More abuse in the NFL

[Ultimate Paragon]

http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/13/justice/nfl-vikings-adrian-peterson/

(CNN) -- NFL star Adrian Peterson turned himself in to authorities early Saturday in east Texas, one day after news broke that Peterson had in the local prosecutor's view hurt his child "with criminal negligence or recklessly" under the guise of discipline.

Shortly after reporting to authorities, Peterson posted $15,000 bail and was released, according to the Montgomery County Sheriff's Office.

That $15,000 likely won't make much of a dent on Peterson's checkbook. He agreed to a lucrative contract in 2011 with the Minnesota Vikings, which numerous publications, including NFL.com, reported would be worth $100 million (including $36 million guaranteed) over a 7-year period.

Still, the charge he faces has already impacted Peterson negatively: He won't play Sunday, at least, after the Vikings deactivated him for their game with the New England Patriots. And the NFL said it was reviewing the incident under league's personal conduct policy.

Peterson hasn't spoken publicly since a grand jury indicted him on a felony charge of child abuse. But his lawyer has, saying that Peterson used "a switch to spank his son" in doling out discipline much like "he experienced as a child growing up in East Texas."

"(Peterson) will continue to insist on his innocence of any intended wrongdoing," the attorney, Rusty Hardin, said Friday.

On Saturday, Montgomery County Assistant District Attorney Phil Grant -- whose office made the case against Peterson to the grand jury over a period of weeks -- said prosecutors "will take this charge extremely seriously and we look forward to presenting this case to a jury."

According to Texas law, a person can be convicted of injury to a child if they are proven to have caused bodily or mental injury "intentionally, knowingly, recklessly or with criminal negligence" or causing such harm by omission. The crime is punishable by up to two years in a state jail and a $1,000 fine.

In Texas, someone can defend himself against a charge of injury to a child if they can prove it happened while they were administering "reasonable discipline," Grant said.

But that's not what prosecutors think happened in Peterson's case.

"Obviously, parents are entitled to discipline their children as they see fit, except for when that discipline exceeds what the community would say is reasonable," the district attorney said. "And so, a grand jury, having indicted this case, looked at the injuries that were inflicted upon this child and determined that that discipline was not reasonable."

Am I the only one afraid that one of these guys is going to pull a Chris Benoit?

[Kat S.]

Sadly, that has already happened, UP.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/chiefs/2012/12/01/kansas-city-chiefs-player-shot-suicide-arrowhead/1738971/

There are too many NFL players with violent felony level criminal records still in the NFL.  People really need to stop thinking how a player getting into trouble will "affect the team's season", and really hold the people in the NFL to a higher standard of off-the-field conduct.  I think that is the reason as to why people permit football players to continue to play when they do things like that.

Here is a list, although probably not a complete one, of the arrests of NFL players:

http://www.utsandiego.com/nfl/arrests-database/

[Ultimate Paragon]

Sadly, that has already happened, UP.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/chiefs/2012/12/01/kansas-city-chiefs-player-shot-suicide-arrowhead/1738971/

There are too many NFL players with violent felony level criminal records still in the NFL.  People really need to stop thinking how a player getting into trouble will "affect the team's season", and really hold the people in the NFL to a higher standard of off-the-field conduct.  I think that is the reason as to why people permit football players to continue to play when they do things like that.

Here is a list, although probably not a complete one, of the arrests of NFL players:

http://www.utsandiego.com/nfl/arrests-database/

Oh man, I forgot about that.  What a tragedy.

And wow.  That's a lot of arrests.

[Barbarella]

Sadly, that has already happened, UP.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/chiefs/2012/12/01/kansas-city-chiefs-player-shot-suicide-arrowhead/1738971/

There are too many NFL players with violent felony level criminal records still in the NFL.  People really need to stop thinking how a player getting into trouble will "affect the team's season", and really hold the people in the NFL to a higher standard of off-the-field conduct.  I think that is the reason as to why people permit football players to continue to play when they do things like that.

Here is a list, although probably not a complete one, of the arrests of NFL players:

http://www.utsandiego.com/nfl/arrests-database/

Oh man, I forgot about that.  What a tragedy.

And wow.  That's a lot of arrests.

And several of these guys are repeat offenders. What a bunch of hulking oafish troglodyte meatheads!

[dpareja]

Remember, if three NFL players are in a car together, the driver is a police officer.

[mythbuster43]

http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/13/justice/nfl-vikings-adrian-peterson/

(CNN) -- NFL star Adrian Peterson turned himself in to authorities early Saturday in east Texas, one day after news broke that Peterson had in the local prosecutor's view hurt his child "with criminal negligence or recklessly" under the guise of discipline.

Shortly after reporting to authorities, Peterson posted $15,000 bail and was released, according to the Montgomery County Sheriff's Office.

That $15,000 likely won't make much of a dent on Peterson's checkbook. He agreed to a lucrative contract in 2011 with the Minnesota Vikings, which numerous publications, including NFL.com, reported would be worth $100 million (including $36 million guaranteed) over a 7-year period.

Still, the charge he faces has already impacted Peterson negatively: He won't play Sunday, at least, after the Vikings deactivated him for their game with the New England Patriots. And the NFL said it was reviewing the incident under league's personal conduct policy.

Peterson hasn't spoken publicly since a grand jury indicted him on a felony charge of child abuse. But his lawyer has, saying that Peterson used "a switch to spank his son" in doling out discipline much like "he experienced as a child growing up in East Texas."

"(Peterson) will continue to insist on his innocence of any intended wrongdoing," the attorney, Rusty Hardin, said Friday.

On Saturday, Montgomery County Assistant District Attorney Phil Grant -- whose office made the case against Peterson to the grand jury over a period of weeks -- said prosecutors "will take this charge extremely seriously and we look forward to presenting this case to a jury."

According to Texas law, a person can be convicted of injury to a child if they are proven to have caused bodily or mental injury "intentionally, knowingly, recklessly or with criminal negligence" or causing such harm by omission. The crime is punishable by up to two years in a state jail and a $1,000 fine.

In Texas, someone can defend himself against a charge of injury to a child if they can prove it happened while they were administering "reasonable discipline," Grant said.

But that's not what prosecutors think happened in Peterson's case.

"Obviously, parents are entitled to discipline their children as they see fit, except for when that discipline exceeds what the community would say is reasonable," the district attorney said. "And so, a grand jury, having indicted this case, looked at the injuries that were inflicted upon this child and determined that that discipline was not reasonable."

Am I the only one afraid that one of these guys is going to pull a Chris Benoit?

What is it with rich celebrities getting ridiculously lenient bails that they could easily pay in the blink of an eye?

[dpareja]

What is it with rich celebrities getting ridiculously lenient bails that they could easily pay in the blink of an eye?

Because if they got properly-set bail, people (possibly the celebrities themselves) who don't understand how bail is supposed to work would scream about how they aren't being treated equally.

[Ultimate Paragon]

Why are so many NFL players so violent?  Is it brain damage?

[Witchyjoshy]

Why are so many NFL players so violent?  Is it brain damage?

Entitlement.

[Canadian Mojo]

Why are so many NFL players so violent?  Is it brain damage?

Entitlement.

Seriously. In a nutshell. This.

Look at all the stories about how the jocks are treated in high school and college and remember that the NFLers are the creme of the crop that actually make the big bucks for people. An entire lifetime of being told you can get away with anything isn't going to end well.

[Kat S.]

What is it with rich celebrities getting ridiculously lenient bails that they could easily pay in the blink of an eye?

Because if they got properly-set bail, people (possibly the celebrities themselves) who don't understand how bail is supposed to work would scream about how they aren't being treated equally.

This and most NFL players are able hire a great if not top tier lawyer to be their legal representation in court.

Why are so many NFL players so violent?  Is it brain damage?

Entitlement.

Seriously. In a nutshell. This.

Look at all the stories about how the jocks are treated in high school and college and remember that the NFLers are the creme of the crop that actually make the big bucks for people. An entire lifetime of being told you can get away with anything isn't going to end well.

The poetic justice that goes with players like that is the fact that an NFL career lasts usually 3 to 4 seasons for typical players because playing football is so taxing on the body, and the NFL gets a new talent pool coming in every year.  Being a "problem child" to the team can also help shorten a player's career.  Better or more popular players can play for about 5 to 8 seasons.  Only exceptionally gifted players and/or players who miraculously haven't gotten seriously injured last 10 or a few more seasons.

Once those people stop playing for the NFL, the lucrative paychecks stop as well.  It isn't uncommon for many NFL athletes, regardless of how many seasons they have played, to go broke.  A quick Google search will show you numerous stories and sad statistics about how many players go broke and why.  Heck, it isn't unheard of that broke NFL players will sell their Superbowl ring because they're in debt.

[dpareja]

The poetic justice that goes with players like that is the fact that an NFL career lasts usually 3 to 4 seasons for typical players because playing football is so taxing on the body, and the NFL gets a new talent pool coming in every year.  Being a "problem child" to the team can also help shorten a player's career.  Better or more popular players can play for about 5 to 8 seasons.  Only exceptionally gifted players and/or players who miraculously haven't gotten seriously injured last 10 or a few more seasons.

Once those people stop playing for the NFL, the lucrative paychecks stop as well.  It isn't uncommon for many NFL athletes, regardless of how many seasons they have played, to go broke.  A quick Google search will show you numerous stories and sad statistics about how many players go broke and why.  Heck, it isn't unheard of that broke NFL players will sell their Superbowl ring because they're in debt.

If you really want to last a long time in the NFL, be a kicker. There's harsh penalties for touching them so the really good ones often keep going into their late forties.

[mythbuster43]

Why are so many NFL players so violent?  Is it brain damage?

Entitlement.

That and the fact that they have many apologists that will try to excuse their actions no matter what.

Examples:
"Oh, that's just how he was raised."
"Hey, he was under a lot of stress, how would you react?"

So...if a person was raised a particular way and/or if he's under a lot of stress, it's okay for him to beat his wife, girlfriend, or children? Flawless logic right there.

[Barbarella]

Soooooo....Basically the NFL is made up of guys like this erudite Rhodes Scholar....

....Eeyup! Pretty much.