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Community => Society and History => Topic started by: Lt. Fred on October 11, 2013, 06:36:17 am

Title: #nobelprizefail
Post by: Lt. Fred on October 11, 2013, 06:36:17 am
Once again, the Nobel Prize board has covered itself in fail.

Snatching the hopes of the odds-on frontrunner out of her 16-year-old-Taliban-defying jaws, the Nobel organisation has decided to issue the award to a small, little-known anti-Chemical weapons institution. In a year where chemical weapons were repeatedly used.

Now, Malala hasn't actually achieved anything, aside from taking a bullet to the head without dying. Nor has the anti-Chemical weapons body. The role of the Nobel Prize has widely accepted as an encouragement, not as a serious merit-based recognition of achievement (though sometimes that, too). It's more than a bit heartless (and stupid) for Norway to act in this manner.
Title: Re: #nobelprizefail
Post by: kefkaownsall on October 11, 2013, 09:27:11 am
At least not Putin WTF was he nominated
Title: Re: #nobelprizefail
Post by: Art Vandelay on October 11, 2013, 09:44:26 am
Is it really necessary to use a bloody hashtag of all things as the title?!
Title: Re: #nobelprizefail
Post by: Meshakhad on October 11, 2013, 10:43:50 am
I'm disappointed, true. But then I realized that Malala's still active. As far as I can tell, there's no rule against nominating someone for a second time. So there's plenty of opportunity for her to be nominated again, and win again.

Still, FAIL.
Title: Re: #nobelprizefail
Post by: Askold on October 11, 2013, 10:50:20 am
Yeah, I think Ahtisaari was a candidate several times before getting the peace prize. (or at least he was campaigned for to get a nomination)

Is it really necessary to use a bloody hashtag of all things as the title?!

It does make it seem more childish and whiny in my opinion.
Title: Re: #nobelprizefail
Post by: Witchyjoshy on October 11, 2013, 01:59:25 pm
Is it really necessary to use a bloody hashtag of all things as the title?!

If a single symbol bothers you more than the actual contents of the post, you really need to get your priorities checked.
Title: Re: #nobelprizefail
Post by: mellenORL on October 11, 2013, 03:29:02 pm
Well, Art does have a deep and abiding hatred for all things Twitter...as do I.

I get Fred's snarkiness in using it as a signal that the topic is about "fail"...
Title: Re: #nobelprizefail
Post by: Barbarella on October 11, 2013, 03:30:49 pm
This essay has a different take on this whole thing & why the snub would be a blessing in disguise:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/oct/10/malala-yousafzai-not-win-nobel-prize
Title: Re: #nobelprizefail
Post by: Lt. Fred on October 11, 2013, 04:47:21 pm
Is it really necessary to use a bloody hashtag of all things as the title?!

Yes.
Title: Re: #nobelprizefail
Post by: Witchyjoshy on October 11, 2013, 05:40:43 pm
Well, Art does have a deep and abiding hatred for all things Twitter...as do I.

And yet my point still stands.
Title: Re: #nobelprizefail
Post by: kefkaownsall on October 11, 2013, 05:43:10 pm
Not sure if I agree with the guardian since she could then use the prize to raise money that and getting the prize means that Obama and Cameron have to listen to her (she is trying to get the US and UK to negotiate with the Taliban)
Title: Re: #nobelprizefail
Post by: ironbite on October 11, 2013, 06:13:57 pm
Why would she, a 15 year old girl who's biggest accomplishment was shifting her brain matter out of the way, cause the world's biggest political leaders to start negotiations with the fucking Taliban?

Ironbite-I agree she's brave and all but all she did was pull a Lincoln and survive
Title: Re: #nobelprizefail
Post by: Art Vandelay on October 11, 2013, 06:22:28 pm
Well, Art does have a deep and abiding hatred for all things Twitter...as do I.

And yet my point still stands.

Using hashtags outside of Twitter is right up there with using "swag" or "YOLO" unironically.
Title: Re: #nobelprizefail
Post by: Witchyjoshy on October 11, 2013, 06:52:37 pm
Well, Art does have a deep and abiding hatred for all things Twitter...as do I.

And yet my point still stands.

Using hashtags outside of Twitter is right up there with using "swag" or "YOLO" unironically.

And yet my point still stands.
Title: Re: #nobelprizefail
Post by: Sigmaleph on October 11, 2013, 11:11:34 pm
Why would she, a 15 year old girl who's biggest accomplishment was shifting her brain matter out of the way, cause the world's biggest political leaders to start negotiations with the fucking Taliban?

Ironbite-I agree she's brave and all but all she did was pull a Lincoln and survive

The assassination attempt made her more famous, but her actual accomplishments are everything that caused the Taliban to want to kill her.
Title: Re: #nobelprizefail
Post by: Alehksunos on October 11, 2013, 11:22:58 pm
If you want to know why I hate overly religious people, it would be because they are intolerant to any form of criticism. And because Malala criticized the Taliban and their rigidity and self-righteousness that rivals big-name radical Christian organizations of the United States they wanted her dead. Because the Taliban opposed education for non-males, Malala criticized the Taliban. And because these bastards are so sensitive to criticism and look at it as some person attack and an attack on Allah, I hate them.

But once more, we have to wrestle with not radical Islam here in the United States, we have to wrestle radical Christianity and their obliviousness towards the First Amendment and the Treaty of Tripoli. Groups like the American Family Association, the Family Research Council, whatever organizations listed as "Hate Groups" by the Southern Poverty Law Center. And that is why I fear radical Christians more than radical Muslims, because they are the most close to home. God forbid, if you live in a state like Texas were homophobia and misogyny is institutionalized, like me.
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Post by: kefkaownsall on October 11, 2013, 11:32:12 pm
Honestly the peace prize is weird like your influence is supposed to be great but like Tutu says Israel is committing the same thing he fought in South Africa with no dice
Title: Re: #nobelprizefail
Post by: niam2023 on October 12, 2013, 03:09:59 am
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Using hashtags outside of Twitter is right up there with using "swag" or "YOLO" unironically.

Malala got mad swag yo.

YOLO, so she lives TO THE EXTREME.

But, seriously, even though she lost the nobel prize, that doesn't mean she's done. She is going to keep going for what she believes in.

Title: Re: #nobelprizefail
Post by: Askold on October 12, 2013, 07:36:42 am
Malala is off to a good start, though perhaps not enough to earn the Nobel peace prize YET and if she continues her work I have no doubts about her getting nominated again. The anti-chemical-weapons organisation is doing a good work and have deserved the prize for their work and as their representatives said this recognition will help them continue their work due to increased publisity.
Title: Re: #nobelprizefail
Post by: mellenORL on October 12, 2013, 11:09:33 am
Winning a Nobel for Malala would be very much deserved, but would also inflame even more hatred and attempted violence against her by the Taliban. "Uppity female".

She has shown amazing potential for leadership now, and on into the future. She's gotta stay alive to accomplish that.

Title: Re: #nobelprizefail
Post by: Ironchew on October 12, 2013, 01:22:04 pm
The only Nobel prizes that matter are the ones for Physics and Chemistry. Obama won the Peace prize, just to put it in perspective.
Title: Re: #nobelprizefail
Post by: ironbite on October 12, 2013, 03:23:30 pm
How does that put anything in perspective?
Title: Re: #nobelprizefail
Post by: Ironchew on October 12, 2013, 03:40:30 pm
The man who heads the U.S. conflict in Afghanistan and personally orders the assassination of so-called insurgents (some of them were U.S. citizens, most if not all were no threat to the U.S.) using drone strikes that kill others in the vicinity (conveniently labeled as insurgents by the White House) got a Nobel Peace prize. The dissonance is outrageous.