Wouldn't be surprised if it were both. From what I've heard, Haredi are motherfucking CRAZY. Its folks like this that give Jews a bad name. Jewish folks, gather up, and tell these fuckers to shut the fuck up and get outta the Stone Age, or stop associating themselves with Judaism. Yes, I'd recommend the same to extreme sects of all faiths, not just the Abrahamic ones. They ain't doin ya any favors.