their personhood.

to insult them

and never too far from assaulting them.

We are looking out for ourselves and our own goals.

If we don’t know you we don’t care for you. Your life is meaningless to us.

keep that in mind and don’t strut around like anyone’s supposed to be impressed with your shitty existence.

Well, this is going to make food service jobs a lot more interesting.
That's going to make meeting people interesting. Especially once you move from one country to another.
Or you know, just getting through everyday situations like someone holding the door open for you.
She would have a really bad time in Canada with our whole 'friendly and polite culture' schtick:

Man holds door open, smiles and acknowledges her existence, possibly even says good morning if she gets close enough.
She pops a gasket.
Man immediately apologizes.
She goes even farther over the edge.
Man apologizes even more.
She really looses it.
Male bystander become concerned for her well being and approaches asking if there is anything he can do to help.
She has a meltdown.
Both men begin to apologize profusely and try to calm her. Several more people, among them numerous males, stop to try and help out...

Reminds me of this: http://gawker.com/5932846/american-becomes-laughingstock-of-canada-after-letter-to-editor-lamenting-lack-of-handgun-during-mild-confrontation

Hahaha, oh WOW.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Canadian Mojo on July 04, 2013, 08:45:17 pm
I distinctly remember women in Canada.
Are you sure? The only way you can tell for ten months of the year is by the colour of the parka.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Askold on July 05, 2013, 01:50:52 am
Reminds me of this: http://gawker.com/5932846/american-becomes-laughingstock-of-canada-after-letter-to-editor-lamenting-lack-of-handgun-during-mild-confrontation

Hey, I remember this one!

I would like to use this as example 1 of why armed society is not necessarily a polite society.

And "What concerned me is two young men just approached us and stopped us, stopping us by being in our path, and [began] talking to us without even being welcome to talk to us." So are people in USA not allowed to talk to other people without written permission or something? That does actually sound like what that Jebusfire linked...
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 05, 2013, 02:40:13 am
I remember one time, several years ago, my friend and I came back to her car to discover that she had a flat tire. Neither of us knew how to change it, so we sat there for around ten minutes trying to figure it out until my friend let out a frustrated cry of "FUCK!" Almost immediately, this random dude appeared and offered to change the tire for us. He also explained how to do it, so my friend wouldn't get stuck like that in the future. This wasn't some rare moment of kindess, either -- people in this city are generally pretty good about helping out when someone is in need.

I really wonder how paranoia-mongers like Michigan dude or "Don't talk to women!" chick would respond to something like that. See it as an outlier? Freak about it being inappropriate, regardless of intention? Assume the guy was sexist for wanting to help a woman? Shoot the good Samaritan?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 05, 2013, 03:00:07 am
I remember one time, several years ago, my friend and I came back to her car to discover that she had a flat tire. Neither of us knew how to change it, so we sat there for around ten minutes trying to figure it out until my friend let out a frustrated cry of "FUCK!" Almost immediately, this random dude appeared and offered to change the tire for us. He also explained how to do it, so my friend wouldn't get stuck like that in the future. This wasn't some rare moment of kindess, either -- people in this city are generally pretty good about helping out when someone is in need.

I really wonder how paranoia-mongers like Michigan dude or "Don't talk to women!" chick would respond to something like that. See it as an outlier? Freak about it being inappropriate, regardless of intention? Assume the guy was sexist for wanting to help a woman? Shoot the good Samaritan?
All of the above. See him as an oddity, still feel it's sexist and therefore inappropriate, and then shoot them.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 05, 2013, 03:12:44 am
I distinctly remember women in Canada.
Are you sure? The only way you can tell for ten months of the year is by the colour of the parka.

Never has greater slander been laid at Canadian women.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 05, 2013, 03:20:13 am
I distinctly remember women in Canada.
Are you sure? The only way you can tell for ten months of the year is by the colour of the parka.

Never has greater slander been laid at Canadian women.
[lexluthor]WRONG![/lexluthor] Someone's likely mistaken them for Americans before. That's the greatest slander any Canadian can face.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: ThunderWulf on July 05, 2013, 10:25:52 am
I remember one time, several years ago, my friend and I came back to her car to discover that she had a flat tire. Neither of us knew how to change it, so we sat there for around ten minutes trying to figure it out until my friend let out a frustrated cry of "FUCK!" Almost immediately, this random dude appeared and offered to change the tire for us. He also explained how to do it, so my friend wouldn't get stuck like that in the future. This wasn't some rare moment of kindess, either -- people in this city are generally pretty good about helping out when someone is in need.

I really wonder how paranoia-mongers like Michigan dude or "Don't talk to women!" chick would respond to something like that. See it as an outlier? Freak about it being inappropriate, regardless of intention? Assume the guy was sexist for wanting to help a woman? Shoot the good Samaritan?

That's just it.  HOW do these people function in everyday situations when they freak out and think everyone is out to get them?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 05, 2013, 10:39:05 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/e33bc8b6dbe099c9e37a67c97c8a7723/tumblr_mp7vluagx91ryeto5o1_500.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/mUQND.gif)

Oh dear goddess. There are just some things you have to ignore/let slide. This person doesn't know how.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 05, 2013, 08:53:43 pm
I remember one time, several years ago, my friend and I came back to her car to discover that she had a flat tire. Neither of us knew how to change it, so we sat there for around ten minutes trying to figure it out until my friend let out a frustrated cry of "FUCK!" Almost immediately, this random dude appeared and offered to change the tire for us. He also explained how to do it, so my friend wouldn't get stuck like that in the future. This wasn't some rare moment of kindess, either -- people in this city are generally pretty good about helping out when someone is in need.

I really wonder how paranoia-mongers like Michigan dude or "Don't talk to women!" chick would respond to something like that. See it as an outlier? Freak about it being inappropriate, regardless of intention? Assume the guy was sexist for wanting to help a woman? Shoot the good Samaritan?

Likely the last one. To someone who doesn't even want people to talk to them out of terror, a person approaching out of nowhere (especially alone) with an offer of help would likely be immediately viewed as a rapist and assaulted.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Canadian Mojo on July 05, 2013, 08:54:16 pm
I distinctly remember women in Canada.
Are you sure? The only way you can tell for ten months of the year is by the colour of the parka.

Never has greater slander been laid at Canadian women.
I know the legends tell of the great Canadian women who's charm, beauty, and intellect greatly surpass those of all other women in the world but it's just a legend so all you men (and women) shouldn't bother coming here to try and one to woo and take home with you.  <_<

Besides, they'll melt if taken from their natural habitat.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: mellenORL on July 05, 2013, 09:32:47 pm
Sorry Mojo, but the one thing I remember best about a four day stay in Toronto long ago was my neck ached from swiveling to look back at all the gorgeous women I passed on the street.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 05, 2013, 10:05:50 pm
Fucking Montreal, man. Every woman there looks like a supermodel. I felt so inadequate the last time I was a out there.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 05, 2013, 10:13:09 pm
Fucking Montreal, man. Every woman there looks like a supermodel. I felt so inadequate the last time I was a out there.

Has the forum ever actually seen what you look like?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 05, 2013, 10:28:20 pm
Fucking Montreal, man. Every woman there looks like a supermodel. I felt so inadequate the last time I was a out there.

Has the forum ever actually seen what you look like?

No, but this is a fairly accurate drawing of me:

(http://oi44.tinypic.com/2jcassj.jpg)
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: QueenofHearts on July 05, 2013, 10:29:34 pm
HAWT!
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: ironbite on July 05, 2013, 10:31:22 pm
I'd do her.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 05, 2013, 11:58:47 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/eca5078fc94cafb4803b5863255f4d57/tumblr_mp9w39to2z1riww6vo1_500.png)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/6dd6f258dfeeebde4a1b9c93ede838d4/tumblr_mpfvwxAaiQ1r8gcffo1_500.png)

Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 06, 2013, 12:28:01 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/eca5078fc94cafb4803b5863255f4d57/tumblr_mp9w39to2z1riww6vo1_500.png)

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While I find fictionkin and otherkin and therans fine, ableism is bullshit. Not because people don't discriminate against the disabled. That's real. No, because it's the same thing as calling them "differently abled". Originally, I parodied the Dead Parrot sketch here, but it was going to far. The problem is, it's discrimination based on disability. Without falling back into that Dead Parrot parody, they are disabled. Not differently abled, not specially abled, none of that. They do not have super powers. Trying to remove the phrase "disabled" is like trying to get rid of "African-American" and replace it with "differently colored". It's stupid. Disabled is not an insult, but some think it is because it dares to highlight the fact that they cannot do the same things as non-disabled individuals. However, if you can do everything we can, then you don't need protected status. Or in other words, call it discrimination by disability, or disableism, but ableism sounds like you're discriminating against people for their abilities. Or in other words, you sound like an X-Men villain. Which is stupid.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 06, 2013, 12:41:16 am
...What?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 06, 2013, 12:47:49 am
...What?
Sorry, I've had enough of over-reactions to anything that can be slightly seen as "ableist" and have a problem with the movement in general. I've seen people ganged up on by entire communities for using the terms "idiotic", "lame", "moron" and more for being "ableist". Additionally, if racism is discriminating over race, and sexism is over sex, then ableism should be discrimination by ability. But it's not. It's douchebags discriminating against the disabled. Therefore, it should be disableism. Let alone the idiots who are against the term "disabled" because it's not "empowering" and prefer "differently abled", which sounds like mutants in X-Men, not people who have lost the ability to do certain things. Good cause, stupid people ruining it.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 06, 2013, 01:15:24 am
I work as a homecare aide. The girl I'm currently aiding for absolute hates the term "differently abled" because it's so condescending.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: mellenORL on July 06, 2013, 01:20:16 am
Physically challenged....is that considered offensive, now?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 06, 2013, 01:35:02 am
"Disabled" seems to be the most common term.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 06, 2013, 01:42:34 am
I work as a homecare aide. The girl I'm currently aiding for absolute hates the term "differently abled" because it's so condescending.
Yeah, there are some idiots who actually support it. I hate discrimination against the disabled, but the ableism movement is perhaps the worst way to deal with it. It's like electing a clearly not-all-there cowboy wanna-be again after he cheated in the last election.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: lord gibbon on July 06, 2013, 01:47:03 am
"Disabled" seems to be the most common term.

Yup, that's about it. Disabled simply indicates that the individual has some sort of condition that makes it harder for them to operate according to normal rules. It's also useful because it applies to both physical and mental disabilities. (People always are surprised when I say I'm disabled. Physically, I'm fine, but mentally, I've got Asperger's Syndrome AND Anxiety Disorder.)
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 06, 2013, 02:00:00 am
"Disabled" seems to be the most common term.

Yup, that's about it. Disabled simply indicates that the individual has some sort of condition that makes it harder for them to operate according to normal rules. It's also useful because it applies to both physical and mental disabilities. (People always are surprised when I say I'm disabled. Physically, I'm fine, but mentally, I've got Asperger's Syndrome AND Anxiety Disorder.)
Yeah, people normally forget about mental disabilities.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 06, 2013, 08:09:44 am
It's just the natural progress of the euphemism treadmill. "Retard" used to be a polite description.

I distinctly remember women in Canada.
Are you sure? The only way you can tell for ten months of the year is by the colour of the parka.

Never has greater slander been laid at Canadian women.
I know the legends tell of the great Canadian women who's charm, beauty, and intellect greatly surpass those of all other women in the world but it's just a legend so all you men (and women) shouldn't bother coming here to try and one to woo and take home with you.  <_<

Besides, they'll melt if taken from their natural habitat.

Fairly sure I met her a couple of times, yeah.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 06, 2013, 08:32:27 pm
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I-- what?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 06, 2013, 08:36:05 pm
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I-- what?
She's saying she went to a "Slutty Halloween Party" and got dissed for not being slutty enough, but she wore it because she feels she's fat and was afraid of getting dissed if she went in something more slutty. I have a feeling this girl might actually be anorexic, not fat. I don't quite see the male privilege or slut shaming, since it was really shaming her for not being slutty and, as far as I know, it's woman-on-woman.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 06, 2013, 08:38:38 pm
So, some chick posted this:

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And in response, a bunch of wankers sent her these messages:

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Why? Because apparently, she's fetishizing Japan by wanting to visit it or something.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 06, 2013, 10:44:11 pm
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I-- what?
She's saying she went to a "Slutty Halloween Party" and got dissed for not being slutty enough, but she wore it because she feels she's fat and was afraid of getting dissed if she went in something more slutty. I have a feeling this girl might actually be anorexic, not fat. I don't quite see the male privilege or slut shaming, since it was really shaming her for not being slutty and, as far as I know, it's woman-on-woman.

I know what she's saying and I'm saying it makes no sense to go to a party you know you won't like going to. And the "I-- what" is in general the fact that they're saying it's thin privilege to dress up in such a costume and not get mocked. Which is ridiculous.

Everything you said is the whole point I posted it.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 06, 2013, 10:54:46 pm
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I-- what?
She's saying she went to a "Slutty Halloween Party" and got dissed for not being slutty enough, but she wore it because she feels she's fat and was afraid of getting dissed if she went in something more slutty. I have a feeling this girl might actually be anorexic, not fat. I don't quite see the male privilege or slut shaming, since it was really shaming her for not being slutty and, as far as I know, it's woman-on-woman.

I know what she's saying and I'm saying it makes no sense to go to a party you know you won't like going to. And the "I-- what" is in general the fact that they're saying it's thin privilege to dress up in such a costume and not get mocked. Which is ridiculous.

Everything you said is the whole point I posted it.
Oh, okay. I think I can safely say my ability to interpret meaning and emotion in text is rather bad. And, yeah, it is rather stupid. The only thing I can think of to make it make sense is a friend dragging her there.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 06, 2013, 11:07:38 pm
Yeah. If she knew the type of party logically she shouldn't have gone. Unless she wanted to prove some kind of point. Which is doubtful.

None of it is thin privilege anyhow. I'm sure a thin person in a lion costume would get mocked just as much.

So, some chick posted this:

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And in response, a bunch of wankers sent her these messages:

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Why? Because apparently, she's fetishizing Japan by wanting to visit it or something.

I can't wait until someone gets onto me for reblogging or posting something innocuous like that. It'll be fun.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Art Vandelay on July 06, 2013, 11:27:31 pm
I can't wait until someone gets onto me for reblogging or posting something innocuous like that. It'll be fun.
Just say you like wolves or something like that. If you're lucky, you'll get a bunch of hysterical knob-ends screaming at you for "appropriating otherkin/therian/whatever culture" or some shit. It may take a few tries, admittedly, but it'd be so worth it.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 06, 2013, 11:33:11 pm
I can't wait until someone gets onto me for reblogging or posting something innocuous like that. It'll be fun.
Just say you like wolves or something like that. If you're lucky, you'll get a bunch of hysterical knob-ends screaming at you for "appropriating otherkin/therian/whatever culture" or some shit. It may take a few tries, admittedly, but it'd be so worth it.
Even easier, just post a drawing of a humanoid wolf.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 06, 2013, 11:39:17 pm
I can't wait until someone gets onto me for reblogging or posting something innocuous like that. It'll be fun.
Just say you like wolves or something like that. If you're lucky, you'll get a bunch of hysterical knob-ends screaming at you for "appropriating otherkin/therian/whatever culture" or some shit. It may take a few tries, admittedly, but it'd be so worth it.
Even easier, just post a drawing of a humanoid wolf.

I already reblog/post wolves with the tag 'my spirit animal' and have done so for a solid year, still nothing.

If they're gonna yell at me for appropriating, it would be for that, not therian/furry/otherkin.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 07, 2013, 01:53:35 am
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Walking around campus today and this guy was obviously staring at my tits. I walked up to him and spit in his fucking ugly ass face and then just walked off while he cursed and whined about his precious male “personal space."

Oh and you can be sure he spewed a few slurs at me, that’s all men fucking do it seems.

Anyway, it felt amazing to finally just do something I’ve been wanting to do ever since I realized men are disgusting pervs.


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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 07, 2013, 01:55:55 am
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Walking around campus today and this guy was obviously staring at my tits. I walked up to him and spit in his fucking ugly ass face and then just walked off while he cursed and whined about his precious male “personal space."

Oh and you can be sure he spewed a few slurs at me, that’s all men fucking do it seems.

Anyway, it felt amazing to finally just do something I’ve been wanting to do ever since I realized men are disgusting pervs.


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You know in some states spitting at/on someone is considered assault.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Søren on July 07, 2013, 02:04:49 am
I found the queer fetishizing tag in tumblr. Its awesome, just tons of weirdos screaming incoherently about shipping in fandoms.

I understand the concept and how its a little ugly. But holy hell its fucking shipping. If youre gonna bitch about queer fetishisation direct it to somewhere with less crazy and has an actual iota of importance.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 07, 2013, 02:09:04 am
I found the queer fetishizing tag in tumblr. Its awesome, just tons of weirdos screaming incoherently about shipping in fandoms.

I understand the concept and how its a little ugly. But holy hell its fucking shipping. If youre gonna bitch about queer fetishisation direct it to somewhere with...less...crazy
And, side note, why bitch about it? If people are fetishising it, it means they accept it. Be glad you have supporters. And, what about the gays and bisexuals that ship gay or bisexual ships? Are they fetishising themselves? Does that mean they can use a mirror as a masturbation aid?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Søren on July 07, 2013, 02:12:09 am
Heres a good example

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This is rampant in the Sherlock fandom (ew I can’t believe I actually typed that out), where teenage cishet white girls take avid part in the queer fetishization of two (racist and misogynistic) male characters and use them as the fodder of their sexual fantasies. If you equate an entire community, sexuality and gender identity, a person with feelings and thoughts, and just make it all about what gets you off, you are a QUEER FETISHIST. You are erasing the importance, identity, and humanity of a queer person and community for the sake of your sex drive. If you consider the relationship of two fictional characters that you ship together more important than the abuse, assault, rape, oppression, and queerphobia that the queer community experiences, you are terrible fucking person. That is queerphobic. I hate you.

I can see their point, but it dies in the WHARGARBL and the concept that fanfiction and shipping actually matter.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 07, 2013, 02:16:51 am
Heres a good example

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This is rampant in the Sherlock fandom (ew I can’t believe I actually typed that out), where teenage cishet white girls take avid part in the queer fetishization of two (racist and misogynistic) male characters and use them as the fodder of their sexual fantasies. If you equate an entire community, sexuality and gender identity, a person with feelings and thoughts, and just make it all about what gets you off, you are a QUEER FETISHIST. You are erasing the importance, identity, and humanity of a queer person and community for the sake of your sex drive. If you consider the relationship of two fictional characters that you ship together more important than the abuse, assault, rape, oppression, and queerphobia that the queer community experiences, you are terrible fucking person. That is queerphobic. I hate you.

I can see their point, but it dies because they think fanfiction actually matters
Their point dies at "Sherlock fandom". The show intentionally teases John/Sherlock so much that it's practically canon. Hell, Moffat said they're a romantic, but non-sexual, couple in one of the interviews. They're fucking canon, you idiot (not you, Hofstadter's Tortoise, the whiner person you quoted). And, they don't consider it "more important", nor are they just doing it to get off. I've seen plenty of shipping fics. Many are romance stories. Hell, the ones I write are romance stories (I actually like romance fanfic more than smut, by the way). But, there's no way it's homophobic. You can't love gay people and be a homophobe.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Søren on July 07, 2013, 02:20:53 am
Heres a good post in the huge trashpile of that tag

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To me queer fetishization has always been the tokenism we see in the vast majority of commercial media narratives: the Sassy Gay Friend, the sexless B plot, the punchline, the committed couple that get to hug on screen but don’t get to kiss. To me, queer fetishization is the moment where a person talks about how hot same-sex porn is, but then don’t want their gay neighbor to be able to get married. To me, queer fetishization is the gaggle of straight people that come to the gay bar to drink and dance, but are petrified of being hit on by any queer people that might just happen to be there.

I’m not offended by straight people writing queer characters or narratives in which a romance between two queer characters is what drives the story. I think many mistakes can be made in characterization of both individuals and culture and I think privilege can preclude writers from fully grasping certain situations. But, in my experience, more often than not, amazing narratives come from amazing writers who care and pay attention to detail, whatever their sexual identity is, wherever they come from.

See, this is a good argument and actually touches on the big picture, not stupid little fanfictions
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 07, 2013, 02:34:53 am
Heres a good post in the huge trashpile of that tag

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To me queer fetishization has always been the tokenism we see in the vast majority of commercial media narratives: the Sassy Gay Friend, the sexless B plot, the punchline, the committed couple that get to hug on screen but don’t get to kiss. To me, queer fetishization is the moment where a person talks about how hot same-sex porn is, but then don’t want their gay neighbor to be able to get married. To me, queer fetishization is the gaggle of straight people that come to the gay bar to drink and dance, but are petrified of being hit on by any queer people that might just happen to be there.

I’m not offended by straight people writing queer characters or narratives in which a romance between two queer characters is what drives the story. I think many mistakes can be made in characterization of both individuals and culture and I think privilege can preclude writers from fully grasping certain situations. But, in my experience, more often than not, amazing narratives come from amazing writers who care and pay attention to detail, whatever their sexual identity is, wherever they come from.

See, this is a good argument and actually touches on the big picture, not stupid little fanfictions
Now, that one is much more sane. While I don't agree with "the Sassy Gay Friend, the sexless B plot, the punchline, the committed couple that get to hug on screen but don’t get to kiss" as fetishization, the rest is true, and that kind of stuff is still bad. I still think Willow/Tara on Buffy The Vampire Slayer was the best written gay couple in television, and that Glee should be burnt because it's just insulting to gays. This one gets to the point of things, and isn't written by a total idiot.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Askold on July 07, 2013, 03:04:05 am
Heres a good post in the huge trashpile of that tag

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To me queer fetishization has always been the tokenism we see in the vast majority of commercial media narratives: the Sassy Gay Friend, the sexless B plot, the punchline, the committed couple that get to hug on screen but don’t get to kiss. To me, queer fetishization is the moment where a person talks about how hot same-sex porn is, but then don’t want their gay neighbor to be able to get married. To me, queer fetishization is the gaggle of straight people that come to the gay bar to drink and dance, but are petrified of being hit on by any queer people that might just happen to be there.

I’m not offended by straight people writing queer characters or narratives in which a romance between two queer characters is what drives the story. I think many mistakes can be made in characterization of both individuals and culture and I think privilege can preclude writers from fully grasping certain situations. But, in my experience, more often than not, amazing narratives come from amazing writers who care and pay attention to detail, whatever their sexual identity is, wherever they come from.

See, this is a good argument and actually touches on the big picture, not stupid little fanfictions
Now, that one is much more sane. While I don't agree with "the Sassy Gay Friend, the sexless B plot, the punchline, the committed couple that get to hug on screen but don’t get to kiss" as fetishization, the rest is true, and that kind of stuff is still bad. I still think Willow/Tara on Buffy The Vampire Slayer was the best written gay couple in television, and that Glee should be burnt because it's just insulting to gays. This one gets to the point of things, and isn't written by a total idiot.


I think I can agree with everything except the "straight people go into gay bar for dance and drinks but don't want to get hit on" part. I mean straight people go to straigth bars for dance and drink as well and not all of them want to be hit on. And even if they are looking for "action" it does not mean that they would want to return the advances of just anyone.

In fact people regardless of their sexual orientation or location have no obligation to return the advances of anyone who wants to hit on them. People still have the right to decide who they want to get intimate with. If a lesbian woman is in a bar just to have drinks with her friends and a random drunken guy tries to get in her pants... Well, you wouldn't be amazed if she doesn't respond well to that.

Still, I agree with most of that post. I am particulalry still amazed that some of the same people who (openly) drool over lesbian porn suddenly claim that same sex marriage is so utterly immoral and deprived that it cannot be allowed...
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 07, 2013, 03:13:35 am
Heres a good post in the huge trashpile of that tag

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To me queer fetishization has always been the tokenism we see in the vast majority of commercial media narratives: the Sassy Gay Friend, the sexless B plot, the punchline, the committed couple that get to hug on screen but don’t get to kiss. To me, queer fetishization is the moment where a person talks about how hot same-sex porn is, but then don’t want their gay neighbor to be able to get married. To me, queer fetishization is the gaggle of straight people that come to the gay bar to drink and dance, but are petrified of being hit on by any queer people that might just happen to be there.

I’m not offended by straight people writing queer characters or narratives in which a romance between two queer characters is what drives the story. I think many mistakes can be made in characterization of both individuals and culture and I think privilege can preclude writers from fully grasping certain situations. But, in my experience, more often than not, amazing narratives come from amazing writers who care and pay attention to detail, whatever their sexual identity is, wherever they come from.

See, this is a good argument and actually touches on the big picture, not stupid little fanfictions
Now, that one is much more sane. While I don't agree with "the Sassy Gay Friend, the sexless B plot, the punchline, the committed couple that get to hug on screen but don’t get to kiss" as fetishization, the rest is true, and that kind of stuff is still bad. I still think Willow/Tara on Buffy The Vampire Slayer was the best written gay couple in television, and that Glee should be burnt because it's just insulting to gays. This one gets to the point of things, and isn't written by a total idiot.


I think I can agree with everything except the "straight people go into gay bar for dance and drinks but don't want to get hit on" part. I mean straight people go to straigth bars for dance and drink as well and not all of them want to be hit on. And even if they are looking for "action" it does not mean that they would want to return the advances of just anyone.

In fact people regardless of their sexual orientation or location have no obligation to return the advances of anyone who wants to hit on them. People still have the right to decide who they want to get intimate with. If a lesbian woman is in a bar just to have drinks with her friends and a random drunken guy tries to get in her pants... Well, you wouldn't be amazed if she doesn't respond well to that.

Still, I agree with most of that post. I am particulalry still amazed that some of the same people who (openly) drool over lesbian porn suddenly claim that same sex marriage is so utterly immoral and deprived that it cannot be allowed...
True, but those kind of situations are not what they're speaking of. They are speaking of straight people who do not want any gay people to hit on them in a gay bar.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Askold on July 07, 2013, 03:47:04 am
Heres a good post in the huge trashpile of that tag

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To me queer fetishization has always been the tokenism we see in the vast majority of commercial media narratives: the Sassy Gay Friend, the sexless B plot, the punchline, the committed couple that get to hug on screen but don’t get to kiss. To me, queer fetishization is the moment where a person talks about how hot same-sex porn is, but then don’t want their gay neighbor to be able to get married. To me, queer fetishization is the gaggle of straight people that come to the gay bar to drink and dance, but are petrified of being hit on by any queer people that might just happen to be there.

I’m not offended by straight people writing queer characters or narratives in which a romance between two queer characters is what drives the story. I think many mistakes can be made in characterization of both individuals and culture and I think privilege can preclude writers from fully grasping certain situations. But, in my experience, more often than not, amazing narratives come from amazing writers who care and pay attention to detail, whatever their sexual identity is, wherever they come from.

See, this is a good argument and actually touches on the big picture, not stupid little fanfictions
Now, that one is much more sane. While I don't agree with "the Sassy Gay Friend, the sexless B plot, the punchline, the committed couple that get to hug on screen but don’t get to kiss" as fetishization, the rest is true, and that kind of stuff is still bad. I still think Willow/Tara on Buffy The Vampire Slayer was the best written gay couple in television, and that Glee should be burnt because it's just insulting to gays. This one gets to the point of things, and isn't written by a total idiot.


I think I can agree with everything except the "straight people go into gay bar for dance and drinks but don't want to get hit on" part. I mean straight people go to straigth bars for dance and drink as well and not all of them want to be hit on. And even if they are looking for "action" it does not mean that they would want to return the advances of just anyone.

In fact people regardless of their sexual orientation or location have no obligation to return the advances of anyone who wants to hit on them. People still have the right to decide who they want to get intimate with. If a lesbian woman is in a bar just to have drinks with her friends and a random drunken guy tries to get in her pants... Well, you wouldn't be amazed if she doesn't respond well to that.

Still, I agree with most of that post. I am particulalry still amazed that some of the same people who (openly) drool over lesbian porn suddenly claim that same sex marriage is so utterly immoral and deprived that it cannot be allowed...
True, but those kind of situations are not what they're speaking of. They are speaking of straight people who do not want any gay people to hit on them in a gay bar.
And that is different because?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 07, 2013, 03:49:49 am
Because GAYZ
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 07, 2013, 03:50:41 am
Heres a good post in the huge trashpile of that tag

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To me queer fetishization has always been the tokenism we see in the vast majority of commercial media narratives: the Sassy Gay Friend, the sexless B plot, the punchline, the committed couple that get to hug on screen but don’t get to kiss. To me, queer fetishization is the moment where a person talks about how hot same-sex porn is, but then don’t want their gay neighbor to be able to get married. To me, queer fetishization is the gaggle of straight people that come to the gay bar to drink and dance, but are petrified of being hit on by any queer people that might just happen to be there.

I’m not offended by straight people writing queer characters or narratives in which a romance between two queer characters is what drives the story. I think many mistakes can be made in characterization of both individuals and culture and I think privilege can preclude writers from fully grasping certain situations. But, in my experience, more often than not, amazing narratives come from amazing writers who care and pay attention to detail, whatever their sexual identity is, wherever they come from.

See, this is a good argument and actually touches on the big picture, not stupid little fanfictions
Now, that one is much more sane. While I don't agree with "the Sassy Gay Friend, the sexless B plot, the punchline, the committed couple that get to hug on screen but don’t get to kiss" as fetishization, the rest is true, and that kind of stuff is still bad. I still think Willow/Tara on Buffy The Vampire Slayer was the best written gay couple in television, and that Glee should be burnt because it's just insulting to gays. This one gets to the point of things, and isn't written by a total idiot.


I think I can agree with everything except the "straight people go into gay bar for dance and drinks but don't want to get hit on" part. I mean straight people go to straigth bars for dance and drink as well and not all of them want to be hit on. And even if they are looking for "action" it does not mean that they would want to return the advances of just anyone.

In fact people regardless of their sexual orientation or location have no obligation to return the advances of anyone who wants to hit on them. People still have the right to decide who they want to get intimate with. If a lesbian woman is in a bar just to have drinks with her friends and a random drunken guy tries to get in her pants... Well, you wouldn't be amazed if she doesn't respond well to that.

Still, I agree with most of that post. I am particulalry still amazed that some of the same people who (openly) drool over lesbian porn suddenly claim that same sex marriage is so utterly immoral and deprived that it cannot be allowed...
True, but those kind of situations are not what they're speaking of. They are speaking of straight people who do not want any gay people to hit on them in a gay bar.
And that is different because?
It's one thing to only want to be hit on people you're into. It's another to go to a gay bar and not want to be hit on by gay people. Gay bars exist for gay people. You know what you call a gay bar where there's tons of heterosexual flirting? A bar. If you don't want to get hit on by any gay people, do not go to a gay bar.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: LeTipex on July 07, 2013, 09:04:29 am
Heres a good post in the huge trashpile of that tag

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To me queer fetishization has always been the tokenism we see in the vast majority of commercial media narratives: the Sassy Gay Friend, the sexless B plot, the punchline, the committed couple that get to hug on screen but don’t get to kiss. To me, queer fetishization is the moment where a person talks about how hot same-sex porn is, but then don’t want their gay neighbor to be able to get married. To me, queer fetishization is the gaggle of straight people that come to the gay bar to drink and dance, but are petrified of being hit on by any queer people that might just happen to be there.

I’m not offended by straight people writing queer characters or narratives in which a romance between two queer characters is what drives the story. I think many mistakes can be made in characterization of both individuals and culture and I think privilege can preclude writers from fully grasping certain situations. But, in my experience, more often than not, amazing narratives come from amazing writers who care and pay attention to detail, whatever their sexual identity is, wherever they come from.

See, this is a good argument and actually touches on the big picture, not stupid little fanfictions
Now, that one is much more sane. While I don't agree with "the Sassy Gay Friend, the sexless B plot, the punchline, the committed couple that get to hug on screen but don’t get to kiss" as fetishization, the rest is true, and that kind of stuff is still bad. I still think Willow/Tara on Buffy The Vampire Slayer was the best written gay couple in television, and that Glee should be burnt because it's just insulting to gays. This one gets to the point of things, and isn't written by a total idiot.


I think I can agree with everything except the "straight people go into gay bar for dance and drinks but don't want to get hit on" part. I mean straight people go to straigth bars for dance and drink as well and not all of them want to be hit on. And even if they are looking for "action" it does not mean that they would want to return the advances of just anyone.

In fact people regardless of their sexual orientation or location have no obligation to return the advances of anyone who wants to hit on them. People still have the right to decide who they want to get intimate with. If a lesbian woman is in a bar just to have drinks with her friends and a random drunken guy tries to get in her pants... Well, you wouldn't be amazed if she doesn't respond well to that.

Still, I agree with most of that post. I am particulalry still amazed that some of the same people who (openly) drool over lesbian porn suddenly claim that same sex marriage is so utterly immoral and deprived that it cannot be allowed...
True, but those kind of situations are not what they're speaking of. They are speaking of straight people who do not want any gay people to hit on them in a gay bar.
And that is different because?
It's one thing to only want to be hit on people you're into. It's another to go to a gay bar and not want to be hit on by gay people. Gay bars exist for gay people. You know what you call a gay bar where there's tons of heterosexual flirting? A bar. If you don't want to get hit on by any gay people, do not go to a gay bar.
I think what he was trying to say was "Sometimes you go to a (not gay) bar without wanting to be hit on (by heterosexual people), and sometimes you go to a gay bar without wanting to be hit on (by gay people). You can go to a bar to drink and dance and not flirt, and the fact that it's a gay bar or not isn't the determining factor in that."

Which, as a bi guy, is something I can get behind. Sometimes you go out to score, and sometimes you go out to drink and do crazy stuff with your friends and don't want to be bothered by stranger. The fact that you're in a gay bar or not doesn't alway have to factor into that.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 07, 2013, 09:13:52 am
Heres a good post in the huge trashpile of that tag

Quote
To me queer fetishization has always been the tokenism we see in the vast majority of commercial media narratives: the Sassy Gay Friend, the sexless B plot, the punchline, the committed couple that get to hug on screen but don’t get to kiss. To me, queer fetishization is the moment where a person talks about how hot same-sex porn is, but then don’t want their gay neighbor to be able to get married. To me, queer fetishization is the gaggle of straight people that come to the gay bar to drink and dance, but are petrified of being hit on by any queer people that might just happen to be there.

I’m not offended by straight people writing queer characters or narratives in which a romance between two queer characters is what drives the story. I think many mistakes can be made in characterization of both individuals and culture and I think privilege can preclude writers from fully grasping certain situations. But, in my experience, more often than not, amazing narratives come from amazing writers who care and pay attention to detail, whatever their sexual identity is, wherever they come from.

See, this is a good argument and actually touches on the big picture, not stupid little fanfictions
Now, that one is much more sane. While I don't agree with "the Sassy Gay Friend, the sexless B plot, the punchline, the committed couple that get to hug on screen but don’t get to kiss" as fetishization, the rest is true, and that kind of stuff is still bad. I still think Willow/Tara on Buffy The Vampire Slayer was the best written gay couple in television, and that Glee should be burnt because it's just insulting to gays. This one gets to the point of things, and isn't written by a total idiot.


I think I can agree with everything except the "straight people go into gay bar for dance and drinks but don't want to get hit on" part. I mean straight people go to straigth bars for dance and drink as well and not all of them want to be hit on. And even if they are looking for "action" it does not mean that they would want to return the advances of just anyone.

In fact people regardless of their sexual orientation or location have no obligation to return the advances of anyone who wants to hit on them. People still have the right to decide who they want to get intimate with. If a lesbian woman is in a bar just to have drinks with her friends and a random drunken guy tries to get in her pants... Well, you wouldn't be amazed if she doesn't respond well to that.

Still, I agree with most of that post. I am particulalry still amazed that some of the same people who (openly) drool over lesbian porn suddenly claim that same sex marriage is so utterly immoral and deprived that it cannot be allowed...
True, but those kind of situations are not what they're speaking of. They are speaking of straight people who do not want any gay people to hit on them in a gay bar.
And that is different because?
It's one thing to only want to be hit on people you're into. It's another to go to a gay bar and not want to be hit on by gay people. Gay bars exist for gay people. You know what you call a gay bar where there's tons of heterosexual flirting? A bar. If you don't want to get hit on by any gay people, do not go to a gay bar.
I think what he was trying to say was "Sometimes you go to a (not gay) bar without wanting to be hit on (by heterosexual people), and sometimes you go to a gay bar without wanting to be hit on (by gay people). You can go to a bar to drink and dance and not flirt, and the fact that it's a gay bar or not isn't the determining factor in that."

Which, as a bi guy, is something I can get behind. Sometimes you go out to score, and sometimes you go out to drink and do crazy stuff with your friends and don't want to be bothered by stranger. The fact that you're in a gay bar or not doesn't alway have to factor into that.
Ahh, I was seeing it as more of a "Not wanting to be hit on by gay people because they're gay, even though you're at a gay bar". As in, not caring if you get hit on by straight people (whether you are looking to score or not), but not wanting gay people to hit on you in a gay bar.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: wrightway on July 07, 2013, 10:31:27 am
A head exploding tag on tumblr is "queer baiting." It's used a mind numbing amount in the Community fandom, usually with the trobed tag. Queer baiting is when a show implies two characters of the same sex are romantically attracted, but then gives them heteronormative romances and storylines. I've seen shippers say that if Troy and Abed don't hook up then the show is erasing queer identities. I want to ask them how they even begin to reach this conclusion.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 07, 2013, 10:50:02 am
A head exploding tag on tumblr is "queer baiting." It's used a mind numbing amount in the Community fandom, usually with the trobed tag. Queer baiting is when a show implies two characters of the same sex are romantically attracted, but then gives them heteronormative romances and storylines. I've seen shippers say that if Troy and Abed don't hook up then the show is erasing queer identities. I want to ask them how they even begin to reach this conclusion.
It's pretty much shipping goggles with a bit of annoyance at the lack of well-written gay couples on television. Hopefully, we'll finally see one sooner or later on the S.H.I.E.L.D. TV show, since seemingly the only person who knew how to make good gay couples on American TV was Joss Whedon.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Meshakhad on July 07, 2013, 03:10:44 pm
A head exploding tag on tumblr is "queer baiting." It's used a mind numbing amount in the Community fandom, usually with the trobed tag. Queer baiting is when a show implies two characters of the same sex are romantically attracted, but then gives them heteronormative romances and storylines. I've seen shippers say that if Troy and Abed don't hook up then the show is erasing queer identities. I want to ask them how they even begin to reach this conclusion.
It's pretty much shipping goggles with a bit of annoyance at the lack of well-written gay couples on television. Hopefully, we'll finally see one sooner or later on the S.H.I.E.L.D. TV show, since seemingly the only person who knew how to make good gay couples on American TV was Joss Whedon.

Actually, Stargate Universe did a good job. In fact, the show almost had the message that where straight people are sex maniacs who can't keep it in their pants, gays never sleep around. Given that the straight characters had a sizable amount of relationship drama, while the one gay couple was steadfast.

Incidentally, the actress who played one of the gay characters on Stargate Universe, Ming-Na, is one of the regulars for Agents of SHIELD.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 07, 2013, 03:18:04 pm
A head exploding tag on tumblr is "queer baiting." It's used a mind numbing amount in the Community fandom, usually with the trobed tag. Queer baiting is when a show implies two characters of the same sex are romantically attracted, but then gives them heteronormative romances and storylines. I've seen shippers say that if Troy and Abed don't hook up then the show is erasing queer identities. I want to ask them how they even begin to reach this conclusion.
It's pretty much shipping goggles with a bit of annoyance at the lack of well-written gay couples on television. Hopefully, we'll finally see one sooner or later on the S.H.I.E.L.D. TV show, since seemingly the only person who knew how to make good gay couples on American TV was Joss Whedon.

Actually, Stargate Universe did a good job. In fact, the show almost had the message that where straight people are sex maniacs who can't keep it in their pants, gays never sleep around. Given that the straight characters had a sizable amount of relationship drama, while the one gay couple was steadfast.

Incidentally, the actress who played one of the gay characters on Stargate Universe, Ming-Na, is one of the regulars for Agents of SHIELD.
Cue crossover fanfiction in 3... 2... 1...
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Meshakhad on July 07, 2013, 03:27:24 pm
A head exploding tag on tumblr is "queer baiting." It's used a mind numbing amount in the Community fandom, usually with the trobed tag. Queer baiting is when a show implies two characters of the same sex are romantically attracted, but then gives them heteronormative romances and storylines. I've seen shippers say that if Troy and Abed don't hook up then the show is erasing queer identities. I want to ask them how they even begin to reach this conclusion.
It's pretty much shipping goggles with a bit of annoyance at the lack of well-written gay couples on television. Hopefully, we'll finally see one sooner or later on the S.H.I.E.L.D. TV show, since seemingly the only person who knew how to make good gay couples on American TV was Joss Whedon.

Actually, Stargate Universe did a good job. In fact, the show almost had the message that where straight people are sex maniacs who can't keep it in their pants, gays never sleep around. Given that the straight characters had a sizable amount of relationship drama, while the one gay couple was steadfast.

Incidentally, the actress who played one of the gay characters on Stargate Universe, Ming-Na, is one of the regulars for Agents of SHIELD.
Cue crossover fanfiction in 3... 2... 1...
Well, there's the minor issue of getting her character back to Earth. She's sorta stranded on the other side of the universe...
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Askold on July 07, 2013, 04:20:53 pm
A head exploding tag on tumblr is "queer baiting." It's used a mind numbing amount in the Community fandom, usually with the trobed tag. Queer baiting is when a show implies two characters of the same sex are romantically attracted, but then gives them heteronormative romances and storylines. I've seen shippers say that if Troy and Abed don't hook up then the show is erasing queer identities. I want to ask them how they even begin to reach this conclusion.
It's pretty much shipping goggles with a bit of annoyance at the lack of well-written gay couples on television. Hopefully, we'll finally see one sooner or later on the S.H.I.E.L.D. TV show, since seemingly the only person who knew how to make good gay couples on American TV was Joss Whedon.

Actually, Stargate Universe did a good job. In fact, the show almost had the message that where straight people are sex maniacs who can't keep it in their pants, gays never sleep around. Given that the straight characters had a sizable amount of relationship drama, while the one gay couple was steadfast.

Incidentally, the actress who played one of the gay characters on Stargate Universe, Ming-Na, is one of the regulars for Agents of SHIELD.
Cue crossover fanfiction in 3... 2... 1...
Well, there's the minor issue of getting her character back to Earth. She's sorta stranded on the other side of the universe...

Dude. Fan-fiction has ultra-MarySue characters that usually have incredibly ridiculous and cheesy backgrounds. Bringing someone from one side of the universe to the other in a scifi setting which has instantaneous travel between portals that are several light years from another isn't an issue. It's the basis of the series.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: wrightway on July 07, 2013, 04:22:18 pm
A head exploding tag on tumblr is "queer baiting." It's used a mind numbing amount in the Community fandom, usually with the trobed tag. Queer baiting is when a show implies two characters of the same sex are romantically attracted, but then gives them heteronormative romances and storylines. I've seen shippers say that if Troy and Abed don't hook up then the show is erasing queer identities. I want to ask them how they even begin to reach this conclusion.
It's pretty much shipping goggles with a bit of annoyance at the lack of well-written gay couples on television. Hopefully, we'll finally see one sooner or later on the S.H.I.E.L.D. TV show, since seemingly the only person who knew how to make good gay couples on American TV was Joss Whedon.

Here's hoping Whedon pulls it off again.

And, I will admit, the Community fandom has a point. They gave both characters girlfriends in the fourth season after new show runners took over. Prior to that it was heavily implied everyone in universe believed them a couple. The "I love you" "I know" zombie episode from season two. Or the hand holding "We have something to tell everyone" episode in season three (it turned out they had become roommates).

I still am trying to figure out how it's erasing queer identities.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 07, 2013, 05:49:32 pm
A head exploding tag on tumblr is "queer baiting." It's used a mind numbing amount in the Community fandom, usually with the trobed tag. Queer baiting is when a show implies two characters of the same sex are romantically attracted, but then gives them heteronormative romances and storylines. I've seen shippers say that if Troy and Abed don't hook up then the show is erasing queer identities. I want to ask them how they even begin to reach this conclusion.
It's pretty much shipping goggles with a bit of annoyance at the lack of well-written gay couples on television. Hopefully, we'll finally see one sooner or later on the S.H.I.E.L.D. TV show, since seemingly the only person who knew how to make good gay couples on American TV was Joss Whedon.

Here's hoping Whedon pulls it off again.

And, I will admit, the Community fandom has a point. They gave both characters girlfriends in the fourth season after new show runners took over. Prior to that it was heavily implied everyone in universe believed them a couple. The "I love you" "I know" zombie episode from season two. Or the hand holding "We have something to tell everyone" episode in season three (it turned out they had become roommates).

I still am trying to figure out how it's erasing queer identities.
That's actually pretty simple. These characters identify as gay. Then they're changed into straight.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 07, 2013, 05:59:52 pm
But did the characters actually identify as gay? There's a difference between a show mocking how two straight people act like a gay couple and a show actually turning two legitimately gay characters straight.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 07, 2013, 06:19:06 pm
But did the characters actually identify as gay? There's a difference between a show mocking how two straight people act like a gay couple and a show actually turning two legitimately gay characters straight.
It's heavily implied, like any other relationship that hasn't been outright stated but everyone can see. They did the typical buildup tease, but never delivered, which is wrong.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 07, 2013, 07:15:12 pm
But did the characters actually identify as gay? There's a difference between a show mocking how two straight people act like a gay couple and a show actually turning two legitimately gay characters straight.
It's heavily implied, like any other relationship that hasn't been outright stated but everyone can see. They did the typical buildup tease, but never delivered, which is wrong.

I think it was always meant to just be a running gag.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 07, 2013, 08:03:52 pm
Some running gags are meant to be tripped.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Søren on July 07, 2013, 08:17:04 pm
This is the beauty of implying a relationship but never dealing it out.

Since its implying, the queerbaiting goes into the imagination, and since its the imagination, its subjective and since its subjective its automatically bullshit. So its okay to "erase" the queerness.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: wrightway on July 07, 2013, 08:37:46 pm
But did the characters actually identify as gay? There's a difference between a show mocking how two straight people act like a gay couple and a show actually turning two legitimately gay characters straight.

Troy and Abed never self identified as gay. It was just very heavily implied. There are lists dedicated to all the "yeah, they're straight, uh huh" moments in the show because they're just so many of them.

Though, after thinking about it, I could see certain fans calling season four solely out for queer baiting. Some of the more obvious "guy love" moments happen after they've been given girlfriends. The second to last episode had a crazy quilt of destiny, it showed how their paths had crossed prior to the core seven characters becoming friends. Different characters start becoming mad because of the negative effect another group member had on their life. Shirley says someone ruined her marriage. Jeff claims it cost him his job. Troy's major complaint? Abed was out there somewhere and wasn't looking for him. Abed's girlfriend was also seen for exactly one episode and never mentioned again, as if she was just put there to drive home that the character is straight.

TL;DR I don't think it's erasing queer identity, but I see where some might think it.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 07, 2013, 09:09:03 pm
I don't agree that it's erasing queer identity.

But it sure as hell pisses me off, considering that most gay-centric movies/series tend to focus on the "alternative lifestyle" part of gay culture (and these are supposed to be PRO gay) and, apparently for all forms of media, we can't just have a normal story that happens to have a gay male lead.  Nope, it has to entirely revolve around his different sexuality.

For once I'd like to play an RPG where the male lead happens to fancy other men and this is treated exactly the same as any other romance subplot, aside from cultural implications.

Then again I'd like an RPG with a gay male lead period.  Or at least bisexual with a male option that wasn't raised in a prostitution environment.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 07, 2013, 09:14:39 pm
For once I'd like to play an RPG where the male lead happens to fancy other men and this is treated exactly the same as any other romance subplot, aside from cultural implications.

Then again I'd like an RPG with a gay male lead period.  Or at least bisexual with a male option that wasn't raised in a prostitution environment.

Ever play Bully? Not only does it include the option to make out with boys for health boosts (though fewer boys than girls, which is demographically appropriate), but these are high school age kids. And there's no references to the characters' sexuality beyond that, to the point where anyone who didn't look it up beforehand likely wouldn't know it was even an option without trying.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 07, 2013, 09:16:26 pm
Well Bully's not exactly RPG enough for me.  Though it is a game I've been curious about so... eh.

I've never played it, though
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 07, 2013, 09:18:47 pm
Well Bully's not exactly RPG enough for me.  Though it is a game I've been curious about so... eh.

I've never played it, though

I'd give it a try. It's old (even the HD re-release is still almost identical, but has some more bugs), but it's a very interesting game and a fun thing to play through. And it's got the usual Rockstar quality, including great voice acting.

And literally every single character is unique. It means the population of the school and town is smaller than normal, but there's no repetition of characters (though they may seem to teleport) and they don't generate generic NPCs to fill up space.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: LeTipex on July 07, 2013, 09:38:12 pm
For once I'd like to play an RPG where the male lead happens to fancy other men and this is treated exactly the same as any other romance subplot, aside from cultural implications.

Then again I'd like an RPG with a gay male lead period.  Or at least bisexual with a male option that wasn't raised in a prostitution environment.
Try Exalted. It's a pen and paper rpg, but it's a really LGTB-friendly one. To the point that one of the signature character in the new edition is a FTM lone rider swordsman. ^^
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Cerim Treascair on July 07, 2013, 09:38:39 pm
Bully can best be described as "GTA at a boarding school and the surrounding area"
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: wrightway on July 07, 2013, 09:39:37 pm
I don't agree that it's erasing queer identity.

But it sure as hell pisses me off, considering that most gay-centric movies/series tend to focus on the "alternative lifestyle" part of gay culture (and these are supposed to be PRO gay) and, apparently for all forms of media, we can't just have a normal story that happens to have a gay male lead.  Nope, it has to entirely revolve around his different sexuality.

For once I'd like to play an RPG where the male lead happens to fancy other men and this is treated exactly the same as any other romance subplot, aside from cultural implications.

Then again I'd like an RPG with a gay male lead period.  Or at least bisexual with a male option that wasn't raised in a prostitution environment.

There's hope, with Harmon back at the writers' table, that they'll resolve it in a better way.

Modern Family is doing the best job of portraying a normalish gay couple. Though there's still much to be desired. They're almost completely focused on their daughter and don't get much couple time.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 07, 2013, 11:06:35 pm
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Genderbitch defends necrophilia.

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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 07, 2013, 11:34:52 pm
While I agree that necrophilia isn't rape, desecration of the dead frequently goes hand-in-hand with other anti-social behaviors, including sex crimes against live people, violence, etc. Necrophiles who act on their fantasies generally aren't mentally stable people.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Meshakhad on July 08, 2013, 02:03:54 am
I don't agree that it's erasing queer identity.

But it sure as hell pisses me off, considering that most gay-centric movies/series tend to focus on the "alternative lifestyle" part of gay culture (and these are supposed to be PRO gay) and, apparently for all forms of media, we can't just have a normal story that happens to have a gay male lead.  Nope, it has to entirely revolve around his different sexuality.

For once I'd like to play an RPG where the male lead happens to fancy other men and this is treated exactly the same as any other romance subplot, aside from cultural implications.

Then again I'd like an RPG with a gay male lead period.  Or at least bisexual with a male option that wasn't raised in a prostitution environment.

How about Dragon Age? You can romance Zevran, Anders, or Fenris as a male. Mass Effect 3 went the next step and had a male character you can ONLY romance if you're male (Steve Cortez, the shuttle pilot).
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 08, 2013, 02:11:04 am
I don't agree that it's erasing queer identity.

But it sure as hell pisses me off, considering that most gay-centric movies/series tend to focus on the "alternative lifestyle" part of gay culture (and these are supposed to be PRO gay) and, apparently for all forms of media, we can't just have a normal story that happens to have a gay male lead.  Nope, it has to entirely revolve around his different sexuality.

For once I'd like to play an RPG where the male lead happens to fancy other men and this is treated exactly the same as any other romance subplot, aside from cultural implications.

Then again I'd like an RPG with a gay male lead period.  Or at least bisexual with a male option that wasn't raised in a prostitution environment.

How about Dragon Age? You can romance Zevran, Anders, or Fenris as a male. Mass Effect 3 went the next step and had a male character you can ONLY romance if you're male (Steve Cortez, the shuttle pilot).

I was actually talking about Dragon Age with the last sentence of my post there.  I'm not a fan of Zevran.

Dragon Age 2... Anders and Fenris are both good choices (I've even heard that Fenris was written specifically with a gay romance in mind) but I don't own Dragon Age 2.  I've played the demo, and I'm actually really sick of all the hate DA2 gets for being different from DA1 (even though, IMO, DA2's gameplay blows DA1's out of the water.  But then, people love DA1 because it reminds them of their precious Baldur's Gate series)
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 08, 2013, 06:38:58 am
Hrm. Mass Effect 3 also gives you Kaidan for a bisexual option. But man have I seen a lot of fetishizing homosexuals come from MShenko.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Sylvana on July 08, 2013, 07:22:54 am
Hrm. Mass Effect 3 also gives you Kaidan for a bisexual option. But man have I seen a lot of fetishizing homosexuals come from MShenko.

I wonder if I am the only person who is mildly pissed that Kaidan went from being a military veteran with a pessimistic understanding to how the world works into being a whiny overly emotional looser in the 3rd game.

I got the feeling that was for the new bi-sexual relationship options, but it was a serious turn off for me as a female player. It left me feeling like they were going for the effeminate gay stereotype and it bugged me.

Of course I could have misinterpreted it.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 08, 2013, 08:55:55 am
Hrm. Mass Effect 3 also gives you Kaidan for a bisexual option. But man have I seen a lot of fetishizing homosexuals come from MShenko.

I wonder if I am the only person who is mildly pissed that Kaidan went from being a military veteran with a pessimistic understanding to how the world works into being a whiny overly emotional looser in the 3rd game.

I got the feeling that was for the new bi-sexual relationship options, but it was a serious turn off for me as a female player. It left me feeling like they were going for the effeminate gay stereotype and it bugged me.

Of course I could have misinterpreted it.

I wouldn't know. Commander Shane Shepard lost Kaidan Alenko on Virmire and has never been interested in him as a romance option anyways. I do know that Kaidan walks all over femshep and she just takes it from him! Whereas mshep can deny everything where femshep can't.

I will always hate Bioware for not letting me have this:

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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Askold on July 08, 2013, 09:32:16 am
Hrm. Mass Effect 3 also gives you Kaidan for a bisexual option. But man have I seen a lot of fetishizing homosexuals come from MShenko.

I wonder if I am the only person who is mildly pissed that Kaidan went from being a military veteran with a pessimistic understanding to how the world works into being a whiny overly emotional looser in the 3rd game.

I got the feeling that was for the new bi-sexual relationship options, but it was a serious turn off for me as a female player. It left me feeling like they were going for the effeminate gay stereotype and it bugged me.

Of course I could have misinterpreted it.

I wouldn't know. Commander Shane Shepard lost Kaidan Alenko on Virmire and has never been interested in him as a romance option anyways. I do know that Kaidan walks all over femshep and she just takes it from him! Whereas mshep can deny everything where femshep can't.

I will always hate Bioware for not letting me have this:

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And I'm a bit miffed that they never thought of this:
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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 08, 2013, 10:14:36 am
Polyamory is available in Dragon Age depending on how you play it.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: wrightway on July 08, 2013, 11:46:40 am
Sims has always had a gay option.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 08, 2013, 12:36:49 pm
Skyrim has gay and lesbian options.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Meshakhad on July 08, 2013, 01:26:49 pm
As does Fable.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Distind on July 08, 2013, 01:34:53 pm
As does Fable.
Playing back through the fable games(all of them because I have no attention span) and god damn does fable cover lots of shit. I had someone who was 'Transvestite appreciative' following around one of my female characters for a while. I've pretty much gotten to the point I check NPC details just to amuse myself in the stranger areas.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 08, 2013, 03:02:05 pm
Ironically, I actually consider Skyrim's gay options to be the best in the gaming community so far simply because the game's like

"Are they marriable?  Okay, we're just going to completely ignore everyone's gender in this and play it as gender neutral as possible!"

Gotta say one thing about Nords, they may have a lot of racists, and they may be superstitious about magic (despite once being great with it) but they are pretty progressive about gender equality.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 08, 2013, 03:03:16 pm
Ironically, I actually consider Skyrim's gay options to be the best in the gaming community so far simply because the game's like

"Are they marriable?  Okay, we're just going to completely ignore everyone's gender in this and play it as gender neutral as possible!"

Gotta say one thing about Nords, they may have a lot of racists, and they may be superstitious about magic (despite once being great with it) but they are pretty progressive about gender equality.
As the game says, there's little time for sexism or homophobia in Skyrim. You're too busy not dying.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 08, 2013, 05:34:20 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/552c439486a2d34ba0c018bfc99840d7/tumblr_mph3o9KLla1ryeto5o1_1280.png)

Okay, so perhaps this does say something about society's unfortunate views on body type, but comparing killing a Sim with wanting actual human beings dead is pretty ridiculous.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 08, 2013, 05:43:20 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/552c439486a2d34ba0c018bfc99840d7/tumblr_mph3o9KLla1ryeto5o1_1280.png)

Okay, so perhaps this does say something about society's unfortunate views on body type, but comparing killing a Sim with wanting actual human beings dead is pretty ridiculous.

My goddess half of tumblr are psychopaths.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 08, 2013, 06:03:53 pm
Said person probably plays violent RPGs and sandbox games like Grand Theft Auto while violently splattering the brains of anyone who gets in their way without a single pause.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: niam2023 on July 08, 2013, 07:09:13 pm
CRY. CRY AND FUME.

I DRINK YOUR TEARS.

Seriously, though, its just a game. I like making my Sims suffer as much as humanly possible, but that's because I am a cruel bastard.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 08, 2013, 09:35:22 pm
Still, I get the poster's point. If they had instead wanted to get rid of, say, a black Sim for being black, we'd find that friggin creepy.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 08, 2013, 09:36:07 pm
Could've made the point without all the hyperbole, tho. Here's something rather mild in the topic of SJW:

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/9b436758d4a4f59ebfa6fa437b8d3858/tumblr_mpl3fcaP7V1spc06no1_500.jpg)
"Blatant racism (apartheid) and misogyny"

All the ad is doing is comparing the 1950s to now when it comes to Denny's and how people dress between then and now. If anything, the ad is pretty progressive. It's meant to be an ad about a dad and his son. And there's no racism. The 1950s just happened to have ads like on the left. They were everywhere. It was the 50s for goddess's sake!
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 08, 2013, 10:10:16 pm
Also, the guy on the right reminds me less of a minority and more of Greg Grunberg.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 08, 2013, 10:44:47 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/3a787a2dccbe843b4a71ba87c8b1ea39/tumblr_mp0v6u7DKO1r2qpyoo1_400.png)

I like how they claim that one POC cannot speak for all POC while they're trying to speak for all POC.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 08, 2013, 10:57:17 pm
"This is a no whites zone!"
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 08, 2013, 11:06:50 pm
POCstuck? Are they talking about POC fanart for Homestuck?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 08, 2013, 11:52:59 pm
POCstuck? Are they talking about POC fanart for Homestuck?

Basically...
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Yla on July 09, 2013, 07:49:02 am
(even though, IMO, DA2's gameplay blows DA1's out of the water.  But then, people love DA1 because it reminds them of their precious Baldur's Gate series)
DA2 gameplay sucks balls. Half of the fights are too easy, the other half too hard, so I need to go to options every time and screw with the difficulty slider. The enemy reinforcements are annoying and I still fail to see how they're anything other than padding. DA1 was only starting to stretch my SOD about the number of enemies, but Hawke slaughters an entire division of street thugs every time they go and fetch an old lady's groceries.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: RavynousHunter on July 09, 2013, 08:06:09 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/552c439486a2d34ba0c018bfc99840d7/tumblr_mph3o9KLla1ryeto5o1_1280.png)

Okay, so perhaps this does say something about society's unfortunate views on body type, but comparing killing a Sim with wanting actual human beings dead is pretty ridiculous.

Not to mention the fact that most, if not all, people who play or have played the Sims at one point or another have, in fact, either conducted horrible experiments on them or killed them in some grisly manner.  I'd be more surprised if the people in question HADN'T killed any Sims.

That's like playing Minecraft and never once playing with TNT!
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Art Vandelay on July 09, 2013, 01:07:19 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/3a787a2dccbe843b4a71ba87c8b1ea39/tumblr_mp0v6u7DKO1r2qpyoo1_400.png)

I like how they claim that one POC cannot speak for all POC while they're trying to speak for all POC.
"POC" has to be one of the most obnoxious initialisations the social justice twats have ever managed to come up with.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: LeTipex on July 09, 2013, 02:33:48 pm
"POC" has to be one of the most obnoxious initialisations the social justice twats have ever managed to come up with.
Indeed. It destroys every nuance of racial diversity to replace it with a horrible false dichotomy of "White vs POC"
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: anti-nonsense on July 09, 2013, 02:43:05 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/552c439486a2d34ba0c018bfc99840d7/tumblr_mph3o9KLla1ryeto5o1_1280.png)

Okay, so perhaps this does say something about society's unfortunate views on body type, but comparing killing a Sim with wanting actual human beings dead is pretty ridiculous.

Not to mention the fact that most, if not all, people who play or have played the Sims at one point or another have, in fact, either conducted horrible experiments on them or killed them in some grisly manner.  I'd be more surprised if the people in question HADN'T killed any Sims.

That's like playing Minecraft and never once playing with TNT!

I killed a nanny for causing a toddler to pee himself after he was already potty trained one time. Yeah, there are very very few sims players that haven't killed a sim, at least occasionally.

And how do you miss the fact that a sim is pregnant anyway? That's pretty dumb, as it is really obvious that they are pregnant, in The Sims 3 they get a moodlet icon that notes the pregnancy and everything. 

But yeah, another so called social justice warrior making a mountain out of a molehill.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: wrightway on July 09, 2013, 02:47:47 pm
"POC" has to be one of the most obnoxious initialisations the social justice twats have ever managed to come up with.
Indeed. It destroys every nuance of racial diversity to replace it with a horrible false dichotomy of "White vs POC"

Erasure of queer identity irks me more. If someone is telling an LGB they have to be straight they are attempting to erase that person's identity. If a trans is being told they can't be X because they have Y that's trying to erase their identity. Anything else comes off as "us vs them" whining that is likely to irritate people who otherwise would have agreed with you.

Don't get me wrong, POC is still confusing and off putting.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 09, 2013, 02:56:36 pm
What's really irritating is that a lot of these SJWs insist that "person of colour" is the only acceptable term, even though it's considered anywhere from pretentious to downright offensive in nearly every region outside of the US.

Then again, these people are infamous for their Americentrism.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: wrightway on July 09, 2013, 03:03:53 pm
Mlle, you are often a bastion of eloquence. It must be the Canadian in you.

How does POC work in countries where being Caucasian would make you the POC?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Askold on July 09, 2013, 03:05:30 pm
What's really irritating is that a lot of these SJWs insist that "person of colour" is the only acceptable term, even though it's considered anywhere from pretentious to downright offensive in nearly every region outside of the US.

Then again, these people are infamous for their Americentrism.


I find it hilarious that the same people who claim to fight for equality and kittens and all that is good are sometimes so ignorant and bigoted.

Again, it's not all SJW's just some of them, but the bad ones really are just a mirror image of the right-wing Teatards and racist fuckwits. All are 100% certain that they are right, will never concider that people who disagree with them might have some reason or justification for it and they only see things in black and white, showing hostility to anything that does not perfectly fit into their world view.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 09, 2013, 03:20:53 pm
What's really irritating is that a lot of these SJWs insist that "person of colour" is the only acceptable term, even though it's considered anywhere from pretentious to downright offensive in nearly every region outside of the US.

Then again, these people are infamous for their Americentrism.

It ends up implying that the world has all of these wonderful, diverse, colorful communities......and then the white people on the other side.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 09, 2013, 10:49:18 pm
I've never killed any of my sims. But that's because the DS version is boring as shit and doesn't give you that option.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: RavynousHunter on July 10, 2013, 08:20:55 am
There's a version of the Sims without death?!  WHAT HERESY IS THIS?!  Clearly, someone needs to be kicked in the nuts/vagina for that particularly brilliant decision.

Also, I thought "person of colour" went out in, like...the 70s or so, maybe even earlier.  I really don't get why they have their panties in a twist over me, for example, calling a black person black or an Asian an Asian.  Fuck, I'm the ONLY white guy in the place into which I'm moving, and I'm all but certain all of them, even the nice Sunday school teacher or minister or whatever he is, would be downright offended if I called him a person of colour.

Ya know, thinking on it, I find it absolutely uproarious that they don't see that "person of colour" is more identity-erasing than many of the worst racial epithets one could use.  At least they acknowledge that one person is black, another is Italian, and that dude over there is Asian.  Its ironic when your chosen PC term is actually MORE offensive than a racial slur.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 10, 2013, 09:32:10 am
Out? As in, it started? It was used during MLK's day.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: RavynousHunter on July 10, 2013, 10:26:19 am
Out? As in, it started? It was used during MLK's day.
Nonono, as in it stopped being generally used.  Kinda like how you don't hear people using the term "humbug" nowadays.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 10, 2013, 10:27:51 am
I dunno, doing a search says it's been in continuous use since the 70s and 80s but not widely used, admittedly.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: wrightway on July 10, 2013, 10:31:39 am
An aquaitance on Facebook let me know I was shaming the LGBT community because I was pregnant again. Apparently if I'm going to keep having babies I might as well dub myself a brainless breeder and be done with it.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 10, 2013, 12:22:01 pm
Out? As in, it started? It was used during MLK's day.
Nonono, as in it stopped being generally used.  Kinda like how you don't hear people using the term "humbug" nowadays.

From the Wikipedia article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Person_of_color) on the term:

Quote
Although the term citizens of color was used by Martin Luther King, Jr. in 1963, and other uses date to as early as 1793, people of color did not gain prominence for many years.[6][7] Influenced by radical theorists like Frantz Fanon, racial justice activists in the U.S. began to use the term people of color in the late 1970s and early 1980s. By the late 1980s and early 1990s, it was in wide circulation.[8] Both anti-racist activists and academics sought to move understandings of race beyond the black-white binary then prevalent.[9]
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 10, 2013, 02:25:03 pm
An aquaitance on Facebook let me know I was shaming the LGBT community because I was pregnant again. Apparently if I'm going to keep having babies I might as well dub myself a brainless breeder and be done with it.
That person is an idiot.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Meshakhad on July 10, 2013, 02:36:11 pm
An aquaitance on Facebook let me know I was shaming the LGBT community because I was pregnant again. Apparently if I'm going to keep having babies I might as well dub myself a brainless breeder and be done with it.

Find this person and remove their genitals with a rusty knife.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 10, 2013, 03:40:35 pm
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The weirdest thing to me is the profile pic looks pretty attractive, and yet she's claiming it's a dig at her.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/1f9f0ee6e8c6bcb8f5c4e6bacc77b422/tumblr_mpf37gcikB1ryeto5o1_1280.png)

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I'm five-foot-six and 180 pounds, and no it fucking isn't.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 10, 2013, 03:51:59 pm
I'm shorter and heavier, and no it isn't. </echo>

I can't think of anyone short of the morbidly obese (by which I mean the HUGE people who are either more sedentary than I am or have genetic disorders) who could possibly think that a pint of ice cream is snack sized.

...And those with extremely high metabolisms to where they need to eat eight meals a day or starve.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 10, 2013, 04:05:14 pm
I'm shorter and heavier, and no it isn't. </echo>

I can't think of anyone short of the morbidly obese (by which I mean the HUGE people who are either more sedentary than I am or have genetic disorders) who could possibly think that a pint of ice cream is snack sized.

...And those with extremely high metabolisms to where they need to eat eight meals a day or starve.
Even people with insanely high metabolisms don't need that much (and I know two girls who can either go all day without food sometimes or other days eat five meals and literally multiple jars of Nutella and not gain weight, but they are a cute couple). And, what, no reaction to the Transrace people  ;D?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 10, 2013, 04:09:14 pm
I don't gain weight easily (I'm 6'2 and haven't reached 200 pounds, and I still look damn good as long as I keep my shirt on), but I still consider a pint of ice cream, like, a meal's worth of food.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 10, 2013, 04:22:43 pm
I don't gain weight easily (I'm 6'2 and haven't reached 200 pounds, and I still look damn good as long as I keep my shirt on), but I still consider a pint of ice cream, like, a meal's worth of food.
You lucky bastard :). If I eat more than 1000 calories a day, I gain weight.

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Do I even want to know what transabled is?

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5nw88fWpJ1ryeto5o1_r1_1280.png)

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I have no issue with DID multiple systems (oddly enough, I don't actually know any, which is abnormal for my track record). That being said, you're a fucking idiot.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m65hq60JAA1ryeto5o1_1280.png)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m65fv7hMTy1ryeto5o1_500.png)
I have no issue with therans, either. It's certainly possible, as a mental illness not dissimilar to DID.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m62pk5BzQS1ryeto5o1_1280.png)
However, I do have an issue with transabled people. Fuck you.

(http://i.imgur.com/Vkehj.png)

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If you're a multiple, simply refuse to have a psychologist integrate you. They ain't gonna force you.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m65teaAxKc1ryeto5o1_1280.png)

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Quite the "special" snowflake.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Meshakhad on July 10, 2013, 04:31:58 pm
I'm human. Feel free to cower in terror.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 10, 2013, 04:46:16 pm
I'm human. Feel free to cower in terror.
Oh no!!!!!

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(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m67ha7FJ371ryeto5o1_1280.png)
From the same person:
(http://i.imgur.com/qW35i.png)
How the fucknuggets are you a Quaker and an atheist? At least synesthesia is real.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m67fxtECZM1ryeto5o1_1280.jpg)

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Being vegan is a first world privilege, idiot.

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Denis, take it away. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrgpZ0fUixs)

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So, wheelchair fight? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8J3GebUYAc)

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Okay, WHAT THE FUCK DID THE INTERNET DO? What started this madness?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 10, 2013, 04:55:31 pm
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I'm willing to bet the last response is a troll. The others.....not so sure.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Sigmaleph on July 10, 2013, 04:56:28 pm
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Right, because there are well documented differences in the brain structures of people with different ethnicities, and in fact human biology can develop with various characteristics of different ethnicities regardless of genetics if exposed to various hormones. Oh. Wait.


I could respond to any of a dozen of these things, but even I have better things to do.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 10, 2013, 05:08:49 pm
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Oh please. My last name is in German. I get underlined, too.

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Another transethnicity person. And, fuck you, Google. That is not a word.

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The three rules of BDSM are "Safe, sane and consensual". You violated two of them right there.

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Yes, that'll get you accepted.

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Ew.

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Please be a troll.

Quote from: xthread:

i’ve completely stopped using “lgbtq”.  for one thing, i am rarely talking about gay and lesbians (monosexuals) in the same context as bisexuals, and less am i talking about trans people within that context.  furthermore, i don’t recognize lesbian, gay, bisexual OR trans people to be necessarily “queer” in the way i understand queer; some of them are trying to be “normal”- so queer is it’s own separate thing.  lastly, where are pansexuals, polysexuals, asexuals, and intersex people? or radical heterosexuals?  for this reason, generally i just speak of whatever people i am referring to.  sometimes, however, i notice that i just use “queer” (as in “other queer people”). but this is problematic because i don’t necessarily see “queer people” the way i see myself as a queer person; in fact, i don’t identify people as queer unless they are intentionally trying to subvert a norm or disrupt something.  so i was thinking of maybe using queer+ or queer* to denote radical and/or self-identified queers from those that society deems as queer for simply existing (all people in the alphabet soup)….  does anyone think that could catch on the way trans* has?

Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 10, 2013, 05:10:36 pm
What the fuck is an "uske?"

People don't accept "transethnics" because they're usually just a bunch of people who play with cultural stereotypes. You're not a transethnic Japanese simply because you listen to J-pop, eat ramen, and watch anime.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 10, 2013, 05:12:20 pm
What the fuck is an "uske?"

People don't accept "transethnics" because they're usually just a bunch of people who play with cultural stereotypes. You're not a transethnic Japanese simply because you listen to J-pop, eat ramen, and watch anime.
It's, according to that person, a pronoun.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 10, 2013, 05:13:07 pm
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Well, that likely just means that you have psychological issues regarding sex that you need to have worked out.

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Please be a troll.

At least the second one is a troll.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 10, 2013, 05:33:33 pm
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I accept everyone, but your acronym is too damn long.

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Recently a few events have unfolded and our good friend Karkat has been outed for having member of his system he wished to keep under wraps to avoid backlash. He’s extremely upset by this turn of events.

This is why we’re making this post. We are willingly going public with a member of our system we’ve kept hidden for some time now out of fear for being judge. We are no longer afraid. This is for you, Karkat. We love you all.

My friends, there exists a type of headmate known as a “factive”. Much like “fictive” their identity is known through various sources. Factives are being who are, essentially, beings who exist out-world. To be blunt and possibly slightly offensive, they are “real” people.

Karkat was outed in having one. Someone who has a bad reputation for something he did in his past. I don’t believe he deserves this reputation anymore. He is a good being. They are all wonderful beings.

So we come to you, followers. We’re here to say that we, too, have such a member. Admittedly, he does not have such a stain on his record. In fact many people love, admire, and respect him

The person in our system we’re referring to is named Thomas William Hiddleston, though you may call him Tom.

There will still likely be backlash from those who find out.

We don’t care.

This isn’t about us looking good. This is about helping a friend in need. A friend who needs just that - a friend who can understand.

Feel free to unfollow. Feel free to leave us messages. We don’t care. We love Karkat, that means way more too us than your hate.
NO! You do not have Tom Hiddleston in your goddamn head. Fuck you.

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Eva Braun is your headmate? No.

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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Sigmaleph on July 10, 2013, 05:37:31 pm
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Damn. As I started reading, I was kinda hoping they meant they were in love with rocks.

Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 10, 2013, 05:37:42 pm
Could I request we don't put so many pictures in one post? It makes it damn difficult to try to respond to a specific pic.

I will say that a lot of those with multiples, or transethnic, transdisabled (stop) seem to all be under 21 years old. And they all need psychiatric help.

Also:

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That is one of the more normal about mes I've seen.

Also LOL transgender privilege. Ok.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 10, 2013, 05:40:14 pm
Could I request we don't put so many pictures in one post? It makes it damn difficult to try to respond to a specific pic.

I will say that a lot of those with multiples, or transethnic, transdisabled (stop) seem to all be under 21 years old. And they all need psychiatric help.

Also:

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That is one of the more normal about mes I've seen.

Also LOL transgender privilege. Ok.
Sorry, I'm doing lots in one post mainly so I don't get accused of posting less in one post to post more. And yeah, transgender privilege is just nuts.

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Am I the only one who is apathetic about hair unless it's got wild colors or a unique style, then I love it (and, tbh, I love bald women too).

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Another otherkin LGBTQ privilege post.

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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 10, 2013, 05:55:55 pm
Could I request we don't put so many pictures in one post? It makes it damn difficult to try to respond to a specific pic.

I will say that a lot of those with multiples, or transethnic, transdisabled (stop) seem to all be under 21 years old. And they all need psychiatric help.

Also:

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That is one of the more normal about mes I've seen.

Also LOL transgender privilege. Ok.
Sorry, I'm doing lots in one post mainly so I don't get accused of posting less in one post to post more. And yeah, transgender privilege is just nuts.


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No one cares about post count so it doesn't really matter.

Also... I'm not even on that privilege scale. I must have very little privilege.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 10, 2013, 05:58:35 pm
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"I will only respect your legitimate battle for acceptance if you sniff my bullshit and call it gold."
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Sigmaleph on July 10, 2013, 06:01:08 pm
Could I request we don't put so many pictures in one post? It makes it damn difficult to try to respond to a specific pic.
Sorry, I'm doing lots in one post mainly so I don't get accused of posting less in one post to post more. And yeah, transgender privilege is just nuts.

There's no hurry, you can spread them out a bit.

Also:

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Black transmen have it so much better than white women[citation needed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)]
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 10, 2013, 06:11:26 pm
Could I request we don't put so many pictures in one post? It makes it damn difficult to try to respond to a specific pic.

I will say that a lot of those with multiples, or transethnic, transdisabled (stop) seem to all be under 21 years old. And they all need psychiatric help.

Also:

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That is one of the more normal about mes I've seen.

Also LOL transgender privilege. Ok.
Sorry, I'm doing lots in one post mainly so I don't get accused of posting less in one post to post more. And yeah, transgender privilege is just nuts.


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No one cares about post count so it doesn't really matter.

Also... I'm not even on that privilege scale. I must have very little privilege.
Ahh, okay. And neither am I, because apparently bisexuals don't exist.

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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on July 10, 2013, 06:12:50 pm
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Damn. As I started reading, I was kinda hoping they meant they were in love with rocks.



I was kinda hoping it said "Lithpromantic."
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: ironbite on July 10, 2013, 06:18:06 pm
Can I just point out that there is no such thing as a FUCKING RACE BASED ON NATIONALITY!? 

Ironbite-we're all part of the human race...GET OVER IT!
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Distind on July 10, 2013, 06:19:56 pm
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This was even funnier when I honestly thought it ended with 'Transwalnut' I realize I missed it now, I've just never seen the trans-n business that specific before.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 10, 2013, 06:27:44 pm
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This was even funnier when I honestly thought it ended with 'Transwalnut' I realize I missed it now, I've just never seen the trans-n business that specific before.
Okay, I think I can breathe again. Distind, don't give them any ideas.

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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Sleepy on July 10, 2013, 06:29:36 pm
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Damn. As I started reading, I was kinda hoping they meant they were in love with rocks.

Sounds pretty much like a typical high schooler with a crush on someone.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Sigmaleph on July 10, 2013, 06:39:33 pm

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Y'know, if you use terms that are not in the standard vocabulary, it's important to take a second and make sure you can actually spell them properly. It took me a while to figure out that "transtrneidng" is supposed to be "trans-trending".
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on July 10, 2013, 06:48:06 pm
The thing about "transethnic" is that there are situations where it can be legitimately used, like if someone was adopted by parents of a different race. Of course, that's not what they're talking about and these special snowflakes couldn't give two shits about how they're hurting people like that.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 10, 2013, 07:06:38 pm
*stares at the topic with eyes glazed over*

...Oh!  I reached the end of the topic.

Sorry, for some reason the massive amounts of "arghbarfghl" from SJWs made my brain shut down.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 10, 2013, 07:07:36 pm
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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 10, 2013, 07:09:37 pm

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Y'know, if you use terms that are not in the standard vocabulary, it's important to take a second and make sure you can actually spell them properly. It took me a while to figure out that "transtrneidng" is supposed to be "trans-trending".

I like how no two spellings are the same.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 10, 2013, 07:16:02 pm
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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 10, 2013, 07:36:49 pm
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The story behind this one is that The Wachowski Brothers are now The Wachowskis, because Larry came out as trans and has been transitioning female (she's Lana, if you wondering). She has dreads, fuschia ones to be exact.

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"Mom, dad, I only want to fuck people I love." Problem. Motherfucking. Solved.

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"OH NO YOU SUPPORT US AND WANT US TO HAVE EQUAL RIGHTS, WHATEVER SHALL WE DO?!!?!" Also, Cisplaining. Fuck you.

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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Delirium on July 10, 2013, 07:47:07 pm
What pisses me off about the Arkh Project is that there really does need to be more queer/POC representation in video games and they took advantage of people's desire to be represented. The hubris involved was pretty funny (the person behind the Arkh Project was an "ideas person" who somehow thought they could pay other people to make a 3D triple-A RPG that would run on XBox Live, Windows and Mac with a budget of $100,000), but the fact that they preyed on people's good intentions and ran off with the money is infuriating.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 10, 2013, 07:55:45 pm
What pisses me off about the Arkh Project is that there really does need to be more queer/POC representation in video games and they took advantage of people's desire to be represented. The hubris involved was pretty funny (the person behind the Arkh Project was an "ideas person" who somehow thought they could pay other people to make a 3D triple-A RPG that would run on XBox Live, Windows and Mac with a budget of $100,000), but the fact that they preyed on people's good intentions and ran off with the money is infuriating.
Damn. That sucks assballs.

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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Iosa the Invincible on July 10, 2013, 08:02:54 pm
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I heard this was posted by kavitiya, whom I think is one of the more notorious SJWs on the Best of Social Justice blog.  I'm pretty sure I recognize it.

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I've never heard the whole story behind the Arkh Project, but if I remember correctly, the controversy and growing lack of support comes from the lack of progress in development.  I can't remember, but I think I heard that pretty much all they've done with the money is continue to put out "concept art," and haven't actually started on the actual game.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 10, 2013, 08:16:09 pm
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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 10, 2013, 08:18:56 pm
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Long movies must be fun with this person.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 10, 2013, 08:23:27 pm
I...

I don't...

I think I'm even more scared of yaoi/slash fangirls than I was before.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 10, 2013, 08:28:40 pm
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Long movies must be fun with this person.
I almost spat juice on my computer.

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I...

I don't...

I think I'm even more scared of yaoi/slash fangirls than I was before.
Over which pic? And, idm yaoi/shash fangirls. Many of my female friends are yaoi/slash fangirls (especially over Hetalia), and I myself am into some pairings (Loki/Iron Man and Marilyn Manson/Twiggy Ramirez especially).
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 10, 2013, 08:33:30 pm
The funniest thing ever was when Arkh put out concept art for a character who was supposed to be representative of Japanese culture, and it turned out that the dress they were wearing was, in fact, traditionally worn in China, not Japan. Good job on avoiding stereotypes and cultural mash-ups, guys.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 10, 2013, 08:39:15 pm
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This reminds me, I want leather pants.

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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 10, 2013, 08:44:10 pm
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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 10, 2013, 09:08:14 pm
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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Iosa the Invincible on July 10, 2013, 09:53:17 pm
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Maybe it's just me, but 'really wanting to fuck' isn't the first thing I think of when I hear 'asexual.'

Sometimes I wonder what'll happen to these people if tumblr ever dies.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 10, 2013, 10:10:57 pm
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She's cute, too. Such a shame she's a bitch and insane.

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I get the point of being annoyed, but, over-the-top much?

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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 10, 2013, 10:29:22 pm
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Now THAT is clever.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 10, 2013, 11:20:30 pm
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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 10, 2013, 11:32:54 pm
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Apparently not being attracted to her is everyone else's fault.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Sigmaleph on July 10, 2013, 11:44:32 pm
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Minus the part about calling it oppression, this is perfectly valid.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: niam2023 on July 11, 2013, 12:09:45 am
I am gonna start an Anti-Social Justice Parody Blog. In which I act rather like what these idiots think their "enemies" act like.

It is going to be so much fun. Just to see how many people on there I can "faux-trigger" and enrage.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Meshakhad on July 11, 2013, 12:33:22 am
I have a question for the "die cis scum" people:

If they were to rule the world, at what age would a person be required to abandon their biological gender or be executed for being cis scum?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 11, 2013, 12:34:13 am
I am gonna start an Anti-Social Justice Parody Blog. In which I act rather like what these idiots think their "enemies" act like.

It is going to be so much fun. Just to see how many people on there I can "faux-trigger" and enrage.

Okay, the problem is that they won't KNOW it's a fake. All you'll be doing is validating their stupidity.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: niam2023 on July 11, 2013, 12:53:12 am
One of the tags is "Itrollyou."

I...don't think it could be more obvious.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 11, 2013, 01:33:23 am
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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 11, 2013, 01:42:30 am
One of the tags is "Itrollyou."

I...don't think it could be more obvious.
Link, please. I wanna see.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: niam2023 on July 11, 2013, 01:59:42 am
Behold the horror!

http://zoom000.tumblr.com/

Privilege...UNCHECKED! Patriarchy...ENFORCED! A thorough womanizer showing off an ill-gained body!
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 11, 2013, 02:02:55 am
Behold the horror!

http://zoom000.tumblr.com/

Privilege...UNCHECKED! Patriarchy...ENFORCED! A thorough womanizer showing off an ill-gained body!
Oh, that's fantastic.

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Fuck you. Even if Vinnie Vincent is irritating for completely different reasons, you don't fuck with Kiss.

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Look, speaking as a highly emotional depressed occasionally suicidal recovering self harmer, you do not need a goddamn label for being emotional.

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Well, if they forgot to ring me up, I wouldn't mention it even if the service was amazing. But, I'm poor anyways, so I need the cash.

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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 11, 2013, 02:26:57 am
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You sound rather bothered to me.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 11, 2013, 02:28:12 am
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Those thighs are elephantine!
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 11, 2013, 02:54:39 am
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Fuck you ^_^

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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 11, 2013, 02:55:43 am
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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Yla on July 11, 2013, 08:27:30 am
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What's wrong with that? They're not screaming opression, they're calmly explaining their preferences. Why is this in this thread?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: anti-nonsense on July 11, 2013, 10:24:32 am
Behold the horror!

http://zoom000.tumblr.com/

Privilege...UNCHECKED! Patriarchy...ENFORCED! A thorough womanizer showing off an ill-gained body!

Thanks for the chuckle man, carry right on!
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Art Vandelay on July 11, 2013, 10:47:21 am
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So you've got two possible games. One's a game in a horribly underserviced genre that's made by a guy who's proven himself a competent developer many times over in the past. The other is a rather uninteresting JRPG but a simple gimmick of having trans characters made by someone who clearly has no fucking clue what they're doing and as it turns out is simply scamming idiots out of their money.

Gee, can't imagine why the former is getting the most funding.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: anti-nonsense on July 11, 2013, 11:00:21 am
I think the idea that people in their thirties "shouldn't be playing video games anymore" is offensive as well, who are you to decide that somebody is too old for video games, you dickweed?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 11, 2013, 01:50:14 pm
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What's wrong with that? They're not screaming opression, they're calmly explaining their preferences. Why is this in this thread?
Because "dude" isn't a pronoun. I actually use it gender neutral myself. It's not a pronoun. You can't say "I am looking for dude" or "Hello, dude am PosthumanHeresy" or "Dude is hungry".
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 11, 2013, 02:41:34 pm
I think the idea that people in their thirties "shouldn't be playing video games anymore" is offensive as well, who are you to decide that somebody is too old for video games, you dickweed?

It also has some unfortunate implications: our video game is really important culturally and is a major stepping stone to true trans and minority acceptance....unless you're more than 30 years old, in which case you're a weirdo who should just ignore it.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Sigmaleph on July 11, 2013, 02:44:34 pm
What's wrong with that? They're not screaming opression, they're calmly explaining their preferences. Why is this in this thread?
Because "dude" isn't a pronoun. I actually use it gender neutral myself. It's not a pronoun. You can't say "I am looking for dude" or "Hello, dude am PosthumanHeresy" or "Dude is hungry".

A minor confusion of grammatical categories doesn't seem to qualify as "worst", though.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 11, 2013, 02:55:58 pm
What's wrong with that? They're not screaming opression, they're calmly explaining their preferences. Why is this in this thread?
Because "dude" isn't a pronoun. I actually use it gender neutral myself. It's not a pronoun. You can't say "I am looking for dude" or "Hello, dude am PosthumanHeresy" or "Dude is hungry".

A minor confusion of grammatical categories doesn't seem to qualify as "worst", though.
Might not be the worst, but it's just silly. Less depressing than the others, too, so it's a nice "oh, that's not too bad".
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Commissar Kaz on July 11, 2013, 04:11:57 pm
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How do you even come to that conclusion? AGE IS NOT A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT, FFS.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 11, 2013, 05:58:26 pm
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How do you even come to that conclusion? AGE IS NOT A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT, FFS.
Glad that melted brains.

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I know a paedophile who repressed his urges and ignores them. He'd slap you upside the head.

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I'm confused.

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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 11, 2013, 05:58:40 pm
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Hates men, cissexuals and heterosexuals. 2/3 for me ^_^

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It's Lady motherfucking Gaga. Why do you care?

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So, now suggesting the mentally ill get mental help from a mental health professional is "sanism"?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 11, 2013, 06:10:41 pm
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Social Justice train wreck!

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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 11, 2013, 06:24:54 pm
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I wonder what an Asexual Pride Parade would look like.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 11, 2013, 06:37:21 pm
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I wonder what an Asexual Pride Parade would look like.
I want to see asexual porn.

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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 11, 2013, 06:57:36 pm
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Consensual pedophilia? Seriously?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 11, 2013, 07:06:03 pm
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I don't have anything against non-binary people, but don't overeact like this.

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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 11, 2013, 07:21:33 pm
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Fun fact: In the least shocking twist mankind has seen, the girl who posted this was eventually discovered to be exaggerating her supposed poverty and pulled the standard "delete fucking everything" move when called out on it.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 11, 2013, 07:22:11 pm
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Quote from: thelegendofkungjew
Quote from: sahnin
Quote from: myotishia
Quote from: serpentine-phenomena
I see a lot of demon-kin making posts about things such being rejected by god when they were alive as demons.

But what about those who don’t follow the Abrahamic god or don’t feel as if they were at any point under the command of either god or satan?

Its a bit uncomfortable to think about, as…


Hell isn’t as people imagine. There are many different places, like counties in hell. I lived on Lucifers archipelago, a green place next to the blue sea. A little way along was a whole mechanical county. The flowers were metal and worked like clockwork, opening and closing with the day and night. They even had mechanical humming birds. :) There are lands that look like this world and others that are beyond human comprehension.

The fallen live along side the native demons, fall in love, have families, have jobs. If you ever want to talk about it I’m right here. :)

Also, Lucifer is not Satan.  Depending on the scholar, the term ‘Lucifer’ refers to Venus or a Babylonian King.  But I’d assume if you really were a demon in a past life or whatever that you’d know this already.
I like how, you know, in the religion that came up with Satan, Satan isn’t an entity.  Like Baal, Satan is a metaphor, a loose concept used to flesh out esoteric ideas and, really, a literary figure, nothing more.

Satan is a metaphor.

Christians write their fan-fiction and, suddenly, a bunch of dipshit middle-class crotchfruits think they’re living the myth and just…  No.

Very no.


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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Commissar Kaz on July 11, 2013, 07:44:25 pm
I've never really understood the whole otherkin stuff. To me, it just looks like a whole bunch of people going 'omg i do x i muuuust really be a wolf/dragon/whatever.' I'm just waiting to see someone claim they're really a pony from Equestria.

Also, just wondering, but where do you manage to find all these PosthumanHeresy?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 11, 2013, 07:47:03 pm
I've never really understood the whole otherkin stuff. To me, it just looks like a whole bunch of people going 'omg i do x i muuuust really be a wolf/dragon/whatever.' I'm just waiting to see someone claim they're really a pony from Equestria.

Also, just wondering, but where do you manage to find all these PosthumanHeresy?
Actually, there are several of those, and some Homestuck trolls, too. As for where I've been finding these, WTF Social Justice (http://wtfsocialjustice.tumblr.com/) and Social Justice Receipts (http://socialjusticereceipts.tumblr.com/).

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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 11, 2013, 07:54:21 pm
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Well, I like boobs.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: ironbite on July 11, 2013, 07:55:06 pm
........*facepalms, then has a drink*
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Valerius on July 11, 2013, 07:56:34 pm
Also, just wondering, but where do you manage to find all these PosthumanHeresy?

I was wondering the same. It looks like he could pretty much single-handedly keep this thread going for a good while.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 11, 2013, 07:59:45 pm
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I've seen this before, but never noticed that it was written by a man until now. Christ, that adds a whole new layer of condescension to it.

Quote
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I'm 99% sure this a troll. Still hilarious, though.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 11, 2013, 08:02:03 pm
Prepare for anger:

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Arabs? What's an Arab?

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Also, just wondering, but where do you manage to find all these PosthumanHeresy?

I was wondering the same. It looks like he could pretty much single-handedly keep this thread going for a good while.
There's a lot of anti-Social Justice blogs. They post images. I've got plenty more. I find these people amusing, and I'm not just blindly copying. There are some I leave because I actually agree with them, and even some I put in "Best" (like the Africa map or the one about periods).
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Commissar Kaz on July 11, 2013, 08:03:47 pm
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I'd really like to know how I benefit from pedophilia.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 11, 2013, 08:20:05 pm
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I'd really like to know how I benefit from pedophilia.
I'm curious, too.

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So, do MRAs need MRAism if their university is named after a girl? You know, I supported Princess Peachie's "I need feminism" pic, but you're an idiot.

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Oh please. I'm a white guy. I certainly couldn't walk through Albany alone at night. Only people I know who can walk through Albany late at night are groups and a teenage girl with a 50 year old father who is a huge badass motherfucker.

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Sleep in the car, then, bitch.

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I don't make fun of the mentally disabled, but I also don't flip shit when someone makes a joke like that.

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Does that make the people who talk about "Thin Privilege" nymphos? Because now I'm going to go find brain bleach.

Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 11, 2013, 08:25:50 pm
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If I ever have to walk around my neighborhood at night, I always have a large knife on me (legally carried with the hilt and sheath visible in my pocket; it's only illegal for me to carry it concealed). When I get my CCW permit, it'll be replaced with a handgun.

Not because my neighborhood is especially dangerous. Just because I don't want to be anywhere alone at night without something to defend myself with.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Sleepy on July 11, 2013, 08:28:16 pm
I love how the anti-PIV sex guy is a virgin. He doesn't know anything.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 11, 2013, 08:31:16 pm
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You've never seen my best friend's family. Your temper tantrum will never beat anything her brother or sister do.

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Wat?

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I'm sorry, did I just walk into True Blood or the Buffy Season 8/9 comics?

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I'm 5'6. Tall privilege is bullshit. You do not speak for all short people.

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Still fat, still think you people are full of shit.

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Dammit therans, I do my damnedest to treat you like anyone else with a non-impairing mental illness, but it's really fucking hard when you do this.

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If I ever have to walk around my neighborhood at night, I always have a large knife on me (legally carried with the hilt and sheath visible in my pocket; it's only illegal for me to carry it concealed). When I get my CCW permit, it'll be replaced with a handgun.

Not because my neighborhood is especially dangerous. Just because I don't want to be anywhere alone at night without something to defend myself with.
I don't typically walk around at night, and even then, I wouldn't carry my combat knife on me, but I at least always have a Swiss Army knife in my jacket, both for preparedness and in case of emergency. It's not much, but better than nothing (and I use it for other shit usually).
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 11, 2013, 08:40:13 pm
Regarding the Redd image: Redd also once referred to a Native woman as a "colonizer" for disagreeing with her about some minor issue. What makes it particularly fucked up is that Redd herself is, like, 95% white (and that's assuming that she's even right about having a distant Taino and/or Afro-cuban ancestor, which is pure speculation on her part).
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 11, 2013, 08:47:55 pm
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Okay, I'm going to focus on my York peppermint paddies, my 10 calorie Monster and Rammstein.

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I hope this is a parody. I hope.

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Quote from: melancholic-anarchist

I can never fully respect a anyone who isnt vegan.

i know that sounds horrible, but when you think about it, its like asking someone to respect hitler.


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I give multiples the benefit of the doubt. That said, you're so full of shit, you are made of shit. Penn and Teller would say you're too much bullshit for them. As the Bullshit Man would say: "You know what buuuuuulshit? You!"

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Regarding the Redd image: Redd also once referred to a Native woman as a "colonizer" for disagreeing with her about some minor issue. What makes it particularly fucked up is that Redd herself is, like, 95% white (and that's assuming that she's even right about having a distant Taino and/or Afro-cuban ancestor, which is pure speculation on her part).
Yeah, I heard about Redd being white. I'm less white than her, due to actually having a Seminole tribeswoman in my family tree several years ago and an Italian grandmother, and I don't act like that, so, Redd can bugger off.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 11, 2013, 08:59:25 pm
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Are you fucking stupid? Or do you just try to act like a failed fetal alcohol syndrome abortion that was shaken like a soda bottle and then dropped?

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Both of you, sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up.

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Both of you, shut the fuck down and sit the fuck up.

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Oh please.

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...I wasn't born with enough middle fingers.

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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Sleepy on July 11, 2013, 09:02:13 pm
Not trying to sound like a dick in any way, but could you possibly cut down the number of things you post? It's gotten difficult to read and discuss. (I really mean this in the nicest way possible.)
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Commissar Kaz on July 11, 2013, 09:04:28 pm
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These kind of people really bug me. You're not 'FTMTF,' you're just trying to be special.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 11, 2013, 09:14:03 pm
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Arkh Project dialog. Funny, I've heard hentai better written. I've written better fanfic porn.

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Okay, I laughed.

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Razors, lasers and cream. Okay, that sounds like a weird-ass song title.

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Not trying to sound like a dick in any way, but could you possibly cut down the number of things you post? It's gotten difficult to read and discuss. (I really mean this in the nicest way possible.)
I've been trying to reduce the number of pictures in a single post.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 11, 2013, 09:16:13 pm
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Okay, I'll admit, I do have a weird thing about always feeling like there's creepy shit going down in straight couples just below the surface but not gay/lesbian couples and generally preferring the latter, but I don't give a shit about race and I certainly wouldn't be a dick over straight couples, because I know it's illogical.

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This post fucking sucks, it sucking fucks and I don't like it.

Quote from: meravie

Pokemon without a gender can’t use the move ‘attract’

#ThisIsBinarism
#BoycottNintendo

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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 11, 2013, 09:23:23 pm
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Being on your blog while you bitch = rape.

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Capitalists freak me out too, but you don't need a trigger warning.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 11, 2013, 09:26:26 pm
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I actually think this is a troll post. It's intentionally structured exactly like the "Racism is prejudice + power. I don't care about your individual experience, POC cannot be racist" posts.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 11, 2013, 09:31:51 pm
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I actually think this is a troll post. It's intentionally structured exactly like the "Racism is prejudice + power. I don't care about your individual experience, POC cannot be racist" posts.
Possibly, but that's the problem with Poes. You can't really tell.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: ironbite on July 11, 2013, 09:47:09 pm
Better yet...COULD YOU WAIT BETWEEN POSTS!?

Ironbite-jesus that can almost be considered spamming.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 11, 2013, 09:49:28 pm
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Better yet...COULD YOU WAIT BETWEEN POSTS!?

Ironbite-jesus that can almost be considered spamming.
Sorry. I had had a big one and by splitting it up it formed more than I intended. Not trying to spam.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Igor on July 11, 2013, 09:56:02 pm
Just read through all of this, mind slowing down a tad, Posthuman? There are a few things I wanted to address, being the Token Levelheaded Therian of the forum, but I couldn't find the posts when I went to quote. Actually, I'll address one thing right now: we are most emphatically *ahem* NOT OPPRESSED. That is all.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 11, 2013, 09:58:56 pm
Just read through all of this, mind slowing down a tad, Posthuman? There are a few things I wanted to address, being the Token Levelheaded Therian of the forum, but I couldn't find the posts when I went to quote. Actually, I'll address one thing right now: we are most emphatically *ahem* NOT OPPRESSED. That is all.
Okay, sorry. Stomach aches, boredom and general nothing-to-do leads to this, and then I get annoyed when I see I have 20 images on standby. And yeah, I have no problems with therians, and pretty much see it the same way I see transsexuality or anything like that.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: QueenofHearts on July 11, 2013, 10:14:31 pm
And yeah, I have no problems with therians, and pretty much see it the same way I see transsexuality or anything like that.

/me facepalms
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 11, 2013, 10:23:35 pm
And yeah, I have no problems with therians, and pretty much see it the same way I see transsexuality or anything like that.

/me facepalms
I don't see them discriminated the same, but I don't feel it's right to immediately go "Nope, doesn't exist" without research. The human mind is too complex to just "Nope, doesn't exist" without research. Therefore, until it is scientifically disproven, I will see it as any other mental differentiation from what is seen as the norm, because I have no proof it does not exist. Due to the fact we can't read minds, when it comes to psychology, the burden of proof is on the person saying something does not exist.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 11, 2013, 10:27:00 pm
Protip for PosthumanHeresy:

It's not a good idea compare transsexuality and therianthropy/otherkin.  Therianthropy/Otherkin is a spiritual thing (despite the Tumblrkin trying to hijack the trans movement, and the belief of certain otherkin that the tumblrkin are hijacking the otherkin movement too).  Transsexuality is a biological thing.  The two are about as similar as potatoes and tomatos.

...Probably less similar, actually.

It also makes resident therians feel awkward and resident QueenofHearts angry.

Besides, we've had this argument before and both sides felt pretty disgruntled about it.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Igor on July 11, 2013, 10:28:04 pm
I actually have a thread about this a few pages back in this section, and for all the differences I have with Queen regarding this, I do kinda see why she facepalmed. Y'see, there's a certain sector of the therian community that tries to piggyback off of the real struggles that transpeople face every day and claim they face the same discrimination. Largely because of that, I at least try to discourage comparisons to transpeople, because it's kind of a different thing.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Sigmaleph on July 11, 2013, 10:29:45 pm
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Actually, I want this shirt now.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 11, 2013, 10:31:04 pm
Also, Posthuman?

Could you stop flooding the thread with images?  We can't discuss them because there's far too many per post, and far too many posts per row.  This isn't an official rule, but I'd like to ask you to keep it down to about three images per post, and not post several times in a row as well.  Wait for people to react.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 11, 2013, 10:32:20 pm
I actually have a thread about this a few pages back in this section, and for all the differences I have with Queen regarding this, I do kinda see why she facepalmed. Y'see, there's a certain sector of the therian community that tries to piggyback off of the real struggles that transpeople face every day and claim they face the same discrimination. Largely because of that, I at least try to discourage comparisons to transpeople, because it's kind of a different thing.
Protip for PosthumanHeresy:

It's not a good idea compare transsexuality and therianthropy/otherkin.  Therianthropy/Otherkin is a spiritual thing (despite the Tumblrkin trying to hijack the trans movement, and the belief of certain otherkin that the tumblrkin are hijacking the otherkin movement too).  Transsexuality is a biological thing.  The two are about as similar as potatoes and tomatos.

...Probably less similar, actually.

It also makes resident therians feel awkward and resident QueenofHearts angry.

Besides, we've had this argument before and both sides felt pretty disgruntled about it.
I get what you two are saying, and I understand. My comment wasn't comparing the two in any way besides for the fact that, in my mindset, they are differentiations in the mind and therefore I don't dismiss them, but I could quite easily see how that could be misconstrued, especially with all the dumbasses that take it further. The only thing I see in common is it's stuff to do with that weird, irritating thing known as the human mind. I do not intend to offend. I look at many things from a more psychological view than an emotional or spiritual mindset, and am more likely to notice similarities like that than anything else. That was purely my intent.
Also, Posthuman?

Could you stop flooding the thread with images?  We can't discuss them because there's far too many per post, and far too many posts per row.  This isn't an official rule, but I'd like to ask you to keep it down to about three images per post, and not post several times in a row as well.  Wait for people to react.
Okay, sorry. I'm not trying to make people mad or spam or anything or flood the thread. Sorry.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: wrightway on July 11, 2013, 10:37:57 pm
I think you came after the wonder that was the old social justice thread got tossed to the lox'd box, post human. If you're bored it's still there to read. 300 pages of "O_o how crazy are you people?!"
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 11, 2013, 10:41:37 pm
I think you came after the wonder that was the old social justice thread got tossed to the lox'd box, post human. If you're bored it's still there to read. 300 pages of "O_o how crazy are you people?!"
Yeah. June 30th 2013. Yes, I post a lot. I don't have much to do and everything interests me. On the downside, I have so many SJW images on standby already. Sounds like a fun read, just afraid of how many I'd have open, lol. I currently have 30 tabs or so of various things. Ten are images, and two are anti-SJW blogs.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 11, 2013, 11:05:01 pm
Not trying to sound like a dick in any way, but could you possibly cut down the number of things you post? It's gotten difficult to read and discuss. (I really mean this in the nicest way possible.)

I'm going to have to agree here. Just try to take it down a couple of notches.

Anyway, back on topic:

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Guys don't call her cis! It lessens her victimhood status.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: QueenofHearts on July 11, 2013, 11:08:21 pm
/me facepalms
I don't see them discriminated the same, but I don't feel it's right to immediately go "Nope, doesn't exist" without research. The human mind is too complex to just "Nope, doesn't exist" without research. Therefore, until it is scientifically disproven, I will see it as any other mental differentiation from what is seen as the norm, because I have no proof it does not exist. Due to the fact we can't read minds, when it comes to psychology, the burden of proof is on the person saying something does not exist.

The two are nothing alike. Transsexuality is very real and (I'm just gonna say it) theriantropy is just a result of an over active imagination. Second, the burden of proof is on them to prove it's legit. You know, get recognition from the general body of psychology and what not... Putting the burden of proof on the person saying otherwise legitimizes all those nuts on Tumblr with their headmates who identify as the Sun and Hulk Hogan.

It also makes resident therians feel awkward and resident QueenofHearts angry.

Oh, wow, take a little potshot at me. Say "it makes Queen angry" instead of "it's offensive to trans-people." Whatever. I am angry. I told you in Random's thread that saying "I can't help it, I want to be a mogwai, otherkin struggles" would cause people to compare otherkinism to gender dysphoria. Compare overactive imaginations to real life threatening problems and that this diminishes the severity of gender dysphoria. You said otherwise... And here we are.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 11, 2013, 11:17:21 pm
But, wouldn't your identity be oppressed? I'd love for her to meet this crazy:

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/me facepalms
I don't see them discriminated the same, but I don't feel it's right to immediately go "Nope, doesn't exist" without research. The human mind is too complex to just "Nope, doesn't exist" without research. Therefore, until it is scientifically disproven, I will see it as any other mental differentiation from what is seen as the norm, because I have no proof it does not exist. Due to the fact we can't read minds, when it comes to psychology, the burden of proof is on the person saying something does not exist.

The two are nothing alike. Transsexuality is very real and (I'm just gonna say it) theriantropy is just a result of an over active imagination. Second, the burden of proof is on them to prove it's legit. You know, get recognition from the general body of psychology and what not... Putting the burden of proof on the person saying otherwise legitimizes all those nuts on Tumblr with their headmates who identify as the Sun and Hulk Hogan.

It also makes resident therians feel awkward and resident QueenofHearts angry.

Oh, wow, take a little potshot at me. Say "it makes Queen angry" instead of "it's offensive to trans-people." Whatever. I am angry. I told you in Random's thread that saying "I can't help it, I want to be a mogwai, otherkin struggles" would cause people to compare otherkinism to gender dysphoria. Compare overactive imaginations to real life threatening problems and that this diminishes the severity of gender dysphoria. You said otherwise... And here we are.
DID is a real mental illness. Has it become a fad? Yes. This has happened before, right after Sybil came out. I'm still not going to dismiss the idea that someone might have a different mental wiring than the usual without proof, because no matter who you do that to, it is unfair. It might be an overactive imagination, or it might be a different mental wiring. Many mental disorders/syndromes/illnesses (I dislike using the terms mental disorder or mental illness when talking about this stuff, because it's just offensive) are cultural or non-genetic or a mixture of culture, genes and upbringing. Chances are, therans are a mix of culture and upbringing. That does not make it any less legitimate as a mental condition. If someone legitimately believes that they are mentally another species, then they are not "normal" (whatever that is). That is just how psychology works. Therans are still less odd than the Jumping Frenchmen of Maine, and that seriously happened. If that can happen, I don't think therans are too unlikely. That being said, they have not nearly faced the kind of discrimination transexuals have. They have not faced the struggles or trials that transexuals have, nor the hatred or bigoty. The ones that think they have are friggin wrong as hell. And, the general body of psychology needs to be aware of it to study it, and there have been one or two studies that did support it's existence. It's just not really noticed yet. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist. As for otherkin, yeah, way less likely. Queen, I legitimately respect you, and I don't plan on trying to insult you. I wasn't aiming to in the first place.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 11, 2013, 11:18:49 pm
Oh, wow, take a little potshot at me.

Actually I was being respectful to the fact that it makes you angry, and thus is not a subject to be broached carelessly like Posthuman did.

You as a person, the whole package.

There's also the fact that there's other trans people on this forum who aren't offended by otherkin so "it's offensive to transpeople" isn't exactly an accurate statement.

However, if you want to interpret a statement indicating that I'm thinking of your emotions as an attack, feel free.  Obviously I respect you far more than you respect me.

Regardless, I'm not here to have a pissing contest.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Otend on July 11, 2013, 11:20:45 pm
i'm going to use my bimonthly post to say this

not this shit again, you guys.

seriously, we've already had this argument, and you're going to ruin a perfectly decent thread dedicated to mocking people so that we can have an argument repeated from months ago.  we will go through the same motions, the same people will shout, et cetera.  let's just call it quits now so we can resume laughing at people.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 11, 2013, 11:21:46 pm
It's worth pointing out that you don't need to read minds to test the legitimacy of either transsexualism or "transspeciesism". Among other things, we have MRI scans showing that trans people have brain structure more closely resembling that of their identified gender than their biological sex, so it follows that we should be able to do the same with therians; yet no one has managed to produce any evidence of a human with non-human brain structure.

Edit: Also, most of the evidence points to transsexualism being neurological in origin, rather than psychological (not that there aren't psychological aspects; it's just that the root cause seems to be primarily in how the brain develops).
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 11, 2013, 11:30:16 pm
Yeah I don't believe transspecies are a legitimate thing either.  Every human when forming has the capacity for the hormones/brain pathing/etc of either gender.  They don't have the capacity or the hormones/brain pathing/etc of non-human animals.  That's just ridiculous.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 11, 2013, 11:31:09 pm
It's worth pointing out that you don't need to read minds to test the legitimacy of either transsexualism or "transspeciesism". Among other things, we have MRI scans showing that trans people have brain structure more closely resembling that of their identified gender than their biological sex, so it follows that we should be able to do the same with therians; yet no one has managed to produce any evidence of a human with non-human brain structure.

Edit: Also, most of the evidence points to transsexualism being neurological in origin, rather than psychological.
Well, it would be interesting to do MRI scans on therans. And, that seems pretty logical, since it is pretty much an alternate wiring. I'm really not looking for a debate on the origins of various mental conditions, but if theranophy (wait, Chrome recognizes it as a word? Huh) is not neurological, than the best description I can come up with it is the delusion that one is an animal trapped in a human body. The problem I have is that general society has stigmatized the word "delusion", and I generally think, if it is real (that is, if it happens in a reasonable number of people, is consistently described with similar symptoms and cannot be proven to be made up, which theranophy fits), then it is harmless, if abnormal. In my honest opinion, it's a non-genetic mental disorder, and I feel like the causes may be connected to a general outcast nature, with a disconnect from humanity forming. But, again, this requires tons of research. That being said, with it existing across multiple nations, in people of various genders, ages, races, upbringings and mental states, but with a similar background and generation, it seems that it's most likely induced, not genetic.

Yeah I don't believe transspecies are a legitimate thing either.  Every human when forming has the capacity for the hormones/brain pathing/etc of either gender.  They don't have the capacity or the hormones/brain pathing/etc of non-human animals.  That's just ridiculous.
I agree. Ergo, not neurological.

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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 11, 2013, 11:38:36 pm
Yeah I don't believe transspecies are a legitimate thing either.  Every human when forming has the capacity for the hormones/brain pathing/etc of either gender.  They don't have the capacity or the hormones/brain pathing/etc of non-human animals.  That's just ridiculous.

Precisely. I can buy that someone might psychologically identify with an animal for whatever reason, but it's not at all the same thing as being trans gender.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 11, 2013, 11:48:01 pm
Yeah I don't believe transspecies are a legitimate thing either.  Every human when forming has the capacity for the hormones/brain pathing/etc of either gender.  They don't have the capacity or the hormones/brain pathing/etc of non-human animals.  That's just ridiculous.

Precisely. I can buy that someone might psychologically identify with an animal for whatever reason, but it's not at all the same thing as being trans gender.
I agree. When I compare the two, I am simply saying the both occur in the mind. That being said, I believe therans exist due to sociological factors, not genetic. Many mental disorders are sociological, and even local/cultural. Things like the Middle Ages "Glass delusion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass_delusion)", for example. Quoting Wikipedia here: "The glass delusion was an external manifestation of a psychiatric disorder recorded in Europe in the late Middle Ages (15th to 17th centuries).[1] People feared that they were made of glass “and therefore likely to shatter into pieces”. One famous early sufferer was King Charles VI of France who refused to allow people to touch him, and wore reinforced clothing to protect himself from accidental “shattering”."

Now, this shares traits with theranophy. First off, it is a disorder that has people believing that they are something they scientifically cannot be, despite all the obvious evidence. Additionally, it was almost exclusively found in the wealthy and educated, much in the same way theranophy is found amongst outcasts and misfits typically. So, Queen, you are right. Transsexualism and theranophy are not similar. Somehow, I think this might piss more people off, but this is what I feel is the most logical conclusion. That said, I have no problem with therans, and don't hate them for existing. Trying to act like they're a vastly hated group, on the other hand, triggers my "crowbar to the knees" reflex.

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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 11, 2013, 11:50:01 pm
Glad we're all on the same page, then. :)
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Igor on July 11, 2013, 11:55:36 pm
Small picky point, I'm a grammar commie, so bear with me. It's therian (note the i) and therianthropy. And unfortunately firefox recognizes neither of them. I'm kind of an ass when it comes to people spelling things correctly, sorry. Also maybe we should continue this in  my thread (http://forums.fstdt.net/index.php?topic=2636.0) and leave this thread to the Worst of Social Justice. (I'm of the opinion that this isn't really related to Social Justice anyway, because we're, again, not oppressed.)
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 11, 2013, 11:57:52 pm
Glad we're all on the same page, then. :)
Yeah, seems like it. Just to make sure, I'll just quickly summarise my conclusion (also useful if people don't want to read my overly long posts).
* Theranophy is a societal mental disorder, not neurological.
* Typically exists amongst outcasts and misfits.
* Not widely discriminated against.
* Quite similar to the Middle Ages Glass delusion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass_delusion).
* Therefore, exists, but is a delusion, like the aforementioned or the mostly-dead clinical lycanthropy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinical_lycanthropy) (yes, that exists, and psychologists agree on that one, too, so no arguing it). Okay, now that I think about it, I should have brought that up before.

So yes, theronphy is a literal sign of the times.

Small picky point, I'm a grammar commie, so bear with me. It's therian (note the i) and therianthropy. And unfortunately firefox recognizes neither of them. I'm kind of an ass when it comes to people spelling things correctly, sorry. Also maybe we should continue this in  my thread (http://forums.fstdt.net/index.php?topic=2636.0) and leave this thread to the Worst of Social Justice. (I'm of the opinion that this isn't really related to Social Justice anyway, because we're, again, not oppressed.)
Oh, derp. My eyes completely glossed over that. My bad (and I'm usually the same). And, this should be my final post on the subject, barring anyone else weighing in.

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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Radiation on July 12, 2013, 12:01:14 am
i'm going to use my bimonthly post to say this

not this shit again, you guys.

seriously, we've already had this argument, and you're going to ruin a perfectly decent thread dedicated to mocking people so that we can have an argument repeated from months ago.  we will go through the same motions, the same people will shout, et cetera.  let's just call it quits now so we can resume laughing at people.

I'm going to agree with Otend on this...let's move on from the... transgender vs. theriantrophy...debate and move on before it gets ugly.

That said... what's with this "erasure" concept? I don't get it.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 12, 2013, 12:06:19 am
i'm going to use my bimonthly post to say this

not this shit again, you guys.

seriously, we've already had this argument, and you're going to ruin a perfectly decent thread dedicated to mocking people so that we can have an argument repeated from months ago.  we will go through the same motions, the same people will shout, et cetera.  let's just call it quits now so we can resume laughing at people.

I'm going to agree with Otend on this...let's move on from the... transgender vs. theriantrophy...debate and move on before it gets ugly.

That said... what's with this "erasure" concept? I don't get it.
I'm going to agree with moving on. I personally have found a satisfactory explanation for it and hopefully have made convincing points. Also, I have no clue.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/5aa764e88c37481681d4a68cf4c5ff4d/tumblr_mis7b6t6Eq1rxv81fo1_500.png)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/04ce735b2495c70e3371778824881cd3/tumblr_miqng3z0sm1rxv81fo1_500.png)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/1b711baf32bd9600143562762f8c6943/tumblr_mglch301Q31ryeto5o1_500.png)
Oh please, nobody ever gets my last name right (it is in German), and even my best friend, who has a common German last name, has the same problem. For first names, I'd like you to know that psychologists conducted studies that proved "ethnic" names make you less likely to get hired, even if you have the exact same resume as a non-ethnic named person. So, yes, it's a problem. You can help your children by not naming them those.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Radiation on July 12, 2013, 12:19:28 am
Seems like a lot of these SJWs have some sort of weird, Peter Pan Syndrome, adult child type of thing going on alongside using tumblr as their strange, demented,  uber-politically correct, special identity masturbating Neverland.

Did I get that right?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 12, 2013, 12:22:05 am
I pissed off a SJW so much that they screen capped it. Am I Tumblr famous now?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 12, 2013, 12:23:00 am
That said... what's with this "erasure" concept? I don't get it.

"Erasure" more or less refers to anything that implicitly dismisses either a person's experiences with prejudice or the existence of a marginalized group.

So, for instance, saying that all men have penises and all women have vaginas erases trans people.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 12, 2013, 12:24:26 am
Seems like a lot of these SJWs have some sort of weird, Peter Pan Syndrome, adult child type of thing going on alongside using tumblr as their strange, demented,  uber-politically correct, special identity masturbating Neverland.

Did I get that right?
I don't see a Peter Pan Syndrome amongst most of them (in fact, the only person I can think of with that is CWC). That said, they're certainly mentally ill, even if it isn't what they think it is.

(http://i.imgur.com/pAXk6.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/gnCPq.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/wPcmQ.jpg?1)

I pissed off a SJW so much that they screen capped it. Am I Tumblr famous now?
Yes, but only if you post it so we can see.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 12, 2013, 12:32:43 am
strange, demented,  uber-politically correct, special identity masturbating Neverland.

*looks at username*

Oh, hilarity.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 12, 2013, 12:44:53 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/c2b7f262d264325ab2caceb594c9c197/tumblr_mf3ul2EDdo1rxv81fo1_500.jpg)
What a derpy post written by a derp.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/c1e6752b2b5304e51ae71fe74221bb26/tumblr_mf3cvoozVM1ryeto5o1_500.png)
No! You do not defile Stitch like that.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/7e5f201948f876bb1100d19c3e44b0c7/tumblr_merdvflIdR1rxwjfno1_500.png)
Sounds like these fucking assholes are butthurt.

Harrison Bergeron by Kurt Vonnegut. The utopia of a SJA (http://www.tnellen.com/cybereng/harrison.html)
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: niam2023 on July 12, 2013, 01:10:45 am
Just because Abercrombie and Fitch has such a person in charge of it, and such reputation of being "cool kids only", I think I'll shop there and get clothes from them.

And then post pictures of me in A&F duds. Just to piss off the Tumblr SJWs.

I need to add more "privilege" to my Anti-SJW blog.

Speaking of which! http://zoom000.tumblr.com/ I updated today.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 12, 2013, 01:18:54 am
Here is the screenshot:
(http://media.tumblr.com/4c15393a2a19e171d426b847037581f2/tumblr_inline_mpsm2cb2tE1qz4rgp.png)

And here is their retort, which they so conveniently cut out:

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No, these are reasons that I am NOT an anti-sj. You’ve just listed something that only an anti-sj would do. Pay closer attention, okay?

So you're just ignoring the fact that it's often the "social justice" types who tell people to kill themselves?

The fact that they screencapped it doesn't bother me. What bothers me is that its the first screenshot they used on their little master post of "lying anti-sj bullies" of which one of the opening statements was this, "No because all anti-sj are lying heartless bullies. Here is my proof:"

And I think it's interesting that they started off with my post because, my response wasn't to bully them, I wasn't being heartless or lying about anything, and I'm not even an anti-sj blog (so I guess that makes them a liar).
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 12, 2013, 01:25:42 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/bbae52e18a9db7f8a23b67e622918791/tumblr_mi6yk8vrN61rxwjfno1_1280.png)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/8b551df352ed212b067dd0bd1ea769dc/tumblr_meov9swamW1rxv81fo1_500.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/TdjRr.png)
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Sigmaleph on July 12, 2013, 09:58:05 am
One day I really should go down this thread and mark everything I think is perfectly reasonable. But today is not that day!

In the meantime, this:
(http://i.imgur.com/pAXk6.png)
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Commissar Kaz on July 12, 2013, 10:23:23 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/cbaac6dec4566c65ea99b655dd0fb572/tumblr_mfvqk6K7Jw1ryeto5o1_500.png)

Wow, this one is sexist towards men (the 'they can't be raped' thing) and women (by saying only men can defend themselves). I wonder if these people realize they're hurting their cause more than they're helping it.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 12, 2013, 11:07:20 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/bbae52e18a9db7f8a23b67e622918791/tumblr_mi6yk8vrN61rxwjfno1_1280.png)


Not sure that qualifies other than telling a story about bad SJ.
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/cbaac6dec4566c65ea99b655dd0fb572/tumblr_mfvqk6K7Jw1ryeto5o1_500.png)

Wow, this one is sexist towards men (the 'they can't be raped' thing) and women (by saying only men can defend themselves). I wonder if these people realize they're hurting their cause more than they're helping it.

Basically.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 12, 2013, 11:09:09 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/b20059fa150a3f5d432ca5b9bd339ece/tumblr_mo1xcoPl9v1ryeto5o1_400.png)

(http://media.tumblr.com/c2341a1e39c79d8fb7d4361d12891df9/tumblr_inline_mo0390rvw11qz4rgp.png)
(http://media.tumblr.com/427cbfcc51d57c42fb2c74d00b750aa6/tumblr_inline_mo0392V5w91qz4rgp.png)
(http://media.tumblr.com/258115eab4ff7a29c56d5025d7b6b922/tumblr_inline_mo03970Kd31qz4rgp.png)
(http://media.tumblr.com/62856d95b6a57044ec867dde6ab35335/tumblr_inline_mo03bcGIyY1qz4rgp.png)
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 12, 2013, 11:16:32 am
I'm ableist against myself? Internalized ableism? ???
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: wrightway on July 12, 2013, 11:19:13 am
I'm ableist against myself? Internalized ableism? ???

So, you're an ableist Uncle Tom?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Commissar Kaz on July 12, 2013, 11:28:22 am
I don't think I've ever heard of any actual disabled people get angry at someone walking up a flight of stairs or something like that.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: wrightway on July 12, 2013, 11:33:36 am
That cartoon had to do with what a moron the guy in blue is. It's typical SJW thinking. Whine and bitch about things that mean nothing (Oh my god, you called someone an idiot! Don't you know that's ableist against the cognitively challenged?!) And ignore real problems (gee, where's the wheelchair ramp?).
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Distind on July 12, 2013, 11:38:54 am
I don't think I've ever heard of any actual disabled people get angry at someone walking up a flight of stairs or something like that.
I've seen it, but it takes a special kind of asshole to do it. Typically involves someone using the phrase "Hey look at what I can do". Turns out the answer was fall down the stairs when three people decide to push you back down them at the same time.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Commissar Kaz on July 12, 2013, 11:41:39 am
That cartoon had to do with what a moron the guy in blue is. It's typical SJW thinking. Whine and bitch about things that mean nothing (Oh my god, you called someone an idiot! Don't you know that's ableist against the cognitively challenged?!) And ignore real problems (gee, where's the wheelchair ramp?).

I know, I was talking more generally rather than in response to that picture.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 12, 2013, 11:48:50 am
I'm ableist against myself? Internalized ableism? ???

So, you're an ableist Uncle Tom?

Apparently. Learn something new every day.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Kain on July 12, 2013, 12:05:47 pm
Yeah, honestly, what's that doing in the 'Worst' thread? From here, it seemed to make a good point.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Lithp on July 12, 2013, 12:25:08 pm
I think that the second picture was a response to the first.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 12, 2013, 01:03:47 pm
Yeah, honestly, what's that doing in the 'Worst' thread? From here, it seemed to make a good point.

I was using the comic as a response.
Also this:
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dudes wanna posture with guns and weapons about ‘smashing teh patriarchy’, blow off your dicks or whatever other genitalia you have with them
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Kain on July 12, 2013, 02:15:39 pm
Yeah, honestly, what's that doing in the 'Worst' thread? From here, it seemed to make a good point.

I was using the comic as a response.
Also this:
Quote
dudes wanna posture with guns and weapons about ‘smashing teh patriarchy’, blow off your dicks or whatever other genitalia you have with them

Oh. Well, that'll teach me for not looking.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Damen on July 12, 2013, 04:19:07 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/cbaac6dec4566c65ea99b655dd0fb572/tumblr_mfvqk6K7Jw1ryeto5o1_500.png)

Wow, this one is sexist towards men (the 'they can't be raped' thing) and women (by saying only men can defend themselves). I wonder if these people realize they're hurting their cause more than they're helping it.

I wonder if she realizes she's a rape apologist.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 12, 2013, 04:34:30 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbnkhcWhmO1rxv81fo1_500.png)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbh9osp0i21rxv81fo1_500.png)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb8ovwUZ4S1rxv81fo1_500.png)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb8omm8mkW1rurxygo7_500.png)
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Clochette on July 12, 2013, 05:32:27 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/1b711baf32bd9600143562762f8c6943/tumblr_mglch301Q31ryeto5o1_500.png)
Oh please, nobody ever gets my last name right (it is in German), and even my best friend, who has a common German last name, has the same problem. For first names, I'd like you to know that psychologists conducted studies that proved "ethnic" names make you less likely to get hired, even if you have the exact same resume as a non-ethnic named person. So, yes, it's a problem. You can help your children by not naming them those.

My surname is either Russian, Belarusian, Ukrainian, or Polish, and nobody in my family really knows how to pronounce it. I'm going to change it to my husband's partly because I imagine people looking at my resume and saying "How the fuck do you say this? Denied."
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: ironbite on July 12, 2013, 06:31:38 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbnkhcWhmO1rxv81fo1_500.png)


Um....Ahh....I....

Ironbite-*gives up and walks away*
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Flying Mint Bunny! on July 12, 2013, 06:34:32 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/1b711baf32bd9600143562762f8c6943/tumblr_mglch301Q31ryeto5o1_500.png)
Oh please, nobody ever gets my last name right (it is in German), and even my best friend, who has a common German last name, has the same problem. For first names, I'd like you to know that psychologists conducted studies that proved "ethnic" names make you less likely to get hired, even if you have the exact same resume as a non-ethnic named person. So, yes, it's a problem. You can help your children by not naming them those.

My surname is either Russian, Belarusian, Ukrainian, or Polish, and nobody in my family really knows how to pronounce it. I'm going to change it to my husband's partly because I imagine people looking at my resume and saying "How the fuck do you say this? Denied."

I'm white and I have an unusual first name that people pronounce and spell wrong all the time. It's confused a lot with another more common name as well.

Clearly I need to lodge a complaint with the White-archy.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 12, 2013, 06:47:08 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma0deyDS1v1rclv50o1_400.png)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mam79xz9hE1qk4o4zo1_500.jpg)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbnk8fPeRd1rxv81fo1_500.png)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb188kLaFZ1rxv81fo1_500.png)
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Iosa the Invincible on July 12, 2013, 07:15:20 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma0deyDS1v1rclv50o1_400.png)

How dare you suffer from mental illness and depression and be white at the same time!  How dare you feel bad about anything ever!  You don't have the right to feel negative emotions when you're white!  You're not allowed to commit suicide if I decide I can't any visible reason for you to do so!
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 12, 2013, 07:26:36 pm
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How dare you suffer from mental illness and depression and be white at the same time!  How dare you feel bad about anything ever!  You don't have the right to feel negative emotions when you're white!  You're not allowed to commit suicide if I decide I can't any visible reason for you to do so!
Yeah, that person's just disgusting. And, another thing, triggers. SJ types don't know what a fucking trigger is. It's not being mildly annoyed. It's something that makes you break down. For example, my best friend blames herself for a close friend's death. She's not remotely responsible, but she refuses to listen to logic (she was here in NY, he was in England, and she made a death joke the last time she talked to him, and he got run over by a British cop who was driving drunk stepping out of his house). I've only known her to cry three times (she prides herself in being extremely in control of her emotions and is the stoic one usually), one was of joy, one was while talking two friends out of suicide at once, and one when she was triggered. She just curled up and was speechless, just crying. THAT IS A MOTHERFUCKING TRIGGER! When someone says they're triggered, unless it's something that severe, it's not a motherfucking trigger, you cockwagons.

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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 12, 2013, 08:35:15 pm
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Oh, do shut up. How many people even refer to the genitals as 'sex' anymore to even get you this bitchy about it? Referring to the private area as 'sex' is outdated, that's true. So shut up about it. Goddamn. 

Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 12, 2013, 08:44:43 pm
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Oh, do shut up. How many people even refer to the genitals as 'sex' anymore to even get you this bitchy about it? Referring to the private area as 'sex' is outdated, that's true. So shut up about it. Goddamn.
Caps lock = glossing over it.

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So, if cissexism is hating on trans* people, that makes you a transsexist.

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Um, what about the LGB people?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 12, 2013, 08:58:39 pm
The mods at dearcispeople apparently have a thing where they don't reject entries. A lot of confessions blog claim that, tho.

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I will not censor any content. This is a place to vent. This has restrictions, however: racism will not get posted. Apologizing for anger and invalidating others will not be posted. Throwing your brothers, sisters, and other siblings under the bus will not be posted.

But I really think that entry above should violate 'invalidating others' and 'throwing people under the bus'. But what do I know?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 12, 2013, 09:27:06 pm
The mods at dearcispeople apparently have a thing where they don't reject entries. A lot of confessions blog claim that, tho.

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I will not censor any content. This is a place to vent. This has restrictions, however: racism will not get posted. Apologizing for anger and invalidating others will not be posted. Throwing your brothers, sisters, and other siblings under the bus will not be posted.

But I really think that entry above should violate 'invalidating others' and 'throwing people under the bus'. But what do I know?
They're bigots. Pure and simple.

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My eyes!

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Not a motherfucking trigger.


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Oh, you're just butthurt.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: niam2023 on July 12, 2013, 09:35:22 pm
I updated my blog. Still no angry Social Justice Warriors. Am I doing something wrong?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 12, 2013, 09:36:07 pm
I updated my blog. Still no angry Social Justice Warriors. Am I doing something wrong?

You need to find the right tags.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 12, 2013, 09:51:41 pm
I updated my blog. Still no angry Social Justice Warriors. Am I doing something wrong?

You need to find the right tags.
Yeah, start tagging it with their stuff.

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It's the Trent Reznor hair that completes it.

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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: niam2023 on July 12, 2013, 10:26:04 pm
I added a whole bunch of tags in order to get their attention.

The raeg will be glorious.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Søren on July 12, 2013, 10:32:53 pm
I updated my blog. Still no angry Social Justice Warriors. Am I doing something wrong?

I took a look and its WAY too obvious that youre trolling
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: LeTipex on July 12, 2013, 10:43:30 pm
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So, wait, if I read this right, vegan bodies do not have meat in them? So I can eat a vegan and stay vegan? That's useful to know.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 12, 2013, 10:46:13 pm
That fictive one reminds me of a post I saw where someone identified as a spatula.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 12, 2013, 10:52:40 pm
Did his girlfriend identify as a pancake?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Commissar Kaz on July 12, 2013, 10:57:43 pm
I wanna see someone identify as a corpse.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 12, 2013, 11:07:09 pm
That can be arranged...
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 12, 2013, 11:15:14 pm
During a debate with another blogger Genderbitch made some pretty cruel "jokes" about torturing them.

http://luckythinks91.tumblr.com/post/55108977053/tw-racism-hey-heres-a-suggestion

Instead of admitting that she did something fucked up and apologizing (like any decent person would do) she attempts to make herself look like the victim.

http://requiemforadeathmask.tumblr.com/post/55309702500/guys-these-morons-are-claiming-i-specifically
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 12, 2013, 11:24:59 pm
Genderbitch is basically everything wrong with SJWs condensed into one horrific blog.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 12, 2013, 11:31:54 pm
I updated my blog. Still no angry Social Justice Warriors. Am I doing something wrong?

You need to find the right tags.

Also, it helps to not be so obvious. Or you can pick a fight with someone like genderbitch if you're really that damn hungry.

As for the writing itself, it's a bit obvious that you're trolling. Not to mention you need to put more into the blog than just the default tumblr theme and 'I talk about stuff here' on your description. You want to poke at SJWs? Put some effort into it. Make links to an about me. Fill it out. Reblog stuff once in a while. As it is your blog is dead and nobody gives a damn about a dead looking blog.

You also need to spend more time on tumblr than the five minutes it takes to craft a post.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Sigmaleph on July 13, 2013, 12:12:46 am
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Foolish mortals. In my encounters with the forbidden lore that is Biology, I have learnt horrifying secrets:

1. The kingdoms of life extend beyond Animalia, and include, amongst others,  Plantae and Fungi. That which vegans eat, is also alive.

2. Even worse, you are a heterotroph. Not only is a vegan diet not enough, there is no diet that you can adopt that will let you survive without consuming life.

3. Vegans are still animals, and thus the proteins in their system are just as much meat-protein as those of the vilest carnivore.


Want to claim you value  all life equally? Antibiotics kill quite a few orders of magnitude more living beings than non-vegan diets. Either campaign against them, or admit that your give different moral weights to life by species, and you are, for whatever reason, setting animals aside as special.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 13, 2013, 12:16:26 am
I updated my blog. Still no angry Social Justice Warriors. Am I doing something wrong?

I took a look and its WAY too obvious that youre trolling
They're SJW. They're too stupid to notice.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Damen on July 13, 2013, 12:31:15 am
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Delicious racism early in the morning, I see.

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I'm curious, when did "being a feminist" start meaning "be a misandrist"?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Commissar Kaz on July 13, 2013, 12:35:06 am
I'm curious, when did "being a feminist" start meaning "be a misandrist"?

When they decided they want to reverse the scales instead of balance them.

Also, protip to that person: never have kids.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 13, 2013, 12:43:23 am
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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: niam2023 on July 13, 2013, 01:33:00 am
I've added a link to an About Me, and reblogged several times.

I have based my entire persona on a Jerk Jock I used to know.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 13, 2013, 03:39:47 am
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He's a dick. That doesn't make it an ism.

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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Jack Mann on July 13, 2013, 07:33:32 pm
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Funny thing.  Chiropractic was invented by a white man.

A crazy, lunatic white man.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 13, 2013, 07:43:46 pm
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Ahem, the male reminds me of Doctor Ivo Robotnik from Adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 13, 2013, 07:55:55 pm
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"You must like exactly what I do and write exactly as I would and look exactly as I want or you are a bad author."
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 13, 2013, 07:58:43 pm
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"You must like exactly what I do and write exactly as I would and look exactly as I want or you are a bad author."
Yeppers! That's clearly logical.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Sigmaleph on July 13, 2013, 07:58:58 pm
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Seems a pretty harmless joke...
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 13, 2013, 08:00:35 pm
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Seems a pretty harmless joke...
It is pretty minor and harmless, just thought it was silly and I don't want every single image to destroy people's faith in humanity.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 13, 2013, 08:06:36 pm
The thing with blogs like 'you know you're trans* when' is that the blog makers themselves don't come up with the entries. These things could be something only a handful of people relate to. Something to keep in mind.

I admittedly have related to a few of their entries.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 13, 2013, 08:35:16 pm
The thing with blogs like 'you know you're trans* when' is that the blog makers themselves don't come up with the entries. These things could be something only a handful of people relate to. Something to keep in mind.

I admittedly have related to a few of their entries.
True, and I know they don't make them. I'm not against the blog. Just against some submitters.

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You might be pale blondes, but if you're oppressed, you're not white.

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Babble babble bitch bitch
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Jack Mann on July 13, 2013, 09:20:01 pm
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To be fair, Tolkien was pretty crap at storytelling.

On the other hand, I think you get a pass when you effectively define a genre for the next thirty years.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 13, 2013, 09:21:36 pm
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To be fair, Tolkien was pretty crap at storytelling.

On the other hand, I think you get a pass when you effectively define a genre for the next thirty years.

Replace Tolkien with 'Robert Jordan' and you get the gist of my opinion. You want long-winded? Jordan.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 13, 2013, 09:40:43 pm
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You might be pale blondes, but if you're oppressed, you're not white.

lolwat. The Sami are indigenous white Europeans, hence their primary locations. Yes, they're subject to a ton of discrimination (and the asker is a moron for disregarding that), but they're still easily one of the whitest ethnic groups on the planet. As far as I know (and please correct me if I'm wrong), a good chunk of what we consider to be white features originates with similar indigenous Europeans, as well as strong influences from the Romans, Greeks and other groups.

These people make it sound like white people beamed down to earth from space and invaded everywhere, with no indigenous lands of their own (insofar as any ethnic group can have indigenous lands outside of Africa).
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 13, 2013, 09:59:32 pm
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You might be pale blondes, but if you're oppressed, you're not white.

He's actually right and you're wrong. Fins were't considered white until the early 20th century. Whiteness isn't about colour, it's about social position.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_whiteness_in_the_United_States#Finnish_Americans
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 13, 2013, 10:08:38 pm
1) Most Sami consider themselves indigenous white Europeans, to the best of my knowledge.

2) You're trying to apply American racial dynamics to Europe, which really doesn't work. I've had my share of Americentrism on Tumblr, thank you.

3) What does cultural perception of Fins living in the US over a century ago have to do with a different (albeit related) ethnic group living in modern day Europe?

4) Who even uses the Caucasoid/Mongoloid/Negroid division anymore, other than neo-Nazis? By that classification, Arabs, Persians, and many South Asian ethnicities are considered "Caucasoid", even though they're frequently perceived as non-white many regions. Fins being classified as "Mongoloid" over a century ago hardly means anything nowadays. Fact is, pale skin, blonde hair and light eyes are almost universally perceived as white nowadays. It's cultural differences that lead to anti-Sami discrimination, not race.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 13, 2013, 10:37:23 pm
1) Most Sami consider themselves indigenous white Europeans, to the best of my knowledge.

2) You're trying to apply American racial dynamics to Europe, which really doesn't work. I've had my share of Americentrism on Tumblr, thank you.

3) What does cultural perception of Fins living in the US over a century ago have to do with a different (albeit related) ethnic group living in modern day Europe?

4) Who even uses the Caucasoid/Mongoloid/Negroid division anymore, other than neo-Nazis? By that classification, Arabs, Persians, and many South Asian ethnicities are considered "Caucasoid", even though they're frequently perceived as non-white many regions. Fins being classified as "Mongoloid" over a century ago hardly means anything nowadays.

In response to point 4: anthropologists do. My books had it in there. And considering they weren't old as fuck books...

That isn't to say I don't believe anthropology needs to get updated in their definitions and everything else.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 13, 2013, 10:42:07 pm
1) Most Sami consider themselves indigenous white Europeans, to the best of my knowledge.

2) You're trying to apply American racial dynamics to Europe, which really doesn't work. I've had my share of Americentrism on Tumblr, thank you.

3) What does cultural perception of Fins living in the US over a century ago have to do with a different (albeit related) ethnic group living in modern day Europe?

4) Who even uses the Caucasoid/Mongoloid/Negroid division anymore, other than neo-Nazis? By that classification, Arabs, Persians, and many South Asian ethnicities are considered "Caucasoid", even though they're frequently perceived as non-white many regions. Fins being classified as "Mongoloid" over a century ago hardly means anything nowadays.

In response to point 4: anthropologists do. My books had it in there. And considering they weren't old as fuck books...

That isn't to say I don't believe anthropology needs to get updated in their definitions and everything else.

I know it's sometimes used when identifying skull shapes and whatnot, but generally speaking, modern social dynamics are a bit more complex than the 3-race categorization formerly used. Which isn't to say that they haven't been influenced by it, of course.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 13, 2013, 11:08:38 pm
1) Most Sami consider themselves indigenous white Europeans, to the best of my knowledge.

2) You're trying to apply American racial dynamics to Europe, which really doesn't work. I've had my share of Americentrism on Tumblr, thank you.

3) What does cultural perception of Fins living in the US over a century ago have to do with a different (albeit related) ethnic group living in modern day Europe?

4) Who even uses the Caucasoid/Mongoloid/Negroid division anymore, other than neo-Nazis? By that classification, Arabs, Persians, and many South Asian ethnicities are considered "Caucasoid", even though they're frequently perceived as non-white many regions. Fins being classified as "Mongoloid" over a century ago hardly means anything nowadays.

In response to point 4: anthropologists do. My books had it in there. And considering they weren't old as fuck books...

That isn't to say I don't believe anthropology needs to get updated in their definitions and everything else.

I know it's sometimes used when identifying skull shapes and whatnot, but generally speaking, modern social dynamics are a bit more complex than the 3-race categorization formerly used. Which isn't to say that they haven't been influenced by it, of course.

On that I heartily agree.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 13, 2013, 11:28:46 pm
Whiteness isn't about colour, it's about social position.

I think if this was in the form of a screenshot from a random tumblr, it would be a highly appropriate quote to add to this thread.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 13, 2013, 11:37:52 pm
Like, I get that perception of whiteness is about more than how light or dark someone is (hence dark Sicilians being considered white, while someone like Ice-T isn't), but is anyone seriously going to look at this photo and say she's not white? Even if they're aware of her ancestry?:

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Did she magically become white when she became a famous actress?

And by that definition, this guy would be considered white:

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(Prince Abdulaziz of KSA).
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: wrightway on July 13, 2013, 11:43:36 pm
I'm a little late to the party but did I seriously see where someone claimed twerking is a sacred dance?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Jack Mann on July 13, 2013, 11:52:26 pm
It is similar to several traditional African dances, and the case can probably be made that it's descended from dances still remembered generations later.

That said, the person's story about slave codes is almost certainly pure bullshit.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 14, 2013, 12:20:22 am
Are these the same people who believe the Irish weren't really oppressed because their oppressors were also white people?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Askold on July 14, 2013, 01:53:59 am
Awww. I missed a discussion related to Finland. Or at least a cultural/ethnic group that some Finns belong to.

I still find it odd that Sami are considered "indigenous people" or "aboriginals" but that's just me. (Didn't my ancestors came here approximately at the same time?) I do like the fact that they have managed to keep their old culture alive this long. On the other hand, I do admit that there has been (and in some cases still is) discrimination against them, I would wish that it would be going away by now but the same racists who spew their hatred on immigrants have recently started complaining about the Sami as well. And even if I don't like the "indigenous people" to be a strange title in this case it is nowhere near as bad as the fact that some people have began to call Sami immigrants or foregneirs when there are arguments over land in Lappland...

And I would have thought that the Sami were more of a cultural group than ethnic (from the Finnish point of view at least since they are part of the same ethnic group as the majority of Finns.) but apparently some of them go by the "one drop" rule and ostracice those Sami who do not have 100% Sami ancestors... And some SJW's in Finland have jumped on this issue because it means they can complain about Finns being evil colonials.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 14, 2013, 08:16:14 am
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Okay, all I can imagine is Till Lindemann going "You've got a pussy! I've got a dick! So what's the problem? Let's do it quick!"
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Canadian Mojo on July 14, 2013, 02:45:21 pm
Awww. I missed a discussion related to Finland. Or at least a cultural/ethnic group that some Finns belong to.

I still find it odd that Sami are considered "indigenous people" or "aboriginals" but that's just me. (Didn't my ancestors came here approximately at the same time?) I do like the fact that they have managed to keep their old culture alive this long. On the other hand, I do admit that there has been (and in some cases still is) discrimination against them, I would wish that it would be going away by now but the same racists who spew their hatred on immigrants have recently started complaining about the Sami as well. And even if I don't like the "indigenous people" to be a strange title in this case it is nowhere near as bad as the fact that some people have began to call Sami immigrants or foregneirs when there are arguments over land in Lappland...

And I would have thought that the Sami were more of a cultural group than ethnic (from the Finnish point of view at least since they are part of the same ethnic group as the majority of Finns.) but apparently some of them go by the "one drop" rule and ostracice those Sami who do not have 100% Sami ancestors... And some SJW's in Finland have jumped on this issue because it means they can complain about Finns being evil colonials.

Given how small a group the Sami people are, there really is a danger of there being no true Sami, particularly if the ones in Finland think that they are a distinct group from the Sami living in other countries.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Damen on July 14, 2013, 02:55:18 pm
And now we're back to "coloured" instead of using "PoC" which, I'll be honest, was an abbreviation that made me think of a plague long before it made me think of non-white people.

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/7506d3f089e5e1825256084b6edcb996/tumblr_mpwh25kEg01ryeto5o1_1280.png)

You know, I can't think of anything to say that wasn't said by WTFSocialJustice (http://wtfsocialjustice.tumblr.com/post/55379422135/wow-theres-so-many-things-wrong-with-this-so).

Quote
Wow there’s so many things wrong with this:

  • So, is it ok to start calling people colored now? Please give out an official memo on this so we can end the confusion.
  • "Colored girls" are the same everywhere. When my white ex broke up with me, it was an act of racist imperialism. Or something. And at this rate, I figure I’ll never find a relationship in the rest of my life.
  • It’s never ok to force people into a relationship or sex. Unless it’s a white guy. Then he has to stay with you or he’s racist.
  • If white guys are so racist, why do “colored girls" still want to date them?
  • Breaking up with someone is just the worst thing you can do to them. It’s not like people are ever incompatible or anything.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 14, 2013, 03:16:20 pm
Judging by the "ou" spelling in "coloured", it's possible that she's from a region where the term is still acceptable.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Askold on July 14, 2013, 03:19:55 pm
Given how small a group the Sami people are, there really is a danger of there being no true Sami, particularly if the ones in Finland think that they are a distinct group from the Sami living in other countries.

Clarification: They don't consider themselves separate from other Sami. It is just that some of them are apparently against anyone who has parents/ancestors other than 100% Sami. Which, in my opinion is still odd because what separates them from the average Finn is tradition and Sami-identity rather than ethnicity/dna.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 14, 2013, 03:23:21 pm
I dunno, pretty much every ethnic group has its purists, almost always without any scientific backing to go along with their ideology. I would be surprised if the Sami didn't have a few amongst them who felt that way.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 14, 2013, 03:32:33 pm
Pfft, mongrels are better anyway. Mongrel power!
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on July 14, 2013, 03:40:08 pm
Pfft, mongrels are better anyway. Mongrel power!

Hybrid vigor is a good thing.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: niam2023 on July 14, 2013, 04:46:30 pm
http://humankimberly.tumblr.com/post/55134203936/real-beauty

Wow. Really?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: wrightway on July 14, 2013, 05:00:43 pm
http://humankimberly.tumblr.com/post/55134203936/real-beauty

Wow. Really?

Dafuq did I just look at?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 14, 2013, 05:11:23 pm
http://humankimberly.tumblr.com/post/55134203936/real-beauty

Wow. Really?

Dafuq did I just look at?

Probably the best joke post on Tumblr.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: wrightway on July 14, 2013, 05:30:42 pm
http://humankimberly.tumblr.com/post/55134203936/real-beauty

Wow. Really?

Dafuq did I just look at?

Probably the best joke post on Tumblr.

Eh, for me that will always be the guy who realized Michelle Obama looks like the black mom on Fairly Odd parents.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 14, 2013, 06:49:01 pm
Not really sure how a clear joke post qualifies but okay. lol
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 14, 2013, 08:30:27 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/03f4e857d010e51356c4232ff9a73f6d/tumblr_mfq4lrUi8y1ryeto5o1_500.png)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/ef752b72421c9175338ca5c988e52523/tumblr_mfocke2iNS1ryeto5o1_1280.png)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/ceb10b0effc3e6abff82aeae506aa5da/tumblr_mesry9sgmC1ryeto5o1_400.png)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/a8f92b810cbdfd00aded0e877c78cf5b/tumblr_mfq4soVyrN1ryeto5o1_1280.png)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/6539c47184ea5757b27230ddf0680a45/tumblr_mfobfgSj8y1ryeto5o1_500.png)
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Commissar Kaz on July 14, 2013, 08:41:56 pm
So if someone says they're pomosexual, I'll know what the really mean is that they want to be a special snowflake. Got it.

Being white, straight, and male, it bugs me that they think nobody else could be 'cis-scum.' I guess their head would explode if we showed them someone from the Middle East or Africa who is transphobic.

And in regards to the last one, if I were a better artist and someone told me that, I would respond by colouring in the picture a flat black colour just to spite them.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 14, 2013, 08:50:15 pm
So if someone says they're pomosexual, I'll know what the really mean is that they want to be a special snowflake. Got it.

Being white, straight, and male, it bugs me that they think nobody else could be 'cis-scum.' I guess their head would explode if we showed them someone from the Middle East or Africa who is transphobic.

And in regards to the last one, if I were a better artist and someone told me that, I would respond by colouring in the picture a flat black colour just to spite them.
I find it interesting that the SJWs can never agree if I count as cis-scum. I'm a bisexual white male. Some of them include the "straight" part, others don't. And, if someone says they're a pomosexual, I'm just going to reply "I'm a promosexual. I get turned on by advertisements. So ha, I'm specialer than you!" If they try rightly pointing out that there's no such thing, I'll just accuse them of being various things SJWs hate.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Commissar Kaz on July 14, 2013, 08:55:58 pm
I just don't understand the whole cis-scum thing at all. I can see being upset at transphobes, but hating me just because I'm fine with the sex I was born with and don't want to be a women? Wat.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Sigmaleph on July 14, 2013, 09:16:16 pm
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(http://25.media.tumblr.com/a8f92b810cbdfd00aded0e877c78cf5b/tumblr_mfq4soVyrN1ryeto5o1_1280.png)

That's the single most racist thing I've read in quite a long time, although admittedly I haven't been following the Zimmerman trial. Black people (and, implied, anyone who isn't a white straight man) can't make informed value judgements? Seriously? I assume this person is trying to be progressive by not calling an oppressed minority scum, which I guess is nice, but their argument for why is the most anti-social-justice reasoning ever. Denying a group of people the ability to have moral responsibility, for their ethnicity or gender or sexuality, in the name of social justice, is fucked up in more ways than I can count.


And I can count to a lot! I'm pretty good at math
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 14, 2013, 11:24:04 pm
Non girly women being badass is literally misogyny.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/e60f91eeb88b57dca3cfca8154614fa8/tumblr_moblzqFP8p1rmluldo1_500.png)
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Damen on July 14, 2013, 11:43:22 pm
Yes, because what Private Vasquez needed on her colonial marine uniform was pink fucking frills in order to be badass.

(http://www.craveonline.com/images/stories/2011/Film/The%20Series%20Project/Alien%20Predator/Aliens_Vasquez.jpg)
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: R. U. Sirius on July 15, 2013, 12:27:46 am
Non girly women being badass is literally misogyny.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/e60f91eeb88b57dca3cfca8154614fa8/tumblr_moblzqFP8p1rmluldo1_500.png)

While I think this woman made her point in a poor way, I can see why she wouldn't want magical girl animes that she enjoys to be redrawn with a "harder, tougher" edge. Part of the appeal of magical girls, from what I understand, is that they're badass against everyone's expectations. They're cute girls in frilly outfits, so nobody (in the anime) expects them to actually be able to kick ass until they do.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 15, 2013, 09:10:10 am
Quote
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/a8f92b810cbdfd00aded0e877c78cf5b/tumblr_mfq4soVyrN1ryeto5o1_1280.png)

That's the single most racist thing I've read in quite a long time, although admittedly I haven't been following the Zimmerman trial. Black people (and, implied, anyone who isn't a white straight man) can't make informed value judgements? Seriously? I assume this person is trying to be progressive by not calling an oppressed minority scum, which I guess is nice, but their argument for why is the most anti-social-justice reasoning ever. Denying a group of people the ability to have moral responsibility, for their ethnicity or gender or sexuality, in the name of social justice, is fucked up in more ways than I can count.


And I can count to a lot! I'm pretty good at math
Actually, and I only know this due to so much digging through this shit, they're saying they lack "cultural capital", or in other words, they're not powerful enough. Basically, they're too oppressed to be oppressors.

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/c82df28a43526f1762745eef5c37cb74/tumblr_mfoadmnhsb1ryeto5o1_500.png)
Hating first world problems is such a first world problem.

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/33e7aa22737dd5d81ea9184e9a1dd171/tumblr_mfo8vpbinw1ryeto5o1_1280.png)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/9e498333d74af7cad27406ba7a28eee5/tumblr_mescvlgT301ryeto5o1_500.png)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/7417baf77820e66d50117c7cdcd1b415/tumblr_mep7pizYrG1ryeto5o1_1280.jpg)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/0bb8e1c13c39402ed6ba04141532d5c0/tumblr_mep78zg71y1ryeto5o1_1280.png)
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Sigmaleph on July 15, 2013, 09:49:21 am
Quote
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/a8f92b810cbdfd00aded0e877c78cf5b/tumblr_mfq4soVyrN1ryeto5o1_1280.png)

That's the single most racist thing I've read in quite a long time, although admittedly I haven't been following the Zimmerman trial. Black people (and, implied, anyone who isn't a white straight man) can't make informed value judgements? Seriously? I assume this person is trying to be progressive by not calling an oppressed minority scum, which I guess is nice, but their argument for why is the most anti-social-justice reasoning ever. Denying a group of people the ability to have moral responsibility, for their ethnicity or gender or sexuality, in the name of social justice, is fucked up in more ways than I can count.


And I can count to a lot! I'm pretty good at math
Actually, and I only know this due to so much digging through this shit, they're saying they lack "cultural capital", or in other words, they're not powerful enough. Basically, they're too oppressed to be oppressors.

They are also saying they can't make informed value judgements. Either value judgement means a completely different thing in their jargon, or they are straight-up saying that "[oppressed minority] can't make informed decisions about right and wrong"
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Art Vandelay on July 15, 2013, 09:56:49 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/7417baf77820e66d50117c7cdcd1b415/tumblr_mep7pizYrG1ryeto5o1_1280.jpg)
So you mean to tell me that I can eat just a handful of bread crumbs and salt soaked in olive oil and lemon juice and it'll taste exactly the same as chicken schnitzel? Well gee, why was I not informed of this sooner?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: ironbite on July 15, 2013, 10:11:30 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/7417baf77820e66d50117c7cdcd1b415/tumblr_mep7pizYrG1ryeto5o1_1280.jpg)
So you mean to tell me that I can eat just a handful of bread crumbs and salt soaked in olive oil and lemon juice and it'll taste exactly the same as chicken schnitzel? Well gee, why was I not informed of this sooner?

I'm sorry but...salt is a rock.

Ironbite-not a plant.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Art Vandelay on July 15, 2013, 11:08:51 am
I'm sorry but...salt is a rock.

Ironbite-not a plant.
Don't look at me, it was listed in the macro. Just using their own logic.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Commissar Kaz on July 15, 2013, 11:45:38 am
Seeing as they said to eat it uncooked, heat is apparently a plant now.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Flying Mint Bunny! on July 15, 2013, 01:28:55 pm
So is it wrong to eat potatoes as well?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 15, 2013, 01:41:25 pm

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/0bb8e1c13c39402ed6ba04141532d5c0/tumblr_mep78zg71y1ryeto5o1_1280.png)

I want to say that's Riley but I think I'm wrong. In either case: WHO HAS TIME TO CHECK EVERY SINGLE PERSON'S BLOG WHEN THEY LIKE/REBLOG SOMETHING? If I did that for my edits I'd have no time to make new ones.

And who made you the blog police? You can't stop someone from liking/reblogging something. Now, maybe if tumblr had a better block system that'd be another thing entirely but no.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Her3tiK on July 15, 2013, 01:55:09 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/7417baf77820e66d50117c7cdcd1b415/tumblr_mep7pizYrG1ryeto5o1_1280.jpg)
So you mean to tell me that I can eat just a handful of bread crumbs and salt soaked in olive oil and lemon juice and it'll taste exactly the same as chicken schnitzel? Well gee, why was I not informed of this sooner?

I'm sorry but...salt is a rock.

Ironbite-not a plant.
Shhhhh. Facts are confusing.

I am so glad I was never like this as a vegetarian.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: ironbite on July 15, 2013, 01:58:39 pm

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/0bb8e1c13c39402ed6ba04141532d5c0/tumblr_mep78zg71y1ryeto5o1_1280.png)

I want to say that's Riley but I think I'm wrong. In either case: WHO HAS TIME TO CHECK EVERY SINGLE PERSON'S BLOG WHEN THEY LIKE/REBLOG SOMETHING? If I did that for my edits I'd have no time to make new ones.

And who made you the blog police? You can't stop someone from liking/reblogging something. Now, maybe if tumblr had a better block system that'd be another thing entirely but no.

That's not the point.  The point is a whole generation of special snowflakes have invaded social media again and it's the same old song and dance.

Ironbite-they expect everyone to play by their rules but never tell us what the rules are.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Distind on July 15, 2013, 02:01:38 pm
That's not the point.  The point is a whole generation of special snowflakes have invaded social media again and it's the same old song and dance.

Ironbite-they expect everyone to play by their rules but never tell us what the rules are.
The rules are there are no rules.

Except existing rules all suck and must be subverted.

Also anything resembling an assumed normalcy is to be reviled and treated as we assume they treat us.  Regardless of the baseless nature of those assumptions.

I'm not really kidding either, that seems to be it. Toss in some special snowflake seasoning and that's a wonderful framework to know what to expect.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 15, 2013, 02:01:59 pm
What do you mean 'again'? And... all right. I guess?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: ironbite on July 15, 2013, 02:05:24 pm
Again?  Man did you not grow up in the last great social media implementation that was Livejournal?

Ironbite-or am I just that old?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 15, 2013, 02:12:44 pm
I was on livejournal but it wasn't exactly social media in the same way tumblr is. And I usually kept to myself.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 15, 2013, 02:23:32 pm
Again?  Man did you not grow up in the last great social media implementation that was Livejournal?

Ironbite-or am I just that old?

Oh dear god I remember hearing about stuff that went on LJ.

I don't remember what I heard, but I do remembering hearing about it.

It was one of the reasons I was always hesitant to use it.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: MadmanJohnson on July 15, 2013, 03:03:28 pm
Again?  Man did you not grow up in the last great social media implementation that was Livejournal?

Ironbite-or am I just that old?

Oh dear god I remember hearing about stuff that went on LJ.

I don't remember what I heard, but I do remembering hearing about it.

It was one of the reasons I was always hesitant to use it.
That's not all. A little quote from the wikipedia page for it about a interview with the current owner.
Quote
In the interview, he predicted that his likely reaction to such pressure would be to retaliate against the users rather than bowing to their pressure.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Iosa the Invincible on July 15, 2013, 03:45:52 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/7417baf77820e66d50117c7cdcd1b415/tumblr_mep7pizYrG1ryeto5o1_1280.jpg)
So you mean to tell me that I can eat just a handful of bread crumbs and salt soaked in olive oil and lemon juice and it'll taste exactly the same as chicken schnitzel? Well gee, why was I not informed of this sooner?

I'm sorry but...salt is a rock.

Ironbite-not a plant.
Shhhhh. Facts are confusing.

I am so glad I was never like this as a vegetarian.

Yeah, because it's not like people put seasonings and dressings on vegetables or anything.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Clochette on July 15, 2013, 03:49:15 pm
I'm a vegetarian but I absolutely hate raw vegetables. I'll happily eat cooked vegetables that are drowned in spices or sauce.

It's disappointing to me when other vegetarians use silly arguments like that. It causes animal rights to be taken less seriously.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: wrightway on July 15, 2013, 03:54:28 pm
Again?  Man did you not grow up in the last great social media implementation that was Livejournal?

Ironbite-or am I just that old?

Oh dear god I remember hearing about stuff that went on LJ.

I don't remember what I heard, but I do remembering hearing about it.

It was one of the reasons I was always hesitant to use it.

Went....on?

As one of the livejournal dinosaurs I can tell you it's still a bastion of nuttery, social justice sad sacks, and stalking. While 9/10 of the user base is normal they're hidden by the wankmemes and freaky brats screaming "trigger!!111!!!" and telling people that trans people are bullied there for they can not be bullies.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 15, 2013, 05:13:43 pm
So basically tumblr has just become an extension of LJ then.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: R. U. Sirius on July 15, 2013, 07:09:58 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/7417baf77820e66d50117c7cdcd1b415/tumblr_mep7pizYrG1ryeto5o1_1280.jpg)
So you mean to tell me that I can eat just a handful of bread crumbs and salt soaked in olive oil and lemon juice and it'll taste exactly the same as chicken schnitzel? Well gee, why was I not informed of this sooner?

I'm sorry but...salt is a rock.

Ironbite-not a plant.
Shhhhh. Facts are confusing.

I am so glad I was never like this as a vegetarian.

Yeah, because it's not like people put seasonings and dressings on vegetables or anything.

I actually have eaten meat with no seasonings before, just to see what it would taste like. I still enjoyed it.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 15, 2013, 07:46:34 pm
Quote
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/a8f92b810cbdfd00aded0e877c78cf5b/tumblr_mfq4soVyrN1ryeto5o1_1280.png)

That's the single most racist thing I've read in quite a long time, although admittedly I haven't been following the Zimmerman trial. Black people (and, implied, anyone who isn't a white straight man) can't make informed value judgements? Seriously? I assume this person is trying to be progressive by not calling an oppressed minority scum, which I guess is nice, but their argument for why is the most anti-social-justice reasoning ever. Denying a group of people the ability to have moral responsibility, for their ethnicity or gender or sexuality, in the name of social justice, is fucked up in more ways than I can count.


And I can count to a lot! I'm pretty good at math
Actually, and I only know this due to so much digging through this shit, they're saying they lack "cultural capital", or in other words, they're not powerful enough. Basically, they're too oppressed to be oppressors.

They are also saying they can't make informed value judgements. Either value judgement means a completely different thing in their jargon, or they are straight-up saying that "[oppressed minority] can't make informed decisions about right and wrong"
I don't really have a reply to that, but the information I'm going to post is related, so I'm quoting. My father works with the mentally disabled, and is now in a management position at his job. They have him taking online college classes (that they pay for) so he will be able to move further up. I was getting food, and overheard it, and so went to check it out. They were teaching about cultural capital (with those actual words, no less), and how privileged people have their thoughts given more weight than unprivileged people. So, yeah.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: JohnE on July 15, 2013, 07:50:01 pm
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(http://25.media.tumblr.com/7417baf77820e66d50117c7cdcd1b415/tumblr_mep7pizYrG1ryeto5o1_1280.jpg)
Sushi.

Your argument is invalid.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Sigmaleph on July 15, 2013, 08:16:36 pm
...sushi is typically eaten wrapped in rice.

You could make the argument for sashimi, though.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: JohnE on July 15, 2013, 09:04:18 pm
Even so, rice doesn't have much of any flavor by itself. The meat is (depending on the specific dish), uncooked and unseasoned.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 15, 2013, 10:12:38 pm
Return of the Hookah Avengers:

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/9e3e023274faa4967d5e8d87d27add38/tumblr_mpt7s98ctz1ryeto5o1_500.png)

Also these:

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/1fd74db318927beef6d49cbc06d5737c/tumblr_mp8tu0baZf1rmluldo1_1280.png)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/e45c6df45575826d71b0836b3a9ba532/tumblr_mpxs376IgM1ryeto5o1_500.png)
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 15, 2013, 10:37:48 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/786de816a85e78c97ff8a4075e72c0b7/tumblr_mf3ugqFzBX1ryeto5o1_500.png)
Split personality of THE ANDROMEDA GALAXY. You've got to be kidding me.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/36492468e5378fe994cc462dceac0395/tumblr_mfobt4z9ii1ryeto5o1_500.png)
Autosexuality

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_medbqjjb5p1ryeto5o1_1280.jpg)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_medbjnB0Re1ryeto5o1_1280.png)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_medaabUDab1ryeto5o1_1280.png)
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Askold on July 15, 2013, 10:44:51 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/786de816a85e78c97ff8a4075e72c0b7/tumblr_mf3ugqFzBX1ryeto5o1_500.png)
Split personality of THE ANDROMEDA GALAXY. You've got to be kidding me.
My first assumption was that he had a split personality of a jedi...
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 15, 2013, 10:45:23 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/786de816a85e78c97ff8a4075e72c0b7/tumblr_mf3ugqFzBX1ryeto5o1_500.png)
Split personality of THE ANDROMEDA GALAXY. You've got to be kidding me.

The dude who claimed to have an entire universe in his head was even better.

Also that chick who claimed to have The Doctor in her head.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: wrightway on July 15, 2013, 11:13:28 pm
So basically tumblr has just become an extension of LJ then.

Tumblr is livejournal's bastard child. There was a lot of hope in a lot of writing communities that once crossover between the two became large scale the wank would stop. Nope. All that happened was that the old wank got a new audience. And the triggers got weirder. One group I was on eons ago had a woman who claimed to have served in the army and suffered from PTSD as an aftereffect. She had a trigger that she would babble about for days if someone posted something without a warning. It wasn't rape, guro, or anything you would expect would trigger an army vet. It was mpreg. On livejournal she became the butt of a "sex makes babbies" joke. On tumblr she is viewed as a proud feminist of the third wave who is defending our female identity. Even though she's been known to trash women who have children for drinking the patriarchal koolaid.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Sigmaleph on July 15, 2013, 11:21:02 pm
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(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_medbjnB0Re1ryeto5o1_1280.png)

I can understand the frustration...
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: wrightway on July 15, 2013, 11:29:24 pm
I've got to ask: If I tell the "mpreg makes me foam and shake like the woman from Jesus Camp" bitch that if a transman were to be raped and become pregnant technically that's mpreg, am I justified or being bitchy?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 15, 2013, 11:31:12 pm
I've got to ask: If I tell the "mpreg makes me foam and shake like the woman from Jesus Camp" bitch that if a transman were to be raped and become pregnant technically that's mpreg, am I justified or being bitchy?

What kind of incident in the military has resulted in her PTSD being triggered by Junior?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: wrightway on July 15, 2013, 11:53:32 pm
I've got to ask: If I tell the "mpreg makes me foam and shake like the woman from Jesus Camp" bitch that if a transman were to be raped and become pregnant technically that's mpreg, am I justified or being bitchy?

What kind of incident in the military has resulted in her PTSD being triggered by Junior?

The hell if I know. It's her excuse. "I have PTSD, therefore I have real triggers. I find mpreg icky and an insult to my brand of feminism. I'm going to scream trigger about mpreg because most of these idiots don't know what a real trigger is," seemed to be her line of thinking.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: RavynousHunter on July 16, 2013, 12:24:45 am
I can't stand the thought of knocking a girl up because that shit is, quite honestly, horrifying beyond belief, to me.  Give proof that its a proper trigger for you, and maybe I'd believe ya.  Until then, you're a fuckin poser.

Back to your regularly scheduled programming!
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 16, 2013, 12:58:25 am
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So I went to the grocery store today. I got to the checkout counter, and the person ringing me up was a man. He kept staring at me like I was a fucking piece of meat, and then after I sat my money down on the counter, he tried to give me my change by putting it in my hand. I told him to set my change down on the counter, because I don’t want him to touch me, and he made a funny face, and somewhat of a silent fuss over it (probably because that trash wanted to touch me) and so I did what I always do when barraged by the reality of the male gaze.

I spit in his fucking face and told him to stop touching me, and to stop staring at my tits.

A woman came over (who was the manager thank god) and I told her that this employee was trying to touch me inappropriately, and kept staring at me in a lewd manner, and I walked off.

Hope he got fired.


I highly doubt this happened.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 16, 2013, 01:06:08 am
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So I went to the grocery store today. I got to the checkout counter, and the person ringing me up was a man some awkward teenage boy. He kept staring at me like I was a fucking piece of meat due to the angry glares I was giving him, and then after I sat my money down on the counter, he tried to give me my change by putting it in my hand as is typically expected of cashiers in almost every store. I told him to set my change down on the counter, because I don’t want him to touch me, and he made a funny face, and somewhat of a silent fuss over it (probably because that trash wanted to touch me) stared at him until he put the change on the counter and so I did what I always do when barraged by the reality of the male gaze.

I spit in his fucking face and told him to stop touching me, and to stop staring at my tits.

A woman came over (who was the manager thank god) and I told her that this employee was trying to touch me inappropriately, and kept staring at me in a lewd manner, and I walked off.
walked out of the store, silently fuming and composing this Tumblr post in my head.

Hope he got fired.


What actually happened.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 16, 2013, 01:14:41 am
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(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_medbjnB0Re1ryeto5o1_1280.png)

I can understand the frustration...

Every day? I'd probably get frustrated and dismayed, too. But at some point I might try actually being helpful for once and try to point things out in a calm, collected, rational manner.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 16, 2013, 01:16:04 am
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So I went to the grocery store today. I got to the checkout counter, and the person ringing me up was a man. He kept staring at me like I was a fucking piece of meat, and then after I sat my money down on the counter, he tried to give me my change by putting it in my hand. I told him to set my change down on the counter, because I don’t want him to touch me, and he made a funny face, and somewhat of a silent fuss over it (probably because that trash wanted to touch me) and so I did what I always do when barraged by the reality of the male gaze.

I spit in his fucking face and told him to stop touching me, and to stop staring at my tits.

A woman came over (who was the manager thank god) and I told her that this employee was trying to touch me inappropriately, and kept staring at me in a lewd manner, and I walked off.

Hope he got fired.

Highly implausible. But if she IS telling the truth, then she's admitting to committing assault and this can be used as evidence against her if the employee wished to press charges.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 16, 2013, 12:52:15 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/786de816a85e78c97ff8a4075e72c0b7/tumblr_mf3ugqFzBX1ryeto5o1_500.png)
Split personality of THE ANDROMEDA GALAXY. You've got to be kidding me.
My first assumption was that he had a split personality of a jedi...
Well, their name is AndromedaLovesYou. So yeah.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/f2b25d1aa7b1a679450dac02e581da7d/tumblr_mesczzsuSf1ryeto5o1_500.gif)
Reasonable until the people going around it.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/213a688fe3cac9b37a5f8afab13a8818/tumblr_mevvi2qqkD1ryeto5o1_1280.png)
Outside of Germany, Finland and Sweden's tendency to put out awesome metal, fuck no. I'm sure Germany and Spain are SO FUCKING SIMILAR.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/a9ad19e0d03b8442afa7a21116c05be6/tumblr_mfid7s5qi81ryeto5o1_1280.png)
Ugg, this idiot. Uggs are horrible (it's the sound you make when sicked for fuck's sake), but not for that.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mekw3zF3qi1ryeto5o1_500.png)
Yep, no use for cispeople at all.

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mejlfiZmzn1ryeto5o1_1280.png)
That's casual sexism, sure, but not heterosexism. If the boyfriend and the girlfriend know about each other, good on you though. I've always been fine that. If not, you're a cheating dick, you cheating dick. Basically, this could have been a good post if the poster had focused on the real issue, the casual sexism, not the "heterosexism" (is that the same as homophobia, and if so, can we hit them for being confusing?), since statistically, you're likely to be straight.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Igor on July 16, 2013, 01:06:20 pm

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/f2b25d1aa7b1a679450dac02e581da7d/tumblr_mesczzsuSf1ryeto5o1_500.gif)
Reasonable until the people going around it.
Picky point about this, the comic isn't saying "respect my phantom wing and go around it", it's saying that sometimes it seems like other people notice it and go around it anyway. Note that it's right after the line "there are odd exceptions [to it not being a physical thing]" (Also not social justice-y, really. If you read it, that comic is largely an explanation of what it's like to be a therian. I was actually gonna post a few of the comics in my thread at some point before arguments happened.)
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on July 16, 2013, 01:39:17 pm
Comparing otherkin and therianthropy to phantom limbs? plz no
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Igor on July 16, 2013, 01:45:19 pm
Actually, it's.. kind of a thing. You can call me crazy or say I have an overactive imagination or whatever, but I have experienced this to a degree.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 16, 2013, 02:00:51 pm
http://little-missandry.tumblr.com/

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Anonymous asked: Would you do porn?

No. The porn industry is inherently misogynistic. Every porn actress is abused in some way, shape, or form. They are literally raped for your entertainment.

You sicken me.

Emphasis theirs.

Regarding an 8-year-old autistic boy who was raped:

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Except males can’t be raped. sorry.

Yes, it’s horrible what happened to him, but this is more ableism than anything.

But don’t you dare equate the rape of women to sexual assault of males. They are not the same thing. Let me say that again:

They are not the same thing.

There's more, but I can't stand going through this hateful shit anymore.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: ironbite on July 16, 2013, 02:27:37 pm
.....oh dear someone needs to be told the definition of the word RAPE!
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Damen on July 16, 2013, 02:33:15 pm
http://little-missandry.tumblr.com/

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Anonymous asked: Would you do porn?

No. The porn industry is inherently misogynistic. Every porn actress is abused in some way, shape, or form. They are literally raped for your entertainment.

You sicken me.

Emphasis theirs.

Regarding an 8-year-old autistic boy who was raped:

Quote
Except males can’t be raped. sorry.

Yes, it’s horrible what happened to him, but this is more ableism than anything.

But don’t you dare equate the rape of women to sexual assault of males. They are not the same thing. Let me say that again:

They are not the same thing.

There's more, but I can't stand going through this hateful shit anymore.

I would adore knowing when the hell social justice warriors decided to become rape apologists.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: ironbite on July 16, 2013, 02:38:08 pm
Because social justice warriors by and large, are idiots.  They want to be special snowflakes so bad that if it happens to a male, it's not rape.  In fact, white cis males are the reason the world is in such shit according to these idiots.

Ironbite-so yeah....
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on July 16, 2013, 02:53:36 pm
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Male homosexuality is a manifestation of their misogyny.

Yeah, this and several other quotes from her page make me think she's a radscum.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Distind on July 16, 2013, 03:08:39 pm
I would adore knowing when the hell social justice warriors decided to become rape apologists.
When it came to acknowledging that the groups they claim victimise everyone else can and are victimised themselves. That or when the institutional racism business they tried to cram into the word racism starts seeping into everything else. No no, men have the power, they can't be raped, it's totally different if a man does it. Just like how anyone who isn't white can't be racist, no matter how racially motivated their hatred might be! A rather massive reason i have an abject hatred of people using the definition, it creates a set of people it simply claims cannot be victimised, and thus their claims of such should be ignored. Which is roughly the opposite of social justice as far as I can tell.

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Male homosexuality is a manifestation of their misogyny.

Yeah, this and several other quotes from her page make me think she's a radscum.
Wait, wouldn't radscum prefer men be gay? That way they aren't raping and oppressing women... right? We'd be raping and oppressing eachother... or is that not how relationships work?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on July 16, 2013, 03:18:08 pm
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Male homosexuality is a manifestation of their misogyny.

Yeah, this and several other quotes from her page make me think she's a radscum.
Wait, wouldn't radscum prefer men be gay? That way they aren't raping and oppressing women... right? We'd be raping and oppressing eachother... or is that not how relationships work?
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Radscums just don't seem to like men, period.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 16, 2013, 03:59:44 pm
http://little-missandry.tumblr.com/

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Anonymous asked: Would you do porn?

No. The porn industry is inherently misogynistic. Every porn actress is abused in some way, shape, or form. They are literally raped for your entertainment.

You sicken me.

Emphasis theirs.

Regarding an 8-year-old autistic boy who was raped:

Quote
Except males can’t be raped. sorry.

Yes, it’s horrible what happened to him, but this is more ableism than anything.

But don’t you dare equate the rape of women to sexual assault of males. They are not the same thing. Let me say that again:

They are not the same thing.

There's more, but I can't stand going through this hateful shit anymore.

I would adore knowing when the hell social justice warriors decided to become rape apologists.

SJWs seem to believe that "privilege" can magically prevent anything horrible from happening to said "privileged" person.
For example:
(http://media.tumblr.com/b6c199681ff262357ea5d0fd1baa7666/tumblr_inline_mndtnmQqdv1qz4rgp.png)
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Sigmaleph on July 16, 2013, 08:55:36 pm
Rape is now non-consensual sex plus power. Because why not.



Actually, it's.. kind of a thing. You can call me crazy or say I have an overactive imagination or whatever, but I have experienced this to a degree.

By 'this', do you include people who aren't you/physical objects reacting to phantom limbs?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Igor on July 16, 2013, 09:05:31 pm
Ah.. no. I meant experiencing the phantom limbs themselves. Nothing reacts to them. The person who made the comic is talking about something they themselves seem to have observed, but it may be because these phantom limbs can feel so real it can seem like things/people are reacting to them.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 16, 2013, 09:06:39 pm
I would adore knowing when the hell social justice warriors decided to become rape apologists.

Worst part is, she's accused anyone who disagrees with her of being a rape apologist.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 16, 2013, 09:16:28 pm
I would adore knowing when the hell social justice warriors decided to become rape apologists.

Worst part is, she's accused anyone who disagrees with her of being a rape apologist.
I don't know whether to make a "Don't do drugs" joke or a "Don't go off your meds" joke about her.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me2u8ilkMK1ryeto5o1_400.png)
Well, I'd try it at least once.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mejotvafLo1ryeto5o1_1280.png)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/2c3db06b8a2ce11980503725d60f4ed4/tumblr_men8mccEhj1ryeto5o1_1280.png)
No, you aren't. You'd be dead by now if you were triggered by "he" and "she". You'd flip out watching ads, TV, movies, anything. You are slightly annoyed. Not triggered.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/321e00f9a0f81fda6de2da2cd7ae7a50/tumblr_meomaz7a351ryeto5o1_1280.png)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me7yqxptQj1ryeto5o1_1280.png)
He's trying to help you, you twat. He doesn't want you to be like him. It's like me telling my girlfriend I'll kill her if she self-harms. It's not male privilege, it's because I know that once you start, it's damn hard to stop and stay stopped, and I don't want her to be like me.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 16, 2013, 09:21:01 pm
I don't know whether to make a "Don't do drugs" joke or a "Don't go off your meds" joke about her.

I think a combination of the two would be perfectly fitting in this case.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 16, 2013, 09:28:29 pm
I don't know whether to make a "Don't do drugs" joke or a "Don't go off your meds" joke about her.

I think a combination of the two would be perfectly fitting in this case.
Illegal drugs and untreated mental illness: don't mix them.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 16, 2013, 09:54:52 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me7yqxptQj1ryeto5o1_1280.png)
He's trying to help you, you twat. He doesn't want you to be like him. It's like me telling my girlfriend I'll kill her if she self-harms. It's not male privilege, it's because I know that once you start, it's damn hard to stop and stay stopped, and I don't want her to be like me.

It's not male privilege. If anything, feminism is to make it so that neither men nor women feel they have to cut and then hide those cuts. He's not saying it's okay for him to cut and not you. He's saying "I've been there and I don't want you to cut, too."

You know what's hard? Being a cutter and having a significant other be a cutter too. Because you both struggle and can be triggered by each other. But at the same time, you can help each other. The trick is not to put responsibility on the other. Doing stuff like 'if you cut, then I cut' is harmful to the ability to heal and not relapse into cutting again.

However, if he had really said 'can't and won't tolerate it' then that's a problem with how he said it. Telling a cutter something like that won't help them heal. It'll make them hate themselves more and up the possibility of relapse as well as make them find different places to hide it. But it still isn't male privilege. Stop using that phrase attached to something like self-harm.

Oh and re: grey delisle cause damn she's not liked by a lot of tumblr not just SJW- The criticisms against her are fair. Her twitter and tumblr are full of her so-called 'jokes'. She's transphobic, sexist, misogynistic, and has been known to send hate to her fans.

She tried apologizing about it and uh...

(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mazibtQoD81rru8mr.png)

Welp...

Now whether you should get up in arms about a joke about spousal abuse is up to you.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: ironbite on July 16, 2013, 09:56:28 pm
Yeah Grey's....special.

Ironbite-as in she doesn't give a fuck about most social norms.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 16, 2013, 10:04:22 pm
...Well I've quickly lost all respect for her.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: ironbite on July 16, 2013, 10:21:50 pm
I never had any respect for her as a person.  She's a voice actress.  A fairly good one, that's it.

Ironbite-her views on social issues, I just don't give a crap about 'em.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Lithp on July 16, 2013, 10:28:18 pm
So she's one of those talented asshole types? Oh well.

http://pretendbians.com/2013/07/16/obsessive-heterosexual-harasses-lesbian-activist/

I leave it up to you to decide which one of these ladies is the reason why I'm posting this.

I would adore knowing when the hell social justice warriors decided to become rape apologists.

Worst part is, she's accused anyone who disagrees with her of being a rape apologist.

Understandable, really. When you've connected rape with everything, how is it possible for anyone to disagree with you without rape apology? Once you've dug that hole, no one can reason with you, it's up to you to figure out on your own that you're being unreasonable.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 16, 2013, 10:37:46 pm
So she's one of those talented asshole types? Oh well.

http://pretendbians.com/2013/07/16/obsessive-heterosexual-harasses-lesbian-activist/

I leave it up to you to decide which one of these ladies is the reason why I'm posting this.

Can I cheat by saying "both of them"?

Though I will say, judging by bugbrennan's responses alone, that I hate her more than the other person.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 16, 2013, 10:50:08 pm
Oh, Cathy Brennan. Claims that being a lesbian is a political stance, and then runs a website called "Pretendbians".
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Lithp on July 16, 2013, 10:55:37 pm
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Can I cheat by saying "both of them"?

I've stated a few times now that it's like watching someone make faces at her own reflection.

Quote
Oh, Cathy Brennan. Claims that being a lesbian is a political stance, and then runs a website called "Pretendbians".

It amazes me just how often she contradicts herself. If being a lesbian is a political stance, then how can sexuality be driven by biology? How can there be "real" lesbians & "fake" lesbians? For that matter, why is the woman who harps on about "compulsory heterosexuality" constantly assigning sexual orientations to people?

And now she's apparently biphobic.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Sigmaleph on July 16, 2013, 11:00:05 pm
Brennan is a transphobic piece of shit. Aaminah is someone who needs to focus her efforts in something more productive than yelling at Brennan.

I don't know who you are posting for, but I do know who the bigger problem is.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 16, 2013, 11:34:42 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me7yqxptQj1ryeto5o1_1280.png)
He's trying to help you, you twat. He doesn't want you to be like him. It's like me telling my girlfriend I'll kill her if she self-harms. It's not male privilege, it's because I know that once you start, it's damn hard to stop and stay stopped, and I don't want her to be like me.

It's not male privilege. If anything, feminism is to make it so that neither men nor women feel they have to cut and then hide those cuts. He's not saying it's okay for him to cut and not you. He's saying "I've been there and I don't want you to cut, too."

You know what's hard? Being a cutter and having a significant other be a cutter too. Because you both struggle and can be triggered by each other. But at the same time, you can help each other. The trick is not to put responsibility on the other. Doing stuff like 'if you cut, then I cut' is harmful to the ability to heal and not relapse into cutting again.

However, if he had really said 'can't and won't tolerate it' then that's a problem with how he said it. Telling a cutter something like that won't help them heal. It'll make them hate themselves more and up the possibility of relapse as well as make them find different places to hide it. But it still isn't male privilege. Stop using that phrase attached to something like self-harm.

Oh and re: grey delisle cause damn she's not liked by a lot of tumblr not just SJW- The criticisms against her are fair. Her twitter and tumblr are full of her so-called 'jokes'. She's transphobic, sexist, misogynistic, and has been known to send hate to her fans.

She tried apologizing about it and uh...

(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mazibtQoD81rru8mr.png)

Welp...

Now whether you should get up in arms about a joke about spousal abuse is up to you.
Completely agreed. Note, my girlfriend doesn't self harm, but I am recovering from it and due to her mental issues, it has come up in discussions before (there's exactly one instance where she almost did, before I met her, during a bad hallucination due to her paranoid schizophrenia, she tried to give herself a Glasgow smile with scissors but stopped before she had done more than inside one side of her lips). However, that said, his wording was bad. You don't make them feel guilty for it, you are kind and caring. And, that said, I didn't know Grey was such a bitch. Then again, her parents named her Grey. They couldn't have been that great a raising her if they screwed up that badly that early on.

The girl calling Brennan out, wow. I'm impressed. Such rage is rare. Aaminah seems like a cool person, and if Brennan is so butthurt over it, then she did good. She also looks like a less pale version of my sister.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Lithp on July 16, 2013, 11:45:50 pm
I don't know much about her personally. I suppose I did imply that she was just as bad as Brennan. However, what I actually meant is that she is behaving so similarly to how Brennan often does, particularly a week or so ago with Everyday Lesbophobia, that attempting to pick the lesser of the 2 shitfests seems rather pointless to me.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 16, 2013, 11:48:51 pm
Quote
Thin privilege is being viewed as a trophy by the person you care about because you’re thin.

Thin privilege is being viewed as a "trophy" and not an actual person.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Lithp on July 16, 2013, 11:56:16 pm
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Thin privilege is being viewed as a trophy by the person you care about because you’re thin.

Thin privilege is being viewed as a "trophy" and not an actual person.

Textbook example of why I think the whole premise of thisisthinprivilege is flawed.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Distind on July 17, 2013, 07:49:29 am
I want this to be a poe:
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BIOLOGICAL SEX IS A CISSEXIST TRANSPHOBIC CONCEPT AND YOU SHOULD JUST STOP USING IT.
Don't really think it is.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 17, 2013, 08:08:33 am
I want this to be a poe:
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BIOLOGICAL SEX IS A CISSEXIST TRANSPHOBIC CONCEPT AND YOU SHOULD JUST STOP USING IT.
Don't really think it is.

Full thing's better:

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/83ca9bdc99b6b46c59201bf020164a12/tumblr_mpkmbcL2tE1ryeto5o1_500.png)

Only thing I agree with is it's weird as fuck to refer to genitals as "sex". What you do with them with other people is sex.

Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 17, 2013, 08:43:41 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mefw30344T1ryeto5o1_400.png)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdypbujAR51ryeto5o1_1280.png)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mehnxbVCXi1ryeto5o1_500.png)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me12q5KTcu1ryeto5o1_1280.png)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_meg55cWv1m1ryeto5o1_1280.png)
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 17, 2013, 10:57:46 am
Well, they're right about one thing. Me and my best friend are not in our right minds. Though I can't tell which is better: the post or the description of the blog.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: JohnE on July 17, 2013, 04:13:30 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdypbujAR51ryeto5o1_1280.png)
I kind of agree with this one, actually, if I'm reading it right. I don't like traditional, binary gender rolls telling me what I can and can't like, what I can and can't wear, how I can and can't act.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 17, 2013, 04:27:53 pm
On the other hand this person is basically complaining about other people wanting to express certain traits because they want to, chalking it up to "Gender Norms"
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Distind on July 17, 2013, 05:11:30 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdypbujAR51ryeto5o1_1280.png)
I kind of agree with this one, actually, if I'm reading it right. I don't like traditional, binary gender rolls telling me what I can and can't like, what I can and can't wear, how I can and can't act.
I could roll with it in the right context. It's actually one of the things that gets my goat in some conversations. You are who you are, not who you look like or who you act like. Forcing yourself into a role isn't going to help anyone. Do what you feel you should do. Though in some cases that'll probably be nothing, in which case force yourself to do something useful like learn or clean.

Though it's probably in a less favorable, more demeaning context aimed at people who are simply doing their thing and managing to offend someone in the process.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 17, 2013, 05:41:40 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdypbujAR51ryeto5o1_1280.png)
I kind of agree with this one, actually, if I'm reading it right. I don't like traditional, binary gender rolls telling me what I can and can't like, what I can and can't wear, how I can and can't act.
The stupid comes from the fact that they're blaming gender binary people, including trans* people, for it. They're claiming that ALL gender binary people are at fault for ALL gender norms.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 17, 2013, 08:32:59 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/7d0c733acadcc63d9bd4ec70cd49c2bc/tumblr_mpwgdkhax41ryeto5o1_500.png)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/321cdf54d3a713208cd5b90adc6aab67/tumblr_mpq3asSp4K1qdl4w6o1_400.jpg)

Are you kidding me right now? Yeah. Totally gonna compensate just because I have a baby face. Of course. How silly of me. Brb.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: QueenofHearts on July 17, 2013, 09:25:12 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdypbujAR51ryeto5o1_1280.png)
I kind of agree with this one, actually, if I'm reading it right. I don't like traditional, binary gender rolls telling me what I can and can't like, what I can and can't wear, how I can and can't act.
The stupid comes from the fact that they're blaming gender binary people, including trans* people, for it. They're claiming that ALL gender binary people are at fault for ALL gender norms.

I'm interpretting "gender binary people" as people who believe and assert that gender is a binary. I definitely live as a "binary" female, but that is more happenstance than anything and if people don't want to conform to one gender or the other, that's they're right. I see no problem.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 17, 2013, 09:41:32 pm
Redd's current Tumblr: http://romulanprincess.tumblr.com/

Please don't harass or try to troll them, just observe.

Mostly they're posting random fandom shit, but there are a few amusing posts.

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   I have a fucking mental illness and I still have to clear out the dirty nasty shit in the basement and garage

but you get to not dirty your hands because?????? you don’t want to?

ok

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   like my dad walks into my room all the time without knocking but like not the bathroom

like at least he fucking knows there’s a 90% chance I’m just lying on my bed watching tv shows or playing video games

but when I’m in the bathroom he doesn’t go fucking open the door like a goddamn white person

stg they are animals
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 17, 2013, 11:34:50 pm
The last one gives me all kinds of 'huh?'
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 17, 2013, 11:39:10 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/6e63391fd0667ff0cd0c350b832442b7/tumblr_mpxn9ugsif1s6iq1po1_500.png)

Or maybe they were just wondering why someone would get married in a McDonalds?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Commissar Kaz on July 18, 2013, 12:30:57 am
Meh, I'm just waiting for someone to post something along the lines of 'thin privilege is being able to fit through a narrow gap in a wall.'
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: lord gibbon on July 18, 2013, 12:43:56 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/6e63391fd0667ff0cd0c350b832442b7/tumblr_mpxn9ugsif1s6iq1po1_500.png)

Or maybe they were just wondering why someone would get married in a McDonalds?

That's not even the origin of the meme. It's just "meanwhile in X" and then you show the weird image. This person needs to stop raging and start thinking.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 18, 2013, 01:24:31 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdypbujAR51ryeto5o1_1280.png)
I kind of agree with this one, actually, if I'm reading it right. I don't like traditional, binary gender rolls telling me what I can and can't like, what I can and can't wear, how I can and can't act.
The stupid comes from the fact that they're blaming gender binary people, including trans* people, for it. They're claiming that ALL gender binary people are at fault for ALL gender norms.

I'm interpretting "gender binary people" as people who believe and assert that gender is a binary. I definitely live as a "binary" female, but that is more happenstance than anything and if people don't want to conform to one gender or the other, that's they're right. I see no problem.
I oh so very hope you're right, Queen. That would mean that they're not stupid. However, with the SJWs on Tumblr, you can't be completely certain. Basically, I hope you're right, but I fear you're not.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me27v4l8mj1ryeto5o1_500.png)
Besides for applying tons of labels and then saying he's against them, anyone wanna explain how a crossdresser gets large breasts in a bikini?

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me1a78IYct1ryeto5o1_1280.png)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me1a2sqsj91ryeto5o1_1280.png)
Asexuals (real ones): They don't want to fuck. That is all. Everyone here is stupid.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/a2026ebff77ff44039a9a9dd77dfd7ed/tumblr_mf3urvJzuT1ryeto5o1_500.png)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6efjuFzAq1qdsiemo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 18, 2013, 02:18:19 am
I'm calling "troll" on that last one.

Or "desperate snowflake".
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on July 18, 2013, 05:16:59 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me1a78IYct1ryeto5o1_1280.png)

Meanwhile in Bizarro World...
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Søren on July 18, 2013, 05:34:04 am
What kind of world do you live in if the pinnacle of entertainment is dragqueens?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: starseeker on July 18, 2013, 07:27:06 am
What kind of world do you live in if the pinnacle of entertainment is dragqueens?

Pantomime world?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Distind on July 18, 2013, 07:38:17 am
I'm calling "troll" on that last one.

Or "desperate snowflake".

On that note, Snowflake powers activate!
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Skoliosexuality is an attraction primarily toward individuals who identify outside of the gender binary.

Edit:
And how'd I miss this?
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what do cis white able-bodied heterosexual males have to fear when they leave the house besides misplacing their “i love boobies" bracelets?

I can answer this. EVERYTHING.

No one gives a shit about us any more than anyone else, and there's no real stigma attached to harming us as there may be to... any other group out there? Though there aren't many people who'd do it for sport.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 18, 2013, 08:38:10 am
What kind of world do you live in if the pinnacle of entertainment is dragqueens?
I'd imagine it's a world where Reality TV bloomed faster than it did in our own, and as a result, Twiggy Ramirez ended up with his own television show. Because 90s Twiggy would be the pinnacle of entertainment, with half of it being devoted to him rocking out, and the other half being devoted to him being funny (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV8_Favf-uY). From there, being a crossdresser that likely would have pissed off SJWs (white guy dreads, anyone?) would just catch on.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Jack Mann on July 18, 2013, 09:01:48 am
 
What kind of world do you live in if the pinnacle of entertainment is dragqueens?

The magical realm of Izzardland.  So, uh, yeah.

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what do cis white able-bodied heterosexual males have to fear when they leave the house besides misplacing their “i love boobies" bracelets?

I can answer this. EVERYTHING.

No one gives a shit about us any more than anyone else, and there's no real stigma attached to harming us as there may be to... any other group out there? Though there aren't many people who'd do it for sport.

Ehhh...  We're still more likely to see protection from law enforcement, we're less likely to be harrassed, and rape, while a possibility, is not so likely that most men really think about it much.  This doesn't mean we have nothing to fear.  It's pretty stupid to think that just because someone's not in any special interest group that they can't suffer any problems, but let's not turn ourselves into martyrs here.  In general, we still have it better than pretty much anyone else.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 18, 2013, 09:34:36 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdike05gkG1ryeto5o1_1280.png)
I'm compelled to actually answer this shit.
1. Because it's a cow. It has no concept of rape. It cannot experience trauma from it.
2. Because cows do not have sufficient intelligence to actually matter. They're, to put it bluntly, idiots. They have no potential. They have no meaning. They will never invent anything. They will never make breakthroughs. They'll never make an amazing song or film or book or show. They'll never win a war. They'll never protest anything. They will eat grass, reproduce, produce bodily waste, and die.
3. As said in point two, they have no potential or worth. The Jews, by being human beings, have potential. They have the ability to make a difference and change things, like any human being. Not all human beings are born equal potential, but almost all are born with some. Those with absolutely none are kept alive due to sentimental feelings evolved to continue the species.
4. Return to the aforementioned lack of potential in the animals. Additionally, none of these creatures are self-aware. They do not understand mirrors. They do not have a sense of "me". They are that dumb.
5. Because the only reason it isn't is because of modern medical science. Pills aren't natural. If you didn't have them, you'd be sick as hell.
6. Did I use any slurs or insults against vegans here?

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdii4mKkPk1ryeto5o1_1280.png)
I agree with the asker, but I kinda like the bitch for being so inventive with her death threat.

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdih2dwtFM1ryeto5o1_1280.png)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_men5u3A6iY1rxv81fo1_500.png)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/a025fff7f0468c9e2d73ddce33a28777/tumblr_mgl2ks1kZ71ryeto5o1_1280.png)
Nope, not making a Mein Teil joke.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Clochette on July 18, 2013, 11:47:52 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdike05gkG1ryeto5o1_1280.png)
I'm compelled to actually answer this shit.
1. Because it's a cow. It has no concept of rape. It cannot experience trauma from it.
2. Because cows do not have sufficient intelligence to actually matter. They're, to put it bluntly, idiots. They have no potential. They have no meaning. They will never invent anything. They will never make breakthroughs. They'll never make an amazing song or film or book or show. They'll never win a war. They'll never protest anything. They will eat grass, reproduce, produce bodily waste, and die.
3. As said in point two, they have no potential or worth. The Jews, by being human beings, have potential. They have the ability to make a difference and change things, like any human being. Not all human beings are born equal potential, but almost all are born with some. Those with absolutely none are kept alive due to sentimental feelings evolved to continue the species.
4. Return to the aforementioned lack of potential in the animals. Additionally, none of these creatures are self-aware. They do not understand mirrors. They do not have a sense of "me". They are that dumb.
5. Because the only reason it isn't is because of modern medical science. Pills aren't natural. If you didn't have them, you'd be sick as hell.
6. Did I use any slurs or insults against vegans here?

It's not true that cows don't experience trauma. In order for a cow to keep producing milk, she needs to be impregnated repeatedly (usually via a tool called the "rape rack"). After giving birth the calf will most likely be taken away from her, and cows, like most mammals, bond with their babies.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 18, 2013, 12:00:39 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdike05gkG1ryeto5o1_1280.png)
I'm compelled to actually answer this shit.
1. Because it's a cow. It has no concept of rape. It cannot experience trauma from it.
2. Because cows do not have sufficient intelligence to actually matter. They're, to put it bluntly, idiots. They have no potential. They have no meaning. They will never invent anything. They will never make breakthroughs. They'll never make an amazing song or film or book or show. They'll never win a war. They'll never protest anything. They will eat grass, reproduce, produce bodily waste, and die.
3. As said in point two, they have no potential or worth. The Jews, by being human beings, have potential. They have the ability to make a difference and change things, like any human being. Not all human beings are born equal potential, but almost all are born with some. Those with absolutely none are kept alive due to sentimental feelings evolved to continue the species.
4. Return to the aforementioned lack of potential in the animals. Additionally, none of these creatures are self-aware. They do not understand mirrors. They do not have a sense of "me". They are that dumb.
5. Because the only reason it isn't is because of modern medical science. Pills aren't natural. If you didn't have them, you'd be sick as hell.
6. Did I use any slurs or insults against vegans here?

It's not true that cows don't experience trauma. In order for a cow to keep producing milk, she needs to be impregnated repeatedly (usually via a tool called the "rape rack"). After giving birth the calf will most likely be taken away from her, and cows, like most mammals, bond with their babies.
That's not proof that they feel trauma. I have a feeling that a month or two later, the cow will not remember the calf. When I say they do not experience trauma, I mean they literally do not have a concept of a traumatic event.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Auri-El on July 18, 2013, 12:20:12 pm
I don't believe all species are equal. I'm far less bothered about a beetle dying than, say, a cat.  But I generally think mammals, reptiles, and fish are semi-intelligent, and as such deserve protection. Not saying I have a problem with eating meat, but in respect of all life, I don't agree that the life of a cow doesn't matter just because she's not as intelligent as a dog or  adolphin.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Lithp on July 18, 2013, 12:34:09 pm
I can't find the term "rape rack" except on kooky vegan-feminist sites, & one really disturbing Wikipedia article about monkey experiments.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Jack Mann on July 18, 2013, 12:55:18 pm
Cows, pigs, sheep and chickens can feel pain.  They have memory enough to remember who hurts them.  I don't think it's wrong to eat them, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't treat them as humanely as possible in that pursuit.  A lot of slaughter houses are unnecessarily cruel, and I think that that should be curbed.  Doesn't mean I think we should go vegan, though.  Just that I think we should try to avoid causing pain when it's avoidable.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Clochette on July 18, 2013, 01:03:41 pm
]That's not proof that they feel trauma. I have a feeling that a month or two later, the cow will not remember the calf. When I say they do not experience trauma, I mean they literally do not have a concept of a traumatic event.

You don't know that. Non-human animals are found to have higher intellectual and emotional capacity than previously thought every day. Like us, cattle have evolved to be highly protective of their young. We don't know if a cow will remember her baby months after it's taken away from her. We can't ask. But it's not a stretch that they very well might, when you look at their other intelligent behaviors.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: MadmanJohnson on July 18, 2013, 01:08:14 pm
I can't find the term "rape rack" except on kooky vegan-feminist sites, & one really disturbing Wikipedia article about monkey experiments.
That wikipedia article is going to keep me up.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Lithp on July 18, 2013, 01:16:08 pm
]That's not proof that they feel trauma. I have a feeling that a month or two later, the cow will not remember the calf. When I say they do not experience trauma, I mean they literally do not have a concept of a traumatic event.

You don't know that. Non-human animals are found to have higher intellectual and emotional capacity than previously thought every day. Like us, cattle have evolved to be highly protective of their young. We don't know if a cow will remember her baby months after it's taken away from her. We can't ask. But it's not a stretch that they very well might, when you look at their other intelligent behaviors.

But it's up to the animal rights activists to prove that a certain practice is inhumane. This person is just like, "Durr Jews!" & expects that shit to fly.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Clochette on July 18, 2013, 01:20:45 pm
Godwinning is a surefire way to make people dismiss your claims, no matter how valid. I wish that other animal rights activists would avoid bringing up rape and the Holocaust. Even if the comparison is apt it ultimately just pisses people off.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 18, 2013, 01:23:40 pm
I can't find the term "rape rack" except on kooky vegan-feminist sites, & one really disturbing Wikipedia article about monkey experiments.
That wikipedia article is going to keep me up.
I found it quite interesting. While the results of the experiment were mainly common-sense, it was quite interesting to see how easy was for the monkeys to break (and, likewise, how easy it is for people). The rape rack part itself was interesting. It shows that a negative childhood can make an even more negative childhood for the next generation, which, if they survive, likely would only perpetuate itself.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 18, 2013, 02:24:49 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/c27ae62ef99ffca706041ca23acb2ee1/tumblr_mphg2dcDzp1rmluldo1_400.png)

I don't even know what half of those things even are. Deathfat? Is that like some screamo band or something? And what the fuck is glamdrogynous?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Sigmaleph on July 18, 2013, 02:33:53 pm
Androgynous and glamorous about it, one would guess.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 18, 2013, 02:51:16 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/c27ae62ef99ffca706041ca23acb2ee1/tumblr_mphg2dcDzp1rmluldo1_400.png)

I don't even know what half of those things even are. Deathfat? Is that like some screamo band or something? And what the fuck is glamdrogynous?

I got exhausted trying to read that halfway thru. Goddamn, people. It's not a contest to see how many labels you can slap on yourself.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Distind on July 18, 2013, 03:13:35 pm
I don't know, I find it a wonderful way to realize there's absolutely nothing about this person that I would find interesting. If they spend all their time on this shit what could they possibly have to discuss that was interesting. Doesn't make it a contest, but if they act like it is one, easy sign.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Clochette on July 18, 2013, 04:15:34 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/c27ae62ef99ffca706041ca23acb2ee1/tumblr_mphg2dcDzp1rmluldo1_400.png)

I don't even know what half of those things even are. Deathfat? Is that like some screamo band or something? And what the fuck is glamdrogynous?

I hate how tumblr "About Me" sections always amount to the person describing their sexual orientation in great detail and listing off any mental illnesses they diagnosed themselves with. If someone says that they're a demisexual hemiromantic with bipolar disorder and autism, it doesn't tell me a lot about who they are as a person.

Out of curiosity I looked up "deathfat" and it means that your BMI is in the "morbidly obese" range. "Flowerboy" is either a feminine man or a man who covers up his secret homosexuality via serial dating women.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 18, 2013, 04:59:27 pm
(http://i41.tinypic.com/eqnyix.png)

I hope this is a Poe. If not, then I wonder how this person functions off of Tumblr.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: niam2023 on July 18, 2013, 06:34:44 pm
I would walk up to her and say hello and start rattling off things I like about myself, just to get under her skin.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 18, 2013, 08:23:25 pm

I hate how tumblr "About Me" sections always amount to the person describing their sexual orientation in great detail and listing off any mental illnesses they diagnosed themselves with.

Shit like that is why my Tumblr "About Me" is limited to a few vague sentences. At one point it was just "26, female, Canadian".
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 18, 2013, 09:43:03 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/8af01acae237833b070ce33a63da59e0/tumblr_mpj411uhww1s628zzo1_500.gif)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/582bc77e1ee143785f1765a4bade5f74/tumblr_mpywyjF2YV1qih4auo1_500.gif)

Sinfest was fine until it went all feminist social justice sally. Then it just went downhill.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Søren on July 19, 2013, 12:23:13 am
Glamdrogynous.

This is my new favorite label, i fucking love it
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 19, 2013, 02:26:48 am
Glamdrogynous.

This is my new favorite label, i fucking love it

(http://melodic-hardrock.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/679ff572-0d27-424c-8288-4263cf201eaf.jpg)
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Clochette on July 19, 2013, 10:07:54 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/8af01acae237833b070ce33a63da59e0/tumblr_mpj411uhww1s628zzo1_500.gif)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/582bc77e1ee143785f1765a4bade5f74/tumblr_mpywyjF2YV1qih4auo1_500.gif)

Sinfest was fine until it went all feminist social justice sally. Then it just went downhill.

I used to love Sinfest. Now I can't read it without rolling my eyes. I don't necessarily disagree with the sentiments, but it's just so preachy.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Distind on July 19, 2013, 12:56:22 pm
Just because every time you think you've found the bottom some prick shows up with a shovel and enthusiasm:

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A BLOG ABOUT MY EXPERIENCES AS A TRANS-TEMPORAL WOMAN FROM THE 1800S LIVING IN TODAY'S WORLD.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: solar. on July 19, 2013, 01:03:40 pm
That's gotta be a parody. At least I hope it is.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 19, 2013, 01:18:42 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/37f00c57334a7c06c2da519b662df0ef/tumblr_mfpophAogL1ryeto5o1_1280.png)

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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Art Vandelay on July 19, 2013, 01:24:21 pm
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Yeah, try and befriend a moose, let me know how that works out. In fact, we'll make a game of it. You get one point for every intact bone you have left.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 19, 2013, 02:06:25 pm
That's gotta be a parody. At least I hope it is.

It's far too deep into the realms of "Someone could possibly believe this about themselves" for me to comfortably call it a parody :-/

Seems like a naturally absurd conclusion to the nostalgia-fapping that's been going on since nostalgia's been a thing, though.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Clochette on July 19, 2013, 03:51:25 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/ff7f084cfcee9cb549b71d6e3ec9106d/tumblr_mgnim8bHIJ1ryeto5o1_500.png)
Yeah, try and befriend a moose, let me know how that works out. In fact, we'll make a game of it. You get one point for every intact bone you have left.

Plus the foxes, skunks, and opossums will just run away.

I love animals and I'm not particularly fond of people in general, but I don't understand people who think animals are morally superior or whatever. The ones who are intelligent enough to comprehend morality do good things, but they do bad things as well.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Meshakhad on July 19, 2013, 04:44:14 pm

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/ff7f084cfcee9cb549b71d6e3ec9106d/tumblr_mgnim8bHIJ1ryeto5o1_500.png)

TREASON!

*BLAM*
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 19, 2013, 05:22:31 pm
I'm pretty sure that seeking to cause the extinction of an entire species of animal is decidedly anti-nature.

For the record, people seem to claim that humans are the only animal that destroys nature, but ask tree farmers what they think about deer coming up and marking trees with their antlers and come back to me on that matter.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Flying Mint Bunny! on July 19, 2013, 05:44:13 pm

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/ff7f084cfcee9cb549b71d6e3ec9106d/tumblr_mgnim8bHIJ1ryeto5o1_500.png)

TREASON!

*BLAM*

Wtf is ear pointing?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 19, 2013, 05:50:39 pm

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TREASON!

*BLAM*

Wtf is ear pointing?

I'm willing to bet it's exactly what it sounds like: making yourself look more like an elf.

Looking at the post, I'm guessing this is a person who either wants to be an elf or is some kind of elfkin or whatnot.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 19, 2013, 06:01:06 pm
Considering that in legend proper, elves are short and mischevious, I'm betting this is also fictionkin (probably LOTR-based elves)
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 19, 2013, 06:28:47 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/b1768cf2f64c9096d2cd6674ff3a6a93/tumblr_mq4v57ksHM1spvi94o1_500.jpg)
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Looks like someone had a big bowl of bitch flakes this morning.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Flying Mint Bunny! on July 19, 2013, 07:44:55 pm

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/ff7f084cfcee9cb549b71d6e3ec9106d/tumblr_mgnim8bHIJ1ryeto5o1_500.png)

TREASON!

*BLAM*

Wtf is ear pointing?

I'm willing to bet it's exactly what it sounds like: making yourself look more like an elf.

Looking at the post, I'm guessing this is a person who either wants to be an elf or is some kind of elfkin or whatnot.

Oh. I thought it might have been a weird social justice campaign against people pointing at their ears.

Your explanation makes much more sense.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 19, 2013, 08:02:34 pm
I'm like 99% sure this (http://culturalappropriation-in-media.tumblr.com/post/55641153597/cultural-appropriation-in-the-media-4-how-do-we) is a parody but...


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But when Sansa begins to live in the southern King’s Landing, she changes her hair to how one typically of the south.
Except Sansa is not of the South. She has no ties to the south, and is little more than a long-staying guest there. Therefore, she has no right to wear the styles of actual southern women.

Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 19, 2013, 08:49:30 pm
^^ I dunno, based on the content of the rest of the blog and the followups they posted, I think it might actually be real. That, or the person running it is very dedicated troll.

To be fair to the idiot, they're using it as an example of how cultural appropriation is supposedly normalized in fiction, rather than an actual example of appropriation. It's still stupid as hell, though, and rather insulting for them to put it up alongside genuine cases of racism and stereotyping in the media. Adapting to norms in a new region when relocating (particularly when you're encouraged to do so by the people in said region) in order to gain acceptance is basically the exact opposite of cultural misappropriation.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Meshakhad on July 19, 2013, 08:50:38 pm
I'm like 99% sure this (http://culturalappropriation-in-media.tumblr.com/post/55641153597/cultural-appropriation-in-the-media-4-how-do-we) is a parody but...


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But when Sansa begins to live in the southern King’s Landing, she changes her hair to how one typically of the south.
Except Sansa is not of the South. She has no ties to the south, and is little more than a long-staying guest there. Therefore, she has no right to wear the styles of actual southern women.

She's the Queen in the North now, she can do whatever the fuck she wants.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Sigmaleph on July 19, 2013, 08:55:56 pm
I'm like 99% sure this (http://culturalappropriation-in-media.tumblr.com/post/55641153597/cultural-appropriation-in-the-media-4-how-do-we) is a parody but...


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But when Sansa begins to live in the southern King’s Landing, she changes her hair to how one typically of the south.
Except Sansa is not of the South. She has no ties to the south, and is little more than a long-staying guest there. Therefore, she has no right to wear the styles of actual southern women.

The rest of the blog doesn't look like a parody. Worryingly enough. ETA: Antechrist beat me to it.

It's really odd because generally cultural appropriation is in terms of the oppressor culture taking elements from the oppressed and misusing them. The Crownlands are not oppressed by the North, if anything the power dynamics go the other way around. Blending in with the dominant culture is more or less the diametric opposite of cultural appropriation.

Also, 'long-staying guest' is hardly accurate. She was engaged to be married to Joffrey, the capital was to become her permanent residence. But that's nitpicking.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 19, 2013, 08:58:55 pm
^^ But you managed to beat me to my edit, so it's pretty much a tie.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Sigmaleph on July 19, 2013, 09:00:00 pm
Well, we certainly seem to think along the same lines.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 19, 2013, 09:22:43 pm
^^ I dunno, based on the content of the rest of the blog and the followups they posted, I think it might actually be real. That, or the person running it is very dedicated troll.

To be fair to the idiot, they're using it as an example of how cultural appropriation is supposedly normalized in fiction, rather than an actual example of appropriation. It's still stupid as hell, though, and rather insulting for them to put it up alongside genuine cases of racism and stereotyping in the media. Adapting to norms in a new region when relocating (particularly when you're encouraged to do so by the people in said region) in order to gain acceptance is basically the exact opposite of cultural misappropriation.

Basically why I said not 100% because I was looking through the rest and they seem pretty sincere. Or they're very good at being a troll. Like forfuturereference was.

But yeah, exactly. She was adapting.

It's just another slam against Sansa Stark and frankly there's enough of it without bringing SJW stuff into it.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 19, 2013, 09:35:58 pm
You know, I always thought FFRO was a pretty transparent troll, although they did seem to fool a lot of people for a long time.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 19, 2013, 11:19:49 pm
They still fool people according to my dash. lol
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 20, 2013, 12:32:16 am
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Him, yelling: “I like that skirt!"
 Me: “Shut the fuck up."
 Him: “It was just a compliment!"
 Me: “No, it wasn’t. It was disrespectful. Stop being disrespectful towards women."
 His friend: “It was just a fuckin’ compliment!"
 Me: “No, it was street harassment."
 His friend: “No it wasn’t!"
 Me, while walking away: “Yes, it was."
 Him: “Bitch"


 All while on my way to the LIBRARY. Actually, it happened IN FRONT of the library. Women can’t exist in peace even when going to the fucking library.

My sister is embarrassed by me right now. I had to defend myself in front of a group of people, and she’s embarrassed because all these people saw the altercation. He’s the one who should be embarrassed.

I am so proud of myself right now. I don’t even know how I would have handled the situation a year ago, but today I was strong.

Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Clochette on July 20, 2013, 12:38:47 am
Quote
Him, yelling: “I like that skirt!"
 Me: “Shut the fuck up."
 Him: “It was just a compliment!"
 Me: “No, it wasn’t. It was disrespectful. Stop being disrespectful towards women."
 His friend: “It was just a fuckin’ compliment!"
 Me: “No, it was street harassment."
 His friend: “No it wasn’t!"
 Me, while walking away: “Yes, it was."
 Him: “Bitch"


 All while on my way to the LIBRARY. Actually, it happened IN FRONT of the library. Women can’t exist in peace even when going to the fucking library.

My sister is embarrassed by me right now. I had to defend myself in front of a group of people, and she’s embarrassed because all these people saw the altercation. He’s the one who should be embarrassed.

I am so proud of myself right now. I don’t even know how I would have handled the situation a year ago, but today I was strong.

I can sympathize with her. After you get experience enough unwanted sexual attention masquerading as "just a compliment!" it's hard to tell the difference. It sounds like she'd taken it for years and finally snapped. And the "bitch!" at the end isn't helping that guy's case for not being sexist.

Or maybe he was a very sincere young man complimenting a lady's attractive dress and she completely misreported the incident, in which case disregard what I said, I guess.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 20, 2013, 01:01:45 am
I think it's a case of him giving her a sincere compliment and her overreacting.

And the replies get even better:

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YEP. Because only white women don’t like to constantly be objectified - to an object that men are completely allowed to shout at and treat like some kind of sexualised child.

This is absolutely disgusting. You should all be ashamed of yourselves (aside from the OP and the one person who stood up for her)

WHY is it okay to invade a woman’s space?

You don’t know them, it’s COMPLETELY inappropriate and wrong. Why? You have no idea what happened to them that day, they could have just discovered they were dying, or a friend was, or WHATEVER. They PROBABLY DON’T WANT TO HEAR FROM SOME CREEPY FUCKING STRANGER.

No, it’s not a compliment. You might as well yell “I FIND IT COMPLETELY APPROPRIATE TO YELL AT A YOUNG WOMAN BECAUSE I KNOW THERE’S LIKELY NOTHING SHE CAN DO AND I’M A COMPLETELY SELFISH PERSON WHO THINKS WHATEEEVER KIND OF BULLSHIT I HAVE TO SAY IS 1000000 TIMES MORE IMPORTANT THAN HER BEING ABLE TO LIVE HER LIFE WITHOUT FEAR AND FEELING LIKE SHE IS PREY TO SOME DISGUSTING CREEP" We don’t care whether you like how we look. We don’t. We realllly don’t. Got it? A stranger on the street has NOTHING to do with us, as we have NOTHING to do with you.

WHY is it that the OP deleted her post and turned off messages altogether?

Maybe it’s because she got a fuckton of hate from IDIOTS like you. Quite likely.

Now fuck off and die OR leave women alone. Either. That’s the choice.


And I thought the OP was overreacting. This is completely over the top.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 20, 2013, 01:34:25 am
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When everything is subversive, is anything subversive?

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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 20, 2013, 01:44:56 am

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/e816a495739f1ba76a9495555628f9d3/tumblr_mfod78sTth1ryeto5o1_1280.png)

Are you high?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 20, 2013, 02:08:48 am
Fairy wings.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 20, 2013, 02:22:47 am
Fairy wings.
I prefer "slow molasses melting slopes".
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: LeTipex on July 20, 2013, 05:20:14 am
So much fat it counts as a battle armor? Are you an ogre?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Flying Mint Bunny! on July 20, 2013, 05:24:43 am
Quote
Him, yelling: “I like that skirt!"
 Me: “Shut the fuck up."
 Him: “It was just a compliment!"
 Me: “No, it wasn’t. It was disrespectful. Stop being disrespectful towards women."
 His friend: “It was just a fuckin’ compliment!"
 Me: “No, it was street harassment."
 His friend: “No it wasn’t!"
 Me, while walking away: “Yes, it was."
 Him: “Bitch"


 All while on my way to the LIBRARY. Actually, it happened IN FRONT of the library. Women can’t exist in peace even when going to the fucking library.

My sister is embarrassed by me right now. I had to defend myself in front of a group of people, and she’s embarrassed because all these people saw the altercation. He’s the one who should be embarrassed.

I am so proud of myself right now. I don’t even know how I would have handled the situation a year ago, but today I was strong.

I can sympathize with her. After you get experience enough unwanted sexual attention masquerading as "just a compliment!" it's hard to tell the difference. It sounds like she'd taken it for years and finally snapped. And the "bitch!" at the end isn't helping that guy's case for not being sexist.

Or maybe he was a very sincere young man complimenting a lady's attractive dress and she completely misreported the incident, in which case disregard what I said, I guess.

That's nothing. I was in a library once and some random guy came up to me and asked me if I wanted to go back to his place.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: wrightway on July 20, 2013, 12:55:31 pm
I'm pretty sure that seeking to cause the extinction of an entire species of animal is decidedly anti-nature.

For the record, people seem to claim that humans are the only animal that destroys nature, but ask tree farmers what they think about deer coming up and marking trees with their antlers and come back to me on that matter.

Wasn't there a cat who single pawedly destroyed an entire species of island bird?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Sleepy on July 20, 2013, 01:46:06 pm
It really depends on how the guy said "I like that skirt!" She said he was yelling it, and if he said it with an intentionally suggestive tone, then I can understand being annoyed. I wouldn't respond the same way she did, probably just ignore him.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 20, 2013, 03:59:43 pm
It really depends on how the guy said "I like that skirt!" She said he was yelling it, and if he said it with an intentionally suggestive tone, then I can understand being annoyed. I wouldn't respond the same way she did, probably just ignore him.

On the other hand, we've both found that a lot of people who are seeing persecution and discrimination where there is none tend to change their story when retelling it, sometimes (as with the woman who claimed to have spit in the face of a cashier for supposedly trying to touch her inappropriately by handing her change back) to the point of absurdity. Either they're intentionally spicing it up to make it sound more justified or they're thinking back on it afterward and letting their own opinions color the memory of the events.

For all we know, it was a regular guy who was genuinely complimenting her on her skirt and suddenly being shouted at for it.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Clochette on July 20, 2013, 04:31:37 pm
It really depends on how the guy said "I like that skirt!" She said he was yelling it, and if he said it with an intentionally suggestive tone, then I can understand being annoyed. I wouldn't respond the same way she did, probably just ignore him.

I'm a biased because I'm extremely skittish and hate loud noise, but I don't think you should be yelling at random strangers unless it's to point out that they're about to walk in front of a bus. Making sure a woman knows that you approve of her clothing choices is less important than not scaring or annoying her while she's trying to go about her business.

Maybe it was an overreaction on her part, but at least he might think twice the next time he feels an insatiable urge to shout unsolicited compliments.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: lord gibbon on July 20, 2013, 05:19:52 pm
I'm pretty sure that seeking to cause the extinction of an entire species of animal is decidedly anti-nature.

For the record, people seem to claim that humans are the only animal that destroys nature, but ask tree farmers what they think about deer coming up and marking trees with their antlers and come back to me on that matter.

Wasn't there a cat who single pawedly destroyed an entire species of island bird?

Yup, the Stephan's Island Wren, driven extinct by the fearsome Tibbles.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Sleepy on July 20, 2013, 06:32:53 pm
It really depends on how the guy said "I like that skirt!" She said he was yelling it, and if he said it with an intentionally suggestive tone, then I can understand being annoyed. I wouldn't respond the same way she did, probably just ignore him.

On the other hand, we've both found that a lot of people who are seeing persecution and discrimination where there is none tend to change their story when retelling it, sometimes (as with the woman who claimed to have spit in the face of a cashier for supposedly trying to touch her inappropriately by handing her change back) to the point of absurdity. Either they're intentionally spicing it up to make it sound more justified or they're thinking back on it afterward and letting their own opinions color the memory of the events.

For all we know, it was a regular guy who was genuinely complimenting her on her skirt and suddenly being shouted at for it.

She could very well be exaggerating or completely lying, but my response is more of a hypothetical one. Incidents like that do occur, and I think such a response would be justified if the guy were being an ass like that.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 20, 2013, 07:35:56 pm
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Okay, I have no experience with imaginary friends myself. That being said, the one person I do know who does is a paranoid schizophrenic and her imaginary friend turned on her and began to hate her, when she was a kid. So, um, don't fuck with imaginary friends, I guess.

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This just in, health care is ableist because it says people should be healthy.

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/5c602b06e8c352486da2b2fa36323acf/tumblr_mfq5siKE7w1ryeto5o1_500.png)
The "Special" Snowflake Olympics.

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Racism is a lot older than that. Did you know that "barbarian" comes from the Romans, who thought that all other languages, especially Germanic ones like German and the early predecessor of English from their time period, sounded like "bar bar bar bar"? Or that the Romans were just assholes to the Germans in general? So, yeah, fuck you, ancient Rome (ironically, I'm 75% German, 25% Italian). Not to mention tribal warfare in Africa and Asia, or the Japanese and their horrible racism towards the rest of Asia (to be fair, they're the only Asian country that's first world, has a sane-ish government, isn't big on the "cruel and unusual punishment" and tends to be the source of innovation, so they do have a bit of a good reason for their ego).
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 20, 2013, 08:34:40 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/fe419747179e69cb0cd4693a4d478989/tumblr_mpzz6qCjrs1ryeto5o1_500.png)

I'm learning something new every day.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: QueenofHearts on July 20, 2013, 09:41:37 pm
It really depends on how the guy said "I like that skirt!" She said he was yelling it, and if he said it with an intentionally suggestive tone, then I can understand being annoyed. I wouldn't respond the same way she did, probably just ignore him.

On the other hand, we've both found that a lot of people who are seeing persecution and discrimination where there is none tend to change their story when retelling it, sometimes (as with the woman who claimed to have spit in the face of a cashier for supposedly trying to touch her inappropriately by handing her change back) to the point of absurdity. Either they're intentionally spicing it up to make it sound more justified or they're thinking back on it afterward and letting their own opinions color the memory of the events.

For all we know, it was a regular guy who was genuinely complimenting her on her skirt and suddenly being shouted at for it.

I don't think his intentions were entirely pure by the way he called her a bitch at the end. I think if he did just intend it as a passing compliment, he would've apologized when she told him to back the fuck off and left it at that. A personal anecdote. About this time last year I was walking through the mall and a guy I've never seen told me "hey, I like your boots." I wasn't too confident in my voice so I walked by him without saying anything. After a few steps I hear him say "fine then, be a bitch." So, clearly, he was just using that innocent little compliment because he was hoping I would melt before his eyes and sleep with him right there. How can a woman tell the difference between someone who sincerely means those words and someone using those sweet nothings solely because they degrade women to sex objects? We can't. But a good way to not look like a tool is if a woman wants to be left alone, then apologize, and leave her alone. No man, except Chris Hemsworth, is entitled to our time.

Likewise, street harassment isn't just "hey there sugartits" or "nice ass." It's any form of talking to someone when they don't want it. Women hear both of them on a regular basis, that is "hey, I like your boots" and "nice ass." Clearly, the latter is just gonna get an annoyed sigh from me. The former, depending on the time of day, how I feel, whether or not I feel you're sincere, etc. can result in me being quiet, me asking to be left alone, or me opening up to you. If you get brushed off and push the issue, it's harassment.

And Chit, this is one of those things you don't understand. I say that from being in your shoes. Pre-transition, I thought "so what, a couple of guys want to talk to women, what's the big deal?" It wasn't until I started passing that society just becomes a torrent of guys who can't leave you alone. Like ever. Like walking through town, through the mall, riding the bus, on the metro, waiting in line somewhere, driving, walking to class, filling your car with gas, having coffee with friends, reading a book, sitting in the sun, playing pokemon of all things, I could go on.

True or not, because of this, I love it when women stand up to creepy men. I can't do anything in public without some creepy guy hitting on me (usually about 3 people in two hours*) and I've always kept quiet or polite. I wish I could tell people off like her, real or fake, I've seen countless creepy people who deserve that treatment. And the thing is, the creepy people just love to rationalize their actions from annoying & harassing to "well, it's only a compliment." Because of how common this rationalization is and how much men just don't understand it, in claims of street harassment, it would be more than safe to defer to the person being harassed. Who, sadly, is almost always a woman**.

*I made a game out of it one day while walking through the mall doing Christmas shopping. I called it "count the creepers." That number has been surprisingly consistent over the last 7 months (not including when I go clubbing).

**Not that men don't face street harassment here and there, just never at the same frequency as near always to understand how annoying it is.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 20, 2013, 10:20:13 pm
Queen, I pretty much agree, and excellent post. The one thing I can't be too sure on is that by calling her a bitch he showed he had bad intentions. I know if I got screamed at by someone I was being nice to, I'd be rather bitter, and if it was a total stranger who wasn't in obvious distress, I might say something out loud. If it was someone I knew, even in passing (and didn't hate), or someone who seemed to already be having present issues, I'd leave it alone, but I know that even on a really good day I'd be pissed if someone got mad at me for trying to be nice. Then again, I'm the kind of person that generally tries to make people's days better. I've been in more than one situation where I'm the lone person helping someone who is bawling their eyes out while nobody pays attention or cares. If you complimented someone and their response was "Shut the fuck up", I don't see you, or pretty much anyone responding well to that, let alone apologizing.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: MadmanJohnson on July 20, 2013, 10:37:43 pm
It really depends on how the guy said "I like that skirt!" She said he was yelling it, and if he said it with an intentionally suggestive tone, then I can understand being annoyed. I wouldn't respond the same way she did, probably just ignore him.

On the other hand, we've both found that a lot of people who are seeing persecution and discrimination where there is none tend to change their story when retelling it, sometimes (as with the woman who claimed to have spit in the face of a cashier for supposedly trying to touch her inappropriately by handing her change back) to the point of absurdity. Either they're intentionally spicing it up to make it sound more justified or they're thinking back on it afterward and letting their own opinions color the memory of the events.

For all we know, it was a regular guy who was genuinely complimenting her on her skirt and suddenly being shouted at for it.

*Snippity snip snip!
I feel stupid but, who is Chris Hemsworth?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: QueenofHearts on July 20, 2013, 10:41:01 pm
It really depends on how the guy said "I like that skirt!" She said he was yelling it, and if he said it with an intentionally suggestive tone, then I can understand being annoyed. I wouldn't respond the same way she did, probably just ignore him.

On the other hand, we've both found that a lot of people who are seeing persecution and discrimination where there is none tend to change their story when retelling it, sometimes (as with the woman who claimed to have spit in the face of a cashier for supposedly trying to touch her inappropriately by handing her change back) to the point of absurdity. Either they're intentionally spicing it up to make it sound more justified or they're thinking back on it afterward and letting their own opinions color the memory of the events.

For all we know, it was a regular guy who was genuinely complimenting her on her skirt and suddenly being shouted at for it.

*Snippity snip snip!
I feel stupid but, who is Chris Hemsworth?

This guy. (http://forums.fstdt.net/index.php?topic=3267.msg119495#msg119495) He is entitled to my time :P
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 20, 2013, 10:43:17 pm
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Note that I didn't edit the last one.
I can't tell if they're a really extreme radfem, or a brilliant troll.

But what I love best about this blogger is how they consider everything to be "literally rape" with the only exception being actual rape of course!
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Jack Mann on July 20, 2013, 11:31:27 pm
Racism is a lot older than that. Did you know that "barbarian" comes from the Romans, who thought that all other languages, especially Germanic ones like German and the early predecessor of English from their time period, sounded like "bar bar bar bar"? Or that the Romans were just assholes to the Germans in general? So, yeah, fuck you, ancient Rome (ironically, I'm 75% German, 25% Italian). Not to mention tribal warfare in Africa and Asia, or the Japanese and their horrible racism towards the rest of Asia (to be fair, they're the only Asian country that's first world, has a sane-ish government, isn't big on the "cruel and unusual punishment" and tends to be the source of innovation, so they do have a bit of a good reason for their ego).

Greeks, actually, and they were talking mostly about the Medes and the Persians (when they weren't making fun of the accents of other Greeks).  By the time the Romans took it up, it had evolved to simply meaning "foreign person."  But yeah, racism is a lot older than the "white people/darkies" dichotomy we've seen in the last few centuries.

See, I get annoyed at this whole attempt to redefine racism.  Just like I get annoyed at people who deny that misandry exists.  Now, racism is a much more serious problem when it has social power behind it, sure.  Misogyny hurts women a hell of a lot more than misandry hurts men, for much the same reason.  I agree that these are not equivalent issues.  But when you have to redefine words to win your argument, you've given up on intellectual honesty.  This is especially galling when you already have a sufficiently strong argument.  You just have to put in a little effort.

By trying to redefine words beyond their present meanings, they've made their own arguments much weaker, and damaged their cause.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Sigmaleph on July 21, 2013, 02:06:44 am
Racism is a lot older than that. Did you know that "barbarian" comes from the Romans, who thought that all other languages, especially Germanic ones like German and the early predecessor of English from their time period, sounded like "bar bar bar bar"? Or that the Romans were just assholes to the Germans in general? So, yeah, fuck you, ancient Rome (ironically, I'm 75% German, 25% Italian). Not to mention tribal warfare in Africa and Asia, or the Japanese and their horrible racism towards the rest of Asia (to be fair, they're the only Asian country that's first world, has a sane-ish government, isn't big on the "cruel and unusual punishment" and tends to be the source of innovation, so they do have a bit of a good reason for their ego).

Greeks, actually, and they were talking mostly about the Medes and the Persians (when they weren't making fun of the accents of other Greeks).  By the time the Romans took it up, it had evolved to simply meaning "foreign person."  But yeah, racism is a lot older than the "white people/darkies" dichotomy we've seen in the last few centuries.

See, I get annoyed at this whole attempt to redefine racism.  Just like I get annoyed at people who deny that misandry exists.  Now, racism is a much more serious problem when it has social power behind it, sure.  Misogyny hurts women a hell of a lot more than misandry hurts men, for much the same reason.  I agree that these are not equivalent issues.  But when you have to redefine words to win your argument, you've given up on intellectual honesty.  This is especially galling when you already have a sufficiently strong argument.  You just have to put in a little effort.

By trying to redefine words beyond their present meanings, they've made their own arguments much weaker, and damaged their cause.

The thing that bothers me the most is that, by pretending that racism was "invented by white people", they are ignoring that prejudice is basically a human universal. Distrusting people who are visibly different from you is the default state for human cultures, it takes a lot of exposure to people of different ethnicities/cultures/etc. for a society to even begin to conceive of the notion that racism is a bad thing.

It is said that the first lesson for the student of scepticism must drive home the point that they are making these mistakes in thinking, before you even consider teaching them to recognise them in others. The danger is the half-sceptic that makes no effort to improve their arguments but has a neat repertoire of easy ways to dismiss those of others. The same principle applies here. If you think of prejudice as something that happens to other people, you will be blind to your own.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: gyeonghwa on July 21, 2013, 04:52:02 am
Totally gonna just butt in here, but that whole "stop redefining racism" spiel annoys the crap out of me. You need to understand that different social groups define terms differently (which isn't something new, that's as old as language itself). For many people of color and people who pursue an academic discourse on race, racism means institutionalized racism which means white supremacy/the social history of people of color. It has a history of social context related to colonialism. And it's okay for these people to define it as such because to them it make sense. Ethnic violence and tensions have existed long before colonialism and existed virtually everywhere that wasn't a very isolated inhabited island. And these ethnic tensions do contribute to our understanding of race and racism, but again for many people the understanding of racism is instead based of European colonialism.

Now some people might say "well, the dictionary definition". Well the dictionary only gives a very preliminary examination of racism. There are other definitions and analysis of racism. You do not have to accept those definition (in the same way people of color do not have to accept the dictionary's definition), but I personally think it would be very helpful if more people understood that other people operate under different contexts of race.

I'm not going to defend that particular tumblr post because it's so painfully simplistic, but it just irks me when people don't try to see what people of color sees. For me, our definition racism just means we see our discrimination from a different social and historical context. That isn't to say that racial discrimination doesn't happen white people, nor does it say that discrimination that white people occasionally face isn't negative. Saying X is different from Y doesn't take away from the negativity of X. All it says is X is different from Y. That's all that's being said here, that the context of discrimination that people of color face is different from the discrimination that white people face, and for that reason many people of color view racism as white supremacy/colonialism. And again, you don't have to accept that but it is just so much more helpful in my opinion if you understood that is people of color is coming from.

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(to be fair, they're the only Asian country that's first world, has a sane-ish government, isn't big on the "cruel and unusual punishment" and tends to be the source of innovation, so they do have a bit of a good reason for their ego).

That in no way excuses all the fucked up shit they did to other Asians. They still haven't recognized that they sent hundreds of Thais to their death building a train to India, that they killed Filipinos, that they massacred Chinese, that they raped Koreans. Heck, they weren't all that friendly to the indigenous Ainus or the Zianichi Koreans that have been in Japan as far back as the unification of Korea under the Silla Kingdom. And are you forgetting that South Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Macau, and Singapore are pretty much also sources of economic development and innovations? You're painting the rest of East/Southeast Asia as some type of backward monolith. Asia has it's problems for sure, but it's pretty much as complex as the West.

If you're going to ask why I decided to come back for this post, just shoot me a PM. If not all I can say is asshole mod is the reason and if you get that then you probably can guess why I'm back.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Distind on July 21, 2013, 06:19:01 am
I don't think his intentions were entirely pure by the way he called her a bitch at the end. I think if he did just intend it as a passing compliment, he would've apologized when she told him to back the fuck off and left it at that.
That entirely depends on the person, a lot of men I know get annoyed quite quickly at having some inconsequential thing turned on them like a knife. Not everyone capitulates on a moment's notice when they don't see themselves doing anything wrong.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: QueenofHearts on July 21, 2013, 06:30:26 am
I don't think his intentions were entirely pure by the way he called her a bitch at the end. I think if he did just intend it as a passing compliment, he would've apologized when she told him to back the fuck off and left it at that.
That entirely depends on the person, a lot of men I know get annoyed quite quickly at having some inconsequential thing turned on them like a knife. Not everyone capitulates on a moment's notice when they don't see themselves doing anything wrong.

Then, guys, if you're so afraid of that happening, don't talk to women you don't know. I mean, I don't know how you were raised, but I was always told not to talk to strangers. If you take that chance, be prepared for what you get. Likewise, if a girl doesn't want to talk to you, get over it and don't call her sexist slurs.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Distind on July 21, 2013, 07:30:49 am
And if you're going to act as if talking to others is a crime, don't be suprised if they call you any and all relevant slurs.

Really, if you're not going to talk to strangers EVERYONE is going to be a stranger.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: LeTipex on July 21, 2013, 09:42:59 am
It shouldn't be hard to recognize when you're annoying someone because they don't want to talk to you, stranger or no stranger.
 
Likewise, it shouldn't be hard to recognize when somebody is complimenting you because you're cute, or when someone is harrassing you on the street.

But in writing, after the fact? For once, it's a real "he said she said" scenario.

For the record, I love talking to strangers on the street, and occasionally stop girls to tell them they're cute. (Of course, I usually tend to say something like "Sorry to disturb you, I'm not trying to hit on you, but I find you really cute! Have a great day!", so it's not a "Hey, you! Nice tits!" scenario.) I would get pretty pissed if someone just started laying on me for complimenting them, but I probably wouldn't insult them.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 21, 2013, 11:47:23 am
My family and I pretty regularly strike up conversations and even friendships with strangers. We're just nice people who enjoy being nice to others.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 21, 2013, 12:50:40 pm
I don't think his intentions were entirely pure by the way he called her a bitch at the end. I think if he did just intend it as a passing compliment, he would've apologized when she told him to back the fuck off and left it at that.
That entirely depends on the person, a lot of men I know get annoyed quite quickly at having some inconsequential thing turned on them like a knife. Not everyone capitulates on a moment's notice when they don't see themselves doing anything wrong.

Then, guys, if you're so afraid of that happening, don't talk to women you don't know. I mean, I don't know how you were raised, but I was always told not to talk to strangers. If you take that chance, be prepared for what you get. Likewise, if a girl doesn't want to talk to you, get over it and don't call her sexist slurs.
We're not afraid of it, and it's more than not wanting to talk to us. If someone ignores me when I compliment them, I get on with my day. If someone tells me to shut the fuck up for complementing them, I'd be annoyed no matter who it was. That goes for guys and girls equally, and even my idols. If you don't want to talk to someone or don't like them talking to you, then ignore them. Don't scream at them. Additionally, everyone's a stranger at first. If anyone ever completely listened to that advice, they'd be a hikikomori.

Totally gonna just butt in here, but that whole "stop redefining racism" spiel annoys the crap out of me. You need to understand that different social groups define terms differently (which isn't something new, that's as old as language itself). For many people of color and people who pursue an academic discourse on race, racism means institutionalized racism which means white supremacy/the social history of people of color. It has a history of social context related to colonialism. And it's okay for these people to define it as such because to them it make sense. Ethnic violence and tensions have existed long before colonialism and existed virtually everywhere that wasn't a very isolated inhabited island. And these ethnic tensions do contribute to our understanding of race and racism, but again for many people the understanding of racism is instead based of European colonialism.

Now some people might say "well, the dictionary definition". Well the dictionary only gives a very preliminary examination of racism. There are other definitions and analysis of racism. You do not have to accept those definition (in the same way people of color do not have to accept the dictionary's definition), but I personally think it would be very helpful if more people understood that other people operate under different contexts of race.

I'm not going to defend that particular tumblr post because it's so painfully simplistic, but it just irks me when people don't try to see what people of color sees. For me, our definition racism just means we see our discrimination from a different social and historical context. That isn't to say that racial discrimination doesn't happen white people, nor does it say that discrimination that white people occasionally face isn't negative. Saying X is different from Y doesn't take away from the negativity of X. All it says is X is different from Y. That's all that's being said here, that the context of discrimination that people of color face is different from the discrimination that white people face, and for that reason many people of color view racism as white supremacy/colonialism. And again, you don't have to accept that but it is just so much more helpful in my opinion if you understood that is people of color is coming from.

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(to be fair, they're the only Asian country that's first world, has a sane-ish government, isn't big on the "cruel and unusual punishment" and tends to be the source of innovation, so they do have a bit of a good reason for their ego).

That in no way excuses all the fucked up shit they did to other Asians. They still haven't recognized that they sent hundreds of Thais to their death building a train to India, that they killed Filipinos, that they massacred Chinese, that they raped Koreans. Heck, they weren't all that friendly to the indigenous Ainus or the Zianichi Koreans that have been in Japan as far back as the unification of Korea under the Silla Kingdom. And are you forgetting that South Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Macau, and Singapore are pretty much also sources of economic development and innovations? You're painting the rest of East/Southeast Asia as some type of backward monolith. Asia has it's problems for sure, but it's pretty much as complex as the West.

If you're going to ask why I decided to come back for this post, just shoot me a PM. If not all I can say is asshole mod is the reason and if you get that then you probably can guess why I'm back.
I'll respond to the part directly targeted at me, first. I don't think it makes what Japan has done okay. However, you ignored the fact that I brought up more than development or innovation. In Singapore, you can get death for unlawful discharge of a firearm, even if nobody is injured. You can also get it for 500 grams of pot. Anyone who is found guilty of making morphine, cocaine, heroin or meth gets a MANDATORY death penalty. It's illegal to be gay in Singapore, too. Chewing gum is also illegal, as is oral sex unless as foreplay. Bribery is so common in South Korea that traffic police must report all money they make off of it. Hong Kong might be largely autonomous, but they are still owned by China. Taiwan is still ruled by China, and it's not going to change because nobody has the balls to tell China off. Let's face it, Japan is just the least ass-backwards, least horrible nation in Asia.

As for the other part, institutionalize racism comes in many more forms than just white-on-POC. The only reason it seems it doesn't is because we're living in America. In the rest of this great, big shitty planet, it's often people who Americans would consider the same race. For example, the Hutus and Tutsis. To see it otherwise, unless talking about ONLY America, is wrong. Not a different viewpoint that is equal. Wrong. Incorrect. Historically and socially uninformed.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Clochette on July 21, 2013, 01:23:03 pm
It shouldn't be hard to recognize when you're annoying someone because they don't want to talk to you, stranger or no stranger.
 
Likewise, it shouldn't be hard to recognize when somebody is complimenting you because you're cute, or when someone is harrassing you on the street.

But in writing, after the fact? For once, it's a real "he said she said" scenario.

For the record, I love talking to strangers on the street, and occasionally stop girls to tell them they're cute. (Of course, I usually tend to say something like "Sorry to disturb you, I'm not trying to hit on you, but I find you really cute! Have a great day!", so it's not a "Hey, you! Nice tits!" scenario.) I would get pretty pissed if someone just started laying on me for complimenting them, but I probably wouldn't insult them.

If you complimented someone and they started freaking out, you should probably assume that they've had bad experiences with "compliments" in the past and let it go. Chances are she's not so much a raging feminazi as a normal woman who's tired of being leered at and just happened to snap.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 21, 2013, 01:41:20 pm
It shouldn't be hard to recognize when you're annoying someone because they don't want to talk to you, stranger or no stranger.
 
Likewise, it shouldn't be hard to recognize when somebody is complimenting you because you're cute, or when someone is harrassing you on the street.

But in writing, after the fact? For once, it's a real "he said she said" scenario.

For the record, I love talking to strangers on the street, and occasionally stop girls to tell them they're cute. (Of course, I usually tend to say something like "Sorry to disturb you, I'm not trying to hit on you, but I find you really cute! Have a great day!", so it's not a "Hey, you! Nice tits!" scenario.) I would get pretty pissed if someone just started laying on me for complimenting them, but I probably wouldn't insult them.

If you complimented someone and they started freaking out, you should probably assume that they've had bad experiences with "compliments" in the past and let it go. Chances are she's not so much a raging feminazi as a normal woman who's tired of being leered at and just happened to snap.
Even then, that doesn't make acceptable behavior. People don't get special permission to mistreat others because they're in a bad mood or have bad past experiences. If some is an asshole towards others, they get treated like any other asshole.

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~hits him~ Cut it out, you're making us actual gifted people look bad.

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Hey, fuck you. Does this sound angry to you? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pkLDEEs20U) How about this? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP0_MNj8f1Q) German has just as much range as any other language, it just sounds badass when you are angry or shouting in general.

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Maybe you should get better taste. /jeansandfunorbandshirts

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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: gyeonghwa on July 21, 2013, 02:03:22 pm
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As for the other part, institutionalize racism comes in many more forms than just white-on-POC. The only reason it seems it doesn't is because we're living in America. In the rest of this great, big shitty planet, it's often people who Americans would consider the same race. For example, the Hutus and Tutsis. To see it otherwise, unless talking about ONLY America, is wrong. Not a different viewpoint that is equal. Wrong. Incorrect. Historically and socially uninformed.

You've missed the entire point of what I posted. In particularly where I wrote that some people view racism/institutionalized racism is seen in a colonialism (and globalized) context which set up a white/PoC dichotomy. That certainly doesn't mean ethnic tension doesn't exist beyond a white-on-POC level but I'm saying is that some people don't view that as racism in a global context. All that I said was that some people view the term racism as such and that it would be nice if people understood the context on which they build that premise. And again, you write as though I belittle things like Hutu and Tutsis interethnic violence. I'm not.

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I'll respond to the part directly targeted at me, first. I don't think it makes what Japan has done okay. However, you ignored the fact that I brought up more than development or innovation. In Singapore, you can get death for unlawful discharge of a firearm, even if nobody is injured. You can also get it for 500 grams of pot. Anyone who is found guilty of making morphine, cocaine, heroin or meth gets a MANDATORY death penalty. It's illegal to be gay in Singapore, too. Chewing gum is also illegal, as is oral sex unless as foreplay. Bribery is so common in South Korea that traffic police must report all money they make off of it. Hong Kong might be largely autonomous, but they are still owned by China. Taiwan is still ruled by China, and it's not going to change because nobody has the balls to tell China off. Let's face it, Japan is just the least ass-backwards, least horrible nation in Asia

And again you are underestimating the complexity of Asia. Singapore has a lot of fucked up laws. But then you realized some of those laws, such as the anti-sodomy laws, were relics of British colonialism. Some of them, not all of them mind you. And then you have things like 21000 Singaporeans turning up to support LGBTQ rights publicly despite the fact that being LGBTQ is illegal in Singapore (http://www.fridae.asia/newsfeatures/2013/06/30/12355.record-turnout-for-singapores-lgbt-pink-dot-rally?n=sec). In fact Thailand, Vietnam and the Philippine have been way more adamant that Japan when it comes to LGBTQ rights because Japan has largely been apathetic to sexual minorities. Taiwan may be Chinese but they're autonomous. Not only that but Taiwan claims the PRC as their own, so you're forgetting that dynamic. When you write off the rest of Asia as backwards, you ignore these type of progresses. And Japan isn't all that progressive as our media often portray. The right wing is just as much poised to sweep the Diet and make it South Korea Jr. all the while rewriting their history books to whitewash Japanese atrocities against their neighbors. Not to mention that Japans economy is weakening due to their attempt at emulation austerity policies that are in place in the West. And it was only less then a decade ago they officially recognized that had non-Japanese indigenous people living in the country. You can't just sweep an entire region as barbaric and backwards without understanding their political nuances.

EDIT: And you're going to accuse me of being socially uniformed, you should at least be socially informed about how people view things in a very global context. I mean a very easy way to verify the white-on-POC viewpoint of institutionalized racism is looking at the global beauty industry and see how it values typically European features over other features. There is a reason why bleaching your skin is a thing in Africa.  No one said you personally had to accept that viewpoint, just understand that it is a view point that is valid in the eyes to a lot of people.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 21, 2013, 07:22:50 pm
Redd on Jews and Mexicans:

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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: wrightway on July 21, 2013, 07:39:49 pm
I got to see a double standard in action on Friday night. The local art festival is in full swing, and that includes a family friendly art night that included bands. One of the bands was having technical difficulties, so I was stuck sitting near a horrible human being for half an hour. She'd worn a top best described as "I'm going to convince you to buy me drinks and then trash you." Not a scrap of fabric you should wear to a family centric evening. Guys kept coming up to her to compliment her. As long as it was a cute guy, or a guy in the band, she giggled, flounced, flipped her hair, and generally acted like an airhead. The one time someone not her standard talked to her she told him to fuck off, and then loudly complained about creepy pervs long after he'd left.

I also saw the satanist my ex and I both know get into a fight with a store owner. He wrote "god is dead" on the guy's store in chalk right next to some little kid's "Jesus lives!" drawing. He then proceeded to claim freedom of religion even though he defaced private property.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 21, 2013, 08:05:49 pm
I got to see a double standard in action on Friday night. The local art festival is in full swing, and that includes a family friendly art night that included bands. One of the bands was having technical difficulties, so I was stuck sitting near a horrible human being for half an hour. She'd worn a top best described as "I'm going to convince you to buy me drinks and then trash you." Not a scrap of fabric you should wear to a family centric evening. Guys kept coming up to her to compliment her. As long as it was a cute guy, or a guy in the band, she giggled, flounced, flipped her hair, and generally acted like an airhead. The one time someone not her standard talked to her she told him to fuck off, and then loudly complained about creepy pervs long after he'd left.

I also saw the satanist my ex and I both know get into a fight with a store owner. He wrote "god is dead" on the guy's store in chalk right next to some little kid's "Jesus lives!" drawing. He then proceeded to claim freedom of religion even though he defaced private property.
I personally don't care what she wore, but how she was acting sounded like a bitch of the highest caliber. As for the Satanist, while he sounds like a douche, I don't consider a mostly-naked man with a gaping chest wound nailed to a Roman torture device and left to bake in the sun while starving, suffering from dehydration and likely sleep deprivation to be very family friendly, either.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: starseeker on July 21, 2013, 08:15:39 pm
I got to see a double standard in action on Friday night. The local art festival is in full swing, and that includes a family friendly art night that included bands. One of the bands was having technical difficulties, so I was stuck sitting near a horrible human being for half an hour. She'd worn a top best described as "I'm going to convince you to buy me drinks and then trash you." Not a scrap of fabric you should wear to a family centric evening. Guys kept coming up to her to compliment her. As long as it was a cute guy, or a guy in the band, she giggled, flounced, flipped her hair, and generally acted like an airhead. The one time someone not her standard talked to her she told him to fuck off, and then loudly complained about creepy pervs long after he'd left.

I also saw the satanist my ex and I both know get into a fight with a store owner. He wrote "god is dead" on the guy's store in chalk right next to some little kid's "Jesus lives!" drawing. He then proceeded to claim freedom of religion even though he defaced private property.
I personally don't care what she wore, but how she was acting sounded like a bitch of the highest caliber. As for the Satanist, while he sounds like a douche, I don't consider a mostly-naked man with a gaping chest wound nailed to a Roman torture device and left to bake in the sun while starving, suffering from dehydration and likely sleep deprivation to be very family friendly, either.

Crucifixion kills by suffocation mainly. Slow suffocation.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 21, 2013, 08:21:14 pm
Once you are too weak to 'lift yourself' to get the pressure off your ribs/lungs you slowly suffocate.

Odd how you learn things from tv when they weren't meaning to teach such things.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: wrightway on July 21, 2013, 08:29:44 pm
I got to see a double standard in action on Friday night. The local art festival is in full swing, and that includes a family friendly art night that included bands. One of the bands was having technical difficulties, so I was stuck sitting near a horrible human being for half an hour. She'd worn a top best described as "I'm going to convince you to buy me drinks and then trash you." Not a scrap of fabric you should wear to a family centric evening. Guys kept coming up to her to compliment her. As long as it was a cute guy, or a guy in the band, she giggled, flounced, flipped her hair, and generally acted like an airhead. The one time someone not her standard talked to her she told him to fuck off, and then loudly complained about creepy pervs long after he'd left.

I also saw the satanist my ex and I both know get into a fight with a store owner. He wrote "god is dead" on the guy's store in chalk right next to some little kid's "Jesus lives!" drawing. He then proceeded to claim freedom of religion even though he defaced private property.
I personally don't care what she wore, but how she was acting sounded like a bitch of the highest caliber. As for the Satanist, while he sounds like a douche, I don't consider a mostly-naked man with a gaping chest wound nailed to a Roman torture device and left to bake in the sun while starving, suffering from dehydration and likely sleep deprivation to be very family friendly, either.

Eh, she was hitting one of my buttons. Dressing to attract attention and then whining when the wrong fish nibbles the bait.

My main thing was that he almost came to blows with the guy. Because he wrote on the guy's property. And the store owner was trying to be nice. He started off by just washing the chalk off the wall. That should have been that. But H just had to come back and start screaming about oppression. Dude, if you'd written on the street like the other chalk writers none of this would have happened.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: MadmanJohnson on July 21, 2013, 08:32:32 pm
I also saw the satanist my ex and I both know get into a fight with a store owner. He wrote "god is dead" on the guy's store in chalk right next to some little kid's "Jesus lives!" drawing. He then proceeded to claim freedom of religion even though he defaced private property.
What a asshat. EVEN WE'RE NOT THAT MEAN.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 22, 2013, 04:29:29 am
I got to see a double standard in action on Friday night. The local art festival is in full swing, and that includes a family friendly art night that included bands. One of the bands was having technical difficulties, so I was stuck sitting near a horrible human being for half an hour. She'd worn a top best described as "I'm going to convince you to buy me drinks and then trash you." Not a scrap of fabric you should wear to a family centric evening. Guys kept coming up to her to compliment her. As long as it was a cute guy, or a guy in the band, she giggled, flounced, flipped her hair, and generally acted like an airhead. The one time someone not her standard talked to her she told him to fuck off, and then loudly complained about creepy pervs long after he'd left.

I also saw the satanist my ex and I both know get into a fight with a store owner. He wrote "god is dead" on the guy's store in chalk right next to some little kid's "Jesus lives!" drawing. He then proceeded to claim freedom of religion even though he defaced private property.
I personally don't care what she wore, but how she was acting sounded like a bitch of the highest caliber. As for the Satanist, while he sounds like a douche, I don't consider a mostly-naked man with a gaping chest wound nailed to a Roman torture device and left to bake in the sun while starving, suffering from dehydration and likely sleep deprivation to be very family friendly, either.

Eh, she was hitting one of my buttons. Dressing to attract attention and then whining when the wrong fish nibbles the bait.

My main thing was that he almost came to blows with the guy. Because he wrote on the guy's property. And the store owner was trying to be nice. He started off by just washing the chalk off the wall. That should have been that. But H just had to come back and start screaming about oppression. Dude, if you'd written on the street like the other chalk writers none of this would have happened.
As I said, douche, but not supportive of the "Jesus lives" message either.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Yla on July 22, 2013, 11:56:34 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/b82215f9177ad765687b5a0a19d3dbe8/tumblr_mq90wkAETC1ryeto5o1_500.png)
~hits him~ Cut it out, you're making us actual gifted people look bad.
What's your problem with that? I've been that way as a child - making a mistake about something I considered my core competence (for example math) triggered a strong reaction. In the most extreme case I recall I literally hit my head against the wall crying for misunderstanding a exam question and wasting time and eventually getting my first 2 (B in American grades) in math for it.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 23, 2013, 12:50:25 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/1d1d50ac9dc74b4bedfea110299d78b3/tumblr_mqb295gE2r1ryeto5o1_400.png)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/f7397f9474da23c4095a4a5528d5a425/tumblr_mqb1apHDh61ryeto5o1_500.png)

Presented without comment.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 23, 2013, 03:00:52 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/9e3e023274faa4967d5e8d87d27add38/tumblr_mpt7s98ctz1ryeto5o1_500.png)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/a53f8c62085f6bc700ed4ad941f27b68/tumblr_mpziba2IT31ryeto5o1_1280.png)
Another from the "Guy tries to be nice, crazy person freaks out" world.

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/27eacd6ff4d63279d156075b8741a4c0/tumblr_mpr22vt4CJ1ryeto5o1_1280.png)
No, that's a good thing about being biromantic.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/cec50873ec4d89138e7a1517a294e898/tumblr_mpxsf8GmEu1ryeto5o1_500.png)
That moment when you know someone is defending cheating but you're too much of a pathetic wimp to call out your fellow SJWs so you instead say stupid shit to try to help them.



Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 23, 2013, 10:10:53 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/a2b7591e099daa09af03dbac4fa23618/tumblr_mpowv69lcM1sv50kgo1_500.png)

That's one edgy troll.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Art Vandelay on July 24, 2013, 03:22:16 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/a2b7591e099daa09af03dbac4fa23618/tumblr_mpowv69lcM1sv50kgo1_500.png)
You know what? Try it. Just see what happens next.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Yla on July 24, 2013, 05:01:29 am
http://notalwaysright.com/so-slow-it-hertz-part-2/30892 (http://notalwaysright.com/so-slow-it-hertz-part-2/30892)
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: ThunderWulf on July 24, 2013, 10:11:54 am
http://notalwaysright.com/so-slow-it-hertz-part-2/30892 (http://notalwaysright.com/so-slow-it-hertz-part-2/30892)

I've actually met people like this.  When I was in college a bunch of us were sitting in the cafeteria together, and one of the guys at the table was poking fun at himself for being short.  This woman, no joke, comes over and tells him that he's being insensitive and that short people are just "vertically impaired".  I wish I could make that up.

Though trying to be overly PC because of a COMPUTER is even more absurd.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 24, 2013, 10:15:15 am
http://notalwaysright.com/so-slow-it-hertz-part-2/30892 (http://notalwaysright.com/so-slow-it-hertz-part-2/30892)

I've actually met people like this.  When I was in college a bunch of us were sitting in the cafeteria together, and one of the guys at the table was poking fun at himself for being short.  This woman, no joke, comes over and tells him that he's being insensitive and that short people are just "vertically impaired".  I wish I could make that up.

Though trying to be overly PC because of a COMPUTER is even more absurd.
Being PC over a PC. Wow. I call my computer retarded, stupid, slow, a motherless son of a whore, a flaming pile of shit and things that would make SJWs practice necromancy to kill me again and again.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Meshakhad on July 24, 2013, 04:45:45 pm
http://notalwaysright.com/so-slow-it-hertz-part-2/30892 (http://notalwaysright.com/so-slow-it-hertz-part-2/30892)

I've actually met people like this.  When I was in college a bunch of us were sitting in the cafeteria together, and one of the guys at the table was poking fun at himself for being short.  This woman, no joke, comes over and tells him that he's being insensitive and that short people are just "vertically impaired".  I wish I could make that up.

Though trying to be overly PC because of a COMPUTER is even more absurd.
Being PC over a PC. Wow. I call my computer retarded, stupid, slow, a motherless son of a whore, a flaming pile of shit and things that would make SJWs practice necromancy to kill me again and again.

Shut up, you biocentric monster!
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Sleepy on July 24, 2013, 06:15:34 pm
http://notalwaysright.com/so-slow-it-hertz-part-2/30892 (http://notalwaysright.com/so-slow-it-hertz-part-2/30892)

I've actually met people like this.  When I was in college a bunch of us were sitting in the cafeteria together, and one of the guys at the table was poking fun at himself for being short.  This woman, no joke, comes over and tells him that he's being insensitive and that short people are just "vertically impaired".  I wish I could make that up.

Though trying to be overly PC because of a COMPUTER is even more absurd.

I don't know whether to laugh or just put my face through a wall. I tend to take most online accounts of such things with a grain of salt, but to actually see it happen and know that such people exist... It's painful.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: anti-nonsense on July 24, 2013, 08:10:09 pm
when my computer can pass the Turing Test I will worry about it's hypothetical feelings, until then, I laugh in the face of anyone who gets PC over computers.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: solar. on July 24, 2013, 09:41:29 pm
I once dated somebody who got angry at a friend for yelling at Siri.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: shy on July 24, 2013, 11:17:52 pm
Don't you people realize? Siri has feelings...

...oh wait.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: solar. on July 24, 2013, 11:36:28 pm
Don't you people realize? Siri has feelings...

...oh wait.
She did say something to that effect actually. And the reason she thinks robots have emotions is stupid. She was playing some game and something terrible apparently happened to one of the characters (I believe the game was The Sims) and she felt REALLY bad about it.

I'd understand feeling bad for a fictional character in a story-heavy game like the Suikoden series, but such was not the case with her.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Clochette on July 24, 2013, 11:43:40 pm
Don't you people realize? Siri has feelings...

...oh wait.
She did say something to that effect actually. And the reason she thinks robots have emotions is stupid. She was playing some game and something terrible apparently happened to one of the characters (I believe the game was The Sims) and she felt REALLY bad about it.

I'd understand feeling bad for a fictional character in a story-heavy game like the Suikoden series, but such was not the case with her.

I would tell her that the fact that she felt bad was proof of her own humanity, not the robot's.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Lithp on July 25, 2013, 04:35:50 am
That's not so ridiculous, actually. She may have simply objected to his use of the word as normalizing it. Ex. if I call my computer a "fag," I'm not automatically in the right just because it's a computer, & therefore cannot have a sexual orientation to mock.

Although, she is definitely a bit mentally impaired for assuming that "slow" was being used to refer to "stupid," & not actual speed.

Also, you guys have made me ponder where we draw the line between real emotions & fake ones.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: RavynousHunter on July 25, 2013, 12:05:38 pm
That's not so ridiculous, actually. She may have simply objected to his use of the word as normalizing it. Ex. if I call my computer a "fag," I'm not automatically in the right just because it's a computer, & therefore cannot have a sexual orientation to mock.

Although, she is definitely a bit mentally impaired for assuming that "slow" was being used to refer to "stupid," & not actual speed.

Also, you guys have made me ponder where we draw the line between real emotions & fake ones.

Having spent most of my childhood faking at least half my emotional reactions to everything, I can tell ya that there's a definite difference.  Can't exactly put it into words, but I can tell, at least.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 26, 2013, 02:27:41 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/be5084130e12ff1cf52bcf73feef2324/tumblr_mq1lstMcef1ryeto5o1_500.png)

Of course he is.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Auri-El on July 26, 2013, 05:15:23 am
In their headspace?? As in, he's their headmate? Is that what that means? But he's a person. How is that a thing? I mean, be a dragon or a wolf or a toaster, if that's what you want. But you can't just say this real person lives in your head. That's just... wrong.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 26, 2013, 06:14:14 am
Oh man, you haven't even seen the tip of the iceberg yet:

(click to show/hide)

There was also some guy who claimed to have one of the Columbine shooters as a headmate.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 26, 2013, 06:19:08 am
Quote
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/e9da4f776003af1b59035342616e54af/tumblr_mhnu6pRWZd1ryeto5o1_500.png)

Ateitches?

Tateke?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: anti-nonsense on July 26, 2013, 06:21:36 am
That's a homestuck reference, one of the character s replaces Bs and "ate" sounds with 8s.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Lithp on July 26, 2013, 08:40:29 am
What the Hell is with the manta ray?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Errata on July 26, 2013, 09:07:19 am
The hell is with any of this? Is it like Otherkin or something? This reminds me of that lady who wanted her legs paralyzed because she had "body identity disorder" or something.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 26, 2013, 09:16:23 am
"Multiple Manta", a lame meme for Tumblr multiples.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 26, 2013, 12:25:32 pm
The hell is with any of this? Is it like Otherkin or something? This reminds me of that lady who wanted her legs paralyzed because she had "body identity disorder" or something.

My exact reaction to that story was: I'll trade you bodies if you want to not walk so bad. I'd love to walk again.

While I'm here:

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/4ee69ba97f663e3a9b2a6eb004a9ea84/tumblr_mqjwesNG2j1ryeto5o1_500.png)

YEA! ANNE FRANK WAS TOTALLY BI! Or totally dealing with puberty and experimenting like teens and young adults do during that time. And it's totally problematic demisexuality (which just about everyone is considered to be) isn't mentioned!

And I suppose it's really horrible that people consider Jack Harkness to be bisexual.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Errata on July 26, 2013, 01:29:10 pm
The hell is with any of this? Is it like Otherkin or something? This reminds me of that lady who wanted her legs paralyzed because she had "body identity disorder" or something.

My exact reaction to that story was: I'll trade you bodies if you want to not walk so bad. I'd love to walk again.

While I'm here:

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/4ee69ba97f663e3a9b2a6eb004a9ea84/tumblr_mqjwesNG2j1ryeto5o1_500.png)

YEA! ANNE FRANK WAS TOTALLY BI! Or totally dealing with puberty and experimenting like teens and young adults do during that time. And it's totally problematic demisexuality (which just about everyone is considered to be) isn't mentioned!

And I suppose it's really horrible that people consider Jack Harkness to be bisexual.

Freddy Mercury and Anne Frank are ALL the famous people? Christ, the bar for "famous" must be enormous. I mean, who can compete with the guy who sang the song from Wayne's World and a girl who was murdered by a regime? No one who isn't bisexual, that's for sure!
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 26, 2013, 05:15:49 pm
Oh man, you haven't even seen the tip of the iceberg yet:

(click to show/hide)

There was also some guy who claimed to have one of the Columbine shooters as a headmate.

There was also someone who claimed to have Tom Hiddleston as their headmate.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: solar. on July 26, 2013, 09:53:31 pm
The hell is a "headmate"?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 26, 2013, 09:59:25 pm
An imaginary friend for grown-ups, basically.

People who follow me on tumblr will sometimes hear me talk about my Shepard 'being in my head' but it's not the same thing. A muse is different from a headmate. I think you can discern the difference.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 26, 2013, 10:31:51 pm
The hell is a "headmate"?
SJW term for a split personality.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 27, 2013, 12:20:30 am
I have a hard time believing this story to be true:

Quote
I just recently moved to a new city and I was unfamiliar with a lot of the retail stores, and I accidentally stepped into a plus-size store.
Clerk: Uh, can I help you?
Me: Well, I’m new in town and looking for some trendy stores to shop in.
Clerk: Well, you’re not going to find anything here.
Me: Excuse me?
Clerk: This is a plus-sized store, like have you heard of that notion?  We don’t cater to skinny-ass anorexic bitches here.
Me: Uh… oh wow, I mean… there’s no need to speak to me like that… I didn’t know…
Clerk: Sure you didn’t, you skinny skanks are all alike, you come in here and try to oppress us fatties right out of our own stores! Get out, and don’t forget to check your damn privilege on the way out!
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Sigmaleph on July 27, 2013, 12:53:34 am
Based on my experience as a writer of terrible dialogue, I can say with some degree of confidence that that conversation never took place and the author is afflicted with my same condition.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 27, 2013, 06:44:12 am
More multiple bullshit:

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnmo3vjcnP1qm6k5ro1_400.jpg)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnhqv05ZPA1qjkbp4o1_400.png)

(http://cdn.meme.li/instances/460x/19485057.jpg)

(http://cdn.meme.li/instances/460x/10658123.jpg)
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Sleepy on July 27, 2013, 08:23:41 am
I have a hard time believing this story to be true:

Quote
I just recently moved to a new city and I was unfamiliar with a lot of the retail stores, and I accidentally stepped into a plus-size store.
Clerk: Uh, can I help you?
Me: Well, I’m new in town and looking for some trendy stores to shop in.
Clerk: Well, you’re not going to find anything here.
Me: Excuse me?
Clerk: This is a plus-sized store, like have you heard of that notion?  We don’t cater to skinny-ass anorexic bitches here.
Me: Uh… oh wow, I mean… there’s no need to speak to me like that… I didn’t know…
Clerk: Sure you didn’t, you skinny skanks are all alike, you come in here and try to oppress us fatties right out of our own stores! Get out, and don’t forget to check your damn privilege on the way out!

This is just pathetic, really. If you're going to make up a story in an attempt to support your cause, try to at least use some plausible dialogue.


More multiple bullshit:
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnhqv05ZPA1qjkbp4o1_400.png)

It's like they're admitting they're full of shit.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Askold on July 27, 2013, 08:32:28 am
More multiple bullshit:
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnhqv05ZPA1qjkbp4o1_400.png)

It's like they're admitting they're full of shit.
a) I don't think that this meme is being done by those "multiple" folks. I always thought it was a parody.
b) I remember when I first heard about this whole thingy was from a post where someone was talking about their experiences being with headmates. They specifically said that they were afraid of watching movies or such because the new headmates might be too scary as the realism might make them fall into uncanny valley area. So they only watched cartoons and comics because those headmates were easier to handle.

I think at some point the person was talking about how Sephiroth or some other villain was a troublesome headmate and had to be subdued or something.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 27, 2013, 08:38:39 am
^^ It eventually turned into a parody, but it was originally started by "multiples" to bitch about their problems.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 27, 2013, 09:57:01 am
Can a headmate have its own headmate?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Art Vandelay on July 27, 2013, 10:02:12 am
Can a headmate have its own headmate?
Indeed they can, apparently. No only that, but a headmate's headmate can also have headmates of their own.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Søren on July 27, 2013, 10:12:56 am
Can a headmate have its own headmate?
Indeed they can, apparently. No only that, but a headmate's headmate can also have headmates of their own.

Oh sweet jesus I should not have read that when im this tired
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 27, 2013, 12:09:51 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/83ca9bdc99b6b46c59201bf020164a12/tumblr_mpkmbcL2tE1ryeto5o1_500.png)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/068aa952dcef37da9a6a2f0df06deafb/tumblr_mpr2chdBjY1ryeto5o1_500.png)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/83dd4cb0705720f466bf9f21ad01c1a6/tumblr_mpjiii4vbb1ryeto5o1_1280.png)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/cdc59fbd3902ab59131f44beec3e4f3f/tumblr_mph3gz5Tdy1ryeto5o1_1280.png)
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Askold on July 27, 2013, 12:52:16 pm
I saw this one comment saying that minimum wage is "white privilidge."

It had more and tried to justify that claim but unfortunately my mind just did not comprehend those poor words that had been mangled into a mockery of sentences. Something about only those with privileges being able to have "rights" and therefore something something privilege.

But now I can't seem to find it anymore. Well that's not a great loss.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Flying Mint Bunny! on July 27, 2013, 01:23:57 pm
I have a hard time believing this story to be true:

Quote
I just recently moved to a new city and I was unfamiliar with a lot of the retail stores, and I accidentally stepped into a plus-size store.
Clerk: Uh, can I help you?
Me: Well, I’m new in town and looking for some trendy stores to shop in.
Clerk: Well, you’re not going to find anything here.
Me: Excuse me?
Clerk: This is a plus-sized store, like have you heard of that notion?  We don’t cater to skinny-ass anorexic bitches here.
Me: Uh… oh wow, I mean… there’s no need to speak to me like that… I didn’t know…
Clerk: Sure you didn’t, you skinny skanks are all alike, you come in here and try to oppress us fatties right out of our own stores! Get out, and don’t forget to check your damn privilege on the way out!

This reminds me of that Pretty Woman scene where they won't let her buy the clothes.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: wrightway on July 27, 2013, 01:31:37 pm
I have a hard time believing this story to be true:

Quote
I just recently moved to a new city and I was unfamiliar with a lot of the retail stores, and I accidentally stepped into a plus-size store.
Clerk: Uh, can I help you?
Me: Well, I’m new in town and looking for some trendy stores to shop in.
Clerk: Well, you’re not going to find anything here.
Me: Excuse me?
Clerk: This is a plus-sized store, like have you heard of that notion?  We don’t cater to skinny-ass anorexic bitches here.
Me: Uh… oh wow, I mean… there’s no need to speak to me like that… I didn’t know…
Clerk: Sure you didn’t, you skinny skanks are all alike, you come in here and try to oppress us fatties right out of our own stores! Get out, and don’t forget to check your damn privilege on the way out!

No way is this true. No way. No reasonably trained sales clerk would act like this.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 27, 2013, 02:46:52 pm

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/068aa952dcef37da9a6a2f0df06deafb/tumblr_mpr2chdBjY1ryeto5o1_500.png)

In that case I'll buy five copies.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Lithp on July 27, 2013, 03:43:47 pm
The funny thing is, I can actually conceive of a social justice weirdo getting a job in retail & acting like that when she thinks no one is looking.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Sigmaleph on July 27, 2013, 05:32:17 pm
Can a headmate have its own headmate?
Indeed they can, apparently. No only that, but a headmate's headmate can also have headmates of their own.

If headmates can have headmates* of their own, and the whole "factive" thing establishes that you can have an actual living person as a headmate, then I believe the logical next question is: Can A have B as headmate, who has C, who has D .... who has A, starting the cycle over again? Infinite recursion depth!

And of course, the obvious question after that is: Does Douglas Hofstadter have himself as a headmate?

*I'm sure the tumblrs have more specific terminology for this, differentiating "having a headmate" in the "system containing individual" and "individual sharing the head with other individual" interpretations, I mean the former in this case. Better formalised as "Can the set A have B as member, where B is a set that has A as a member? Of course, this violates Z-F set theory, but I doubt they would care.



In unrelated commentary:

Quote
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/83dd4cb0705720f466bf9f21ad01c1a6/tumblr_mpjiii4vbb1ryeto5o1_1280.png)

Why is this here?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Lithp on July 27, 2013, 06:38:43 pm
Honestly, that's pretty fuckin' vague. There's nothing to suggest that anything rapey was going to happen, but nothing that completely rules it out. In the end, I'm just wondering why the fuck those 2 are together. "Opposites attract" is not meant to be taken that literally!
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: ironbite on July 27, 2013, 07:05:45 pm
The hell is a "headmate"?
SJW term for a split personality.

You're wrong.  It's an SJW term for an imaginary friend.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Lithp on July 27, 2013, 07:11:02 pm
An imaginary split personality friend.

What I don't understand is, if these people are going to fake multiple personalities, why do they make shitty ones like a vampire who's afraid of pooping? Go balls out, full on Tyler Durden shit.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Clochette on July 27, 2013, 07:17:47 pm
It always puzzled me that the species distribution of therians wasn't closer to reality. Like it seems like there's a disproportionate number of wolves and big cats compared to, say, cockroaches.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: ironbite on July 27, 2013, 07:24:48 pm
Because bugs are ickey!

Ironbite-and thus nobody wants that to be their spirit animal.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Flying Mint Bunny! on July 27, 2013, 07:31:38 pm
Because bugs are ickey!

Ironbite-and thus nobody wants that to be their spirit animal.

A bee wouldn't be a bad spirit animal. You could post crap about being a beekin and get all angry about bee rights regarding honey production. Maybe throw in some insectism as well.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: RavynousHunter on July 27, 2013, 07:52:52 pm
Because bugs are ickey!

Ironbite-and thus nobody wants that to be their spirit animal.

A bee wouldn't be a bad spirit animal. You could post crap about being a beekin and get all angry about bee rights regarding honey production. Maybe throw in some insectism as well.

(http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/4/5/2/452_slide.jpg)
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Iosa the Invincible on July 27, 2013, 07:53:58 pm
Because bugs are ickey!

Ironbite-and thus nobody wants that to be their spirit animal.

A bee wouldn't be a bad spirit animal. You could post crap about being a beekin and get all angry about bee rights regarding honey production. Maybe throw in some insectism as well.

Dreamworks already made a movie about that, minus the whole 'bee otherkin' thing.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 27, 2013, 08:20:05 pm
Speaking vaguely seriously, would bugs even have theoretical souls?  They're closer to organic robots, seems like.

Speaking sillily, I can imagine a tumblr beekin talking about how she finds herself trying to communicate in dance to her family and how they just don't understand.

...

Spiderkin, Spiderkin
Does whatever a spider can
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 27, 2013, 09:49:19 pm
I do want to point out let's not confuse spirit animal with otherkin or therian. They are completely different. It's like comparing apples to oranges.

A spirit animal, in the real term not the "Oh Tom Hiddleston is my spirit animal" way, is a teacher. A guide. Which isn't at all close to the whole otherkin/therian thing at all.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 27, 2013, 11:05:41 pm
I do want to point out let's not confuse spirit animal with otherkin or therian. They are completely different. It's like comparing apples to oranges.

A spirit animal, in the real term not the "Oh Tom Hiddleston is my spirit animal" way, is a teacher. A guide. Which isn't at all close to the whole otherkin/therian thing at all.
I am going to be a really big pain in the ass, because this is my pet peeve. Apples and oranges are both see-containing fruit with skins that are somewhat hard, intended to protect them, and are warm colors on the color wheel. Both grow from trees, both are edible, both are sweet, both are made into snacks, juices and various confections. Both are common in still life paintings, and both are healthy foods. Why the fuck are they the go-to for "completely different things"? We can't even say it's from olden times, because, IIRC, "apple" used to mean "fruit". Sorry, the rant's not directed at you, the phrase just really pisses me off.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Canadian Mojo on July 27, 2013, 11:36:20 pm
I do want to point out let's not confuse spirit animal with otherkin or therian. They are completely different. It's like comparing apples to oranges.

A spirit animal, in the real term not the "Oh Tom Hiddleston is my spirit animal" way, is a teacher. A guide. Which isn't at all close to the whole otherkin/therian thing at all.
I am going to be a really big pain in the ass, because this is my pet peeve. Apples and oranges are both see-containing fruit with skins that are somewhat hard, intended to protect them, and are warm colors on the color wheel. Both grow from trees, both are edible, both are sweet, both are made into snacks, juices and various confections. Both are common in still life paintings, and both are healthy foods. Why the fuck are they the go-to for "completely different things"? We can't even say it's from olden times, because, IIRC, "apple" used to mean "fruit". Sorry, the rant's not directed at you, the phrase just really pisses me off.

Apples are temperate climate crops and oranges are sub-tropical. One requires a winter to grow whereas will kill the other. One has a hard tightly adhering skin that is edible while the other has a soft loosely attached skin that is largely inedible. The seeds of one are contained in a central core, the seeds of the other are scattered throughout. Cultivation, pest control, harvesting, processing, and types of products produced bare a passing similarity at best.


The beauty of the saying is that they are broadly similar, you would think that it is possible to compare them -- until you look at the details and realize that they are very different and that while making generalizations is possible making meaningful comparisons is not.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 27, 2013, 11:58:32 pm
I do want to point out let's not confuse spirit animal with otherkin or therian. They are completely different. It's like comparing apples to oranges.

A spirit animal, in the real term not the "Oh Tom Hiddleston is my spirit animal" way, is a teacher. A guide. Which isn't at all close to the whole otherkin/therian thing at all.
I am going to be a really big pain in the ass, because this is my pet peeve. Apples and oranges are both see-containing fruit with skins that are somewhat hard, intended to protect them, and are warm colors on the color wheel. Both grow from trees, both are edible, both are sweet, both are made into snacks, juices and various confections. Both are common in still life paintings, and both are healthy foods. Why the fuck are they the go-to for "completely different things"? We can't even say it's from olden times, because, IIRC, "apple" used to mean "fruit". Sorry, the rant's not directed at you, the phrase just really pisses me off.

Apples are temperate climate crops and oranges are sub-tropical. One requires a winter to grow whereas will kill the other. One has a hard tightly adhering skin that is edible while the other has a soft loosely attached skin that is largely inedible. The seeds of one are contained in a central core, the seeds of the other are scattered throughout. Cultivation, pest control, harvesting, processing, and types of products produced bare a passing similarity at best.


The beauty of the saying is that they are broadly similar, you would think that it is possible to compare them -- until you look at the details and realize that they are very different and that while making generalizations is possible making meaningful comparisons is not.
Pest control, harvesting and processing are man-made differences. Naturally, pest control is mostly luck, harvesting is picking it and processing is what your large intestine does. The other ares are minor differences vs. the rest. They're also a similar size, weight and toughness.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 28, 2013, 12:09:44 am
It's a decent phrase if used correctly. A lot of people use it to mean "total opposites", when it actually refers to two things that (as Canadian Mojo said) are similar in general, but aren't quite the same thing due to differences in the specifics.

Shane's post if a good example of it being used correctly.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 28, 2013, 12:19:05 am
Thanks. I haven't used that phrase in forever.

Tho now I want to play the Apples to Apples game.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Jack Mann on July 28, 2013, 02:33:37 am
I do want to point out let's not confuse spirit animal with otherkin or therian. They are completely different. It's like comparing apples to oranges.

A spirit animal, in the real term not the "Oh Tom Hiddleston is my spirit animal" way, is a teacher. A guide. Which isn't at all close to the whole otherkin/therian thing at all.
I am going to be a really big pain in the ass, because this is my pet peeve. Apples and oranges are both see-containing fruit with skins that are somewhat hard, intended to protect them, and are warm colors on the color wheel. Both grow from trees, both are edible, both are sweet, both are made into snacks, juices and various confections. Both are common in still life paintings, and both are healthy foods. Why the fuck are they the go-to for "completely different things"? We can't even say it's from olden times, because, IIRC, "apple" used to mean "fruit". Sorry, the rant's not directed at you, the phrase just really pisses me off.

Apples are temperate climate crops and oranges are sub-tropical. One requires a winter to grow whereas will kill the other. One has a hard tightly adhering skin that is edible while the other has a soft loosely attached skin that is largely inedible. The seeds of one are contained in a central core, the seeds of the other are scattered throughout. Cultivation, pest control, harvesting, processing, and types of products produced bare a passing similarity at best.


The beauty of the saying is that they are broadly similar, you would think that it is possible to compare them -- until you look at the details and realize that they are very different and that while making generalizations is possible making meaningful comparisons is not.
Pest control, harvesting and processing are man-made differences. Naturally, pest control is mostly luck, harvesting is picking it and processing is what your large intestine does. The other ares are minor differences vs. the rest. They're also a similar size, weight and toughness.

Why are man-made differences less valid, when it's humans doing the comparison?

What do I care about apples and oranges except as they relate to me?  The fact that they require very different cultivation methods, taste quite different to me, and are eaten differently, are plenty enough difference. 
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: RavynousHunter on July 28, 2013, 08:51:40 am
Why are man-made differences less valid, when it's humans doing the comparison?

Because you're human, and therefore any differences you make are meaningless.  Or somesuch bullshit, I dunno.  I honestly don't get the whole "IT DOESN'T COUNT IF HUMANS DO IT!!!!!11!!1!1ELEVENTY" thing.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 28, 2013, 09:11:29 am
I do want to point out let's not confuse spirit animal with otherkin or therian. They are completely different. It's like comparing apples to oranges.

A spirit animal, in the real term not the "Oh Tom Hiddleston is my spirit animal" way, is a teacher. A guide. Which isn't at all close to the whole otherkin/therian thing at all.
I am going to be a really big pain in the ass, because this is my pet peeve. Apples and oranges are both see-containing fruit with skins that are somewhat hard, intended to protect them, and are warm colors on the color wheel. Both grow from trees, both are edible, both are sweet, both are made into snacks, juices and various confections. Both are common in still life paintings, and both are healthy foods. Why the fuck are they the go-to for "completely different things"? We can't even say it's from olden times, because, IIRC, "apple" used to mean "fruit". Sorry, the rant's not directed at you, the phrase just really pisses me off.

Apples are temperate climate crops and oranges are sub-tropical. One requires a winter to grow whereas will kill the other. One has a hard tightly adhering skin that is edible while the other has a soft loosely attached skin that is largely inedible. The seeds of one are contained in a central core, the seeds of the other are scattered throughout. Cultivation, pest control, harvesting, processing, and types of products produced bare a passing similarity at best.


The beauty of the saying is that they are broadly similar, you would think that it is possible to compare them -- until you look at the details and realize that they are very different and that while making generalizations is possible making meaningful comparisons is not.
Pest control, harvesting and processing are man-made differences. Naturally, pest control is mostly luck, harvesting is picking it and processing is what your large intestine does. The other ares are minor differences vs. the rest. They're also a similar size, weight and toughness.

Why are man-made differences less valid, when it's humans doing the comparison?

What do I care about apples and oranges except as they relate to me?  The fact that they require very different cultivation methods, taste quite different to me, and are eaten differently, are plenty enough difference. 
Two reasons: first off, it's an old phrase, and that evidence comes after the phrase's creation. So, the makers of the phrase (sadly, the origin is unknown, but it's got to be old for how many languages it's in) did not think of it like that. Secondly, because we're comparing apples and oranges, not human viewpoints on apples and oranges. And, they're not eaten extremely differently (outside of skinning one and not the other, they're pretty much the same, you don't normally use condiments or a fork or a spoon or cook one). They taste more similar than different (apples and oranges certainly are more similar than steak and oranges, or apples and broccoli, or apples and chocolate, or pizza and oranges). Both are also eaten uncooked and unfrozen, by the way.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 28, 2013, 09:53:02 am
Are we seriously having a multi-page debate over the similarities and differences between apples of oranges?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: QueenofHearts on July 28, 2013, 09:53:31 am
Are we seriously having a multi-page debate over the similarities and differences between apples of oranges?

F'n A we are!
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 28, 2013, 10:03:48 am
Quick, post your legs!
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Distind on July 28, 2013, 10:12:41 am
I think we should enshrine this somewhere, just to prove that these forums can argue over anything.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Jack Mann on July 28, 2013, 10:31:23 am
Dammit, Mlle, we are nerds.  We are nerds on the internet.  If we don't have this argument, then who the hell will?  Those damned LARPers down at the Chortling Goblin?  I don't think so.

PHH, humans have been cultivating both apples and oranges for longer than there has been an English language.  I daresay that most of those differences were pretty well known before the phrase was grown.  Sure, they didn't know about things like genetics, but they did know that apples grew well one way, oranges another.  They knew that the ways you harvested the one didn't apply to the other.  And you don't eat the two the same.  You almost always peel an orange, and then eat the easily-separable pieces.  Peeling an orange amounts to pulling the skin away.  Apples typically aren't peeled when eaten plain, and if they are, it involves a knife. 

And no shit they're less different than, say, apples and steak or oranges and radioactive waste.  That's the point.  They're something that is similar enough that someone might compare it.  No one's gonna compare an apple to a cow.  But at the same time, you can't fault an apple for not being a good orange.  You can't fault an orange for not having a nice smooth green skin.  That's why this is a vital issue to the American People in these troubled times.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 28, 2013, 10:44:33 am
Dammit, Mlle, we are nerds.  We are nerds on the internet.  If we don't have this argument, then who the hell will?  Those damned LARPers down at the Chortling Goblin?  I don't think so.

PHH, humans have been cultivating both apples and oranges for longer than there has been an English language.  I daresay that most of those differences were pretty well known before the phrase was grown.  Sure, they didn't know about things like genetics, but they did know that apples grew well one way, oranges another.  They knew that the ways you harvested the one didn't apply to the other.  And you don't eat the two the same.  You almost always peel an orange, and then eat the easily-separable pieces.  Peeling an orange amounts to pulling the skin away.  Apples typically aren't peeled when eaten plain, and if they are, it involves a knife. 

And no shit they're less different than, say, apples and steak or oranges and radioactive waste.  That's the point.  They're something that is similar enough that someone might compare it.  No one's gonna compare an apple to a cow.  But at the same time, you can't fault an apple for not being a good orange.  You can't fault an orange for not having a nice smooth green skin.  That's why this is a vital issue to the American People in these troubled times.
We may have been cultivating them for a long period of time, but we were harvesting and processing them the same way. People pick them, place them in baskets. Later, they eat them. Also, I didn't say you ate then the exact same way, I said it's extremely similar. Again, you eat most foods in a much different way. Also, I rarely hear it being used to say "comparing things that are similar but not the same".

From Wikipedia: A comparison of apples and oranges occurs when two items or groups of items are compared that cannot be practically compared.

From McGraw-Hill Dictionary of American Idioms and Phrasal Verbs, on "apples and oranges": two entities that are not similar

From Cambridge Idioms Dictionary, 2nd ed: if two people or things are apples and oranges, they are completely different

Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Mira on July 28, 2013, 11:15:27 am
Jesus Fucking Christ, what the fuck?'

ETA: Goddamn fucking hell
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 28, 2013, 11:19:59 am
(http://i39.tinypic.com/2zxmkx0.gif)
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Mira on July 28, 2013, 11:43:49 am
I agree
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 28, 2013, 03:22:05 pm
This is probably one of the weirder debates we've had on the forum.

This is also why I love this place.  Well, one of the reasons why, at least.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Sigmaleph on July 28, 2013, 03:50:24 pm
Allow me to further mess things up by pointing out that, according to The Ultimate Authority on Everything*, the following expressions have meanings equivalent to "apples and oranges":

Serbian: Поредити бабе и жабе (comparing grandmothers and toads)
Romanian: baba şi mitraliera (the grandmother and the machine gun); vaca şi izmenele (the cow and the longjohns); țiganul şi carioca (the gypsy and the marker)
Danish: Hvad er højest, Rundetårn eller et tordenskrald? (What is highest, the Round Tower or a thunderclap?)
Russian: сравнивать тёплое с мягким (to compare warm and soft).

So, which is it? Are apples an oranges supposed to be "similar yet different", or "have fuck-all to do with each other"? If the first, then how are these expressions equivalent? If the second, why choose apples and oranges, with all the similarities they actually do have?

I hereby propose that people who mean to say "Completely different" use something like "Constitutional monarchies and toothpicks", and reserve "apples and oranges" for the purpose of speaking of things that have similarities but should be considered separately.


*Iä! Iä! Wikipedia Fhtagn!
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 28, 2013, 05:31:07 pm
I should've never posted that Goddamn phrase is that what you are telling me?

To break up the apples and oranges debate:

Quote
friendly reminder:

punch a white cis man on the balls daily! (◡‿◡✿)
make sure to kick him when he’s down! (✿◠‿◠)
and take his wallet (◕‿◕✿)

No. Bad blogger. *whaps with newspaper* BAD!
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 28, 2013, 06:28:29 pm
Allow me to further mess things up by pointing out that, according to The Ultimate Authority on Everything*, the following expressions have meanings equivalent to "apples and oranges":

Serbian: Поредити бабе и жабе (comparing grandmothers and toads)
Romanian: baba şi mitraliera (the grandmother and the machine gun); vaca şi izmenele (the cow and the longjohns); țiganul şi carioca (the gypsy and the marker)
Danish: Hvad er højest, Rundetårn eller et tordenskrald? (What is highest, the Round Tower or a thunderclap?)
Russian: сравнивать тёплое с мягким (to compare warm and soft).

So, which is it? Are apples an oranges supposed to be "similar yet different", or "have fuck-all to do with each other"? If the first, then how are these expressions equivalent? If the second, why choose apples and oranges, with all the similarities they actually do have?

I hereby propose that people who mean to say "Completely different" use something like "Constitutional monarchies and toothpicks", and reserve "apples and oranges" for the purpose of speaking of things that have similarities but should be considered separately.


*Iä! Iä! Wikipedia Fhtagn!
I personally like using "apples and [something completely odd and random, that is not a fruit, and is rarely food at all]".

I should've never posted that Goddamn phrase is that what you are telling me?

To break up the apples and oranges debate:

Quote
friendly reminder:

punch a white cis man on the balls daily! (◡‿◡✿)
make sure to kick him when he’s down! (✿◠‿◠)
and take his wallet (◕‿◕✿)

No. Bad blogger. *whaps with newspaper* BAD!
And, yeppers ^_^
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: wrightway on July 28, 2013, 06:36:31 pm
I should've never posted that Goddamn phrase is that what you are telling me?

To break up the apples and oranges debate:

Quote
friendly reminder:

punch a white cis man on the balls daily! (◡‿◡✿)
make sure to kick him when he’s down! (✿◠‿◠)
and take his wallet (◕‿◕✿)

No. Bad blogger. *whaps with newspaper* BAD!

Can we play SJW Survivor? We can drop these special snowflakes in my primarily white, straight, cis, christian hometown and the winner is the last one to be arrested/ have a nervous breakdown.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 28, 2013, 06:45:40 pm
I should've never posted that Goddamn phrase is that what you are telling me?

To break up the apples and oranges debate:

Quote
friendly reminder:

punch a white cis man on the balls daily! (◡‿◡✿)
make sure to kick him when he’s down! (✿◠‿◠)
and take his wallet (◕‿◕✿)

No. Bad blogger. *whaps with newspaper* BAD!

Can we play SJW Survivor? We can drop these special snowflakes in my primarily white, straight, cis, christian hometown and the winner is the last one to be arrested/ have a nervous breakdown.
Are you kidding? It'd be a bloodbath.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: wrightway on July 28, 2013, 06:50:28 pm
I should've never posted that Goddamn phrase is that what you are telling me?

To break up the apples and oranges debate:

Quote
friendly reminder:

punch a white cis man on the balls daily! (◡‿◡✿)
make sure to kick him when he’s down! (✿◠‿◠)
and take his wallet (◕‿◕✿)

No. Bad blogger. *whaps with newspaper* BAD!

Can we play SJW Survivor? We can drop these special snowflakes in my primarily white, straight, cis, christian hometown and the winner is the last one to be arrested/ have a nervous breakdown.
Are you kidding? It'd be a bloodbath.

Well, then we learn if there's such a thing as a funny bloodbath. The movie Dogma claims there is, but I've never seen it in practice. /heavily joking
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 28, 2013, 06:55:36 pm
I should've never posted that Goddamn phrase is that what you are telling me?

To break up the apples and oranges debate:

Quote
friendly reminder:

punch a white cis man on the balls daily! (◡‿◡✿)
make sure to kick him when he’s down! (✿◠‿◠)
and take his wallet (◕‿◕✿)

No. Bad blogger. *whaps with newspaper* BAD!

Can we play SJW Survivor? We can drop these special snowflakes in my primarily white, straight, cis, christian hometown and the winner is the last one to be arrested/ have a nervous breakdown.
Are you kidding? It'd be a bloodbath.

Well, then we learn if there's such a thing as a funny bloodbath. The movie Dogma claims there is, but I've never seen it in practice. /heavily joking
Nah, a funny bloodbath is if it happens at Fox News.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 28, 2013, 08:52:23 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/544b3fba612d5454fb89361704f0134d/tumblr_mpefudF3rU1ryeto5o1_1280.png)

There are so many things wrong with this I don't even have time to go over them all.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 28, 2013, 09:27:09 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/544b3fba612d5454fb89361704f0134d/tumblr_mpefudF3rU1ryeto5o1_1280.png)

There are so many things wrong with this I don't even have time to go over them all.

Smells like Zeitgeist to me.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Sigmaleph on July 28, 2013, 09:46:18 pm
Fun fact: the Latin root of the word virgin is virgo. You might be shocked to learn that, in Latin, virgo means... drumroll please...

...virgin.

Meanwhile, the word virile has a different Latin root, virīlitās, which translates to 'manliness' or 'virility'.

I know, it blew my mind too.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Lithp on July 28, 2013, 09:57:29 pm
I've heard that "virgin" was often used to mean "young woman," but I think that had more to do with the assumption that all "proper" young women were, well, virgins.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 28, 2013, 10:00:35 pm
I've heard that "virgin" was often used to mean "young woman," but I think that had more to do with the assumption that all "proper" young women were, well, virgins.

Isn't that from translating the Bible for Mary to not be a virgin as we know it now?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Jack Mann on July 28, 2013, 10:58:40 pm
The ultimate root of virile is vir, man.  It literally means "manly."
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: RavynousHunter on July 29, 2013, 12:36:27 am
Let us also not forget that, in Latin, vagina means "sheath."

/pointless-facts
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 29, 2013, 10:47:23 pm
"E-Mail: please don’t assign *patient* any consequences when he doesn’t follow milieu expectations. He says having to follow the same rules as other patients is triggering. Thank you."

That's it. That's the thread.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: solar. on July 29, 2013, 10:58:17 pm
"E-Mail: please don’t assign *patient* any consequences when he doesn’t follow milieu expectations. He says having to follow the same rules as other patients is triggering. Thank you."

That's it. That's the thread.
Wait, what? Context, please? How could something like that be triggering?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 29, 2013, 11:40:51 pm
There is no context. There can't be context. That's the whole point.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 30, 2013, 12:12:05 am
I wonder what that person is a "patient" for.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 30, 2013, 12:40:09 am
Where's it from? Seriously, I'm one minute away from turning into a Dalek and yelling "EXPLAIN! EXPLAIN!"
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 30, 2013, 12:47:52 am
It was on tumblr. lol That is literally the entire post I grabbed.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 30, 2013, 12:53:10 am
It was on tumblr. lol That is literally the entire post I grabbed.
So, a psychological patient (I think we can all agree here that if there's a thing about not following society's expectations/rules, it's likely psychological), is now allowed to do whatever. Well, shit.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 30, 2013, 12:54:36 am
...I'm thinking whoever wrote that needs to be admitted to their own hospital.

There's a certain amount of insanity involved in giving in to someone's demands like that, especially considering that I doubt that it's genuinely triggering.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 30, 2013, 12:59:09 am
...I'm thinking whoever wrote that needs to be admitted to their own hospital.

There's a certain amount of insanity involved in giving in to someone's demands like that, especially considering that I doubt that it's genuinely triggering.
Exactly. I mean, holy fucking shit, are you serious? The scariest part is, there's a good chance this is a place for the mentally disabled. As in, the retarded. So, yeah. Some of them can be extremely destructive (my father's lost a phone and three pairs of glasses to the same one at his job).
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 30, 2013, 01:23:16 am
Quote
Sometimes I fantasize about slowly starving fucking thin privileged bigots in a medieval-style cage, suspended in a courtyard.

(http://i.imgur.com/ALimvu6.gif)
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: LeTipex on July 30, 2013, 08:13:43 am
Quote
Sometimes I fantasize about slowly starving fucking thin privileged bigots in a medieval-style cage, suspended in a courtyard.
I've got a better idea. Let's put you in the cage! This way, you can have thin privilege too!

Asshole.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: RavynousHunter on July 30, 2013, 10:05:19 am
Quote
Sometimes I fantasize about slowly starving fucking thin privileged bigots in a medieval-style cage, suspended in a courtyard.
I've got a better idea. Let's put you in the cage! This way, you can have thin privilege too!

Asshole.

Put them in a cage, let them eat a normal (SO ABLEIST) diet...but let a monkey poke them with a stick all day, all night, for months on end.  See how long it takes before they either expire from lack of sleep, or legitimately go insane.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Flying Mint Bunny! on July 30, 2013, 11:34:23 am
Quote
Sometimes I fantasize about slowly starving fucking thin privileged bigots in a medieval-style cage, suspended in a courtyard.
I've got a better idea. Let's put you in the cage! This way, you can have thin privilege too!

Asshole.

Put them in a cage, let them eat a normal (SO ABLEIST) diet...but let a monkey poke them with a stick all day, all night, for months on end.  See how long it takes before they either expire from lack of sleep, or legitimately go insane.

I'm actually surprised they are suggesting starving thin bigots as punishment.

I've always got the impression that these extreme SJW types just assume that all thin people are anorexics and therefore starve themselves anyway?

Wouldn't it make more sense for them to suggest force feeding thin bigots in a similar way to the gluttony murder in Se7en, so that they become the very thing they hate.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Valerius on July 30, 2013, 11:39:41 am
Emphasis added:
Quote
Sometimes I fantasize about slowly starving fucking thin privileged bigots in a medieval-style cage, suspended in a courtyard.
I've got a better idea. Let's put you in the cage! This way, you can have thin privilege too!

Asshole.

Put them in a cage, let them eat a normal (SO ABLEIST) diet...but let a monkey poke them with a stick all day, all night, for months on end.  See how long it takes before they either expire from lack of sleep, or legitimately go insane.

I'm actually surprised they are suggesting starving thin bigots as punishment.

I've always got the impression that these extreme SJW types just assume that all thin people are anorexics and therefore starve themselves anyway?

Wouldn't it make more sense for them to suggest force feeding thin bigots in a similar way to the gluttony murder in Se7en, so that they become the very thing they hate.

See, there's your problem. Expecting SJWs to actually make sense is an exercise in futility.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: ironbite on July 30, 2013, 05:48:48 pm
"E-Mail: please don’t assign *patient* any consequences when he doesn’t follow milieu expectations. He says having to follow the same rules as other patients is triggering. Thank you."

That's it. That's the thread.

Following the rules....is triggering......................................................

Ironbite-anyone got a spare rocket?  I don't want to live here anymore.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 30, 2013, 06:30:32 pm
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Sometimes I fantasize about slowly starving fucking thin privileged bigots in a medieval-style cage, suspended in a courtyard.
I've got a better idea. Let's put you in the cage! This way, you can have thin privilege too!

Asshole.

Put them in a cage, let them eat a normal (SO ABLEIST) diet...but let a monkey poke them with a stick all day, all night, for months on end.  See how long it takes before they either expire from lack of sleep, or legitimately go insane.

I'm actually surprised they are suggesting starving thin bigots as punishment.

I've always got the impression that these extreme SJW types just assume that all thin people are anorexics and therefore starve themselves anyway?

Wouldn't it make more sense for them to suggest force feeding thin bigots in a similar way to the gluttony murder in Se7en, so that they become the very thing they hate.

See, there's your problem. Expecting SJWs to actually make sense is an exercise in futility.

You can't expect them to exercise their futility because exercise is a thin-able bodied privilege!
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 31, 2013, 03:00:01 pm
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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Meshakhad on July 31, 2013, 03:03:37 pm
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Of all the insane social justice movements, the "health privilege" crowd is the most maddening.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 31, 2013, 03:08:55 pm
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Of all the insane social justice movements, the "health privilege" crowd is the most maddening.
Nah. The people screaming "cultural appropriation" are worse. Especially when they bitch about white women twerking. Mind you, nobody, white or black, should twerk. You look like a twerp when you twerk.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 31, 2013, 03:30:21 pm
Fuck it, I'm fat and I know I'm not healthy because of it.

That being said not all fat people are unhealthy.  What matters more is exercise and diet, not how much fat you have.  It seems like fatness would follow that but not always, as is in some genetic related conditions.

Also people calling non-fat people fat can go to hell.  Seriously.

Actually the people who bring it up in the first place.  Unlike smoking, I'm not infecting you with my second-hand fatness.  My health is actually none of your business, and I don't need your condescending "concern".  You're only going to make things worse for me by trying to bring it up.

Not to mention 90% of the time it's just hecklers looking for a cheap laugh rather than anyone actually concerned.  And funnily enough, a lot of these hecklers are, themselves, fat.

To me, "Fat Acceptance" doesn't mean "BEING FAT IS A GOOD THING", but rather "Some of us can't help it, others can but need help, and quite frankly, it's none of your business.  Also, stop calling body types that don't actually have much in the way of fat, "Fat", it's erroneous.

Also, eating disorders are a thing.  Food addiction is a thing.  And unlike smoking, food is everywhere, it's actually the center of our culture, right next to pop culture.  You can't escape food commercials, food ads, people eating food.  At least with smoking they actually banned cigarette ads."
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Sleepy on July 31, 2013, 05:35:41 pm
I've seen several people try to justify other people's obesity as being their business because they have to pay for it in taxes.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Lithp on July 31, 2013, 07:55:20 pm
[7:55:07 PM] Advent Snail: "I hate it when men go shopping for their families because these dudes are like the most considerate people ever."

That's actually followed by a pretty good point, but I think that part is funny.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Meshakhad on July 31, 2013, 08:56:13 pm
Nah. The people screaming "cultural appropriation" are worse. Especially when they bitch about white women twerking. Mind you, nobody, white or black, should twerk. You look like a twerp when you twerk.

True. I want to make a post about how democratic nations are appropriating Greek culture or something similar.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on July 31, 2013, 09:00:54 pm
Nah. The people screaming "cultural appropriation" are worse. Especially when they bitch about white women twerking. Mind you, nobody, white or black, should twerk. You look like a twerp when you twerk.

True. I want to make a post about how democratic nations are appropriating Greek culture or something similar.

I actually think that anti-appropriation bloggers usually have good points to make - for instance, against white people appropriating a sacred Native American ritual and completely bastardizing it in the process to make money.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Lithp on July 31, 2013, 09:12:17 pm
The only instance in which I give a shit about appropriation is when it's actively promoting an offensive image of the culture. For instance, "Indian" mascots that act like savages, or blackface.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: lord gibbon on July 31, 2013, 09:15:30 pm
Exactly what I feel, too. Having a bastardized version of a native American warrior as a "redskin" or "Indian" is insulting. having a genuine and respectful fascination with the culture is not.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Lithp on July 31, 2013, 09:26:03 pm
Exactly what I feel, too. Having a bastardized version of a native American warrior as a "redskin" or "Indian" is insulting. having a genuine and respectful fascination with the culture is not.

The thing is, even if you just use a certain article of clothing, or jewelry, or tattoo, or whatever the fuck, with no motive besides "it's kinda cool," & no context, people call that racist.

'Course, others have made the argument that this is actually acceptance, & is something to be desired.
Title: Re: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: ThunderWulf on July 31, 2013, 09:29:25 pm
Exactly what I feel, too. Having a bastardized version of a native American warrior as a "redskin" or "Indian" is insulting. having a genuine and respectful fascination with the culture is not.

Yeah that pretty much sums it up.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Meshakhad on July 31, 2013, 09:38:23 pm
Nah. The people screaming "cultural appropriation" are worse. Especially when they bitch about white women twerking. Mind you, nobody, white or black, should twerk. You look like a twerp when you twerk.

True. I want to make a post about how democratic nations are appropriating Greek culture or something similar.

I actually think that anti-appropriation bloggers usually have good points to make - for instance, against white people appropriating a sacred Native American ritual and completely bastardizing it in the process to make money.

True. But then you get the crazies who basically object to anyone partaking in any cultural activity that didn't originate with their culture.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 31, 2013, 09:42:52 pm
I'll be honest, the anti-appropriation crowd would probably hate me. I have dream catchers, I believe in having an animal totem (Wolf), and I'm European. I carry the same respect for animals and nature that Native Americans do.

Am I being offensive? If you're thin-skinned. If you're intelligent you'll recognize I have a legitimate interest in the culture.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 31, 2013, 10:10:43 pm
appropriating a sacred Native American ritual and completely bastardizing it in the process to make money.

Yep. And on top of perpetuating stereotypes and using religion as a means to cash in, many of these plastic shaman have seriously injured or killed people while attempting to perform cheap knockoffs of Native rituals (sweat lodges, vision quests, etc.)

Also, I can completely understand why Natives are hurt and offended when people turn sacred regalia (warbonnets, etc.) into a fashion trend (which I wouldn't call racist so much as tacky and kind of insensitive) or dress up as caricatures of them for Halloween (which *is* racist).

That being said, purchasing things like dream catchers and moccasins isn't offensive.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Mira on July 31, 2013, 10:18:15 pm
Eating maize is cultural appropriation.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 31, 2013, 10:22:02 pm
The only way you can avoid cultural appropriation is to look back at the very ass end of your heritage, back to prehistoric times, and exclusively live your life as a nomadic hunter-gatherer.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 31, 2013, 10:25:22 pm
But then you'd be appropriating from neanderthals.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Valerius on July 31, 2013, 10:32:53 pm
But then you'd be appropriating from neanderthals.

Nope, gotta go even further back. Neanderthals existed at the same time as early Homo sapiens, and if they were on good enough terms that they were screwing each other, then you could be pretty sure that they were exchanging and sharing culture too.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on July 31, 2013, 11:20:15 pm
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Zombie movies are going to be popular as long as dudes fantasize about being in a situation where the most valuable possible trait is the capacity for heteromasculine violence and sociopathy towards the diseased and weak.

I don't even... no
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 31, 2013, 11:31:16 pm
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/291809d9e68f9a6842839a4746bc9287/tumblr_mqrs0waVhe1ryeto5o1_400.png)

*except for Riley's white friends.

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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on July 31, 2013, 11:37:36 pm
I'm just waiting for one of these incidents to happen for real, where the SJW assaults or verbally abuses someone for perceived slights, but the person then verbally (or literally) bitchslaps them for it. Or they get kicked out and/or banned for causing a scene and abusing customers and employees.

Or they start going off on someone when there's a cop right behind them.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Commissar Kaz on July 31, 2013, 11:38:41 pm
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Gee, thanks for explaining why all white people are racist instead of just making horrible generalizations and not at least trying to back them up! As you have proven that all white people are rascist, I might as well not even try to hide it any more! Anyone know where can I sign up for the KKK? Heil Hitler!

Heck, I bet the person who wrote this is white but desperately doesn't want to be.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Meshakhad on August 01, 2013, 12:32:07 am
The fact is, by being alive you are appropriating bacterial culture.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: niam2023 on August 01, 2013, 12:33:43 am
^^ I've got a spare hood, uniform, and death ray lying around.

WHITE POWER!
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: ThunderWulf on August 01, 2013, 12:48:30 am
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*except for Riley's white friends.

*facepalm*  Yes, lets talk about people who stereotype whole groups of people, by stereotyping a whole group of people.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on August 01, 2013, 12:49:29 am
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Gee, thanks for explaining why all white people are racist instead of just making horrible generalizations and not at least trying to back them up! As you have proven that all white people are rascist, I might as well not even try to hide it any more! Anyone know where can I sign up for the KKK? Heil Hitler!

Heck, I bet the person who wrote this is white but desperately doesn't want to be.

It's Riley. Your silly reality doesn't apply to Riley.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on August 01, 2013, 01:03:07 am
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/291809d9e68f9a6842839a4746bc9287/tumblr_mqrs0waVhe1ryeto5o1_400.png)

Gee, thanks for explaining why all white people are racist instead of just making horrible generalizations and not at least trying to back them up! As you have proven that all white people are rascist, I might as well not even try to hide it any more! Anyone know where can I sign up for the KKK? Heil Hitler!

Heck, I bet the person who wrote this is white but desperately doesn't want to be.

No, Riley is actually black. Someone found a picture of them from a dating site a while back.

Here's some more stuff from their quality blog:

(http://31.media.tumblr.com/096837c2f43e15995cca592f63d1af91/tumblr_mqs0eh2pPq1sw9j96o1_500.png)

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*Riley often claims to be from different cultures\races.

(http://31.media.tumblr.com/75bfb64594839b5bee73dd5f5ab61418/tumblr_mqh2t185z11sw9j96o1_500.png)

And yet this person has thousands of followers. Why?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Jack Mann on August 01, 2013, 06:35:28 am
appropriating a sacred Native American ritual and completely bastardizing it in the process to make money.

Yep. And on top of perpetuating stereotypes and using religion as a means to cash in, many of these plastic shaman have seriously injured or killed people while attempting to perform cheap knockoffs of Native rituals (sweat lodges, vision quests, etc.)

Also, I can completely understand why Natives are hurt and offended when people turn sacred regalia (warbonnets, etc.) into a fashion trend (which I wouldn't call racist so much as tacky and kind of insensitive) or dress up as caricatures of them for Halloween (which *is* racist).

That being said, purchasing things like dream catchers and moccasins isn't offensive.

I always laugh when someone talks about Native American shamans.  Shamanism originated from Northern Asia, not the Americas.  There aren't even many religions in the Americas that are shamanistic.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Commissar Kaz on August 01, 2013, 07:16:25 am
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/291809d9e68f9a6842839a4746bc9287/tumblr_mqrs0waVhe1ryeto5o1_400.png)

Gee, thanks for explaining why all white people are racist instead of just making horrible generalizations and not at least trying to back them up! As you have proven that all white people are rascist, I might as well not even try to hide it any more! Anyone know where can I sign up for the KKK? Heil Hitler!

Heck, I bet the person who wrote this is white but desperately doesn't want to be.

No, Riley is actually black. Someone found a picture of them from a dating site a while back.

Ah, okay. Well, the rest if my post still stands.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Askold on August 01, 2013, 09:27:36 am
And yet this person has thousands of followers. Why?
Because there are thousands of horrible and/or stupid people.

Be glad that they are so easy to spot and like flocking together.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Beezlebub on August 01, 2013, 09:48:23 am
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/291809d9e68f9a6842839a4746bc9287/tumblr_mqrs0waVhe1ryeto5o1_400.png)

The irony meter is starting to overheat. Should I be worried?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on August 01, 2013, 11:06:10 am
appropriating a sacred Native American ritual and completely bastardizing it in the process to make money.

Yep. And on top of perpetuating stereotypes and using religion as a means to cash in, many of these plastic shaman have seriously injured or killed people while attempting to perform cheap knockoffs of Native rituals (sweat lodges, vision quests, etc.)

Also, I can completely understand why Natives are hurt and offended when people turn sacred regalia (warbonnets, etc.) into a fashion trend (which I wouldn't call racist so much as tacky and kind of insensitive) or dress up as caricatures of them for Halloween (which *is* racist).

That being said, purchasing things like dream catchers and moccasins isn't offensive.

I always laugh when someone talks about Native American shamans.  Shamanism originated from Northern Asia, not the Americas.  There aren't even many religions in the Americas that are shamanistic.

But don't you know? All tribal cultures are identical and interchangeable!

In seriousness, though, "plastic shaman" is just a generic term used for anyone who misrepresents indigenous traditions for their own personal gain, not just idiots who claim to be "Native American shamans".
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Auri-El on August 01, 2013, 02:04:19 pm
I always thought shaman was a generic term used for any priest-like figure in indigenous traditions.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on August 01, 2013, 02:35:59 pm
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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on August 01, 2013, 02:40:11 pm
Regarding shamen, OMFGWTFBBQ HOW SEXIST!!!!! IT SHOULD BE SHAPEOPLE!!!!!!!!! Okay, SJW mode off.

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KAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHN!

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Well, didn't expect that irritation to get mentioned. I might have a little bit of pity for Evan if she wasn't in the habit of cheating on everyone she dates. That said, I still don't quite get why her parents named her that.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on August 01, 2013, 06:26:31 pm
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Yes, I'm horrible for giving my female character a male name. Even tho it's part of the point of her character to be confused for male sometimes based on how she grew up.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Flying Mint Bunny! on August 01, 2013, 06:33:43 pm
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Dandy-femme? Have no idea what that is, but i'm picturing a female version of Adam Ant in the Prince Charming video.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on August 01, 2013, 06:34:35 pm
I guess Evan can be kind of a gender neutral name. Kinda like Riley.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on August 01, 2013, 06:37:26 pm
Unisex names, how do they work?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on August 01, 2013, 06:42:23 pm
Unisex names, how do they work?
Via confusion and not working. Evan is rarely used for girls, Kelly is rarely used for boys, and people who still use them that way are to be suspected of trolling their children.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on August 01, 2013, 06:44:35 pm
There are still some names that are definitely unisex though, like Sydney, Terry, and Ariel.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on August 01, 2013, 06:45:46 pm
There are still some names that are definitely unisex though, like Sydney, Terry, and Ariel.
I'd agree for the first two, and say no to the third. Imagine a boy in elementary school with the same name as The Little Mermaid. He will either grow up to kill himself or others.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on August 01, 2013, 06:49:13 pm
There are still some names that are definitely unisex though, like Sydney, Terry, and Ariel.
I'd agree for the first two, and say no to the third. Imagine a boy in elementary school with the same name as The Little Mermaid. He will either grow up to kill himself or others.

I had a boy with the name Ariel as my babysitter for a while and he went off to a good college.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on August 01, 2013, 06:55:13 pm
There are still some names that are definitely unisex though, like Sydney, Terry, and Ariel.
I'd agree for the first two, and say no to the third. Imagine a boy in elementary school with the same name as The Little Mermaid. He will either grow up to kill himself or others.

I had a boy with the name Ariel as my babysitter for a while and he went off to a good college.
It was an exaggerating joke. Still, I wouldn't give that name to a boy because it's like poking a lion and a bear repeatedly at the same time while ass-naked and expecting to not get injured. There's a chance, if you are lucky, but damn, there's a better likelihood of getting bullied non-stop for most of your childhood.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Sigmaleph on August 01, 2013, 09:07:04 pm
Where I live, Ariel is an exclusively male name.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on August 01, 2013, 09:08:56 pm
I think the use of Ariel for boys is a very cultural thing. Much like Michel.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Jack Mann on August 01, 2013, 10:36:29 pm
I always thought shaman was a generic term used for any priest-like figure in indigenous traditions.

Nope.  It's a term from an actual religion that still exists, particularly in Siberia.  For a while, anthropologists did kind of extend it out, in a "all primitive people are basically the same" mentality, but now it's reserved for religions that at least share the main characteristics of shamanism.  Specifically, belief in a separate spirit world, which can only be accessed by specific individuals, who undergo ecstatic trances to get the spirits to intervene for their follower.  There are only a few in North America, and I think six or seven in South America that practice shamanistic religions.  Which, given the diversity of religions among the indigenous peoples, is to be expected.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: wrightway on August 02, 2013, 12:13:09 am
Angel is a unisex/gender depends on the culture name.

I never thought anything odd about Eliot on "Scrubs", even though one of the running gags was that she was given a guy name because her parents thought she'd be an only child.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on August 02, 2013, 12:19:03 am
For the record, Shane is put down as unisex but except for Shane McCutcheon from the L Word, you don't really hear of any female Shanes.

Conversely, with Paige/Page. It used to be a male driven name now it's mostly recognized as female.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on August 02, 2013, 12:20:40 am
Taylor is also becoming more commonly used as a girl's name despite having been primarily male when I was growing up (at least in Canada).
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Igor on August 02, 2013, 12:25:16 am
I used to know two female Alexes and a male Kelly, which always used to confuse my parents whenever I'd talk about school when I was younger.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on August 02, 2013, 03:05:14 am
Angel is a unisex/gender depends on the culture name.

I never thought anything odd about Eliot on "Scrubs", even though one of the running gags was that she was given a guy name because her parents thought she'd be an only child.
The best male "Angel" is a vampire who got his own spin-off show.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Søren on August 02, 2013, 05:50:40 am
Angel is also the name of the really manly hispanic cop on Dexter :o
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Lithp on August 02, 2013, 07:29:46 am
Angel is a unisex/gender depends on the culture name.

I never thought anything odd about Eliot on "Scrubs", even though one of the running gags was that she was given a guy name because her parents thought she'd be an only child.
The best male "Angel" is a vampire who got his own spin-off show.

"I had a soul before it was cool."
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on August 02, 2013, 12:10:22 pm
Angel is also the name of the really manly hispanic cop on Dexter :o
Yeppers. He's the 2nd best male Angel.

Angel is a unisex/gender depends on the culture name.

I never thought anything odd about Eliot on "Scrubs", even though one of the running gags was that she was given a guy name because her parents thought she'd be an only child.
The best male "Angel" is a vampire who got his own spin-off show.

"I had a soul before it was cool."
And now I have the mental image of Spike calling Angel a vampire hipster.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: dpareja on August 02, 2013, 12:30:31 pm
Don't forget this guy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%81ngel_Cabrera).
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Meshakhad on August 02, 2013, 12:36:19 pm
Angel is also the name of the really manly hispanic cop on Dexter :o
Yeppers. He's the 2nd best male Angel.

Angel is a unisex/gender depends on the culture name.

I never thought anything odd about Eliot on "Scrubs", even though one of the running gags was that she was given a guy name because her parents thought she'd be an only child.
The best male "Angel" is a vampire who got his own spin-off show.

"I had a soul before it was cool."
And now I have the mental image of Spike calling Angel a vampire hipster.
He totally would, too.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on August 02, 2013, 01:30:26 pm
Angel is also the name of the really manly hispanic cop on Dexter :o

"Dammit, Mawwia, you couldn't let it go."

Angel is a unisex/gender depends on the culture name.

I never thought anything odd about Eliot on "Scrubs", even though one of the running gags was that she was given a guy name because her parents thought she'd be an only child.
The best male "Angel" is a vampire who got his own spin-off show.

Angel was more likable (although still occasionally frustrating) on the spin-off, but I found him rather insufferable on Buffy. The entire "I'm tragic" shtick got old really quickly.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on August 02, 2013, 01:40:17 pm
Angel is also the name of the really manly hispanic cop on Dexter :o

"Dammit, Mawwia, you couldn't let it go."

Angel is a unisex/gender depends on the culture name.

I never thought anything odd about Eliot on "Scrubs", even though one of the running gags was that she was given a guy name because her parents thought she'd be an only child.
The best male "Angel" is a vampire who got his own spin-off show.

Angel was more likable (although still occasionally frustrating) on the spin-off, but I found him rather insufferable on Buffy. The entire "I'm tragic" shtick got old really quickly.
Agreed. He's awesome until you add her into the picture.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on August 02, 2013, 01:43:17 pm
Is it weird that I always found Angelus way more attractive than Angel, even though he was a morally repugnant piece of shit? The way he carried himself, spoke, etc. had so much more personality than Angel ever did.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on August 02, 2013, 01:44:01 pm
Is it weird that I always found Angelus way more attractive than Angel, even though he was a morally repugnant piece of shit? The way he carried himself, spoke, etc. had so much more personality than Angel ever did.
Nope. Angelus has tons of fangirls. I thought Angel got better on his show, but Angelus was always a ball of evil, evil laughs.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on August 02, 2013, 02:23:41 pm
Angel is also the name of the really manly hispanic cop on Dexter :o

"Dammit, Mawwia, you couldn't let it go."

Angel is a unisex/gender depends on the culture name.

I never thought anything odd about Eliot on "Scrubs", even though one of the running gags was that she was given a guy name because her parents thought she'd be an only child.
The best male "Angel" is a vampire who got his own spin-off show.

Angel was more likable (although still occasionally frustrating) on the spin-off, but I found him rather insufferable on Buffy. The entire "I'm tragic" shtick got old really quickly.

We all know you're just a massive Spike fangirl, tho. (Love you.) He's love's bitch but at least he was man enough to admit it unlike Angel.

Tho I find Angel just as hot as Spike. So there's that.
I used to know two female Alexes and a male Kelly, which always used to confuse my parents whenever I'd talk about school when I was younger.

My Shepard eventually has a daughter who goes by Alex. And Shepard's girlfriend is called... *drumroll* Jack. So their household is amusing.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: wrightway on August 02, 2013, 02:31:03 pm
Angel is also the name of the really manly hispanic cop on Dexter :o

"Dammit, Mawwia, you couldn't let it go."

Angel is a unisex/gender depends on the culture name.

I never thought anything odd about Eliot on "Scrubs", even though one of the running gags was that she was given a guy name because her parents thought she'd be an only child.
The best male "Angel" is a vampire who got his own spin-off show.

Angel was more likable (although still occasionally frustrating) on the spin-off, but I found him rather insufferable on Buffy. The entire "I'm tragic" shtick got old really quickly.

We all know you're just a massive Spike fangirl, tho. (Love you.) He's love's bitch but at least he was man enough to admit it unlike Angel.

Dammit, Booker! Now I need to go find a copy of "Lovers Walk."

"I got her beautiful dresses...with beautiful girls in them!"

I seem to recall an episode of season 5 where it was explained that Buffy just makes both Spike and Angel turn into loons. And the spin off comics show she can't keep any relationship going.

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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: niam2023 on August 02, 2013, 03:47:39 pm
They took his soul back from the evil demon thing, and then tried to reconstitute him.

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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Witchyjoshy on August 02, 2013, 04:23:40 pm
I have to admit that I enjoy Angel x Spike as a crack ship.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Meshakhad on August 02, 2013, 04:30:10 pm
I have to admit that I enjoy Angel x Spike as a crack ship.

Actually, on Angel, Spike implied that he and Angel had actually done it one time. Possibly as part of a foursome with Drusilla and Darla.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Witchyjoshy on August 02, 2013, 04:58:49 pm
I have to admit that I enjoy Angel x Spike as a crack ship.

Actually, on Angel, Spike implied that he and Angel had actually done it one time. Possibly as part of a foursome with Drusilla and Darla.

So maybe the ship isn't as crack as I thought it was (I forgot about that actually)

That being said, whenever things get tense between them I just feel like saying "SHUT UP AND FUCK ALREADY!"
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on August 02, 2013, 05:02:18 pm
Yeah it's heavily implied that vampires often "mate" with their sires and that that is the case with Angel and Spike. It's certainly the case with Dru and Spike.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Meshakhad on August 02, 2013, 05:17:54 pm
I have to admit that I enjoy Angel x Spike as a crack ship.

Actually, on Angel, Spike implied that he and Angel had actually done it one time. Possibly as part of a foursome with Drusilla and Darla.

So maybe the ship isn't as crack as I thought it was (I forgot about that actually)

That being said, whenever things get tense between them I just feel like saying "SHUT UP AND FUCK ALREADY!"

Hell, just throw Buffy in there and let them have a threesome.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Lithp on August 02, 2013, 10:23:22 pm
The comics sound like a total clusterfuck. I'm really only interested if they bring back Tara. And why not? They brought back damn near everyone else who died in that season.

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And now I have the mental image of Spike calling Angel a vampire hipster.

I was referencing an episode of Season 7. Buffy responded, "Oh my God, are you 12?"

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Angel was more likable (although still occasionally frustrating) on the spin-off, but I found him rather insufferable on Buffy. The entire "I'm tragic" shtick got old really quickly.

Oddly enough, I thought he was pretty cool in Seasons 2 & 3, & that subsequent seasons would have been better if he stuck around. It didn't help that I really didn't give a dick about Spike until Season 7, when he finally stopped acting like a prat. For the most part, I mean, he was funny sometimes.

Haven't seen Angel. It's not airing at the moment, & I've heard it kinda sucks.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Witchyjoshy on August 02, 2013, 10:37:22 pm
Haven't seen Angel. It's not airing at the moment, & I've heard it kinda sucks.

Odd, I've heard a lot of disappointment at the fact that it was cancelled and they had to hobble together an ending, which ended up being a cliffhanger.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Meshakhad on August 02, 2013, 11:11:53 pm
The comics sound like a total clusterfuck. I'm really only interested if they bring back Tara. And why not? They brought back damn near everyone else who died in that season.

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And now I have the mental image of Spike calling Angel a vampire hipster.

I was referencing an episode of Season 7. Buffy responded, "Oh my God, are you 12?"

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Angel was more likable (although still occasionally frustrating) on the spin-off, but I found him rather insufferable on Buffy. The entire "I'm tragic" shtick got old really quickly.

Oddly enough, I thought he was pretty cool in Seasons 2 & 3, & that subsequent seasons would have been better if he stuck around. It didn't help that I really didn't give a dick about Spike until Season 7, when he finally stopped acting like a prat. For the most part, I mean, he was funny sometimes.

Haven't seen Angel. It's not airing at the moment, & I've heard it kinda sucks.

It's good. Not as good as Buffy, but still pretty good. And in one episode Angel gets turned into a puppet.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on August 02, 2013, 11:42:16 pm
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/394a75107702da98f14c0ce3f4397a47/tumblr_mqvo81z7Xa1ryeto5o1_400.png)

I don't understand what this has to do with thin privilege.

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/6d81ba80b7ee41aa86e995173a28747a/tumblr_mq7ztguM7n1ryeto5o1_1280.png)

I feel really bad for kids whose parents make them eat reasonably healthy diets.

That's what I'm getting from this post.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Askold on August 03, 2013, 12:13:40 am
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I don't understand what this has to do with thin privilege.

Apparently some people think that the only reason why an overweight person would dress nicely is if they are a prostitute. Or that's what it seems to claim.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Witchyjoshy on August 03, 2013, 06:34:35 am
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/394a75107702da98f14c0ce3f4397a47/tumblr_mqvo81z7Xa1ryeto5o1_400.png)

I don't understand what this has to do with thin privilege.

Apparently some people think that the only reason why an overweight person would dress nicely is if they are a prostitute. Or that's what it seems to claim.

I have never heard that before.

Generally it's jeers of "HEY STOP TRYING TO BE SEXY YOU TUB OF LARD!"

And generally it's the thin, healthy people dressed up being accused of being prostitutes.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Flying Mint Bunny! on August 03, 2013, 06:53:23 am
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/394a75107702da98f14c0ce3f4397a47/tumblr_mqvo81z7Xa1ryeto5o1_400.png)

I don't understand what this has to do with thin privilege.

Apparently some people think that the only reason why an overweight person would dress nicely is if they are a prostitute. Or that's what it seems to claim.

I have never heard that before.

Generally it's jeers of "HEY STOP TRYING TO BE SEXY YOU TUB OF LARD!"

And generally it's the thin, healthy people dressed up being accused of being prostitutes.

I've heard people with big boobs say that they can't wear certain tops because they make them look like prostitutes.

I guess bigger people tend to have bigger boobs, but a thin person could have this problem as well.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: wrightway on August 03, 2013, 06:58:01 pm
They took his soul back from the evil demon thing, and then tried to reconstitute him.

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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on August 03, 2013, 07:09:29 pm
They took his soul back from the evil demon thing, and then tried to reconstitute him.

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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: wrightway on August 03, 2013, 07:13:17 pm
They took his soul back from the evil demon thing, and then tried to reconstitute him.

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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on August 03, 2013, 07:18:38 pm
They took his soul back from the evil demon thing, and then tried to reconstitute him.

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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on August 03, 2013, 08:28:19 pm
Okay, but see Giles was hot as Ripper. Okay? Okay. Just me? Okay.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on August 03, 2013, 08:49:11 pm
Okay, but see Giles was hot as Ripper. Okay? Okay. Just me? Okay.
Definitely not just you, Booker. He's also hot as the Repo Man and whenever he's reprising one of his biggest roles on stage, Dr. Frank-N-Furter. Sorry, Tim Curry, but Anthony Head is just hotter.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: wrightway on August 03, 2013, 08:55:21 pm
Okay, but see Giles was hot as Ripper. Okay? Okay. Just me? Okay.
Definitely not just you, Booker. He's also hot as the Repo Man and whenever he's reprising one of his biggest roles on stage, Dr. Frank-N-Furter. Sorry, Tim Curry, but Anthony Head is just hotter.

Thirded. Ripper was just so...mmmm yummy! And his singing voice... *fans*
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on August 03, 2013, 09:02:53 pm
Okay, but see Giles was hot as Ripper. Okay? Okay. Just me? Okay.
Definitely not just you, Booker. He's also hot as the Repo Man and whenever he's reprising one of his biggest roles on stage, Dr. Frank-N-Furter. Sorry, Tim Curry, but Anthony Head is just hotter.

Thirded. Ripper was just so...mmmm yummy! And his singing voice... *fans*
Anything Anthony Head sings is awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Uq2vaP2cLU
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on August 03, 2013, 09:07:48 pm
Anthony Head as King Pendragon was hilarious. He hated magic yet Giles used magic.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: ironbite on August 03, 2013, 09:30:39 pm
Okay, but see Giles was hot as Ripper. Okay? Okay. Just me? Okay.
Definitely not just you, Booker. He's also hot as the Repo Man and whenever he's reprising one of his biggest roles on stage, Dr. Frank-N-Furter. Sorry, Tim Curry, but Anthony Head is just hotter.

Your words anger me.

Ironbite-so...so much...*gets the pitchforks and torches*
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Lithp on August 03, 2013, 09:35:25 pm
They took his soul back from the evil demon thing, and then tried to reconstitute him.

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I thought Ripper was cool, it'd be nice to see him again, even though the "revived as a 12 year old" thing is kinda stupid.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on August 03, 2013, 10:34:12 pm
Bringing this back on topic:

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Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Damen on August 04, 2013, 01:55:33 am
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/e3ecc108c8fcef0f71787d1568a8221b/tumblr_mqu2t5fpf11ryeto5o1_500.png)

Yeah...
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on August 04, 2013, 01:58:27 am
White people speaking Spanish is appropriation?

(http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/europe/eseu.gif)

Yeah... sure...
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Meshakhad on August 04, 2013, 02:01:32 am
Okay, but see Giles was hot as Ripper. Okay? Okay. Just me? Okay.
Definitely not just you, Booker. He's also hot as the Repo Man and whenever he's reprising one of his biggest roles on stage, Dr. Frank-N-Furter. Sorry, Tim Curry, but Anthony Head is just hotter.

Thirded. Ripper was just so...mmmm yummy! And his singing voice... *fans*

Here ya go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GbVjEApiPU
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on August 04, 2013, 02:15:31 am
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Yeah...

LOL learning a language is a luxury.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Sigmaleph on August 04, 2013, 12:06:09 pm
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/e3ecc108c8fcef0f71787d1568a8221b/tumblr_mqu2t5fpf11ryeto5o1_500.png)

Yeah...

I wonder if I should accuse them of cultural appropriation, learning my language when they have the privilege of being born and raised in a first-world country.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Art Vandelay on August 04, 2013, 12:23:40 pm
That's it. Anyone who speaks English who is not of English ancestry is a racist, culture appropriating bastard who needs to stop oppressing me and my people and should ensure that any and all privilege is immediately and thoroughly checked.

Suddenly, I'm rather glad that I'm 8th or so English. Yay for loopholes.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Meshakhad on August 04, 2013, 01:20:23 pm
That's it. Anyone who speaks English who is not of English ancestry is a racist, culture appropriating bastard who needs to stop oppressing me and my people and should ensure that any and all privilege is immediately and thoroughly checked.

Suddenly, I'm rather glad that I'm 8th or so English. Yay for loopholes.

As am I. Going by my ancestry, I can claim the right to learn Gaelic, Dutch, Hebrew, Arabic, Krymchaksky, and English.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: anti-nonsense on August 04, 2013, 02:25:46 pm
I'm half English, and part Irish and Scottish, I'm also part First Nations, meaning I'm one of the relatively few people who actually has an ancestral right to live in North America.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Witchyjoshy on August 04, 2013, 03:04:52 pm
That's it. Anyone who speaks English who is not of English ancestry is a racist, culture appropriating bastard who needs to stop oppressing me and my people and should ensure that any and all privilege is immediately and thoroughly checked.

Suddenly, I'm rather glad that I'm 8th or so English. Yay for loopholes.

As am I. Going by my ancestry, I can claim the right to learn Gaelic, Dutch, Hebrew, Arabic, Krymchaksky, and English.

Going by my ancestry, I can claim the right to learn Welsh, English, Polish, and the language belonging to one kind of Native American tribe.  We're just not sure which.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on August 04, 2013, 03:17:04 pm
I claim German, Italian and the language the Seminole tribe spoke.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Meshakhad on August 04, 2013, 03:41:35 pm
Also, Jewish scholars invented hypertext, so any time you click on a link, you're appropriating Jewish culture.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Damen on August 04, 2013, 04:26:01 pm
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/1161f099a33e4d29536d74732a0b023d/tumblr_mr0jn9ySro1ryeto5o1_500.png)

Me thinks someone flunked Social Studies.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: JohnE on August 04, 2013, 06:17:04 pm
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/1161f099a33e4d29536d74732a0b023d/tumblr_mr0jn9ySro1ryeto5o1_500.png)

Me thinks someone flunked Social Studies.
He/she has a very Eurocentric understanding of history.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on August 04, 2013, 07:26:54 pm
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Me thinks someone flunked Social Studies.

Because everyone in power in India's caste system where white men. And all the Egyptian Pharaoh's were white men.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on August 04, 2013, 08:35:32 pm
I claim German, Italian and the language the Seminole tribe spoke.

German, Ukrainian, Russian, Scots-Gaelic, probably Hebrew.

So all the cool languages. I win. ;P

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/955c7a571d2fd438d8e7d0001ce3f65e/tumblr_mq8slazWQM1ryeto5o1_500.png)

Oh yes, it's so damn hard.


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Me thinks someone flunked Social Studies.

Because everyone in power in India's caste system where white men. And all the Egyptian Pharaoh's were white men.

Spartan women. The slave uprisings. Your argument is invalid.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: ironbite on August 04, 2013, 08:42:09 pm
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Me thinks someone flunked Social Studies.

Because everyone in power in India's caste system where white men. And all the Egyptian Pharaoh's were white men.

OOOOH CAN I PLAY!?

The Indian tribes, the African kings, the Aztec and Mayan empires were all white men!

Ironbite-see I can play too!
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on August 04, 2013, 09:22:10 pm
Also, exactly HOW many non-whites were in high positions of power in Greece and Rome?

Rome even had an African emperor. The Romans didn't give two shits about your ethnicity as long as you at least paid lip service to their religion and paid your taxes.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: ironbite on August 04, 2013, 09:23:30 pm
More paid your taxes then religion.

Ironbite-and that African emperor was kinda sorta raised in Rome so...does he really count?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on August 04, 2013, 09:47:14 pm
More paid your taxes then religion.

Ironbite-and that African emperor was kinda sorta raised in Rome so...does he really count?

He still wasn't white. As far as these people are concerned, white is white and POC is POC no matter where you come from.

And they were kinda serious about the religion angle, but it wasn't a "BURN THE WITCH" thing. It was more comparable to a religious community's disapproval of someone who doesn't go to church. The problem they had with Christians was a mix of propaganda about their supposedly crazy and violent rituals and the fact that they were outright defiant, rather than simply practicing at home and making token tips to the pantheon in public.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Lt. Fred on August 04, 2013, 09:47:23 pm
Also, Jewish scholars invented hypertext, so any time you click on a link, you're appropriating Jewish culture.

No shit. There's a totally cool story behind that I'm sure.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: davedan on August 04, 2013, 10:28:07 pm
Also, Jewish scholars invented hypertext, so any time you click on a link, you're appropriating Jewish culture.

No shit. There's a totally cool story behind that I'm sure.

It's by the referencing in the Talmud. Read Umberto Eco's "Travels in hyperreality". Actually just read as much of his stuff as you can get your hands on, one of the greatest living authors.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on August 04, 2013, 11:24:18 pm
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The patriarchy told me my opinion is invalid unless it’s “logical" (as defined by the patriarchy).


Apparently logic is a tool of patriarchy.

Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Sigmaleph on August 04, 2013, 11:58:15 pm
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The patriarchy told me my opinion is invalid unless it’s “logical" (as defined by the patriarchy).


Apparently logic is a tool of patriarchy.

Having seen what a number of misogynistic fuckwads call 'logic', I can't help but suspect I'd agree with this person, in context.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: gyeonghwa on August 05, 2013, 12:01:19 am
Without context, it hard to say whether or not that one is bad. Because like Sigma said, I've seen MRAs jumps through logical hoops to defend their shitty beliefs.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on August 05, 2013, 12:58:17 am
Unfortunately there was no context. So I can't tell if they're talking about MRA "logic" or not.
Perhaps that wasn't the best quote to use.

Although I did recently stumble upon a post about how the only people who look at nutrition labels at restaurants are people with eating disorders.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Witchyjoshy on August 05, 2013, 01:08:15 am
Unfortunately there was no context. So I can't tell if they're talking about MRA "logic" or not.
Perhaps that wasn't the best quote to use.

Although I did recently stumble upon a post about how the only people who look at nutrition labels at restaurants are people with eating disorders.

Well I look at nutrition labels and I'm pretty sure I have an eating disorder (I eat emotionally and I'm probably addicted to food as a whole)
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: gyeonghwa on August 05, 2013, 01:13:48 am
Some people want to look at it just to know. Some people look at it because they have a specific work out regiment. Some people look at it because they are suffering from illness that resulted from not eating and thus they'd like to know if they've gotten enough calories for the day. And some people like me do all three. I'm not sure what's inherently wrong with looking at a nutrition label.  ???
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Witchyjoshy on August 05, 2013, 01:25:25 am
I guess the idea (and therefore misconception) is that people who don't have eating disorders generally don't have to worry about their health.

I was just pointing out I wasn't the best person to try to prove that wrong....
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Askold on August 05, 2013, 01:31:24 am
My wife checks all the labels on food because she is determined to buy healthy food that suits her diet.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on August 05, 2013, 02:05:02 am
I mostly look out of curiosity. Though when I did HHN the first time, I calculated my caloric intake to determine just how much more food I was consuming to keep myself energized through the work night.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on August 05, 2013, 02:15:57 am
I like to look at them simply because I like to know what I'm eating.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on August 05, 2013, 02:37:29 am
I like to look at them simply because I like to know what I'm eating.

I don't have to worry about that because I'm basically immune to food problems. You can feed me virtually anything and I doubt I'll suffer anything unusual.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on August 05, 2013, 03:04:42 am
I look at them for the pretty numbers.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Meshakhad on August 05, 2013, 03:18:59 am
I'll look to see if it has anything non-kosher in it.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Flying Mint Bunny! on August 05, 2013, 06:50:06 am
I hardly ever read food labels and I should probably read them more.

Once I ate a whole box of these tiny jam puff pastry things, and when I looked at the nutritional information it said they were 2000 calories! I was shocked, they wern't even that filling.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Sleepy on August 05, 2013, 09:01:39 am
I sometimes read the labels out of pure boredom. If I'm eating breakfast and have a cereal box in front of me, then that's where my eyes tend to drift.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Askold on August 05, 2013, 11:07:36 am
Product labels on food...


Truly this is a discussion of the very worst of social justice...

...Hmm I'm not posting on topic either. QUICK NEED TO FIND SOMETHING. *Askold spends 15minutes at wtfsocialjustice. Askold then bangs head against desk repeatedly*

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8509mtoS21ryeto5o1_1280.png)

Here's one. You are not a proper trans* if you do not send death threats to cissexual people...
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Søren on August 05, 2013, 11:10:16 am
The only time i look at them is when im in the store looking at breakfast cereals, thats it
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Art Vandelay on August 05, 2013, 11:20:59 am
Calling someone an "internet activist" is ableist now? Are they admitting that they and the rest of the social justice twits are in fact stupid enough to actually qualify as mentally disabled?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Shane for Wax on August 05, 2013, 11:52:51 am
Product labels on food...


Truly this is a discussion of the very worst of social justice...

...Hmm I'm not posting on topic either. QUICK NEED TO FIND SOMETHING. *Askold spends 15minutes at wtfsocialjustice. Askold then bangs head against desk repeatedly*

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8509mtoS21ryeto5o1_1280.png)

Here's one. You are not a proper trans* if you do not send death threats to cissexual people...

Well shit. I better get to cracking, then. Oh wait. I just remembered. I don't care. /Sansa Stark
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Witchyjoshy on August 05, 2013, 07:05:25 pm
Calling someone an "internet activist" is ableist now? Are they admitting that they and the rest of the social justice twits are in fact stupid enough to actually qualify as mentally disabled?

Hold on, let me stretch the logic here.

lllllllllloooooooooooooooooooooooggggggggggggggggggggiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiccccccccccccccccccccc

Okay, let me try my best shot.

The logic is that if you're calling someone an internet activist, you're implying that they are too disabled to be a real activist, so you're implying that they are stupid and wrong and implying that you're superior to them and implying that you deserve your privilege to them.

implying

Yes I'm pointing out how stupid it is.  And making fun of board-chans at the same time.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Kain on August 05, 2013, 07:15:29 pm
>implying implications
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: solar. on August 05, 2013, 08:02:22 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/2cUwGSC.jpg)
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on August 05, 2013, 08:24:24 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/1ef8dd2b0e761a424ccc1512c0feccec/tumblr_mqxpiziFCV1sdpus2o1_400.png)

WHAT?!

*Please let this be a troll.*
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: chitoryu12 on August 05, 2013, 08:50:29 pm
When will someone change their forum title to "Transnigger"?

That's like, the best word.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: niam2023 on August 05, 2013, 09:14:45 pm
I did, I think.

And I agree; while that was WTF, it was also hilarious as heck.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Patches on August 05, 2013, 09:53:52 pm
This opinion article was on the CNN mainpage a bit this afternoon: http://edition.cnn.com/2013/08/01/living/parents-irpt-zorka-no-kids/index.html?iref=allsearch

Quote
I identify with many of my gay and lesbian friends in that I've always felt I should be honest about who I was. I don't think it's right to have to say, "Well, we'll have kids someday," just as I don't think it's right for a gay man to have to say, "Someday I'll meet a nice girl and settle down." Like him, this is simply who I am.

My "coming out" has been met with mixed reactions from family members.

While this woman is welcome to complain about being stigmatized for choosing not to have children, likening the disapproval from a few family members for "coming out" as childfree as being similar to the plight of gays is just ludicrous.  Wake me when "coming out" as childfree means she can be legally denied housing, employment, military service, blood donations, or marriage for that reason; when church groups set up "ex-childfree camps" where families send their daughters to cure them of their childlessness; or when advocacy groups are set up for the sole purpose of lobbying to make it illegal to not have children.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Lithp on August 06, 2013, 03:43:00 am
Given the reactions she says she's gotten, frankly I'm impressed that she actually realizes that there is a difference.

You know, not everything has to be shoehorned into "best" or "worst."
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Art Vandelay on August 06, 2013, 03:47:14 am
When will someone change their forum title to "Transnigger"?

That's like, the best word.
I'm more of a transgoatfucker, myself.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Witchyjoshy on August 06, 2013, 03:51:23 am
When will someone change their forum title to "Transnigger"?

That's like, the best word.
I'm more of a transgoatfucker, myself.

...Must not make culturalist joke, must not make culturalist joke...
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on August 06, 2013, 10:00:37 am
^^ C'mon, you know you wanna do it.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: RavynousHunter on August 08, 2013, 09:29:39 am
Given the reactions she says she's gotten, frankly I'm impressed that she actually realizes that there is a difference.

You know, not everything has to be shoehorned into "best" or "worst."

Aye, it might be a tad misinformed, at worst, but the author does note that there are many differences between coming out as gay and telling people you don't want to have kids...if you, ya know, actually bothered to pay attention whilst reading the entire article (I even read the fuckin comments section).

Personally, I do not want to be a father.  At this point, yes, that does extend even to adoption.  I told my mother this...a year or two ago, methinks.  I was a tad scared, because I knew she was one of those that thought parenthood was a wonderful thing, but she was surprisingly cool about it.  She certainly tried to make a case for it, but she was very reasonable and even said that my reasoning behind not wanting to be a father was very sound: not wanting to give a biological child any of my family's many psychological illnesses, predispositions for cancer, and the simple fact that raising kids is a (typically) 20 year commitment and is problematic in the extreme because, eventually, you're going to have to deal with puberty.  I had enough of puberty's bullshit when I went thru it, I don't want to have to deal with it on a daily basis ever again.

That said, I've received a good bit of snark for it, too.  Basically, treating me like a child that doesn't want to eat his vegetables, and there are those who've acted like I'm nearly a family traitor.  If I want to drink Ramune, eat Hot Pockets, fuck my girlfriend, or not have kids, that's my damned choice.  You don't have to like it.  And, YES, I will eventually get married, and no, my wife will not give one single iota of a fuck that I don't want to be a father.  If its a problem for someone I'm in a relationship with...well, I'm sorry, but if its a huge issue for you, there are better men than me out there, and you're free to take your pick of them once we go our separate ways.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Flying Mint Bunny! on August 08, 2013, 09:55:31 am
Given the reactions she says she's gotten, frankly I'm impressed that she actually realizes that there is a difference.

You know, not everything has to be shoehorned into "best" or "worst."

Aye, it might be a tad misinformed, at worst, but the author does note that there are many differences between coming out as gay and telling people you don't want to have kids...if you, ya know, actually bothered to pay attention whilst reading the entire article (I even read the fuckin comments section).

Personally, I do not want to be a father.  At this point, yes, that does extend even to adoption.  I told my mother this...a year or two ago, methinks.  I was a tad scared, because I knew she was one of those that thought parenthood was a wonderful thing, but she was surprisingly cool about it.  She certainly tried to make a case for it, but she was very reasonable and even said that my reasoning behind not wanting to be a father was very sound: not wanting to give a biological child any of my family's many psychological illnesses, predispositions for cancer, and the simple fact that raising kids is a (typically) 20 year commitment and is problematic in the extreme because, eventually, you're going to have to deal with puberty.  I had enough of puberty's bullshit when I went thru it, I don't want to have to deal with it on a daily basis ever again.

That said, I've received a good bit of snark for it, too.  Basically, treating me like a child that doesn't want to eat his vegetables, and there are those who've acted like I'm nearly a family traitor.  If I want to drink Ramune, eat Hot Pockets, fuck my girlfriend, or not have kids, that's my damned choice.  You don't have to like it.  And, YES, I will eventually get married, and no, my wife will not give one single iota of a fuck that I don't want to be a father.  If its a problem for someone I'm in a relationship with...well, I'm sorry, but if its a huge issue for you, there are better men than me out there, and you're free to take your pick of them once we go our separate ways.

I told my mum that I don't want kids, but she's in complete denial. She had a dream that I was 27 and that I had two children, and she's convinced that it's actually going to happen ::)
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Auri-El on August 08, 2013, 10:04:06 am
You should come back with something like, Well, I had a dream that unicorns came to visit me, but that isn't happening.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Flying Mint Bunny! on August 08, 2013, 10:13:48 am
You should come back with something like, Well, I had a dream that unicorns came to visit me, but that isn't happening.

I don't think that would work, she would probably take that as proof of unicorns.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Auri-El on August 08, 2013, 10:24:14 am
Damn. I'm sorry. :(
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Flying Mint Bunny! on August 08, 2013, 10:40:56 am
It's not the end of the world, she's not really horrible about it. It's just slightly irritating. :D
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: RavynousHunter on August 08, 2013, 10:43:38 am
Well, at least she dreamed that you were 27 with kids, instead of 21 or so...at least that's somewhat reasonable, lol.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Sleepy on August 08, 2013, 10:45:20 am
And at least it wasn't 27 kids.

My mom will forever think I'll change my mind on kids, but I'm rather sure I won't.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: wrightway on August 08, 2013, 11:15:53 am
The most responsible thing someone who doesn't want to have kids can do is to not have kids. Children don't exactly thrive in environments where they're treated as burdens.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: ironbite on August 08, 2013, 12:10:49 pm
What about as food source?
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Flying Mint Bunny! on August 08, 2013, 12:57:32 pm
What about as food source?

Well, listen up, sonny Jim: I ate a baby. Oh, aye, Baby: the other, other white meat. Baby: it's what's for dinner.
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: RavynousHunter on August 08, 2013, 01:24:01 pm
What about as food source?

Well, listen up, sonny Jim: I ate a baby. Oh, aye, Baby: the other, other white meat. Baby: it's what's for dinner.

Why relegate baby-eating to just dinner?  They're good for any meal of the day!  After all, what makes a morning more than some eggs, thin-sliced baby bacon, and some fresh-squeezed baby's blood?  Finger-lickin good!
Title: Re: Worst of Social Justice
Post by: Thejebusfire on August 08, 2013, 01:44:29 pm
Quote
They say “you know how
boys are.” as if it mattered.
As if men just get

a free pass in life
to be as cruel as they please.
If only they knew

how I fantasize
about killing every boy
who used that excuse.

I want to put them
down like rabid dogs and hear
the