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Politics and Government / Re: Sex Crime Allegations Against Roy Moore
« Last post by Id82 on Today at 01:38:50 pm »
Apparently Trump and Bannon are telling him to concede.
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Society and History / Re: 4Chan's "it's okay to be white" campaign
« Last post by SCarpelan on Today at 01:02:31 pm »
If it's not referring to white people as a race, then why use the term "whiteness?" I'm sure there are plenty of terms they could've used that aren't as loaded. Maybe I'm just being ignorant, but surely they could've called it something like "root racism." Could you imagine if they called it "Jewishness?"

Because the concept of whiteness is in the center of the system that created the modern social concept of race and the racial discrimination? Equating the terms "whiteness" and "Jewishness" makes it clear you are too ignorant or stupid to understand the nuances of historical context when it comes to meanings behind words and the messages they convey.

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And I love how you singled out the most controversial examples cited and wrote off the entire article because of them. Tell me, why didn't you mention the "Your DNA is an Abomination" article? It's only the example that starts the article.

Because even the linked article that criticizes it from a tactical point of view admits that it was a deliberate provocation and the minority students used it to call attention to the racial slurs they encounter all the time. I'm sure you are furious that white people aren't able to use this kind of provocation and think it's racist against us. Bo-fucking-hoo.

P.S. If it was someone else I might actually bother to have a proper discussion or debate about the nuances involved here. The only reason I made these posts is that I've recently had a couple of discussions about these issues and even this superficial commentary allowed me to get rid of some things that stuck in my mind to bother me.
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Society and History / Re: 4Chan's "it's okay to be white" campaign
« Last post by Lana Reverse on Today at 12:04:35 pm »
You sited these articles as examples in response to the claim that "Nobody says it's not okay to be white".  If you don't think they should be assumed to be dead serious, then my original point still stands.

If you have reason to believe the rustle in the grass is just the wind, then it's fine to assume so.  It's if you can't tell the difference, and there are plenty of people on 4chan who are in fact actual Nazis.  And the "Ironic" racism creates an environment that lets them flourish.

>We should assume these imageboard posts are 100% sincere
>Let's not jump to conclusions about these articles, they might be satirical


Pick one.

And if you're concerned about racism flourishing, then I'd say some posts on 4chan should be the least of your worries. Tell me, do you agree with the notion that Islamophobia pushes Muslims into the arms of the jihadis?

Oh, and if you think ironic racism on /pol/ helps real Nazis, then wouldn't the same be true regarding anti-white racists if these articles are satirical? Don't blame me, I'm only playing by your own rules.
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Politics and Government / Re: Sex Crime Allegations Against Roy Moore
« Last post by dpareja on Today at 11:57:17 am »
Here's the thing.  He doesn't get an automatic recount as that's the only way he'd be able to get in.  Cause recounts.  With the margin being more then .5%, he'll have to pay for the recount with his own money.

Ironbite-and the deadline for that is fast approching.

We'll see if he files for a recount, but I bet the RNC and NRSC will foot the bill if he does.
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Society and History / Re: 4Chan's "it's okay to be white" campaign
« Last post by Skybison on Today at 11:16:36 am »
You sited these articles as examples in response to the claim that "Nobody says it's not okay to be white".  If you don't think they should be assumed to be dead serious, then my original point still stands. 

If you have reason to believe the rustle in the grass is just the wind, then it's fine to assume so.  It's if you can't tell the difference, and there are plenty of people on 4chan who are in fact actual Nazis.  And the "Ironic" racism creates an environment that lets them flourish. 
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Society and History / Re: 4Chan's "it's okay to be white" campaign
« Last post by Lana Reverse on Today at 10:26:12 am »
Allow me to help you with that, as an NYT subscriber.

https://pastebin.com/WAC3UAXM

The link is a transcript of the article, set to expire in one week and unlisted, to ensure that I don't hurt the newspaper's income in any way.

Oh my fucking non-existent god most of that article is so awful it hurts. People are supposed to have sympathy for Murdoch for him losing one of his mansions in the California fires or treat McCain's offensive politics with silk gloves? Hate of whiteness "as a system" is implied to be offensive and racist? (The concept and system of "whiteness" is the base for separating races and modern racism, it is not referring to the white people as a race.)

If it's not referring to white people as a race, then why use the term "whiteness?" I'm sure there are plenty of terms they could've used that aren't as loaded. Maybe I'm just being ignorant, but surely they could've called it something like "root racism." Could you imagine if they called it "Jewishness?"

And I love how you singled out the most controversial examples cited and wrote off the entire article because of them. Tell me, why didn't you mention the "Your DNA is an Abomination" article? It's only the example that starts the article.

https://thoughtcatalog.com/emily-goldstein/2015/05/get-rid-of-white-people/

Really? I hope that this is one of those moments where you didn't read your own links. "Emily Goldstein" calling for white genocide? The troll is so obvious that one of the first Google results for the name is an anti-semitic blog calling them out for doing harm to anti-semitic conspiracy theories.

I was hoping somebody would catch that. Thank you for pointing out that "assume they're being serious" isn't always the best course of action.

A lot of this seems like nutpicking, just because some of the most extreme outliers of people who talk about Black Pride, like the ones mentioned in the NYT piece, are raving loonies who call whites abominations doesn't discredit the idea of Black Pride per se-nor does it alter the fact that in the "anglosphere", whites are socially and economically on top and generally know who their ancestors were so don't have to fall back on skin color.

Way back in the day Run DMC used to rap about being proud to be black, if they thought white people were abominations what the hell were they doing performing with Aerosmith?

Who said anything about black pride? I'm talking about anti-white racism. And yes, it's generally white people who make up the social and economic elite in the Anglosphere, but that doesn't mean we should assume all white people have it easy. Rural people are more likely to be white, and the current economic problems hit them especially hard.

And where were your complaints about nutpicking when Askold posted the racist responses to the post that began the campaign?

But I'm sure you think I should assume they are serious.  That I should assume the Affinity writer genuinely wants to ban white men from voting and thought catalog girl really wants to be murdered.  So why?  Why should I assume they are serious but the guy claiming to be a nazi isn't?  What's the difference?

Who said anything about assuming the self-proclaimed white supremacist is a troll? I merely said that on a website where no accounts exist and trolls make up a lot of the userbase, there's always the possibility that they're just being ironic. And yes, it is possible that the Affinity article was intended as satire. But hey, I'm not the one who said we should assume every rustle in the grass is a tiger, just to be on the safe side.
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Politics and Government / Re: Sex Crime Allegations Against Roy Moore
« Last post by ironbite on Today at 10:16:34 am »
Here's the thing.  He doesn't get an automatic recount as that's the only way he'd be able to get in.  Cause recounts.  With the margin being more then .5%, he'll have to pay for the recount with his own money.

Ironbite-and the deadline for that is fast approching.
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The Lounge / Re: Random Thoughts Thread
« Last post by RavynousHunter on Today at 08:28:47 am »
I just thought of the most epic crossover game ever.  Doom + Wolfenstein + Serious Sam + Duke Nukem.  Blazco gunning down the hordes of Hell, Doomslayer ripping Nazis in half with his bare hands, all while Duke and Sam take turns spouting one-liners and taking down every alien in their path.  Bonus points if the hypothetical maker could find a way to end up revealing to Blazco that Doomslayer is his descendant.

"Come get some, you Nazi motherfuckers!"
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A lot of this seems like nutpicking, just because some of the most extreme outliers of people who talk about Black Pride, like the ones mentioned in the NYT piece, are raving loonies who call whites abominations doesn't discredit the idea of Black Pride per se-nor does it alter the fact that in the "anglosphere", whites are socially and economically on top and generally know who their ancestors were so don't have to fall back on skin color.

Way back in the day Run DMC used to rap about being proud to be black, if they thought white people were abominations what the hell were they doing performing with Aerosmith?
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Society and History / Re: 4Chan's "it's okay to be white" campaign
« Last post by SCarpelan on Today at 04:48:42 am »
Allow me to help you with that, as an NYT subscriber.

https://pastebin.com/WAC3UAXM

The link is a transcript of the article, set to expire in one week and unlisted, to ensure that I don't hurt the newspaper's income in any way.

Oh my fucking non-existent god most of that article is so awful it hurts. People are supposed to have sympathy for Murdoch for him losing one of his mansions in the California fires or treat McCain's offensive politics with silk gloves? Hate of whiteness "as a system" is implied to be offensive and racist? (The concept and system of "whiteness" is the base for separating races and modern racism, it is not referring to the white people as a race.)

https://thoughtcatalog.com/emily-goldstein/2015/05/get-rid-of-white-people/

Really? I hope that this is one of those moments where you didn't read your own links. "Emily Goldstein" calling for white genocide? The troll is so obvious that one of the first Google results for the name is an anti-semitic blog calling them out for doing harm to anti-semitic conspiracy theories.
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