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Title: Women...you are now livestock
Post by: ironbite on October 16, 2012, 06:23:00 pm
Well, according to Georgia that is (http://msmagazine.com/blog/blog/2012/03/31/at-11th-hour-georgia-passes-women-as-livestock-bill/)

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After an emotional 14-hour workday that included fist-fights between lobbyists and a walk-out by women Democrats, the Georgia House passed a Senate-approved bill Thursday night that criminalizes abortion after 20 weeks.

The bill, which does not contain rape or incest exemptions, is expected to receive a signature from Republican Gov. Nathan Deal.

Commonly referred to as the “fetal pain bill” by Georgian Republicans and as the “women as livestock bill” by everyone else, HB 954 garnered national attention this month when state Rep. Terry England (R-Auburn) compared pregnant women carrying stillborn fetuses to the cows and pigs on his farm. According to Rep. England and his warped thought process, if farmers have to “deliver calves, dead or alive,” then a woman carrying a dead fetus, or one not expected to survive, should have to carry it to term.

Yep, that's right.  In Georgia, if you're preggers and the fetus dies in womb, you still have to carry that sucker to term.  Because you're just like pigs and cows.

Ironbite-....I'll be over here getting sick.
Title: Re: Women...you are now livestock
Post by: Nightangel8212 on October 16, 2012, 06:29:40 pm
*Stares in eerie silence for a long moment*

*Twitch*

*Spontaneously combusts from rage*
Title: Re: Women...you are now livestock
Post by: Saturn500 on October 16, 2012, 06:43:06 pm
Dear human race: Please stop making me want to build a Sonic Death Ray/ kill everyone with a rusty knife.

Sincerely,
Saturn500
Title: Re: Women...you are now livestock
Post by: Morgenleoht on October 16, 2012, 08:05:10 pm
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*silently hands Ironbite and Saturn500 parts for their death-rays*
Title: Re: Women...you are now livestock
Post by: Old Viking on October 16, 2012, 08:09:54 pm
In Georgia this is considered minimal government involvement in citizens' lives.   
Title: Re: Women...you are now livestock
Post by: Art Vandelay on October 16, 2012, 08:15:58 pm
Well, this'll certainly make getting a wife a hell of a lot easier.

*warms up branding iron*
Title: Re: Women...you are now livestock
Post by: Lt. Fred on October 16, 2012, 08:39:37 pm
Note that women might be still required to birth a corpse, if that corpse is killed by something that isn't chromosomal or congenital.
Title: Re: Women...you are now livestock
Post by: Patches on October 16, 2012, 08:52:21 pm
Holy freakin' hell, you didn't even get to the worst of it:

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The Georgia “fetal pain” bill  also stipulates that the abortion must be performed in such a way that the fetus emerges alive. If doctors perform the abortion differently, they face felony charges and up to 10 years in prison.

So, the entire basis of this bill is that fetuses are able to feel pain, so the "moral" choice is to force them to die of organ failure over the course of a few hours on an operating table rather than humanely euthanizing them?

I guess it goes along with the whole "Republican's don't care about you once you're born" idea.  They're against abortions, but they're all for birthing you prematurely and then letting you die.
Title: Re: Women...you are now livestock
Post by: TenfoldMaquette on October 16, 2012, 09:06:33 pm
I suggest that women respond by doing what any annoyed and threatened livestock would do and kick the offender(s) to death. Moo, bitches.
Title: Re: Women...you are now livestock
Post by: MadCatTLX on October 16, 2012, 09:33:10 pm
Holy freakin' hell, you didn't even get to the worst of it:

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The Georgia “fetal pain” bill  also stipulates that the abortion must be performed in such a way that the fetus emerges alive. If doctors perform the abortion differently, they face felony charges and up to 10 years in prison.

So, the entire basis of this bill is that fetuses are able to feel pain, so the "moral" choice is to force them to die of organ failure over the course of a few hours on an operating table rather than humanely euthanizing them?

I guess it goes along with the whole "Republican's don't care about you once you're born" idea.  They're against abortions, but they're all for birthing you prematurely and then letting you die.

They're doing this for the purpose of shaming the women getting the abortion, making them watch the fetus dying on an operating table. I think this prove more than ever that they really don't give a fuck about the fetus. They want to make the woman getting the abortion suffer as much as possible, except of course when it's their mistress that is pregnant.
Title: Re: Women...you are now livestock
Post by: Saturn500 on October 16, 2012, 09:35:51 pm
Holy freakin' hell, you didn't even get to the worst of it:

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The Georgia “fetal pain” bill  also stipulates that the abortion must be performed in such a way that the fetus emerges alive. If doctors perform the abortion differently, they face felony charges and up to 10 years in prison.

So, the entire basis of this bill is that fetuses are able to feel pain, so the "moral" choice is to force them to die of organ failure over the course of a few hours on an operating table rather than humanely euthanizing them?

I guess it goes along with the whole "Republican's don't care about you once you're born" idea.  They're against abortions, but they're all for birthing you prematurely and then letting you die.

Okay, now somebody needs to die slowly and painfully...
Title: Re: Women...you are now livestock
Post by: Fpqxz on October 16, 2012, 10:33:16 pm
From the article (emphasis mine):
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For anti-choice lawmakers, it is an item of faith that fetuses feel pain at 20 weeks. But scientists disagree. Reviews of all existing medical evidence have found that fetuses have not developed the neurological structures to feel pain until at least 25 weeks, and likely not until 28 weeks, in the third trimester.

ALL OF MY FUCKING RAGE.
Title: Re: Women...you are now livestock
Post by: SpaceProg on October 16, 2012, 10:54:29 pm
Okay now... this is fundamentally wrong from a zoological perspective.  It wouldn't work on a human either.  Once a fetus dies in the womb, it does what every other living thing does when death happens.  The body starts to decay.  The dead matter has to be removed as soon as possible from both the cow AND the human because infection (BAD INFECTION) can set in and kill the mother if the length of time the mother has to carry it to term is too long.

If this gets passed, I expect quite some hoo-hah.
Title: Re: Women...you are now livestock
Post by: kefkaownsall on October 17, 2012, 12:06:46 am
Okay now... this is fundamentally wrong from a zoological perspective.  It wouldn't work on a human either.  Once a fetus dies in the womb, it does what every other living thing does when death happens.  The body starts to decay.  The dead matter has to be removed as soon as possible from both the cow AND the human because infection (BAD INFECTION) can set in and kill the mother if the length of time the mother has to carry it to term is too long.

If this gets passed, I expect quite some hoo-hah.
Killing the mother I think was the whole goal.
 
Title: Re: Women...you are now livestock
Post by: shykid on October 17, 2012, 12:47:57 am
Not even surprised. This will be appealed and overturned, either way.
Title: Re: Women...you are now livestock
Post by: Veras on October 17, 2012, 11:31:11 am
Not even surprised. This will be appealed and overturned, either way.

Probably, but how long will it be in effect before a court strikes it down?
Title: Re: Women...you are now livestock
Post by: nickiknack on October 17, 2012, 12:57:38 pm
Moo...
Title: Re: Women...you are now livestock
Post by: niam2023 on October 17, 2012, 09:14:40 pm
...If law and order crumble in this world, I'm going to have him as one of the top 20 people I intend to kill.
Title: Re: Women...you are now livestock
Post by: TheL on October 17, 2012, 10:20:22 pm
What the fuck.

What the motherfucking FUCK?

No.  No no no.  This is unconstitutional, isn't it?  Roe v. Wade and all that.
Title: Re: Women...you are now livestock
Post by: ironbite on October 17, 2012, 10:27:42 pm
as I found out this is an old story BUT! I think this passed and I think its on the books.  and yes this does directly cross Roe vs, Wade.  which is the point.

ironbite-because this is what will take out abortion.  also explains my skype comment this morning right?
Title: Re: Women...you are now livestock
Post by: SpaceProg on October 18, 2012, 02:13:35 am
If it HAS passed and is on the books, I've not heard or seen a thing about it.  I live in the belly of yon beast, you know.
Title: Re: Women...you are now livestock
Post by: Cerim Treascair on October 19, 2012, 05:09:42 am
*gets his sword*