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#Shirtstorm
« on: November 16, 2014, 11:36:48 am »
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/11232986/Matt-Taylors-sexist-shirt-and-the-day-political-correctness-officially-went-mad.html


We landed on a god damn comet for the first time in human history and idiot radfems bitch about a guy’s shirt.  Right, how are we supposed to take these so-called “feminists” seriously if they rant about a guy’s shirt more than a successful scientific milestone?
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Re: #Shirtstorm
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2014, 12:06:53 pm »
Social justice is whipping up an outrageous scandal and nobody shows up for it.

All I see here is slacktivists with nothing better to do than trying to attach themselves to a monumental achievement for the sake of disparaging themenz. Nothing better to do than make someone cry during what should be one of the greatest days of his life.
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Re: #Shirtstorm
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2014, 12:27:54 pm »
I was hoping the phrase "political correctness gone mad" would show up. Thanks, Telegraph.
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Re: #Shirtstorm
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2014, 01:12:52 pm »
...Is it bad I want one of those shirts?

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« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2014, 01:18:37 pm »
Really, they (Third Wavers as a whole ) are starting to act just like conservatives and Communist Russia in their puritan sexual morals. And now, I need to cart my wheelbarrow full of fresh meat back into the bunker and watch the bombs fall.

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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2014, 01:42:24 pm »
Really, they (American culture as a whole ) have always been acting just like Americans in their puritan sexual morals.

FTFY. Second-wave feminists if anything were against the stringent Puritan sexual codes that were mainly embraced by the first-wavers, but anti-feminists enjoy disparaging them as ugly women who need feminism to emasculate men.

Second-wave feminism was a more diverse group than you give them credit for.

EDIT: I meant second wave feminism, which raises another question, Madman. What exactly do you find objectionable in third-wave feminism without having to dredge up the fringes?
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« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2014, 03:20:54 pm »
Isn't third-wave feminism the one that you commonly see on Tumblr, the "yes all women, poisoned M&Ms, all men are rapists, kill all men, trans men are evil gender traitors" type?
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« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2014, 03:23:41 pm »
Isn't third-wave feminism the one that you commonly see on Tumblr, the "yes all women, poisoned M&Ms, all men are rapists, kill all men, trans men are evil gender traitors" type?

Well, those people tend to be third-wave feminists, but not all third-wave feminists are like that.

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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2014, 03:24:58 pm »
I'm just saying, when I hear "third-wave feminism", that's what I think of. And second-wave was the 1970's stuff, which varied from "make birth control affordable" to "outlaw porn".

First-wave was the voting stuff and legal rights stuff. I think.
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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2014, 03:40:57 pm »
I'm just saying, when I hear "third-wave feminism", that's what I think of. And second-wave was the 1970's stuff, which varied from "make birth control affordable" to "outlaw porn".

First-wave was the voting stuff and legal rights stuff. I think.

First-wave feminism made a tactical decision to elevate women from the depictions at the time of base sex-obsessed machines to very pure, very Puritan beings that could be trusted to vote. It worked in the sense that they got womens' suffrage, but it also saddled American culture with even more Puritan bullshit (e.g. the ingénue, Prohibition, outlaw porn, etc.) that later waves of feminism rebelled against.

Feminism is a big enough movement now that they get all sorts; I know the Tumblrinas are somewhere in there, but they're on the fringe of the movement.
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Re: #Shirtstorm
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2014, 12:21:37 am »
Er, didn't this guy choose to apologize? I see no evidence that his job was at risk or he was at risk, just that people complained about a tacky shirt and he said sorry for it.

Isn't rushing to defend him sort of the essence of white knighting? The act of defending someone while simultaneously denying them agency.

He could have just as easily told them to stick their criticism up their fundament, he didn't-he said sorry. His decision, not anyone elses.

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« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2014, 03:32:33 am »
What if he wore an anti-semitic shirt? Would it have been legitimate to be angry about that? Or is there some bubble in time that prevents discussion of that, also?
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« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2014, 04:08:47 am »
I think that wearing anti-semitic shirt would have been different than a shirt with "sexy women."
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« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2014, 07:50:18 am »
What if he wore an anti-semitic shirt? Would it have been legitimate to be angry about that? Or is there some bubble in time that prevents discussion of that, also?

Apples and potatoes.  Dude's wearing a shirt with depictions of women he finds attractive, not a shirt with a massive swastika on it or one covered in A. Wyatt Mann comics.  There's a rather VAST distance between the two that makes the Grand Canyon look like a pig wallow.
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Re: #Shirtstorm
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2014, 11:50:18 am »
I'm just saying, when I hear "third-wave feminism", that's what I think of. And second-wave was the 1970's stuff, which varied from "make birth control affordable" to "outlaw porn".

First-wave was the voting stuff and legal rights stuff. I think.

First-wave feminism made a tactical decision to elevate women from the depictions at the time of base sex-obsessed machines to very pure, very Puritan beings that could be trusted to vote. It worked in the sense that they got womens' suffrage, but it also saddled American culture with even more Puritan bullshit (e.g. the ingénue, Prohibition, outlaw porn, etc.) that later waves of feminism rebelled against.

Feminism is a big enough movement now that they get all sorts; I know the Tumblrinas are somewhere in there, but they're on the fringe of the movement.

Indeed, there's a lot of diversity of belief in feminism.  The fact that so many of them can have such radically different opinions about a monologue in a book is testament to that.

What if he wore an anti-semitic shirt? Would it have been legitimate to be angry about that? Or is there some bubble in time that prevents discussion of that, also?

Apples and potatoes.  Dude's wearing a shirt with depictions of women he finds attractive, not a shirt with a massive swastika on it or one covered in A. Wyatt Mann comics.  There's a rather VAST distance between the two that makes the Grand Canyon look like a pig wallow.

I didn't see any misogynistic slogans or anything on that shirt.

And besides, it was a gift from a female friend of his.  A gift she made herself.