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Community => Religion and Philosophy => Topic started by: Ultimate Paragon on February 16, 2014, 11:38:57 pm
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http://news.msn.com/us/snake-handling-pastor-refuses-care-dies-from-bite
Jamie Coots, a snake-handling Kentucky pastor who appeared on the National Geographic television reality show "Snake Salvation," died Saturday after being bitten by a snake.
Coots was handling a rattlesnake during a Saturday night service at his Full Gospel Tabernacle in Jesus Name Church in Middlesboro when he was bit, another preacher, Cody Winn, told WBIR-TV.
"Jamie went across the floor. He had one of the rattlers in his hand, he came over and he was standing beside me. It was plain view, it just turned its head and bit him in the back of the hand ... within a second," Winn said.
When an ambulance arrived at the church at 8:30 p.m., they were told Coots had gone home, the Middlesboro Police Department said in a news release. Contacted at his house, Coots refused medical treatment.
Emergency workers left about 9:10 p.m. When they returned about an hour later, Coots was dead from a venomous snake bite, police said.
You know, the Bible says not to test God. Funny how so many of these crackpots forget something so basic.
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So he refused medical treatment believing god wouldn't let him die and died an hour later?
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I don't think this person was a Christian Scientist, but this is the reason why I hate them.
"Oh, I won't die, God will save my life." Yeah...
Also the name of that church makes me think of how creatively insipid most Christians are (Doug TenNapel notwithstanding).
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I kinda feel bad for this guy, I gotta say.
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I really hope this makes it on the Darwin Awards.
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I really hope this makes it on the Darwin Awards.
Can't imagine why he wouldn't, unless he already reproduced.
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I really hope this makes it on the Darwin Awards.
Can't imagine why he wouldn't, unless he already reproduced.
The article says he has a son.
I feel the worst for the animals that are stressed into biting during this shit. The fact that he says that they'd keep doing it until "either rattlesnakes or snake handlers are extinct" tells you all you need to know about these people; if these animals ever became critically endangered, they'd be right up there with the guys who poach tigers to grind up their bones into 'traditional medicines'. Except where tiger poachers are treated with disgust and their belief in these medicines as superstition, poaching rattlesnakes would probably be met with a shrug and "but it's a really important religious ceremony for these people" and, you know, religious freedom and all that. I wonder if they'd be made to face regulations similar to what Native Americans have to go through to obtain eagle feathers for their religious ceremonies.
Also, I wonder what'll happen to his snakes, especially the one that bit him.
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And the next winner of the Darwin Award . . .
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I kinda feel bad for this guy, I gotta say.
I feel bad for the snake.
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This is pretty funny, actually.
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I really hope this makes it on the Darwin Awards.
Can't imagine why he wouldn't, unless he already reproduced.
The article says he has a son.
That doesn't disqualify you from winning one.
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In their minds, they are not tempting God, they are doing as the Bible says and demonstrating their faith due to one verse...Mark 16:18 - They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
That he died won't have an effect on them as far as handling snakes in the future. Although this buffoon was their pastor, he died simply because, well, he just didn't have enough faith.
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Excuse me while I channel a little rage... I feel worse for the poor snakes than the fucking dumbass who risks death for their religious bullshit. I seriously don't get how people can let religion override the basic instinct of self-fucking-perservation. The million year-old instinct that tells you "This thing bit Ogg and Ogg died shortly thereafter. MAYBE I SHOULDN'T FUCK WITH IT AND LEAVE IT ALONE." Steve Irwin handled snakes and wrestled crocodiles to help preserve their species and take them out of harm's way. These douchebags just frighten clearly lethally-venomous critters because their book, written by a bunch of Bronze Age goat-herders, told them that handling lethal, venomous snakes was a good idea...a people that thought such wonderful things like bloodletting were a smart thing to do.
Seriously, put down the snake, let it go back to wherever it lived before you scooped the poor thing up, and pick up something a smidge less dangerous, like a god damned tambourine! If their idiocy drives a species to extinction, well...I hope the US government deems them a dangerous fucking cult, just like the Branch Davidian and Heaven's Gate, and kicks them in the collective dick. Hell, I bet the only reason they aren't on a watchlist of some sort is because they aren't stockpiling guns and ammo en masse and letting their pastors fuck their daughters because its "god's will."
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Snake Handlers should have a photo in a dictionary next to the word, Dumbass.
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In their minds, they are not tempting God, they are doing as the Bible says and demonstrating their faith due to one verse...Mark 16:18 - They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
That he died won't have an effect on them as far as handling snakes in the future. Although this buffoon was their pastor, he died simply because, well, he just didn't have enough faith.
Makes me wonder why they don't just drink bleach to prove their faith instead of dicking around with the snakes.
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Because bleach is dangerous!
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Hey, I've handled snakes before without being harmed! OK, it was my high-school science teacher's pet Eastern King Snake (lampropeltis getula), but Elvis was a snake nonetheless! In fact, he seemed quite friendly.
But in all seriousness, you have to be a special kind of stupid to think that faith gives you a licence to handle venomous reptiles. Jesus is probably facepalming right now.
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"And then the Lord said unto ... Whoopsie!"
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Because bleach is dangerous!
Actually, it's probably because it's poor showmanship. Anybody can drink something that may or may not be bleach out of a Clorox bottle, but rattlesnakes are cool and exciting!
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In their minds, they are not tempting God, they are doing as the Bible says and demonstrating their faith due to one verse...Mark 16:18 - They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
That he died won't have an effect on them as far as handling snakes in the future. Although this buffoon was their pastor, he died simply because, well, he just didn't have enough faith.
Makes me wonder why they don't just drink bleach to prove their faith instead of dicking around with the snakes.
There are some of these morons that do drink deadly poison to prove their faith. As you can imagine, the results are not positive.
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Something I was wondering, is it possible to build a resistance, if not immunity, to snake venom or poisons and such in general?
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Something I was wondering, is it possible to build a resistance, if not immunity, to snake venom or poisons and such in general?
It's possible to build up a resistance, but probably not complete immunity.
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Something I was wondering, is it possible to build a resistance, if not immunity, to snake venom or poisons and such in general?
It's possible to build up a resistance, but probably not complete immunity.
That's... actually true. But you gotta be amazingly careful with it and as far as what I've read (years ago, now), it takes a damned long time for your body to be able to adapt to even a tiny amount.
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Something I was wondering, is it possible to build a resistance, if not immunity, to snake venom or poisons and such in general?
It's possible to build up a resistance, but probably not complete immunity.
That's... actually true. But you gotta be amazingly careful with it and as far as what I've read (years ago, now), it takes a damned long time for your body to be able to adapt to even a tiny amount.
A few years if you're building up an immunity to iocane powder, last I heard. Granted, the fellow I heard it from was dressed all in black and wearing a mask and offered me a glass of wine, so he might not have been quite on the level.
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Hey, I've handled snakes before without being harmed! OK, it was my high-school science teacher's pet Eastern King Snake (lampropeltis getula), but Elvis was a snake nonetheless! In fact, he seemed quite friendly.
But in all seriousness, you have to be a special kind of stupid to think that faith gives you a licence to handle venomous reptiles. Jesus is probably facepalming right now.
I handle venomous (mortal even!) snakes regularly... Though only with a single species that I know very well, and doesn't attack humans when on the ground (they are very shy on the ground, since they only come up there to mate and sleep, they never attack there except if you step on them. In the water, it's a different matter).
I've even got a pic of nine-year old me wearing a live one as a necklace.
Though if you do it with another dangerous species, and no formal training, I'll call you an idiot.
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You got more guts than I do. The only snake I handle is my brother's humongous garter snake, and even then I'm extremely careful. Although I will say that's more for his protection than mine - if he bites me and I jerk away, he could get seriously injured.
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You got more guts than I do. The only snake I handle is my brother's humongous garter snake, and even then I'm extremely careful. Although I will say that's more for his protection than mine - if he bites me and I jerk away, he could get seriously injured.
...Is "Garter snake" a real species? I thought it was just an euphenism. But then again, my mind is in the gutter so what would I know.
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I almost wish it were a euphemism, if only because that would make Saving's post infinitely more amusing.
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Garter_Snake (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Garter_Snake)
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Yeah, I got it mixed up with trouser snake.
My bad.
And on the actual topic: This whole tradition is kinda silly since as was commented before, bible specifically mentions not to test God for silly reasons like this. Then again, this is not certainly the first or the last time christians act like they haven't even read that book.
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Since when is it an act? I wouldn't be surprised if it were a fact that most don't bother and just ape whatever their pastors tell 'em.
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........ Bwahahahahahahahaaaaaa!
i just feel sorry for that poor snake.