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Ultimate Paragon vs. Antitheism: Round 2
Art Vandelay:
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--- Quote from: Art Vandelay on July 04, 2016, 09:11:34 pm ---Personally, I'd rather they not be forced to accommodate gay people. The more people that Christians (and every other religion for that matter) alienate, the better.
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Ah, beating the "religion is evil" drum again? I could explain why that's a ludicrously simplistic viewpoint, but you'd probably just plug your ears.
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Not "evil", but it is an inherently bad thing.
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How so?
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Because it's a worldview that's based solely on blind faith for the sake of blind faith. That's the problem. It not only makes massive claims about everything from the origin of the universe to how you should behave in your day to day life based on nothing of any sort of substance, but it also fosters a culture where beliefs based on blind faith rather than critical thinking and evidence is something that should be not just respected, but even admired. Ergo, religion is indeed a bad thing, and humanity as a whole would indeed be better off without it.
Ultimate Paragon:
--- Quote from: Art Vandelay on July 04, 2016, 09:43:02 pm ---
--- Quote from: Ultimate Paragon on July 04, 2016, 09:34:42 pm ---
--- Quote from: Art Vandelay on July 04, 2016, 09:30:51 pm ---
--- Quote from: Ultimate Paragon on July 04, 2016, 09:26:30 pm ---
--- Quote from: Art Vandelay on July 04, 2016, 09:11:34 pm ---Personally, I'd rather they not be forced to accommodate gay people. The more people that Christians (and every other religion for that matter) alienate, the better.
--- End quote ---
Ah, beating the "religion is evil" drum again? I could explain why that's a ludicrously simplistic viewpoint, but you'd probably just plug your ears.
--- End quote ---
Not "evil", but it is an inherently bad thing.
--- End quote ---
How so?
--- End quote ---
Because it's a worldview that's based solely on blind faith for the sake of blind faith. That's the problem. It not only makes massive claims about everything from the origin of the universe to how you should behave in your day to day life based on nothing of any sort of substance, but it also fosters a culture where beliefs based on blind faith rather than critical thinking and evidence is something that should be not just respected, but even admired. Ergo, religion is indeed a bad thing, and humanity as a whole would indeed be better off without it.
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Do you think we'd be better off still living as hunter-gatherers?
Art Vandelay:
--- Quote from: Ultimate Paragon on July 04, 2016, 09:46:34 pm ---
--- Quote from: Art Vandelay on July 04, 2016, 09:43:02 pm ---
--- Quote from: Ultimate Paragon on July 04, 2016, 09:34:42 pm ---
--- Quote from: Art Vandelay on July 04, 2016, 09:30:51 pm ---
--- Quote from: Ultimate Paragon on July 04, 2016, 09:26:30 pm ---
--- Quote from: Art Vandelay on July 04, 2016, 09:11:34 pm ---Personally, I'd rather they not be forced to accommodate gay people. The more people that Christians (and every other religion for that matter) alienate, the better.
--- End quote ---
Ah, beating the "religion is evil" drum again? I could explain why that's a ludicrously simplistic viewpoint, but you'd probably just plug your ears.
--- End quote ---
Not "evil", but it is an inherently bad thing.
--- End quote ---
How so?
--- End quote ---
Because it's a worldview that's based solely on blind faith for the sake of blind faith. That's the problem. It not only makes massive claims about everything from the origin of the universe to how you should behave in your day to day life based on nothing of any sort of substance, but it also fosters a culture where beliefs based on blind faith rather than critical thinking and evidence is something that should be not just respected, but even admired. Ergo, religion is indeed a bad thing, and humanity as a whole would indeed be better off without it.
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Do you think we'd be better off still living as hunter-gatherers?
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Red herring. You assume that's a hard fact, rather than yet another competing theory on the origin of cities. Even assuming it is fact for a moment, you still assume religion is the only possible mechanic by which cities could form. That without it, there's be no other means for early humans to build cities.
As is standard fare for you, you've not actually addressed anything I've said. Let me simplify it for you. Tell me why blind faith for the sake of blind faith is not an inherently bad thing to base one's worldview on.
Tolpuddle Martyr:
--- Quote from: Ultimate Paragon on July 04, 2016, 09:46:34 pm ---Do you think we'd be better off still living as hunter-gatherers?
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That's an interesting thesis, religion however predates urban civilisation.
Sigmaleph:
For the record, UP has been banned. So, will not be responding to this thread anymore.
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