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Title: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on December 29, 2015, 07:44:34 pm
I thought I'd go ahead and restart the Things People Say thread (with a slightly more accurate name, although I'll change it back into the old one if that bugs people), since apparently it died?

Quote from: tumblr user mr-cappadocia
Because the original statement wasn’t even just “should” have gay characters.. but WELL WRITTEN.

And that’s well written… according to who again?

See how that handful of soil isn’t just a handful anymore? Now… now there’s expectations… and there’s “well written”… and what’s next? What other “reasonable demand” is going to be made to suit “social expectations”?

(some other shit)

But see… if you think writers need to be “taught to write respectfully-written characters” then you’re the fucking enemy and I don’t think there’s much of any way to reach you.

I learned something today. I learned that it is morally abhorrent to say that mainstream fiction could stand to improve in the field of non-heterosexual representation, and that asking for well-written non-hetero characters is unreasonable.

(Context (http://rationalsjdiscussions.tumblr.com/post/136125829829/fun-fact-you-can-and-should-always-include-well))
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: guizonde on December 29, 2015, 07:47:07 pm
(https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/10462486_1711646502408435_3954810386743479068_n.jpg?oh=69cf7c11bdfc1711134d96f277b0bc4c&oe=57118A18)

i thought phrenology died out in the XIXth century...
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Eiki-mun on December 29, 2015, 11:06:36 pm
Negroidoid.  ;D
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: mellenORL on December 29, 2015, 11:08:57 pm
The original drawing and descriptions are really old, but legit; it's how forensic techs and anthropologists begin to identify bodies. Male and female skull morphology differs, too.

And, note how much BIGGER the "Negroidoid" brain case is? Funny, the racist twit who wrote the diss lacked the cranial capacity to see that.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Canadian Mojo on December 30, 2015, 09:57:46 am
Negroidoid.  ;D

I remember learning about the formal names for the different groups in school back in the 80's.  The teacher started listing them and the guy sitting beside me pipes up with "I'm a Chinkazoid."  ;D As you can imagine, that joke stuck around for a while... like years.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: pyro on December 30, 2015, 10:22:18 am
And, note how much BIGGER the "Negroidoid" brain case is? Funny, the racist twit who wrote the diss lacked the cranial capacity to see that.

Or he's not getting enough oxygen.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Dakota Bob on December 30, 2015, 12:46:12 pm
I read that as "Negrodroid"
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on December 30, 2015, 02:43:04 pm
"Negrodroid"

...That better be the name of a cheap blacksploitation SciFi film.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on December 30, 2015, 02:58:57 pm
I don't really get what "blaxploitation" means as a genre. I tried to look it up and apparently it's a subgenre of "exploitation films"... but "exploitation films" is so broad that I'm even more confused.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: RavynousHunter on December 30, 2015, 03:01:17 pm
I think the basic premise of a blaxploitation movie is that the character is black to make them appear cool.  Bonus points for having them use the term "jive suckah."
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Zygarde on December 30, 2015, 03:09:36 pm
Yay something I know a good deal of info about! So blaxploitation a sub-genera of exploitation films is basically a weird invention of the 70's It was based off the rather prevalent crime subculture that existed in Black culture and often had themes of a lone person going against "the man" or more specifically either corrupt and racist cops (something that black people had to and still deal with.)  Or some other person in a position of power, it also involved creation of black version of classic films such as Blacula and Blackenstein being the most famous examples.  It sort of died down by the mid 80's but it had a rather large impact on black culture even in modern times.

Blaxplotation also gave us Dolomite which is just...weird. So yeah that's all I know and remember from looking stuff up about the sub genera
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: lord gibbon on December 30, 2015, 03:18:12 pm
Wasn't the most popular of the films Shaft?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on December 30, 2015, 04:28:31 pm
(http://oi68.tinypic.com/2eaqaef.jpg)

Because it makes perfect sense that Chris Farley would fake his own death so he could take part in a false flag fifteen years later.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on December 30, 2015, 04:40:04 pm
I have been vocally ranting at my computer screen for 15+ minutes because this shit is just so bad. (Very long, read only if you didn't feel like being happy today)

(click to show/hide)

What's worst about this is that some of it actually touch upon issues that men face. It's just that that, along with the rest of it, is coated in puerile MGTOW garbage.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on December 30, 2015, 04:59:15 pm
Wasn't the most popular of the films Shaft?
Yeah, those were the classics that started the genre.


...Then it was followed by a bunch of really cheap and bad films. Which was not the intention.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on December 30, 2015, 05:16:27 pm
Wasn't the most popular of the films Shaft?
Yeah, those were the classics that started the genre.


...Then it was followed by a bunch of really cheap and bad films. Which was not the intention.

Not all of them were bad.  Black Caesar was pretty good.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: pyro on December 30, 2015, 09:07:49 pm
(http://oi68.tinypic.com/2eaqaef.jpg)

Because it makes perfect sense that Chris Farley would fake his own death so he could take part in a false flag fifteen years later.

Yeah, like someone who wanted to fake his death would not change his hairdo but would reshape his skull. Uh huh.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 01, 2016, 12:47:51 am
(http://oi64.tinypic.com/2lkd8rc.jpg)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: dpareja on January 01, 2016, 12:52:58 am
Who's the person on the left?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 01, 2016, 12:55:23 am
Who's the person on the left?

Serena Williams, I think.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Murdin on January 03, 2016, 04:52:15 am
The whole purpose of saying blacks can only be prejudiced is for the persual of an anti-white agenda. Its just one part of a larger movement to attack whites for nearly everything
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 03, 2016, 10:50:11 pm
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My sentiment towards trannies is thusly.

You're sick.

"You need help. Instead of cutting off your dick or sewing your cunt shut, why don't you try, I don't know, taking some of the appropriate hormonal augmentation as per what you ARE, as opposed to what you FEEL LIKE as a direct result of your PSYCHOLOGICAL DISORDER."

Why is that trans people are so keen on altering their bodies instead of altering their minds?

Is it that you're afraid you won't be 'you' anymore once the problem is fixed, once your sickness is cured?

You don't have to be afraid.

Your whole argument falls apart from there - its not about changing your bodies to suit your mind, you should try changing your mind to suit your body.

We have technology.

You don't have to be sick anymore Anon.

We can help you, without any surgery at all.

You are sick.

You FEEL like something that you are NOT, and will NEVER be, BECAUSE YOU ARE SICK.

Instead of STAYING SICK and surgically/hormonally altering yourself to FEED INTO YOUR SICKNESS, you should get WELL, by taking hormonal augmentation that will OVERCOME YOUR SICKNESS and let you FEEL like what you ARE.

Face it transfags…

You're just upset that people don't support you mutilating yourself for the sake of your psychological disorder, and instead urge you to take medication that will FIX THE PROBLEM.

(Its because you don't want to admit you have a problem. Like a fucking addict.)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on January 04, 2016, 01:15:24 am
me, skating past this skidmark while drinking a gogurt: gender is a social construct (and while I'm at it, so is the concept of either/or binary sex), but what is not a social construct is the fact you're being a piece of shit to people whose experiences don't affect you in the slightest
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Art Vandelay on January 04, 2016, 02:29:54 am
Gender roles are a social construct. Gender itself is not, and sex most certainly is not.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 04, 2016, 10:42:05 am
(http://i.imgur.com/bSAPx82.png)

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Add blacklivesmatter to it, seriously. It's mostly white people with a guilt conscious of shit they didn't even fucking do....
Then the crap of disrupting colleges and pulling shit like the KKK were allowed on campus and throw bricks at them with a police escort. That fucking movement did more to hurt race relations than anything in 50 years.

The first thing is mostly alright.  I disagree with some of it (3rd wave feminism is unfairly demonized, there are legitimate reasons for trigger warnings and safe spaces, and I don't have a problem with moderate fat acceptance activism), but it's not that bad.

The second, on the other hand, is just plain ridiculous.  Yes, some people involved in Black Lives Matter suck, but that doesn't make the entire movement bad.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: I am lizard on January 04, 2016, 10:50:03 am
Yeah, I mostly featured it for the second.

Even if I didn't like BLM I'm still not dumb enough to say it was worse than the drug war or southern strategy.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Sigmaleph on January 04, 2016, 11:31:11 am
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My sentiment towards trannies is thusly.

You're sick.

"You need help. Instead of cutting off your dick or sewing your cunt shut, why don't you try, I don't know, taking some of the appropriate hormonal augmentation as per what you ARE, as opposed to what you FEEL LIKE as a direct result of your PSYCHOLOGICAL DISORDER."

Why is that trans people are so keen on altering their bodies instead of altering their minds?

Is it that you're afraid you won't be 'you' anymore once the problem is fixed, once your sickness is cured?

You don't have to be afraid.

Your whole argument falls apart from there - its not about changing your bodies to suit your mind, you should try changing your mind to suit your body.

We have technology.

You don't have to be sick anymore Anon.

We can help you, without any surgery at all.

You are sick.

You FEEL like something that you are NOT, and will NEVER be, BECAUSE YOU ARE SICK.

Instead of STAYING SICK and surgically/hormonally altering yourself to FEED INTO YOUR SICKNESS, you should get WELL, by taking hormonal augmentation that will OVERCOME YOUR SICKNESS and let you FEEL like what you ARE.

Face it transfags…

You're just upset that people don't support you mutilating yourself for the sake of your psychological disorder, and instead urge you to take medication that will FIX THE PROBLEM.

(Its because you don't want to admit you have a problem. Like a fucking addict.)

I am fascinated by this asshole who thinks "we have the technology". Mate, we can't even modify sexual orientations reliably and you think giving extra T to a transwoman will somehow make her a cis man.

(also terrified by the idea of "fix your mind, not your body". I am my mind. Replacing it with a sufficiently different mind is not fundamentally different from killing me)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Skybison on January 04, 2016, 06:40:32 pm
(http://i2.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/starwarscuckballCensored2900.png)

Just to be clear the white squares cover porn showing the similarities between Rey's stick and black penis.  Because WHITE GENOCIDE!
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on January 04, 2016, 06:44:18 pm
Ah yes, who can forget the leading stars of African-American representation that are Luke Skywalker and Han Solo.

Ah, when will the Star Wars franchise feature a role model for that most undercut of groups; the white male?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: guizonde on January 04, 2016, 06:50:32 pm
their fascination with black penises makes me uncomfortable for some reason... i've never seen somebody drool so hard on penises outside of pornhub before.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Skybison on January 04, 2016, 07:16:32 pm
In case anyone can't read the text in the picture:

"The white female audience is conditioned to identify with the heroic female with her 'cuck staff' shaped like a large black member grasped at hand at all times.  They must be conditioned to become attracted to the Black male lead."

"Who is the white male audience supposed to identify with?  Simple, the little white CUCK BALL.  The nebbish quiet white beta orbiter character attaches itself to the white female lead but is almost sold off (unsuccessfully) at one point.  It is forced to watch the romance unfold."

"A generation of young girls will dress up as Rey with her black staff, psychologically priming them to seek men like the black male lead.  Millions of future white babies will be wiped out by this and all other cultural conditioning assault as white males are demonized.  White males = Angry pathological white supremacists/christian villains."

What I'm getting from this is they wanted Rey to bang the robot ball because it was painted white, or something.

Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on January 04, 2016, 07:36:07 pm
"Cuck" as a word has lost all of its meaning. And if this particular subset of straight white male audience is drawn to balls, maybe there's another issue lying within.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Eiki-mun on January 04, 2016, 08:12:40 pm
God damn it, is it really too much to ask for spoilers? AGAIN, some of us haven't seen the god-damned movie yet!
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: guizonde on January 04, 2016, 08:53:46 pm
God damn it, is it really too much to ask for spoilers? AGAIN, some of us haven't seen the god-damned movie yet!

don't worry, aside from the images, it's just white supremacists masturbating. no spoilers.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: davedan on January 04, 2016, 09:03:55 pm
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Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: guizonde on January 04, 2016, 09:44:03 pm
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Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Cataclysm on January 04, 2016, 11:34:35 pm
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THIS IS A REAL TWEET PEOPLE.

https://mobile.twitter.com/GroverNorquist/status/683425783470239744
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: rookie on January 04, 2016, 11:43:03 pm
In all fairness to Gov. Norquist, we speak English the way Hatians speak French.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: dpareja on January 04, 2016, 11:50:17 pm
In all fairness to Gov. Norquist, we speak English the way Hatians speak French.

Gov.? I don't believe Norquist's been Governor of anything.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: guizonde on January 04, 2016, 11:52:04 pm
In all fairness to Gov. Norquist, we speak English the way Hatians speak French.

if i may be a pedant, the main difference between american and british is accent...

regarding the tweet: XD politicians... the things they say...
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on January 05, 2016, 12:23:45 am
I thought it was kind of clever... wait, he IS being sarcastic, no?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 05, 2016, 12:30:57 am
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Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: davedan on January 05, 2016, 12:58:17 am
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I wasn't complaining just pointing out that the character didn't fit the narrative that the poster was trying to portray.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on January 05, 2016, 03:41:21 am
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I wasn't complaining just pointing out that the character didn't fit the narrative that the poster was trying to portray.

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Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on January 05, 2016, 04:16:16 am
Clearly this means that the white race is being cucked by society.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: ironbite on January 05, 2016, 08:20:44 pm
(https://scontent-tpe1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/944337_989364534456752_7405357692580389659_n.jpg?oh=9a933410b1be64797c09560d086f8574&oe=570D7ED6)

THIS IS A REAL TWEET PEOPLE.

https://mobile.twitter.com/GroverNorquist/status/683425783470239744

*facenovas*
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: guizonde on January 05, 2016, 08:28:05 pm
I thought it was kind of clever... wait, he IS being sarcastic, no?

never underestimate the lack of intelligence in government officials and politicians. until somebody proves that this was said in jest, i'm believing he believes that firmly.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: davedan on January 05, 2016, 08:55:35 pm
I don't know Grover's position on Gun Control, if he follows the rest of his party it wasn't very clever sarcasm but rank stupidity. This is the guy who came up with the republican pledge not to raise taxes.

Edit: However it isn't much of a surprise that Grover turned out to be a dedicated shill. I mean given his parents clearly hated him something was bound to happen.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Cloud3514 on January 05, 2016, 09:54:45 pm
(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/12438978_10153727286511163_1249209706067299662_n.jpg?oh=013454261c27e74f944f42c099deee3a&oe=5747DA72)

Not shown for the top picture: The literally THOUSANDS of peaceful protesters, the disproportionate police response, the unarmed man murdered by police officers, the comments making racist comments and trying to say that Grey deserved to die and was justly punished without a trial, the media completely ignoring the peaceful protests, the literally centuries of racial tension.

Not shown for the bottom picture: The excessive favor from the federal government the ranchers already receive, the treasonous occupation of a federal building with practically no police or military response, the practically non-existent media coverage, what little coverage there is being completely watered down.

Not to mention that this is a blatant false equivalency.

Isn't it funny what context can do to show how idiotic these kinds of things are?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 07, 2016, 11:58:00 pm
Here's some asswipe trying to justify child sexual abuse:

https://archive.is/fNuQO (https://archive.is/fNuQO)

For those who can't use the archive, here you go:

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But in simple terms the answer to your question is no. Infact the main study that attempted to answer a clearly defined version of your question concluded that child sex abuse does not cause intense & pervasive harm & is in numerous cases positive

I really hope this is a troll.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: ironbite on January 08, 2016, 06:43:19 pm
I know I don't respond to UP's posts all that often but didn't we have a moron arguing that child porn was a victimless crime on the forums at one point?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on January 08, 2016, 06:47:34 pm
I know I don't respond to UP's posts all that often but didn't we have a moron arguing that child porn was a victimless crime on the forums at one point?
Did we? I've heard the argument that hentai depicting kids is a victimless crime (the argument being that drawn/cgi porn depicting things that would be illegal in real life let the people who have a fetish for them blow out some steam without harming real people) but I'm not sure if we had someone saying that real child porn is a victimless crime. (But now that you mention it, it does ring a bell...)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: ironbite on January 08, 2016, 08:27:47 pm
TIGERHUNTER!  THAT'S WHO IT WAS!

http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?topic=2891.msg100878#msg100878

Ironbite-I didn't make this thread it just got credited to me because of how the split worked.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Sleepy on January 09, 2016, 10:24:30 am
I think Tiger's other argument was that child porn images should not be removed from the internet because they serve to satisfy people who are looking for them and lessen the demand for new images. Something like that? It was a dark thread.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: ironbite on January 09, 2016, 02:24:10 pm
He was for creating a child porn industry because molesting a child was wrong but distributing images of the molestation was not
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: guizonde on January 09, 2016, 07:17:32 pm
He was for creating a child porn industry because molesting a child was wrong but distributing images of the molestation was not

... that raises the question of how the hell he wanted to create the cp industry without molesting children, doesn't it?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 09, 2016, 07:19:05 pm
He was for creating a child porn industry because molesting a child was wrong but distributing images of the molestation was not

... that raises the question of how the hell he wanted to create the cp industry without molesting children, doesn't it?

It's an ouroboros of unlogic.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 10, 2016, 06:52:53 pm
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Of course the mockery of the Victims of the Dresden Holocaust is beyond despicable, but you just gotta realize these worthless people will say anything outrageous for attention. People so stupid should have no access to your emotions.

Though as the article wanders, the Third Reich is referred to here as "monstrously inhuman tyranny". That doesn't sound like alternative-right, that sounds like mainstream kosher-right.

I'm just curious if you think Bolshevik Communism was bad, and National Socialism was bad, then what exactly would you like to see emerge? You can't just complain about everything and then call it a day. There must be some constructiveness brought to the conversation.

Had Germany become the continental superpower and not the Soviet Union, I think the world would be a much better place today.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: rageaholic on January 10, 2016, 11:27:48 pm
Some of the comments in response to this girl's video are frustrating.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0cXBxpjQfw

tldr; she was staying with some host family in Japan who kicked her out because she broke some arbitrary curfew... by 20 minutes... on her first day.  This happened because she took the wrong train, but the woman she was staying with wouldn't hear it.  While most people think the hosts were total cuntnuggets, she has a surprising number of those calling her a spoiled princess who thinks the rules don't apply to her.  As if she's the one being unreasonable and not the hosts being so unflexible with their arbitrary rules. 

Edit: Fixed Link. 
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: pyro on January 11, 2016, 12:23:31 am
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Of course the mockery of the Victims of the Dresden Holocaust is beyond despicable, but you just gotta realize these worthless people will say anything outrageous for attention. People so stupid should have no access to your emotions.

Though as the article wanders, the Third Reich is referred to here as "monstrously inhuman tyranny". That doesn't sound like alternative-right, that sounds like mainstream kosher-right.

I'm just curious if you think Bolshevik Communism was bad, and National Socialism was bad, then what exactly would you like to see emerge? You can't just complain about everything and then call it a day. There must be some constructiveness brought to the conversation.

Had Germany become the continental superpower and not the Soviet Union, I think the world would be a much better place today.

I dunno. How about not mass-murdering?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on January 11, 2016, 03:10:33 am
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Of course the mockery of the Victims of the Dresden Holocaust is beyond despicable, but you just gotta realize these worthless people will say anything outrageous for attention. People so stupid should have no access to your emotions.

Though as the article wanders, the Third Reich is referred to here as "monstrously inhuman tyranny". That doesn't sound like alternative-right, that sounds like mainstream kosher-right.

I'm just curious if you think Bolshevik Communism was bad, and National Socialism was bad, then what exactly would you like to see emerge? You can't just complain about everything and then call it a day. There must be some constructiveness brought to the conversation.

Had Germany become the continental superpower and not the Soviet Union, I think the world would be a much better place today.

I dunno. How about not mass-murdering?
Aside from everything else that is wrong here I wish to point out that people have no obligation to always have a solution to a problem when they notice a problem. I mean, if I were to notice that the engine in my car is making a funny noise and take it to repair the repairman is not going to insist that I tell him how to fix it. And if I notice that the Super-SS are rounding up people and killing them based on ethnicity I could complain, that this ain't right, and even if I don't have a perfect plan for a better kind of government it would still be a legitimate complaint about the politics in my country.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Sigmaleph on January 11, 2016, 12:01:47 pm
I love the implication that the only two systems that can exist are Bolshevik Communism and National Socialism. Yeah, that sure describes the world today doesn't it.

The alt-right is weird. Fascinating, but weird.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: rageaholic on January 11, 2016, 05:09:51 pm

This is one of many comments to that girl who's host family in Japan kicked her out over being 20 minutes late. 

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And why did the mistress treat you so rudely when you broke her curfew?  Because inconsiderate gaijin like you think they know the transit line but don't and get in late.  She has a schedule to keep but instead, you made her keep yours.  She was responsible for you and most assuredly, fairly used to sassy, disobedient, tourists like you.  Sorry doesn't cut it in the real world where you are expected to respect the rules and accept them like an adult.  So she was overbearing and unforgiving.  To her, you.....were......typical.  Gathering your wits at the police station, you cry because you are feeling sorry for yourself.  "In what world..." you question.  In the REAL world.  You're so smart, you leave the house less than 2 hours you're supposed to be back at and you have no idea where you're going and how to get back.  (smile, giggle, snicker, snigger!)  You can do no wrong.  Who solves your problem?  Daddy and another Japan national who was put out so that little princess can have the nicest room she's ever been in.  Typical reward for your mistakes.  Everyone else pays but you.  Only the woman who clearly spelled out the rules, is wrong!  Nothing but your standard, Westerner brat mentality of, "POOR MEEEE!"
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Dakota Bob on January 11, 2016, 07:34:03 pm
That comment brings great dishonour to his/her family
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: RavynousHunter on January 11, 2016, 08:56:09 pm

This is one of many comments to that girl who's host family in Japan kicked her out over being 20 minutes late. 

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And why did the mistress treat you so rudely when you broke her curfew?  Because inconsiderate gaijin like you think they know the transit line but don't and get in late.  She has a schedule to keep but instead, you made her keep yours.  She was responsible for you and most assuredly, fairly used to sassy, disobedient, tourists like you.  Sorry doesn't cut it in the real world where you are expected to respect the rules and accept them like an adult.  So she was overbearing and unforgiving.  To her, you.....were......typical.  Gathering your wits at the police station, you cry because you are feeling sorry for yourself.  "In what world..." you question.  In the REAL world.  You're so smart, you leave the house less than 2 hours you're supposed to be back at and you have no idea where you're going and how to get back.  (smile, giggle, snicker, snigger!)  You can do no wrong.  Who solves your problem?  Daddy and another Japan national who was put out so that little princess can have the nicest room she's ever been in.  Typical reward for your mistakes.  Everyone else pays but you.  Only the woman who clearly spelled out the rules, is wrong!  Nothing but your standard, Westerner brat mentality of, "POOR MEEEE!"

A comment from a weeaboo defending a living stereotype?  Not surprised.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: rageaholic on January 12, 2016, 01:40:50 am
Yeah, the "it's their culture to be colossal twats" defense. 

There's also the assumption that because she's a middle class white girl, she's sheltered and doesn't know what real hardship is.  Then when she experiences does hardship (such as being lost in a foreign country), they consider it a taste of brutal reality.  Makes me wonder how they adopted such a cynical viewpoint.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: RavynousHunter on January 12, 2016, 09:17:46 am
Yeah, the "it's their culture to be colossal twats" defense. 

There's also the assumption that because she's a middle class white girl, she's sheltered and doesn't know what real hardship is.  Then when she experiences does hardship (such as being lost in a foreign country), they consider it a taste of brutal reality.  Makes me wonder how they adopted such a cynical viewpoint.

They're bored, middle class white kids turned edgelords.  It makes them feel relevant.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 12, 2016, 03:15:09 pm
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I know how Brazil could have been better:

1) No colonization by anyone from the Iberian Peninsula, or any Catholic nation. Is there any Catholic former colony that isn't a poverty-striken dump?

2) Instead colonized by ideally the British, or alternatively the Dutch or French. Ideally not the Belgiums or other small time powers like the Danes, who won't have the power to rule such a territory, nor take it successfully through a peacefully transition to Dominion status.

3) Settled by non-Mediterranean European protestant stock, Brits, French, Dutch, Germans, etc. What is it about the Catholics, sun and kind weather that makes a man settle for corrupt government and layabout living?

These three above would put Brazil on track to become a normal, western-type nation akin to Canada or Australia. Meanwhile, every nation south of Texas colonized by Iberians is a corrupt, poverty-striken sh#thole. With possible exception of Costa Rica, as their founders had the sense to eschew the establishment of a national military, with its fat, power-seeking generals et al.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: guizonde on January 12, 2016, 03:28:17 pm
why am i not surprised that this idiot doesn't know france is catholic? or that for half their life the dutch were a spanish dominion, and thus technically catholic as well? granted, not to the extent of france or spain, but still, it was catholic on paper, with a big tolerance edict towards protestantism. not to mention that protestantism dates back to barely 1529. this means that according to these fools, technically all of the americas are indeed catholic. the usa included, because you know... the louisiana purchase (catholic), the fact that spain owned 2/3rd of the continental usa... the germans were unified in the XIXth century, so that makes no sense whatsoever, and even in 1618, you were hard-pressed to call all of germany protestant. (https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestantisme#/media/File:HolyRomanEmpire_1618.png)

this took me typing "protestantism" on google and reading the first article. geez... so much hate for the catholics. big talk coming from heretics that less colonized and more fled in terror.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ironchew on January 12, 2016, 03:35:00 pm
geez... so much hate for the catholics.

And that's a bad thing?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on January 12, 2016, 03:50:55 pm
Guizonde, minor nitpick but Protestantism began in Germany by Martin Luther, it just took a while to really spread. (Ok, there were other important figures involved as well but being a Lutheran, a sect of Christianity that was inspired by Martin Luther I kinda think of him as a "big deal.")

So whoever that guy UP quoted was they did pick countries that eventually became heavily protestant but in order to be colonized by protestants Brazil would have had to be colonized at a later time or the colonization would have had to been done by early protestants. (That latter bit might have actually been possible if they had been fleeing Europe to settle somewhere with less Catholics. Hmm... Alternate history story material? I'm not sure how big a difference it would have made but seeing as Catholic church is influential in South America it does get my interest. Orthodox Christian settlers colonizing America could have also made the countries quite different.)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Art Vandelay on January 12, 2016, 03:58:04 pm
geez... so much hate for the catholics.
And that's a bad thing?
In this case, yes, due to it being nothing more than religious dick waving.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: guizonde on January 12, 2016, 04:23:27 pm
Guizonde, minor nitpick but Protestantism began in Germany by Martin Luther, it just took a while to really spread. (Ok, there were other important figures involved as well but being a Lutheran, a sect of Christianity that was inspired by Martin Luther I kinda think of him as a "big deal.")

So whoever that guy UP quoted was they did pick countries that eventually became heavily protestant but in order to be colonized by protestants Brazil would have had to be colonized at a later time or the colonization would have had to been done by early protestants. (That latter bit might have actually been possible if they had been fleeing Europe to settle somewhere with less Catholics. Hmm... Alternate history story material? I'm not sure how big a difference it would have made but seeing as Catholic church is influential in South America it does get my interest. Orthodox Christian settlers colonizing America could have also made the countries quite different.)

no argument here, the picture i linked to showed that even nearly 100 years after protestantism was born, the holy roman empire was still not fully protestant. granted, that same pic did show the majority of it was. i just didn't think it was necessary to remind people of that fact. but i didn't ignore it. ok, maybe a little, but it wasn't intended.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on January 12, 2016, 04:55:23 pm
Warning! Spoilered due to size and the amount of insanity it contains!


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Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: guizonde on January 12, 2016, 06:14:41 pm
0.o duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: rookie on January 12, 2016, 10:40:48 pm
geez... so much hate for the catholics.

And that's a bad thing?

Yes it is. You'd not hold a person from Arizona in suspicion because the government there is bat shit crazy. You're mixing up people and institutions. It's a fairly easy trap to fall into.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ironchew on January 12, 2016, 11:17:17 pm
geez... so much hate for the catholics.

And that's a bad thing?

Yes it is. You'd not hold a person from Arizona in suspicion because the government there is bat shit crazy. You're mixing up people and institutions. It's a fairly easy trap to fall into.

I'm deliberately mixing them up to make a point a little further on.

Guizonde gives Catholics and the RCC a lot more deference than he seems to give Jehovah's Witnesses; as an ex-JW myself I enjoy unraveling that inconsistency.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: guizonde on January 13, 2016, 07:16:29 am
geez... so much hate for the catholics.

And that's a bad thing?

Yes it is. You'd not hold a person from Arizona in suspicion because the government there is bat shit crazy. You're mixing up people and institutions. It's a fairly easy trap to fall into.

I'm deliberately mixing them up to make a point a little further on.

Guizonde gives Catholics and the RCC a lot more deference than he seems to give Jehovah's Witnesses; as an ex-JW myself I enjoy unraveling that inconsistency.

if that's how i came across, i apologize. not my intent. ok, the catholics and i have less bad blood than the witnesses and i do, but let's get this out of the way: i don't like either. i have however, studied the catholic church for the best part of my school life, so i like to think i've got a good understanding of them. and my scholarly understanding of them is (sorry if i employ technical jargon): they suck. donkey balls. covered in tar.

now why do i talk like i do about the church? let's face it, the usa still has a hate-on for catholics that hasn't changed much since jfk was president (remember it nearly cost him the election?). i just find it funny to play devil's advocate to a mostly american protestant crowd, having been raised atheist but with both protestant and catholic teachings. oh, and regarding protestantism, i'm surprised the reform didn't happen two or three centuries earlier. there were some undercurrents back then, but it didn't catch on. if you guys are interested, i can pull my notes for you. in the context of medieval and renaissance europe, the reform was a good thing. insomuch as organized religion can be a good thing.

and if i don't give deference to the witnesses, two reasons: a) i haven't studied their history (yeah, i know, i'll get around to it) and b): the aforementioned bad blood leaves a sour taste in the mouth. once burned, twice shy and all that.

hope that clears that up.

@lizard: i don't hate, but i give have a ton of misgivings. too similar for you?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: rageaholic on January 14, 2016, 08:26:19 am
A couple more comments from the Japanese host family video.

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I think I would have treated you the same way. your arrogant retarded expectations of his they should treat you is like some special education baby who should kill themselves. you expect special treatment and get yourself into a situation to allow yourself to be late. they gave you rules and you immediately break them and they are the bad guys? you obviously just want fun and games and not to learn the true Japanese culture or you would have respected their wishes and not been such a bitch, you complain about two host stays but ever conciser your wild expectations of them treating you like a princess isn't reasonable you fucking annoying がじん piece of shit. you bring great shame to the west bimbo fuckface go seppuku you cuntI think

So not expecting to be kicked out at the drop of a hat is "special treatment?".   ::)  How little do these commentators think of themselves and others?

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You know what? Im just gonna say my sister said it best, "First world problems." Cause I was gonna sit here and elaborate in great detail about what a moron you are. Youre bitching about what is commonly known as "first world problems" which basically means thinsg that dont even almost fucking matter, in a country that is NOT a first world country, that you traveled to to LEARN ABOUT THE COUNTRY. And instead of even getting to the point you elongate the speech in an attempt to add dramatic flair. Youre basically complaining about common life in Japan, in Japan. The heat and hot water thing is a bit strange, but its so disgustinly ironic that youre claiming that one house is the HOUSE FROM HELL and only bitching about STUPID SHIT that deosnt even matter, and small living spaces ARE COMMON IN JAPAN YOU RETARD. Get the fuck over yourself. If you want to learn about the world then LEARN about it. You need so much schooling on life.

Wait, Japan isn't a first world country?

Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: ironbite on January 14, 2016, 10:31:52 am
Oh my god it gets dumber.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on January 14, 2016, 12:10:07 pm
There has been a certain debate in Finland for a while now. First some women (and a few men) started using a hashtag to spread stories of sexual harassment. Then a bunch of (almost only) men started to complain how this is all exaggeration, women should just be proud when men show "interest" in them, those were just "jokes" and "women have no sense of humour", that this was a cheap ploy by the feminists to "create" scandals because their movement had already gained true equality and was becoming useless and so on.

Then when there was a story about a Finnish woman who was raped by a refugee the same bunch of men who had complained about feminism now suddenly became defenders of women's rights (but went back to defending sexual assaults the next time they heard of an incident where the offenders were Finns.)

There are two particular quotes from these that I felt compelled to translate:

(http://blogit.image.fi/sininenkirjahylly/wp-content/uploads/sites/15/2016/01/pihtarit.png)
This was a comment directed at a feminist commune. Rough translation:
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it remains as a mystery when it would be acceptable to touch a woman, I guess we should always ask for a permission? So that there won't be misunderstandings.

This might seem as a perfectly reasonable comment, but this guy is absolutely amazed at the idea that you might need a permission to touch another person. He is either really bad at reading signals or simply cannot comprehend that women might not want to get touched by him.

Number 2:
(http://blogit.image.fi/sininenkirjahylly/wp-content/uploads/sites/15/2016/01/jouni.png)
This one is quite hard to translate, but some of the clumsiness in the wording was already in the original text.
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Raping local women is also opression of the indigenous men, like a declaration of war! It is a direct challenge to the indigenous men by the strangers who came from primitive cultures. They are showing to the indigenous men that they are so weak that they cannot even defend their women and children!

This is why these foreign mass rapists rapes and robberies directed at women and children must not be left without retaliation by the men of the indigenous population, if they are men at all? It is a challenge and that is why we need the street patrols.... Otherwise the word will spread abroad that in the north there is a country where you can rape blond women while the weakling "men" look helplessly.

The comment about street patrols refers to "Sons of Odin" who are organizing patrols that would defend Finns from the refugees. They had strict rules on how to act politely towards Finns (but only Finns. And even then anyone who even looks like a foreigner, even if they family has been in the country for generations, is at risk.) and not to go beating up foreigners "just for fun." ...Most of the leaders in the movement have criminal background and connections to Neo-Nazis.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Eiki-mun on January 14, 2016, 12:35:55 pm
Sons of Odin? But the Finnish people weren't even Norse...
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on January 14, 2016, 12:45:45 pm
Sons of Odin? But the Finnish people weren't even Norse...
I KNOW!

...People have joked about that a lot. (Also, the name is in English, which is not our native tongue.)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: I am lizard on January 14, 2016, 06:35:15 pm
Sons of Odin? But the Finnish people weren't even Norse...
Honorary Aryans thou.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Iosa the Invincible on January 15, 2016, 01:55:11 am
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I'm all for multiculturalism. But the fact remains that there is a problem:

http://chromatism.net/current/images/skincolormap.jpg

Being near the poles = lighter skin tone.

Why don't we take a story taking place in some African tribe, and arbitrarily plop a random white guy or two in there. I dare ANYONE to watch that without raising an eyebrow. lol

Oh absolutely. I was just happily pointing out to anyone who is stupid enough to call you insensitive that no, a bunch of light skinned people near the poles is NOT culturally or racially insensitive. I mean my gosh. I'm all for ya know, acknowledging that something can be multicultural and the likes. But come the fuck on. There are limits to absurdity.But then... based upon some of these movies you've reviewed... Well... 

These were comments on a review of a fucking Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer movie (the middle comment was actually the reviewer himself).  One of the first things that he bitched about was that the magical fairies and elves were multicultural, but pulled the "I'm not against multiculturalism, it just doesn't make geographical sense" defense.  Magical fairies and elves in Santa's village.  I guess black and Asian people just physically can't exist in the north or something.  We're not even talking about the "historical accuracy" defense, it's just "what are all these non-whites doing so far up north?"  The majority of the elves are already white anyway. 

And in the review itself he goes on to say that "with as rare and isolated as elves are, there shouldn't be that much genetic diversity" and "the entire point of Rudolph was being mocked for being different, so everyone needs to look the same to hammer in that point or else the story doesn't make sense".  I guess the USA must be a utopia free of social issues, then. 

I knew there was a reason I stopped watching this guy.  This review was made in November 2014, but the above comment was made last April, so I'm not holding out for some recent major change of opinion.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Art Vandelay on January 15, 2016, 02:45:20 am
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I'm all for multiculturalism. But the fact remains that there is a problem:

http://chromatism.net/current/images/skincolormap.jpg

Being near the poles = lighter skin tone.

Why don't we take a story taking place in some African tribe, and arbitrarily plop a random white guy or two in there. I dare ANYONE to watch that without raising an eyebrow. lol

Oh absolutely. I was just happily pointing out to anyone who is stupid enough to call you insensitive that no, a bunch of light skinned people near the poles is NOT culturally or racially insensitive. I mean my gosh. I'm all for ya know, acknowledging that something can be multicultural and the likes. But come the fuck on. There are limits to absurdity.But then... based upon some of these movies you've reviewed... Well... 

These were comments on a review of a fucking Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer movie (the middle comment was actually the reviewer himself).  One of the first things that he bitched about was that the magical fairies and elves were multicultural, but pulled the "I'm not against multiculturalism, it just doesn't make geographical sense" defense.  Magical fairies and elves in Santa's village.  I guess black and Asian people just physically can't exist in the north or something.  We're not even talking about the "historical accuracy" defense, it's just "what are all these non-whites doing so far up north?"  The majority of the elves are already white anyway. 

And in the review itself he goes on to say that "with as rare and isolated as elves are, there shouldn't be that much genetic diversity" and "the entire point of Rudolph was being mocked for being different, so everyone needs to look the same to hammer in that point or else the story doesn't make sense".  I guess the USA must be a utopia free of social issues, then. 

I knew there was a reason I stopped watching this guy.  This review was made in November 2014, but the above comment was made last April, so I'm not holding out for some recent major change of opinion.

Kind of a tangent, but that colour map reeks of bullshit. People from Kyushu and Shikoku (Japan's two southernmost islands) are not as dark as humans can possibly get. If anything, the opposite is the case.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on January 15, 2016, 02:49:40 am
Also, some of the people in the north have darker skin. Like some Eskimos and Sami for example.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on January 15, 2016, 02:51:03 am
And indigenous Siberian people like the Nenets. OP is full of crap, is the point.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on January 15, 2016, 03:00:10 am
I mean the chart does have some accuracy but it's not perfect and people move around faster than the evolution would make the colour of skin adapt.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on January 15, 2016, 04:33:01 am
Yuppers.

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Why don't we take a story taking place in some African tribe, and arbitrarily plop a random white guy or two in there. I dare ANYONE to watch that without raising an eyebrow. lol

False equivalency powers, activate!
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Sigmaleph on January 15, 2016, 10:35:31 am
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I'm all for multiculturalism. But the fact remains that there is a problem:

http://chromatism.net/current/images/skincolormap.jpg

Being near the poles = lighter skin tone.

Why don't we take a story taking place in some African tribe, and arbitrarily plop a random white guy or two in there. I dare ANYONE to watch that without raising an eyebrow. lol

Oh absolutely. I was just happily pointing out to anyone who is stupid enough to call you insensitive that no, a bunch of light skinned people near the poles is NOT culturally or racially insensitive. I mean my gosh. I'm all for ya know, acknowledging that something can be multicultural and the likes. But come the fuck on. There are limits to absurdity.But then... based upon some of these movies you've reviewed... Well... 

These were comments on a review of a fucking Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer movie (the middle comment was actually the reviewer himself).  One of the first things that he bitched about was that the magical fairies and elves were multicultural, but pulled the "I'm not against multiculturalism, it just doesn't make geographical sense" defense.  Magical fairies and elves in Santa's village.  I guess black and Asian people just physically can't exist in the north or something.  We're not even talking about the "historical accuracy" defense, it's just "what are all these non-whites doing so far up north?"  The majority of the elves are already white anyway. 

And in the review itself he goes on to say that "with as rare and isolated as elves are, there shouldn't be that much genetic diversity" and "the entire point of Rudolph was being mocked for being different, so everyone needs to look the same to hammer in that point or else the story doesn't make sense".  I guess the USA must be a utopia free of social issues, then. 

I knew there was a reason I stopped watching this guy.  This review was made in November 2014, but the above comment was made last April, so I'm not holding out for some recent major change of opinion.

Kind of a tangent, but that colour map reeks of bullshit. People from Kyushu and Shikoku (Japan's two southernmost islands) are not as dark as humans can possibly get. If anything, the opposite is the case.

I tried to check the source (http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ajpa.10263/abstract) for that map, but it's paywalled. It looks like the map is based on a different map which is a model attempting to predict skin colour via UV exposure and possibly other things. So basically it's actually a map of environmental factors, not specifically of skin colour.

I think, anyway. Like I said, paywalled, and I'm on vacation so I can't try to get access through university computers.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ironchew on January 15, 2016, 01:29:55 pm
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I'm all for multiculturalism. But the fact remains that there is a problem:

http://chromatism.net/current/images/skincolormap.jpg

Being near the poles = lighter skin tone.

Why don't we take a story taking place in some African tribe, and arbitrarily plop a random white guy or two in there. I dare ANYONE to watch that without raising an eyebrow. lol

Oh absolutely. I was just happily pointing out to anyone who is stupid enough to call you insensitive that no, a bunch of light skinned people near the poles is NOT culturally or racially insensitive. I mean my gosh. I'm all for ya know, acknowledging that something can be multicultural and the likes. But come the fuck on. There are limits to absurdity.But then... based upon some of these movies you've reviewed... Well... 

These were comments on a review of a fucking Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer movie (the middle comment was actually the reviewer himself).  One of the first things that he bitched about was that the magical fairies and elves were multicultural, but pulled the "I'm not against multiculturalism, it just doesn't make geographical sense" defense.  Magical fairies and elves in Santa's village.  I guess black and Asian people just physically can't exist in the north or something.  We're not even talking about the "historical accuracy" defense, it's just "what are all these non-whites doing so far up north?"  The majority of the elves are already white anyway. 

And in the review itself he goes on to say that "with as rare and isolated as elves are, there shouldn't be that much genetic diversity" and "the entire point of Rudolph was being mocked for being different, so everyone needs to look the same to hammer in that point or else the story doesn't make sense".  I guess the USA must be a utopia free of social issues, then. 

I knew there was a reason I stopped watching this guy.  This review was made in November 2014, but the above comment was made last April, so I'm not holding out for some recent major change of opinion.

Kind of a tangent, but that colour map reeks of bullshit. People from Kyushu and Shikoku (Japan's two southernmost islands) are not as dark as humans can possibly get. If anything, the opposite is the case.

They're describing a real phenomenon, at least. A human population in isolation for several thousand years will change its skin color in response to sunlight exposure, which is mainly determined by latitude.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 16, 2016, 07:16:15 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/Zq6P4dP.png)

Or it could just be a stylized falcon.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Skybison on January 18, 2016, 10:41:32 pm
White Supremist vs MRA, ready FIGHT

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European women deserve protection from violent, raping Arabs who see them as subhuman
#SaveEurope from #rapefugees

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No they don't.  They vote left and pro-multiculturalism all the time and spit in their men's faces.  They deserve it.

The winner is no one, we all lose.

PS the MRA is a self published ebook author.  If you want to know if he's any good, he also tweeted this

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Real authors don't fret over punctuation or grammar.  Only worthless English majors do that.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 18, 2016, 11:29:14 pm
White Supremist vs MRA, ready FIGHT

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European women deserve protection from violent, raping Arabs who see them as subhuman
#SaveEurope from #rapefugees

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No they don't.  They vote left and pro-multiculturalism all the time and spit in their men's faces.  They deserve it.

The winner is no one, we all lose.

PS the MRA is a self published ebook author.  If you want to know if he's any good, he also tweeted this

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Real authors don't fret over punctuation or grammar.  Only worthless English majors do that.

Maybe we should put them in a boxing ring, let them duke it out.

And while we're at it, let's take people with abhorrent political beliefs and strand them on an island somewhere.  It might make a good Reality TV show.  Jihadis vs Maoists!  Sovereign Citizens vs. the Animal Liberation Front!  Christian Identity vs. Nazi Neopagans!
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Cloud3514 on January 19, 2016, 12:34:41 am
People who choose an incredibly idiotic hill to die on vs. people who have refuse to consider that they might be wrong? Oh, wait, those are the same thing.

EDIT: Don't worry, I'll play nice.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 19, 2016, 04:45:52 pm
(http://oi67.tinypic.com/2udu6nn.jpg)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Skybison on January 19, 2016, 09:46:58 pm
Did you that FDR didn't personally storm the beaches of Normandy?!!  He hated America!
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: niam2023 on January 19, 2016, 09:57:16 pm
What slander is this?

I just read in a very interesting Japanese Manga that FDR personally stormed Normandy, fought Himmler and Goering's humongous mecha together with Truman in THEIR mechas, and then fought the forces of the Nazi SS in the air fortresses of France!

...

That wasn't a historical graphic novel, was it...?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: solar. on January 20, 2016, 03:07:15 pm
I have no words for this bullshit.

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Bisexuality doesn't exist, at the very least in men. Look at this bitch trying to prove it does, though.

https://bitchmedia.org/post/isnt-he-lovely-male-bisexuality-doesnt-existoh-wait-it-does

That 2009 column argued that pop culture "bromances" were bringing male bisexuality into the mainstream, but that thesis was tenuous at best. The "bro" in "bromance" offered a linguistic cue that any guy pals labeled as such were merely platonic, not gettin' physical like Oliva Newton John. And not until earlier this year has scientific research dismantled the whole "gay, straight, or lying" sexual stereotype imposed on men.

For those of us who are into science however, there is proof that bisexuality is a myth.

Rieger, G., Chivers, M. L., & Bailey, J. M. (2005). Sexual arousal patterns of bisexual men. Psychological science, 16(8), 579-584, as discussed in the NY Times:

A study casts doubt on whether true bisexuality exists, at least in men. People who claim bisexuality, according to these critics, are usually homosexual, but are ambivalent about their homosexuality or simply closeted.  In the new study, a team of psychologists directly measured genital arousal patterns in response to images of men and women. The psychologists found that men who identified themselves as bisexual were in fact exclusively aroused by either one sex or the other, usually by other men. The study is the largest of several small reports suggesting that the estimated 1.7 percent of men who identify themselves as bisexual show physical attraction patterns that differ substantially from professed desires.

Basically, while men reported being bisexual, their actual physical arousal (their true disposition towards one or another) was towards one sex. Here is a link to the study

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/J_Bailey2/publication/7658643_Sexual_arousal_patterns_of_bisexual_men/links/0deec518bc045a1076000000.pdf

Rosenthal, A. M., Sylva, D., Safron, A., & Bailey, J. M. (2011). Sexual arousal patterns of bisexual men revisited. Biological Psychology, 88(1), 112-115.

The researchers, probably pressured by political correctness, replicated the prior study, however this time they recruited from places where they would be more likely to find bisexual men. Basically, they went to places where they would find sexual deviants and people with different paraphilia.

In order to satisfy SJWs they had to go to places of sexual deviancy, so their findings in 2011 should be rejected because they did not control for general sexual addiction or other elements that would prove the person to be a general deviant. Below is a link to the 2011 study.

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/J_Bailey2/publication/51496686_Sexual_arousal_patterns_of_bisexual_men_revisited/links/0046352cb3d20053af000000.pdf

Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on January 20, 2016, 03:31:38 pm
So they went to recruit from places where they'd be likely to find the bisexual men that, according to you, don't exist. LOGIC, MOTHERFUCKER! CAN YOU USE IT?

oh and also apparently a man being into dudes isn't deviancy, a man being into chicks isn't deviancy, but a man being into dudes AND chicks is, why not, peanut butter and jelly chemically react to make human faeces now

Kinsley? lol who's that
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: solar. on January 20, 2016, 04:06:18 pm
So they went to recruit from places where they'd be likely to find the bisexual men that, according to you, don't exist. LOGIC, MOTHERFUCKER! CAN YOU USE IT?

oh and also apparently a man being into dudes isn't deviancy, a man being into chicks isn't deviancy, but a man being into dudes AND chicks is, why not, peanut butter and jelly chemically react to make human faeces now

Kinsley? lol who's that
Thanks bro. I needed that. I'm not good at refuting bullshit myself unless it's standard fundie BS. Like if it's a person comparing homosexuality to bestiality or child molestation all I have to say is "informed consent, motherfucker, DO YOU KNOW IT" but I guess I'm not cut out for countering the more subtle bullshit. The kind of bullshit that seems intellectual and scientific but it's bullshit all the same.

Sorry if I'm rambling. I drank copious amounts of alcohol after reading the post I quoted.

I think the KiwiFarms just aren't for me.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on January 20, 2016, 04:33:03 pm
I'm glad I can occasionally manage to word vomit something that people appreciate. And if I had to guess, these "studies" are either hugely biased or intensely narrow.

And KiwiFarms from what I've seen is a festering fuckpile anyway, you're not missing much.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: LeTipex on January 20, 2016, 05:22:25 pm
I have no words for this bullshit.

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Bisexuality doesn't exist, at the very least in men. Look at this bitch trying to prove it does, though.

https://bitchmedia.org/post/isnt-he-lovely-male-bisexuality-doesnt-existoh-wait-it-does

That 2009 column argued that pop culture "bromances" were bringing male bisexuality into the mainstream, but that thesis was tenuous at best. The "bro" in "bromance" offered a linguistic cue that any guy pals labeled as such were merely platonic, not gettin' physical like Oliva Newton John. And not until earlier this year has scientific research dismantled the whole "gay, straight, or lying" sexual stereotype imposed on men.

For those of us who are into science however, there is proof that bisexuality is a myth.

Rieger, G., Chivers, M. L., & Bailey, J. M. (2005). Sexual arousal patterns of bisexual men. Psychological science, 16(8), 579-584, as discussed in the NY Times:

A study casts doubt on whether true bisexuality exists, at least in men. People who claim bisexuality, according to these critics, are usually homosexual, but are ambivalent about their homosexuality or simply closeted.  In the new study, a team of psychologists directly measured genital arousal patterns in response to images of men and women. The psychologists found that men who identified themselves as bisexual were in fact exclusively aroused by either one sex or the other, usually by other men. The study is the largest of several small reports suggesting that the estimated 1.7 percent of men who identify themselves as bisexual show physical attraction patterns that differ substantially from professed desires.

Basically, while men reported being bisexual, their actual physical arousal (their true disposition towards one or another) was towards one sex. Here is a link to the study

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/J_Bailey2/publication/7658643_Sexual_arousal_patterns_of_bisexual_men/links/0deec518bc045a1076000000.pdf

Rosenthal, A. M., Sylva, D., Safron, A., & Bailey, J. M. (2011). Sexual arousal patterns of bisexual men revisited. Biological Psychology, 88(1), 112-115.

The researchers, probably pressured by political correctness, replicated the prior study, however this time they recruited from places where they would be more likely to find bisexual men. Basically, they went to places where they would find sexual deviants and people with different paraphilia.

In order to satisfy SJWs they had to go to places of sexual deviancy, so their findings in 2011 should be rejected because they did not control for general sexual addiction or other elements that would prove the person to be a general deviant. Below is a link to the 2011 study.

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/J_Bailey2/publication/51496686_Sexual_arousal_patterns_of_bisexual_men_revisited/links/0046352cb3d20053af000000.pdf
Apparently I'm a mythical creature.
Gaze upon my un-existence, ye mighty, and despair!
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: davedan on January 20, 2016, 05:26:40 pm
Ballpoint my old mug, he's not saying you don't exist but rather he knows your sexuality better than you. He thinks you are probably lying and are gay or are a sexual deviant. Who are you to disagree with how he feels about your sexuality.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on January 20, 2016, 06:07:43 pm
And in case anyone needed convincing that SJW as a descriptor is a nonsense word, apparently it now includes people being aware that bisexuality is a thing. Fuck, Undertale actually is an SJW game!
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Delirium on January 21, 2016, 05:16:17 pm
I know Reddit is kind of low-hanging fruit, but this guy's (http://www.reddit.com/user/sematrix) entire post history.

If I put as much energy into my Russian language study as this guy does into hating Jews, I'd probably be fluent by now.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: ironbite on January 21, 2016, 05:35:11 pm
DELIRIUM'S BACK!
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on January 22, 2016, 07:28:11 am
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Some girl bit down on him during sex? That sounds hot to me, biting all part of the fun! Did she ever ACTUALLY ask him to stop? These ‘groupies’ should know they are playthings, not potential girlfriends/future wives, expectation leads to dissapoitment which turns to bitterness & then exaggerated stories circulate on gossip blogs to paint a darkened picture of the celebrity that they feel so rejected by.

Context. (http://contemptor.com/2015/07/28/another-cosby-a-reminder-that-several-women-have-accused-jared-leto-of-sexual-assault/)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 22, 2016, 11:27:30 am
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The end game of feminism is to make it impossible for a female to do any wrong, absolving her from all responsibility for her actions, no matter how reprehensible. The fact that a human being has a vagina will soon mean that she can not make a bad decision about anything. Punishing or criticizing a woman for her life choices will be abolished.

Roosh doesn't understand feminism part 1,385.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 27, 2016, 09:05:01 pm
Just in case you thought the only cranks on Tumblr were leftist:

http://thisisrealwhiteculture.tumblr.com/post/116934961372/nazi-auschwitz-camp-officer-93-to-face-trial (http://thisisrealwhiteculture.tumblr.com/post/116934961372/nazi-auschwitz-camp-officer-93-to-face-trial)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: solar. on January 29, 2016, 10:21:58 am
One of my friends on Facebook...

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The mere idea that there is a concerted feminist effort to grant special privilege to women and to decry any voice of equality as hate-speech should indicate full and well to all of you that women are exactly as capable of behaving like entitled fucking ignorant children as men and deserve no such special treatment. If you are a feminist, do me a favor: end your pathetic charade and fucking kill yourself for the good of the gene pool.

Yeah, no. That isn't what feminism is.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Delirium on January 30, 2016, 12:39:04 am
I would have submitted this to the main site but I am shit at HTML. Spoilered for size:
(click to show/hide)

That's right, Jesus dying on the cross was literally worse than the Holocaust. This guy also thinks that the Holocaust didn't happen (but he probably wish it did).
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on January 30, 2016, 01:57:10 am
Pretty sure the omnipotent controller of the universe could've, you know, prevented the crucifixion of Christ if he'd been that offended.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on January 30, 2016, 02:09:12 am
...Maybe I should reread the Bible but I thought the Romans were the ones who crucified Jesus?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Art Vandelay on January 30, 2016, 02:09:30 am
What is this whole "the Jews killed Jesus" nonsense anyway? It was the Romans who crucified him.

Besides, I thought the whole point of Jesus existing was to get crucified in the first place. Basically, God sacrificing himself to himself to appease himself in order to save us all from himself.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Svata on January 30, 2016, 02:40:37 am
What is this whole "the Jews killed Jesus" nonsense anyway? It was the Romans who crucified him.

Besides, I thought the whole point of Jesus existing was to get crucified in the first place. Basically, God sacrificing himself to himself to appease himself in order to save us all from himself.


Which would (should, anyway) make Judas, who got him arrested, directly leading to his execution, a hero, not a villain, correct? Whatever. 's all made up anyway.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: SCarpelan on January 30, 2016, 05:43:27 am
What is this whole "the Jews killed Jesus" nonsense anyway? It was the Romans who crucified him.

Besides, I thought the whole point of Jesus existing was to get crucified in the first place. Basically, God sacrificing himself to himself to appease himself in order to save us all from himself.


Which would (should, anyway) make Judas, who got him arrested, directly leading to his execution, a hero, not a villain, correct? Whatever. 's all made up anyway.
That was one version of the story. It was dropped from the official Bible, though.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Sigmaleph on January 30, 2016, 09:26:13 am
What is this whole "the Jews killed Jesus" nonsense anyway? It was the Romans who crucified him.

Besides, I thought the whole point of Jesus existing was to get crucified in the first place. Basically, God sacrificing himself to himself to appease himself in order to save us all from himself.


Which would (should, anyway) make Judas, who got him arrested, directly leading to his execution, a hero, not a villain, correct? Whatever. 's all made up anyway.
That was one version of the story. It was dropped from the official Bible, though.

It's not so much a version as it is an interpretation, though? Given that Judas is instrumental to the crucifixion, and given that the crucifixion is needed to save mankind from Hell (two things most of the Bible fandom agrees on), it's fairly straightforward to say Judas 'betraying' Jesus was a good thing. I don't know how you can drop that from the Bible.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Delirium on January 30, 2016, 12:42:25 pm
What is this whole "the Jews killed Jesus" nonsense anyway? It was the Romans who crucified him.

Besides, I thought the whole point of Jesus existing was to get crucified in the first place. Basically, God sacrificing himself to himself to appease himself in order to save us all from himself.

Disclaimer: I'm not an expert in early Christianity.

If you wanted to be a pedantic asshole you could argue that the Jewish authorities were technically responsible because they turned Jesus in to the authorities, but the Romans were the ones who actually carried out the execution. Jesus also posed a threat to the Romans because he preached against the Roman occupation of Judea and thus the Romans would have had a reason to execute him. There were a ton of Jewish sects and messiah claimants at the time and the Jews didn't go around executing everyone who disagreed with them. The "Jews killed Jesus" canard came about around the time Christianity started gaining popularity with gentiles, so I'm guessing we can blame Paul for this.

Then again, we're trying to apply logic to a flyer made by someone who thinks serial killers are part of an occult conspiracy to the goddess Ceres, Germans are persecuted, Jewish people worship the Holocaust and are trying to push "Holocaustianity" on everyone, and that Mel Gibson sold out to the Jews (among other insane things). "Jews killed Jesus" is probably the least ridiculous thing he believes.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 30, 2016, 01:02:35 pm
What is this whole "the Jews killed Jesus" nonsense anyway? It was the Romans who crucified him.

Besides, I thought the whole point of Jesus existing was to get crucified in the first place. Basically, God sacrificing himself to himself to appease himself in order to save us all from himself.


Which would (should, anyway) make Judas, who got him arrested, directly leading to his execution, a hero, not a villain, correct? Whatever. 's all made up anyway.

Um, the historical consensus is that there really was a Jesus of Nazareth who was born within the vicinity of 1 CE, got baptized, started a religious movement when he was about thirty, and was crucified by Pontius Pilate.  Everything else is up for debate, but that much is agreed upon.

What is this whole "the Jews killed Jesus" nonsense anyway? It was the Romans who crucified him.

Besides, I thought the whole point of Jesus existing was to get crucified in the first place. Basically, God sacrificing himself to himself to appease himself in order to save us all from himself.

Disclaimer: I'm not an expert in early Christianity.

If you wanted to be a pedantic asshole you could argue that the Jewish authorities were technically responsible because they turned Jesus in to the authorities, but the Romans were the ones who actually carried out the execution. Jesus also posed a threat to the Romans because he preached against the Roman occupation of Judea and thus the Romans would have had a reason to execute him. There were a ton of Jewish sects and messiah claimants at the time and the Jews didn't go around executing everyone who disagreed with them. The "Jews killed Jesus" canard came about around the time Christianity started gaining popularity with gentiles, so I'm guessing we can blame Paul for this.

Then again, we're trying to apply logic to a flyer made by someone who thinks serial killers are part of an occult conspiracy to the goddess Ceres, Germans are persecuted, Jewish people worship the Holocaust and are trying to push "Holocaustianity" on everyone, and that Mel Gibson sold out to the Jews (among other insane things). "Jews killed Jesus" is probably the least ridiculous thing he believes.

I was always taught that Christian anti-Semitism didn't start until later, when official persecutions began under Nero.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ironchew on January 30, 2016, 01:24:42 pm
Um, the historical consensus is that there really was a Jesus of Nazareth who was born within the vicinity of 1 CE, got baptized, started a religious movement when he was about thirty, and was crucified by Pontius Pilate.  Everything else is up for debate, but that much is agreed upon.

I'm surprised you aren't sharing this knowledge in the Mythicism thread. Suffice to say, that's a lot more detail than the historical consensus and it's all up for debate.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: rookie on January 30, 2016, 09:04:44 pm
Something else to consider. The word messiah around that time period carried with it the implication of military. And the saviour part, coupled with a military word, could cause the Romans to, say, take interest.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 30, 2016, 09:17:17 pm
Something else to consider. The word messiah around that time period carried with it the implication of military. And the saviour part, coupled with a military word, could cause the Romans to, say, take interest.

Especially considering Judea was a notoriously restive province.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: SCarpelan on January 31, 2016, 08:22:10 am
What is this whole "the Jews killed Jesus" nonsense anyway? It was the Romans who crucified him.

Besides, I thought the whole point of Jesus existing was to get crucified in the first place. Basically, God sacrificing himself to himself to appease himself in order to save us all from himself.
Which would (should, anyway) make Judas, who got him arrested, directly leading to his execution, a hero, not a villain, correct? Whatever. 's all made up anyway.
That was one version of the story. It was dropped from the official Bible, though.
It's not so much a version as it is an interpretation, though? Given that Judas is instrumental to the crucifixion, and given that the crucifixion is needed to save mankind from Hell (two things most of the Bible fandom agrees on), it's fairly straightforward to say Judas 'betraying' Jesus was a good thing. I don't know how you can drop that from the Bible.
According to the Gospel of Judas Jesus directly told Judas to "betray" him.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 31, 2016, 09:48:31 am
(http://oi67.tinypic.com/mt9hyf.jpg)

Personhood isn't dependent on size, but planethood is.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: ironbite on January 31, 2016, 04:47:49 pm
I....I think you fail to see what this person is actually saying.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Eiki-mun on January 31, 2016, 04:49:17 pm
I am honestly confused as to what this person is saying.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: davedan on January 31, 2016, 05:00:50 pm
What is this whole "the Jews killed Jesus" nonsense anyway? It was the Romans who crucified him.

Besides, I thought the whole point of Jesus existing was to get crucified in the first place. Basically, God sacrificing himself to himself to appease himself in order to save us all from himself.
Which would (should, anyway) make Judas, who got him arrested, directly leading to his execution, a hero, not a villain, correct? Whatever. 's all made up anyway.
That was one version of the story. It was dropped from the official Bible, though.
It's not so much a version as it is an interpretation, though? Given that Judas is instrumental to the crucifixion, and given that the crucifixion is needed to save mankind from Hell (two things most of the Bible fandom agrees on), it's fairly straightforward to say Judas 'betraying' Jesus was a good thing. I don't know how you can drop that from the Bible.
According to the Gospel of Judas Jesus directly told Judas to "betray" him.

The gospel of Judas (at least the one we have found) is no more connected to any first hand account than any of the synoptic gospels. Like them it was written many years after the time Jesus was supposed to have died and was not written, or even dictated, by the person whose name it bears. Mark for instance doesn't even claim to be written by Mark.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: SCarpelan on February 01, 2016, 03:23:21 am
The gospel of Judas (at least the one we have found) is no more connected to any first hand account than any of the synoptic gospels. Like them it was written many years after the time Jesus was supposed to have died and was not written, or even dictated, by the person whose name it bears. Mark for instance doesn't even claim to be written by Mark.
I'm not making that claim either. I was just making the point that the interpretation of Judas as a heroic figure is not a new one.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: davedan on February 01, 2016, 03:42:08 am
No but then again the only logically consistent view is that Judas is a hero. When you think about it, his suffering was going to be greater too as he would have known that he would be reviled.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on February 01, 2016, 03:55:42 am
That's just like your opinion man.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: davedan on February 01, 2016, 03:59:16 am
Well if it took Jesus's sacrifice to redeem mankind, how can Judas be anything other than a hero?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: R. U. Sirius on February 01, 2016, 09:16:53 am
This brings to mind an early-90s movie called "The Judas Project" that I watched in prison, basically trying to set the story of Jesus in modern times to make it more relatable. Problem was, it was set in America in a time of relative peace (the Cold War had ended just a few years before), so Jesse's (the Jesus character) threat to those in power was pretty much summed up as "he's causing unrest", with no indication of what kind of unrest shown in the movie itself. In the movie, the crucifixion is carried out in secret, pretty much like a Mafia hit, as opposed to having the backing of law that it did in the Bible itself. The Pilate character also left after telling the priest, "if you want him dead, do it yourself," so the priest (who had the most stereotypically Jewish features I've ever seen) stage-managed the whole thing and ended up fried with a fireball from Heaven for his trouble.

Fact is, though, that crucifixion wasn't a common form of execution for the Romans. Its use varied depending on time and place, but for the most part, it was reserved for those the Romans felt were a threat to their power. So while the story in the Bible tries to portray it as Jesus' execution being arranged by Caiaphas and the other priests for blasphemy, it really only makes sense for Pilate to engage in that form of execution if he felt that A) Jesus was engaging in sedition against the Roman state or B) that killing Jesus would quell the unrest that was stirring up AGAINST him, thus helping to maintain order. If it were as simple as a blasphemy charge, he would have told the priests, "Why don't you just stone him the way you do for other blasphemers?"
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: SCarpelan on February 01, 2016, 04:50:56 pm
I made the mistake of eyeing through some of the comments on the newer Deadpool trailer.

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Could the "badguy" chick in this have been anymore like a man?  What an uber "Strap-on Bull dyke".  That 3rd wave of feminism encourages this sort of "could not back that shit up in the real world" crap.  Violence against her will be one for the women's movement. The young Gen Z girl is also one for the women's movement I suppose.  Big and Little Mangina do not have an ounce of femininity between them.  Another pseudo feminist crap movie I will never watch.  Hollywood is run by Pussies.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 01, 2016, 05:16:49 pm
I made the mistake of eyeing through some of the comments on the newer Deadpool trailer.

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Could the "badguy" chick in this have been anymore like a man?  What an uber "Strap-on Bull dyke".  That 3rd wave of feminism encourages this sort of "could not back that shit up in the real world" crap.  Violence against her will be one for the women's movement. The young Gen Z girl is also one for the women's movement I suppose.  Big and Little Mangina do not have an ounce of femininity between them.  Another pseudo feminist crap movie I will never watch.  Hollywood is run by Pussies.

He's right about Hollywood being "run by pussies," but not for the reasons he thinks.  Look at how much the studios pander to China.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ironchew on February 01, 2016, 05:50:17 pm
Look at how much the studios pander to China.

What does that mean? What do you think entertainment executives should be doing?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: ironbite on February 01, 2016, 06:09:40 pm
Well if it took Jesus's sacrifice to redeem mankind, how can Judas be anything other than a hero?

YOU STOLE THAT FROM MASH!
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: davedan on February 01, 2016, 08:50:03 pm
Well if it took Jesus's sacrifice to redeem mankind, how can Judas be anything other than a hero?

YOU STOLE THAT FROM MASH!

Did I? if I did it was subliminal.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ironchew on February 01, 2016, 09:15:26 pm
Well if it took Jesus's sacrifice to redeem mankind, how can Judas be anything other than a hero?

YOU STOLE THAT FROM MASH!

Did I? if I did it was subliminal.

14 syllables before the comma; 14 syllables after.

It had a lyrical meter to it.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Svata on February 01, 2016, 11:35:37 pm
You sure? I count 15 before.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Eiki-mun on February 01, 2016, 11:40:12 pm
You sure? I count 15 before.

Take out the Well.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Svata on February 01, 2016, 11:53:29 pm
Yeah, I was counting the well.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on February 02, 2016, 02:38:46 am
Look at how much the studios pander to China.

What does that mean? What do you think entertainment executives should be doing?

Red dawn remake. They replaced Chinese invaders with Korean's. ...So either they were afraid of losing Chinese customers or they thought that the US military can be beaten and destroyed by North Korea.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ironchew on February 02, 2016, 02:57:00 am
Look at how much the studios pander to China.

What does that mean? What do you think entertainment executives should be doing?

Red dawn remake. They replaced Chinese invaders with Korean's. ...So either they were afraid of losing Chinese customers or they thought that the US military can be beaten and destroyed by North Korea.

Ahh, I figured it would be about not properly othering China in our propaganda films.

Either nation invading the U.S. in a land war is a ludicrous concept.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on February 04, 2016, 04:29:38 am
Quote from:  youtube user Adam Post
"Throughout the history of American society, non-whites have been made to feel inferior to their white counterparts. "Pride" in your ethnicity is a response to that."

That kind of response will continue to perpetuate inequality, thus make it ironically self defeating. I get what you're saying, but that's just an excuse to give in to our immature instinctual tribalism. It's a very regressive response to a regressive problem. That is not going to somehow result in progress. Just my 2c.

Hear that, marginalized groups? By cultivating solidarity and self-love, you're perpetuating your own social inequality!
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: SCarpelan on February 04, 2016, 09:36:39 am
President Niinistö held a speech about the refugee crisis and the public TV YLE televised it. Unfortunately due to a technical error audio was lost from the transmission for a bit over a minute. Somebody was not happy. (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154054995492189&set=a.48306727188.72092.666767188&type=3&theater)

Quote from: translated
YLE censored President Niinistö's speech. Pull a muslimnigger's shitty pussy on your head, fucrking[sic] shitwhores! :)You'll hear about this yet you fucking assholes.

The random smiley is just precious. Is the person posting this so tone deaf that they think "just joking" makes this kind of message any more acceptable or less hateful?

By the way, YLE has both a transcript of the speech and a recording with fixed audio available on their website but that's probably just a cover-up to hide the censorship.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on February 04, 2016, 09:43:44 am
...literally "vetäkää muslimin******n paskainen vittu päähänne"? That's... a new one.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 07, 2016, 10:39:39 pm
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...I have no words.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: TheL on February 08, 2016, 04:05:57 pm
"Lifts index finger."

Pointing upward is now a Muslim thing?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on February 08, 2016, 04:08:40 pm
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...I have no words.

...Do they think this is pro-muslim or anti-muslim propaganda? I don't have enough tinfoil in my hat for this kind of bullshit.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Iosa the Invincible on February 08, 2016, 10:30:18 pm
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So women can run around naked with "Doesn't Mean Rape Me" across their chest but a man can't show his dick? The hypocrisy.
About a guy exposing himself at an anti-rape rally.

These assholes care more about "sticking it to bitching women" than actual issues.  He didn't even bring up an actual problem, like men getting thrown on the sex-offender registry for drunkenly urinating in public.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on February 09, 2016, 02:04:57 am
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So women can run around naked with "Doesn't Mean Rape Me" across their chest but a man can't show his dick? The hypocrisy.
About a guy exposing himself at an anti-rape rally.

Well... Women also expose themselves at some anti-rape rallies...
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Art Vandelay on February 09, 2016, 02:42:33 am
I expose myself pretty much everywhere.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on February 09, 2016, 04:59:06 am
There was an article about cultural appropriation in Finnish. One of the things that was complained about was that a WHITE person wrote a story that had Jewish people and other racialized* people. Because it is cultural appropriation to write about people who aren't from the same ethnic group as you are and double bad when it is done by a white writer who therefore is oppressing people. The writer also complained that the book had a bit of text written in Hebrew but it was TRANSLATED later into Finnish. This was a horrible crime because to the it meant that "people who understand both Hebrew and Finnish" aren't considered a good enough target group for writing a book only for them... They also complained that being a Jewish person who suffered from anorexia (like the main character of the book) it is horrible that a white person turns this very interesting character into a tool of oppression by writing about it even though they are a white Finn.



*Apparently the term comes from the fact that "human races" do not exist and those are a tool of oppression that was created by the WHITE people (and because you gotta have hypocrisy white people are always referred to as a separate race.) and therefore "racialized" (rodullistettu in Finnish) is used as a term much like "Persons of Colour" is used by SJWs from USA.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: SCarpelan on February 09, 2016, 06:47:06 am
*Apparently the term comes from the fact that "human races" do not exist and those are a tool of oppression that was created by the WHITE people (and because you gotta have hypocrisy white people are always referred to as a separate race.) and therefore "racialized" (rodullistettu in Finnish) is used as a term much like "Persons of Colour" is used by SJWs from USA.
Huh? I was under the impression that rodullistettu/racialized means that the people see a person of a different ethnicity more as a representative of their "race" than as an individual. Then again, I've only encountered the term a couple of times and that's the way I interpreted the meaning from the context, not an actual definition.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on February 09, 2016, 07:33:59 am
That was how it was explained to me but getting a definition is not easy because asking questions is a bannable offense in feminist groups. "What did I do wrong?" *permaban* "It's not our job to educate you. You should have known what you did."
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: SCarpelan on February 09, 2016, 08:05:55 am
Hmm... Parsing through the explanation given to you it is pretty much a more radical way of expressing the interpretation I made.

As a side note: I once read an opinion by a Finnish geneticist who claimed that if you want to divide humans into races as defined in genetics you'd actually get several racial groups inside Africa and all the people outside Africa would be a single race. Besides sounding logical due to our species being from Africa I have no idea how accurate this actually is, though.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on February 09, 2016, 08:49:21 am
I've heard the same story. Another fun fact, genetically speaking the closest ethnic group to the Saami are Berbers. Who live in Africa.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 09, 2016, 04:03:11 pm
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So women can run around naked with "Doesn't Mean Rape Me" across their chest but a man can't show his dick? The hypocrisy.
About a guy exposing himself at an anti-rape rally.

Well... Women also expose themselves at some anti-rape rallies...
1. Women show there nipples at anti rape rallies, the point being to de-Sexualize female mammaries as well as to make a statement about consent
2. It's not common practice for people to blame guys for getting raped because they had a prominent crotch bulge
3. The guy was clearly attempting to harass the women, not make a political statement.

Gotta say, your second statement is... pretty ignorant.  There is victim-blaming regarding male rape, mostly using the "logic" of "he had an erection, he must've wanted it."

Also, I'd like a link to the event.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on February 09, 2016, 04:18:31 pm
Except Lizard didn't say "male rape victims never get victimblamed", they said "male rape victims don't commonly get victimblamed for dressing in a specific way".
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ironchew on February 09, 2016, 04:59:01 pm
Gotta say, your second statement is... pretty ignorant.

(http://i.imgur.com/NRDK9Y1.jpg)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Eiki-mun on February 09, 2016, 05:05:23 pm
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So women can run around naked with "Doesn't Mean Rape Me" across their chest but a man can't show his dick? The hypocrisy.
About a guy exposing himself at an anti-rape rally.

Well... Women also expose themselves at some anti-rape rallies...
1. Women show there nipples at anti rape rallies, the point being to de-Sexualize female mammaries as well as to make a statement about consent
2. It's not common practice for people to blame guys for getting raped because they had a prominent crotch bulge
3. The guy was clearly attempting to harass the women, not make a political statement.

Gotta say, your second statement is... pretty ignorant.  There is victim-blaming regarding male rape, mostly using the "logic" of "he had an erection, he must've wanted it."

Also, I'd like a link to the event.

There is no such thing as victim-blaming men for dressing too provocatively, which is what Lizard was talking about.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 09, 2016, 05:14:37 pm
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So women can run around naked with "Doesn't Mean Rape Me" across their chest but a man can't show his dick? The hypocrisy.
About a guy exposing himself at an anti-rape rally.

Well... Women also expose themselves at some anti-rape rallies...
1. Women show there nipples at anti rape rallies, the point being to de-Sexualize female mammaries as well as to make a statement about consent
2. It's not common practice for people to blame guys for getting raped because they had a prominent crotch bulge
3. The guy was clearly attempting to harass the women, not make a political statement.

Gotta say, your second statement is... pretty ignorant.  There is victim-blaming regarding male rape, mostly using the "logic" of "he had an erection, he must've wanted it."

Also, I'd like a link to the event.

There is no such thing as victim-blaming men for dressing too provocatively, which is what Lizard was talking about.

"No such thing?"  Yeah, I'm sure it's a lot rarer, but I seriously doubt that it never happens.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: mellenORL on February 09, 2016, 05:20:47 pm
Oh great let's parse that one down to the electron scan micro scale...
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 09, 2016, 05:22:26 pm
Oh great let's parse that one down to the electron scan micro scale...

What can I say?  I'm pedantic.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ironchew on February 09, 2016, 05:57:48 pm
Oh great let's parse that one down to the electron scan micro scale...

What can I say?  I'm pedantic.

"Spin doctor" is closer to the correct term.

You're looking for ammo to use against feminists and you think you've found some.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: dpareja on February 09, 2016, 06:36:34 pm
Oh great let's parse that one down to the electron scan micro scale...

What can I say?  I'm pedantic.

"Spin doctor" is closer to the correct term.

You're looking for ammo to use against feminists and you think you've found some.

No, he can't be, he's a feminist, remember?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 09, 2016, 08:31:16 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/EjJopdb.jpg)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: rookie on February 09, 2016, 08:44:06 pm
Oh great let's parse that one down to the electron scan micro scale...

What can I say?  I'm pedantic.

What you can say is a recognition that isn't pedantic but a lot closer to ignorant. You do understand that something can have such a miniscule chance of probability that for a practical purpose you can call it an impossibility without having to qualify said miniscule probability. You know this, yet made your comment. And went for flippant afterwards. To put it in shorthand, ignorant. Knock it off.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 09, 2016, 08:53:26 pm
Oh great let's parse that one down to the electron scan micro scale...

What can I say?  I'm pedantic.

What you can say is a recognition that isn't pedantic but a lot closer to ignorant. You do understand that something can have such a miniscule chance of probability that for a practical purpose you can call it an impossibility without having to qualify said miniscule probability. You know this, yet made your comment. And went for flippant afterwards. To put it in shorthand, ignorant. Knock it off.

Don't be a dick.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: rookie on February 09, 2016, 08:57:33 pm
Chuckle.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 09, 2016, 09:16:54 pm
I will point out I specified common practice.

Fair enough.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Svata on February 09, 2016, 09:32:42 pm
Oh great let's parse that one down to the electron scan micro scale...

What can I say?  I'm pedantic.

What you can say is a recognition that isn't pedantic but a lot closer to ignorant. You do understand that something can have such a miniscule chance of probability that for a practical purpose you can call it an impossibility without having to qualify said miniscule probability. You know this, yet made your comment. And went for flippant afterwards. To put it in shorthand, ignorant. Knock it off.

Don't be a dick.


Pot, meet the fucking kettle.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: rookie on February 10, 2016, 12:21:52 am
That was the joke, Svata. He's telling other people not to be a dick despite past behavior. I thought it was funny, UP. Certainly warranted the chuckle I gave it.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: niam2023 on February 10, 2016, 12:30:48 am
I will point out I specified common practice.

Fair enough.

Do you mean fair as in you are saying therefore that Rookie and or Lizard is fair of face aka calling them handsome and or beautiful or are you saying fair enough as in specifying the definition of fair as in a clear and impartial judgement being made, or did you mean fair as in an admission of defeat within the context of the argument?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Svata on February 10, 2016, 01:45:12 am
That was the joke, Svata. He's telling other people not to be a dick despite past behavior. I thought it was funny, UP. Certainly warranted the chuckle I gave it.


Oh, ok. Given his obtuseness on matters before, I missed that. Carry on.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 13, 2016, 10:53:58 am
Here's some red pill dumbassery:

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Not pussyfooting around this one. Title is literal.

If anything could ever be classified as a Feminist's Nightmare, it's the irreconcilable notion that women are extremely aroused at the thought of being able to make a high value man so lustful that he loses control and has to have her. Many women have struggled with this concept. Some have cleverly come up with positive terminology to deflect from the dissonance; they'll use terms like "ravishment" to doll it up, as if simply assigning a new word takes away from the reality of what's going on.

Here in TRP we do not shy from these realities. What goes through a woman's head when she contemplates being ravished is that she is of such high SMV that men lose their control just to have her. This is a level of validation few women get to truly experience. The male equivalent would be a pair of beautiful women demanding that you have a threesome with them.

I've no doubt this type of post causes SJW's to froth at the mouth, but their impotent rage doesn't invalidate reality. Consider the success of 50 Shades of Grey. The basic synopsis is that a powerful, rich, alpha man completely lusts and forcefully dominates a perfectly boring average woman. You'd think this banal concept would only sell to a fringe that gets off on this kink, but the book sold 70 million copies in 8 months. That's more than any Harry Potter novel. And now that the movie is out I guarantee it will be a box-office hit. Let women scream and "Wow, just wow" at you all they want -- their words mean nothing in relation to their actions. Women want to be taken by force by a high value man.

So when is it rape instead of ravishment? Aside from obvious cases of drugging someone or having sex with the unconscious (for the feminazi retards: No one here condones these instances of legitimate rape) the difference is strictly in the disparity of your SMV's. The stranger-in-the-bush is often characterized as some seedy low-life thug. This evokes intense fear. Being forcefully held down in bed by the muscular CEO of a Fortune 500 company does not evoke this fear. No woman alive is comfortable by the idea that she enjoys rape, so she needs to reframe it. Be aware of that.

So how does the average TRP'er benefit from this? If you're already sexually active with a woman, discuss the concept of a safeword. Even though women love the idea of being taken, there's always the chance that she may be in one of those emotional frames where she genuinely isn't up for sex, this is a failsafe. Once you've established that, next time you're looking to sexually escalate simply ignore her token attempts to refuse. She turns her lips away from a kiss, you force her against a wall and take it. She tries to push you off, you squeeze her. You grab her and throw her onto the bed, then lay into her with your weight so she can't get away. And so on.

Paradoxically this creates intense arousal and pair-bonding in women. I encourage you to try this. Of all the women I've had sex with only ~5% genuinely hated rough, aggressive sex. The other 95% beg for more afterwards. Surprising how many victims offer to make food and drink after their "trauma".

I wouldn't be surprised if this asshole was on an FBI watchlist.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Iosa the Invincible on February 16, 2016, 12:50:39 am
So, I watch an urban explorer called Adam the Woo, and he posted a video a month ago about his breakup with his girlfriend.  While the majority of comments are good and uplifting, I came across these gems:

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I was very let down when a girl i loved married a much older man in his 40's and she is in her early 30's. He is more educated then i am and as a high paying job at a hospital.  Life is unfair sometimes.

Sounds like she was more interested in money than love.

most women are programmed that way - looks and age don't matter, it's the bank balance that matters!

[First Commenter]

That is what gets them hated so much to.

. . .

She was a single parent and had a lot of work load. I suppose i couldn't give her what that older guy can give her. Who had a high paying job at a hospital. They both worked at the same hospital. He must be a boss or something.


I agree, I hate most women. Most women are pure cunts, even women don't like being friends with other women, most jealous nasty creatures in the world.. Thank fuck my wife is one of the good ones!

I'm sorry, but it sounds like he wasn't even in a relationship with this girl, and is just pissed that she didn't fall for a Nice Guy like him.   It doesn't help that further down, I found a couple guys promoting MGTOW and suggesting that Adam watch their videos because "they will help you out".  It kind of puts the above comments into perspective, even if they were from different guys.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 18, 2016, 04:56:38 pm
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Sweden desperately needs a Holocaust to cleanse itself of poz like feminism and multiculturalism.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: SCarpelan on February 24, 2016, 12:05:29 am
I pointed out to someone in Facebook that the news article he linked had a flawed analysis of the study it discussed. In the following discussion a friend of his made this interesting statement (translated from Finnish):

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[My name], studies have been published forever. Scientific community evaluates them in one way or other. Nowadays peer review has entered the humanities not least because it is part of the scoring and funding system.

Issues about society and for example history are luckily still published as just books. Peer review is not always a superior apparatus. In my opinion [it] fits better to natural sciences due to their exact nature.

I started this particular discussion trying to keep it very limited and have no energy to lengthy and involved debates. Sigh. Now if I want to make my point clear I have to first establish the necessity of peer review for someone who is apparently a prime example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

Edit: Fuck. I wonder why I always pick up my grammatical errors after only after posting despite using the preview.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on February 24, 2016, 02:23:40 pm
Spoilered because I still don't know how to easily adjust the size of images.
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 24, 2016, 03:42:47 pm
Spoilered because I still don't know how to easily adjust the size of images.
(click to show/hide)

Think this fits better in WoSJ.

Also, have you tried tinypic?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Sylvana on February 25, 2016, 07:34:14 am
I think the final reply said it best: "We are done being friends now."
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: niam2023 on February 25, 2016, 09:21:51 pm
Awaiting a certain angry post...

Well in my opinion, this shows just how clique-ish some of the parts of the fat acceptance movement can be. I fully support anyone actively trying to lose weight - its the people who say things like Diabetes / heart disease is NOT connected to weight who are promoting an unhealthy idea.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: The_Queen on February 25, 2016, 09:27:23 pm
Awaiting a certain angry post...

Well in my opinion, this shows just how clique-ish some of the parts of the fat acceptance movement can be. I fully support anyone actively trying to lose weight - its the people who say things like Diabetes / heart disease is NOT connected to weight who are promoting an unhealthy idea.

Dude, you are like, so edgy.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: niam2023 on February 26, 2016, 12:02:31 am
Awaiting a certain angry post...

Well in my opinion, this shows just how clique-ish some of the parts of the fat acceptance movement can be. I fully support anyone actively trying to lose weight - its the people who say things like Diabetes / heart disease is NOT connected to weight who are promoting an unhealthy idea.

Dude, you are like, so edgy.

This post kind of strikes me as an utter non sequitur.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: mellenORL on February 26, 2016, 08:27:20 am
I'm indifferent whether people are trying to lose weight or not; nunnamuhbidniss.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 26, 2016, 03:58:48 pm
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dear Black Tumblr
You did not come first.
You did not invent the wheel.
You did not invent the concept of eating food.
You are not God’s gift to the universe.
You are not better than white people or any people, period.
Yes, their is prejudice and racism. But you do not have the right to decide what that is.
You are 50 times more racist than any KKK organization I’ve heard crop up in the past few years. At least I don’t hear them talking about lynching black people in the streets, while black Twitter and Tumblr are always talking about how they want to kill all white people violently and repulsively.
MLK would be ashamed of you.
You did not invent dreadlocks. Hair tangles, and people of hundreds of different cultures and races were using it LONG before you idiots even became the sperms that won. Quit acting like you know everything just because seeing the hairstyle on white people rustles your jimmies.
The police are NOT targeting you. Fight against the mentally disturbed officers and leave the decent ones alone.
Your stupid kids couldn’t go to school and eat during the riots. Remember who started those riots? YOU.
When you’re crowding up malls and blocking highways and airports, you are putting black lives and everyone else’s lives in danger. What if there was a black person who needed to get to work or to a business meeting, but couldn’t because you people thought pushing your agenda was more important than letting people go about their lives? What if he got fired because of it?
Your “black lives matter” argument falls a bit flat when you’re inconveniencing the people you’re so violently trying to protect.
Your individual shade of brown does NOT make you fucking superior to someone else with a different shade of brown. You are pathetic.
And finally, your mothers did not carry you for nine months for you to turn into very thing the people of her time fought to prevent.
Fuck. Off.

Some of these statements aren't so bad in and of themselves.  However, implying that black people on Tumblr are some kind of hive mind is unfortunate, to say the least.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on February 27, 2016, 07:48:37 am
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dear Black Tumblr
You did not come first.
You did not invent the wheel.
You did not invent the concept of eating food.
You are not God’s gift to the universe.
You are not better than white people or any people, period.
Yes, their is prejudice and racism. But you do not have the right to decide what that is.
You are 50 times more racist than any KKK organization I’ve heard crop up in the past few years. At least I don’t hear them talking about lynching black people in the streets, while black Twitter and Tumblr are always talking about how they want to kill all white people violently and repulsively.
MLK would be ashamed of you.
You did not invent dreadlocks. Hair tangles, and people of hundreds of different cultures and races were using it LONG before you idiots even became the sperms that won. Quit acting like you know everything just because seeing the hairstyle on white people rustles your jimmies.
The police are NOT targeting you. Fight against the mentally disturbed officers and leave the decent ones alone.
Your stupid kids couldn’t go to school and eat during the riots. Remember who started those riots? YOU.
When you’re crowding up malls and blocking highways and airports, you are putting black lives and everyone else’s lives in danger. What if there was a black person who needed to get to work or to a business meeting, but couldn’t because you people thought pushing your agenda was more important than letting people go about their lives? What if he got fired because of it?
Your “black lives matter” argument falls a bit flat when you’re inconveniencing the people you’re so violently trying to protect.
Your individual shade of brown does NOT make you fucking superior to someone else with a different shade of brown. You are pathetic.
And finally, your mothers did not carry you for nine months for you to turn into very thing the people of her time fought to prevent.
Fuck. Off.

Some of these statements aren't so bad in and of themselves.  However, implying that black people on Tumblr are some kind of hive mind is unfortunate, to say the least.
Eh, I couldn't give a rats arse who invented dreadlocks but the BLM movement seems to be definitely on to something about the tendency of US police officers to disproportionately shoot black people (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreadlocks#Judaism_and_Christianity).

Also, whatever else that individual said they pre judge black kids to be stupid as a given so it renders the rest of their screed moot.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on February 27, 2016, 08:40:01 am
Also, has anyone ever unironically stated that black people invented the concept of eating food?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 27, 2016, 10:33:25 am
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dear Black Tumblr
You did not come first.
You did not invent the wheel.
You did not invent the concept of eating food.
You are not God’s gift to the universe.
You are not better than white people or any people, period.
Yes, their is prejudice and racism. But you do not have the right to decide what that is.
You are 50 times more racist than any KKK organization I’ve heard crop up in the past few years. At least I don’t hear them talking about lynching black people in the streets, while black Twitter and Tumblr are always talking about how they want to kill all white people violently and repulsively.
MLK would be ashamed of you.
You did not invent dreadlocks. Hair tangles, and people of hundreds of different cultures and races were using it LONG before you idiots even became the sperms that won. Quit acting like you know everything just because seeing the hairstyle on white people rustles your jimmies.
The police are NOT targeting you. Fight against the mentally disturbed officers and leave the decent ones alone.
Your stupid kids couldn’t go to school and eat during the riots. Remember who started those riots? YOU.
When you’re crowding up malls and blocking highways and airports, you are putting black lives and everyone else’s lives in danger. What if there was a black person who needed to get to work or to a business meeting, but couldn’t because you people thought pushing your agenda was more important than letting people go about their lives? What if he got fired because of it?
Your “black lives matter” argument falls a bit flat when you’re inconveniencing the people you’re so violently trying to protect.
Your individual shade of brown does NOT make you fucking superior to someone else with a different shade of brown. You are pathetic.
And finally, your mothers did not carry you for nine months for you to turn into very thing the people of her time fought to prevent.
Fuck. Off.

Some of these statements aren't so bad in and of themselves.  However, implying that black people on Tumblr are some kind of hive mind is unfortunate, to say the least.
Eh, I couldn't give a rats arse who invented dreadlocks but the BLM movement seems to be definitely on to something about the tendency of US police officers to disproportionately shoot black people (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreadlocks#Judaism_and_Christianity).

Also, whatever else that individual said they pre judge black kids to be stupid as a given so it renders the rest of their screed moot.

You're right on both counts.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Iosa the Invincible on February 27, 2016, 02:34:44 pm
Also, has anyone ever unironically stated that black people invented the concept of eating food?

The first thing that I thought of was the concept that cooking and/or eating certain foods counted as "cultural appropriation", but I don't know if that's what's being referenced here.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Zygarde on February 27, 2016, 02:42:55 pm
How is eating food cultural appropriation? If I go to China and eat food with a Chinese family am I appropriating their culture cause I decided to be a diner guest? I swear sometimes the cultural appropriation crowed don't understand how shit works.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Art Vandelay on February 27, 2016, 03:54:52 pm
How is eating food cultural appropriation? If I go to China and eat food with a Chinese family am I appropriating their culture cause I decided to be a diner guest? I swear sometimes the cultural appropriation crowed don't understand how shit works.
Yes. In fact, if you ever even think about doing a thing that people from a different culture also do, then you're a terrible person, and you should die.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: pyro on February 27, 2016, 06:11:57 pm
How is eating food cultural appropriation? If I go to China and eat food with a Chinese family am I appropriating their culture cause I decided to be a diner guest? I swear sometimes the cultural appropriation crowed don't understand how shit works.

That's not what cultural appropriation is. Cultural appropriation is going home afterwards and cooking it yourself.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on February 27, 2016, 06:35:12 pm
How is eating food cultural appropriation? If I go to China and eat food with a Chinese family am I appropriating their culture cause I decided to be a diner guest? I swear sometimes the cultural appropriation crowed don't understand how shit works.

That's not what cultural appropriation is. Cultural appropriation is going home afterwards and cooking it yourself.
So if you're like me that leaves chilli con carne, pasta, stir fried noodles, pizza and rice off the menu.

Also potatoes and tomatoes as they're originally South American.

So that leaves...bread, I guess? Is multigrain ok?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: solar. on February 27, 2016, 07:26:49 pm
I can think of exactly ONE example of cultural appropriation being a valid concern: People who aren't Native Americans wearing Native American war bonnets.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that is the ONE instance where the culture people would be "appropriating" from would actually have a legit problem with it.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Art Vandelay on February 27, 2016, 08:24:06 pm
I can think of exactly ONE example of cultural appropriation being a valid concern: People who aren't Native Americans wearing Native American war bonnets.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that is the ONE instance where the culture people would be "appropriating" from would actually have a legit problem with it.
Even that, I wouldn't take seriously. At the end of the day, it's just a fucking hat. Just because one group thinks it's sacred does not mean everyone else is obligated to treat it as such.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on February 27, 2016, 09:40:47 pm
I can think of exactly ONE example of cultural appropriation being a valid concern: People who aren't Native Americans wearing Native American war bonnets.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that is the ONE instance where the culture people would be "appropriating" from would actually have a legit problem with it.
Even that, I wouldn't take seriously. At the end of the day, it's just a fucking hat. Just because one group thinks it's sacred does not mean everyone else is obligated to treat it as such.
I think it's more the memories of genocide and how that was made light of in cowboys and indians films filled with extras wearing said hats than the magic powers hats per se that rustles peoples jimmies, and that is a more legit thing to get steamed up about.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Delirium on February 27, 2016, 10:38:04 pm
TIL flat earth theory is an subversive act against the evil Jewish conspiracy and White Genocide™ (http://archive.is/jmyTi).
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Eiki-mun on February 27, 2016, 11:10:52 pm

Some of these statements aren't so bad in and of themselves.  However, implying that black people on Tumblr are some kind of hive mind is unfortunate, to say the least.
Eh, I couldn't give a rats arse who invented dreadlocks but the BLM movement seems to be definitely on to something about the tendency of US police officers to disproportionately shoot black people (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreadlocks#Judaism_and_Christianity).

Also, whatever else that individual said they pre judge black kids to be stupid as a given so it renders the rest of their screed moot.
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Um, does the link go to what you intend it to go to? Because if so, the link seems misplaced. Quoting the wrong text and all that.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on February 27, 2016, 11:50:19 pm


Some of these statements aren't so bad in and of themselves.  However, implying that black people on Tumblr are some kind of hive mind is unfortunate, to say the least.
Eh, I couldn't give a rats arse who invented dreadlocks but the BLM movement seems to be definitely on to something about the tendency of US police officers to disproportionately shoot black people (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreadlocks#Judaism_and_Christianity).

Also, whatever else that individual said they pre judge black kids to be stupid as a given so it renders the rest of their screed moot.
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Um, does the link go to what you intend it to go to? Because if so, the link seems misplaced. Quoting the wrong text and all that.
[/quote]Holy balls, wrong link.

Well that was a train wreck, here's the link that isn't about ancient dreadlocks. (http://www.mintpressnews.com/776-people-killed-by-police-so-far-in-2015-161-of-them-unarmed/209127/)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on February 28, 2016, 12:33:49 am
How is eating food cultural appropriation? If I go to China and eat food with a Chinese family am I appropriating their culture cause I decided to be a diner guest? I swear sometimes the cultural appropriation crowed don't understand how shit works.

I quick search found several people complaining about cultural appropriation and food. (I think we had a few of these either in here or worst of SJ thread)

(http://i.imgur.com/RpgEKV5.png)

http://everydayfeminism.com/2015/11/foodie-without-appropriation/

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/12/the-food-fight-at-oberlin-college/421401/

https://spoonuniversity.com/news/why-cultural-appropriation-of-food-is-offensive/


I can think of exactly ONE example of cultural appropriation being a valid concern: People who aren't Native Americans wearing Native American war bonnets.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that is the ONE instance where the culture people would be "appropriating" from would actually have a legit problem with it.

Similarly I've seen Sami people complain about cultural appropriation (well, they rarely use that exact term but the make the same point) when people use bits of their clothing to advertise something. Like a university in Helsinki making up an ad where a student wore something that looked a bit like the traditional Sami costumes but also had weird makeup around the eyes and reindeer horns stuck to her head. And another time when a Finnish contestant in a beauty contest abroad wore a Sami costume which had been bought from a masquerade store. They are very strict about who gets to call themselves Sami and are annoyed that when Finns like to appear more "ethnic" or something they take bits of the Sami culture without really understanding it or bothering to study it. It really is unfair when someone just looks at an actual culture as a piece of prop to be used for fun.

...Soo I actually do think that this particular complaint and the similar ones have a good point.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on February 28, 2016, 01:06:48 am
How is eating food cultural appropriation? If I go to China and eat food with a Chinese family am I appropriating their culture cause I decided to be a diner guest? I swear sometimes the cultural appropriation crowed don't understand how shit works.

I quick search found several people complaining about cultural appropriation and food. (I think we had a few of these either in here or worst of SJ thread)

(http://i.imgur.com/RpgEKV5.png)

I honestly hate the attitude of "oh, if it's not causing a literal apocalypse then it's not a problem whatsoever". If I shit on someone's front porch, then yeah, I'm not stabbing them in the eye with a knife, but I've still shat on their porch.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: RavynousHunter on February 28, 2016, 01:15:37 am
ET, eating westernized Chinese food isn't gonna kill anyone.  Crackers eating non-cracker food isn't a problem.  We all need food, we all eat food.  Getting pissy because Blair Whitebread made some sushi with lunchmeat is like complaining that a fly flew on your perfectly manicured lawn, causing a blade of grass to droop a single micron, thereby fundamentally altering the balance of the entire continent.  Its a ludicrous overreaction to a complete non-issue.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Art Vandelay on February 28, 2016, 01:38:18 am
I honestly hate the attitude of "oh, if it's not causing a literal apocalypse then it's not a problem whatsoever". If I shit on someone's front porch, then yeah, I'm not stabbing them in the eye with a knife, but I've still shat on their porch.
So, do you mean to imply that white people eating food from non-white cultures is in fact a bad thing, or are you just annoyed by reasoning rather than the conclusion?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on February 28, 2016, 02:36:26 am
The latter.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Art Vandelay on February 28, 2016, 02:39:17 am
Ah, cool beans.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ironchew on February 28, 2016, 02:41:12 am
How is eating food cultural appropriation? If I go to China and eat food with a Chinese family am I appropriating their culture cause I decided to be a diner guest? I swear sometimes the cultural appropriation crowed don't understand how shit works.

I quick search found several people complaining about cultural appropriation and food. (I think we had a few of these either in here or worst of SJ thread)

(http://i.imgur.com/RpgEKV5.png)

I honestly hate the attitude of "oh, if it's not causing a literal apocalypse then it's not a problem whatsoever". If I shit on someone's front porch, then yeah, I'm not stabbing them in the eye with a knife, but I've still shat on their porch.

So I could give a shit and restrict myself to northern European cuisine only, or I could not give a shit and still put Hatch green chile on everything.

Yeah, something tells me the noble struggle against cultural appropriation is losing this fight.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: RavynousHunter on February 28, 2016, 10:04:21 am
I dunno how I'd live without Mexican, or even just TexMex, spices.  Try and take my chili powder or jalapenos from me, and I will gut you like a fish with my ceramic chef's knife.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: pyro on February 29, 2016, 12:38:17 am
Yeah, good luck convincing me to avoid ghost peppers and safron and coconut and jalapeño and...
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: RavynousHunter on February 29, 2016, 07:20:08 am
Aah, bhut jolokia.  Nice, smoky flavour and packs a punch that could have Saitama on his knees.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Skybison on February 29, 2016, 04:03:34 pm
Some comments on a john Oliver video about Donald Trump Drumpf

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You liberal fuckheads.  Fuck the liberal elite.  These pieces of shit in the disgraceful media just proves Trump right.  Get used to President Trump you asshats!  Comrade Sanders is finished, and polls show Trump defeating Shillary the criminal by a wide margin.

GET USED TO TRUMP IN THE WHITE HOUSE BITHCES!!

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wow, the liberal media is really getting desperate. a whole entire
episode that looks like it went back 30+ years of investigation to
attack Trump.
Donald Trump 2016!...........,.,.,.

Yeah, how dare the media point out that his business record over the last few decades is actually pretty bad.  How does that matter when he runs for president?

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trump supporters are a lot smarter than bernie supporters.  how do I know this?  because smart people become successful people and advocate free market economics.

if liberals were so smart, they would run their own businesses or have good jobs! they wouldn't rely on the wealthy for public services and support, they wouldn't need a minimum wage increase.  most of them work a series of low wage, unskilled jobs.

As someone who's done several years hard time in retail, fuck you.  I hate it when people decide that poor = stupid.  How wealthy you are has more to do with whether or not you can get a small loan of a million dollars from your dad then being smart.

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Brits bend over backwards for Muslims and covered up a Muslim rape ring because they were afraid of being called racist, fuck them.

calling muslims terrorists and illegal immigrants rapists, drug dealers, and murderers is not racist, its the truth.  you politically corect obama drones have fucked this country for the past 8 years with your black lives matter bullshit and thug worshipping.  its time to be real again.

Okay that's about as much as I can handle right now.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: mellenORL on February 29, 2016, 05:46:22 pm
YouTube comments tend to be the worst, yup. Lotta dumb fucks.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Vinroke on February 29, 2016, 09:20:52 pm
people read YT comments? ...what the fuck for?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 29, 2016, 09:24:49 pm
people read YT comments? ...what the fuck for?

Maybe it's because they hope to find a diamond in the rough.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Skybison on February 29, 2016, 09:29:00 pm
A combination of boredom and morbid curiosity?

PS here's from noted ethics journalist Milo Yiannopoulos

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If you are a KKK supporter and you want race hate and segregation, your best bet today is to support Black Lives Matter.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Vinroke on February 29, 2016, 10:42:04 pm
people read YT comments? ...what the fuck for?

Maybe it's because they hope to find a diamond in the rough.

I've never really understood that phrase. We can make diamonds, if you want one so bad just go make one.

A combination of boredom and morbid curiosity?

PS here's from noted ethics journalist Milo Yiannopoulos

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If you are a KKK supporter and you want race hate and segregation, your best bet today is to support Black Lives Matter.

the more I hear of that guy, the more I think that the people listening to him have been lobotomized or something
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 29, 2016, 10:48:46 pm
I kinda have a love-hate relationship with Milo.  Some things about him I like and respect, but others I find... eesh.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Vinroke on February 29, 2016, 11:07:40 pm
He's an intellectually dishonest shit-stirrer who goes into full professional victim mode whenever anyone calls him on his bullshit, what's to like?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Eiki-mun on February 29, 2016, 11:18:13 pm
He's an intellectually dishonest shit-stirrer who goes into full professional victim mode whenever anyone calls him on his bullshit, what's to like?

I like his hair.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on March 01, 2016, 12:30:18 am
Honestly, Youtube comments aren't necessarily bad. It all depends what kind of video it is. Look at some lets play and there's fans talking about the game or the person making the videos, look at video that has political or religious stuff on it and the comments are wharrhrgargble and flame wars.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on March 01, 2016, 12:48:02 am
Kind of depends on if it's a polarising topic doesn't it?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: niam2023 on March 01, 2016, 02:29:41 am
He's an intellectually dishonest shit-stirrer who goes into full professional victim mode whenever anyone calls him on his bullshit, what's to like?

I like his hair.

Agreed - I wish I had a curly looking charcoal black hairmop like that.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Delirium on March 01, 2016, 11:31:26 am
He's an intellectually dishonest shit-stirrer who goes into full professional victim mode whenever anyone calls him on his bullshit, what's to like?

His article about buying a Mariah Carey CD was unintentionally hilarious and pathetic.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on March 01, 2016, 11:53:36 am
His last name's cool sounding.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Skybison on March 05, 2016, 09:35:53 pm
Okay, so I'm reading We Hunted The Mammoth, and discover that Pick-up artist and White Supremacist Heartiste has written what might be both the worst and best thing ever written about Donald Trump:

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If Trump is beginning to play defense, at this early stage, he risks losing his lead. …

Any feints Trump makes towards the Nation-Wrecking Alliance, such as support (however tepid) for H-1Bs, or constant disavowals of some internet backwater weirdo because media cucks harass him about it every minute, will simply embolden his foes to strike at him twice as hard and four times as often.

So my Game advice to Trump is this: Politics is pickup without the bodily fluids.

The master seducer doesn’t backtrack at the bedroom door.

Keep up the Zero Fucks Given nationalist populism charm assault, and don’t disappoint the swooning voters at the electoral door. Carry them across the threshold. They want you to take them.

Sure, whisper a few sweetly romantic nothings in their ears, show a little of your beta softie side, but when panties are in view don’t sit up and ask “Should I slow down?”. Slip a finger under the waistband. The seduction isn’t over until the Trump voter sighs.

Yes, you did just read that.  An mra neo nazi just said he wants Trump to seduce him and take off his panties.   You're welcome for that mental image.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: pyro on March 06, 2016, 12:31:59 am
The scary part is that he doesn't seem that far off. No backtracking, no compromise seems to be working out for him.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Canadian Mojo on March 06, 2016, 09:41:17 am
The scary part is that he doesn't seem that far off. No backtracking, no compromise seems to be working out for him.

The sad part is that this is a (reasonably) viable strategy. It demonstrates the increasingly obvious fact that democracies only function properly when built around a well educated and well informed populace.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Iosa the Invincible on March 06, 2016, 02:13:47 pm
The scary part is that he doesn't seem that far off. No backtracking, no compromise seems to be working out for him.

The sad part is that this is a (reasonably) viable strategy. It demonstrates the increasingly obvious fact that democracies only function properly when built around a well educated and well informed populace.

Now you just made me think of that political ad that's going around of Trump saying "I love the poorly educated".
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 06, 2016, 02:47:19 pm
The scary part is that he doesn't seem that far off. No backtracking, no compromise seems to be working out for him.

The sad part is that this is a (reasonably) viable strategy. It demonstrates the increasingly obvious fact that democracies only function properly when built around a well educated and well informed populace.

Now you just made me think of that political ad that's going around of Trump saying "I love the poorly educated".

Wait, he actually said that?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: SCarpelan on March 06, 2016, 03:03:20 pm
After the Nevada primary he listed the groups among whom he won and when he mentioned the poorly educated he added that he loves them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXiK9xas7KU
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 06, 2016, 07:38:52 pm
Speaking of the poorly educated:

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lol I consider myself a moderate nazi (i agree with pretty much all of hitlers pre-holocaust ideas, many of which deal with the function of politics in society and exposing the dangers of having idiots ruling over people). Id love to see any of them try to fight anyone else outside a videogame.

edit: so because people are obviously brainwashed by Zionist media (which most non-Zionist jews hate) I should explain that I do not hate jews nor do I harbor ill will toward anyone based on race. I simply disagree with the false history that takes for granted peoples lives that have died for their cause. the Nazi government was simply WRONG. they were using meth and all sorts of other things that eliminate emotion and empathy. the holocaust happened, but the way it is portrayed in modern "history" is far from the truth. everyone ignores the soviets and japanese, who were much worse than Nazi's ever were.

The thing that really tipped this over the edge for me was the phrase "moderate Nazi."
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ironchew on March 06, 2016, 08:10:23 pm
The thing that really tipped this over the edge for me was the phrase "moderate Nazi."

You don't think there were any moderate Nazis out there? My guess is they far outnumbered the extremists.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: davedan on March 06, 2016, 08:39:35 pm
As dirty as it makes me feel I can't jump on UP for this one. Since WWII Nazis have become a virtual byword for extremism. Mostly because of the holocaust. Attempting genocide is a pretty extreme position. Unlike many who might claim to be moderate Nazis, the particular poster, appears to acknowledge that the holocaust occurred. Nor do they condemn it, in fact they implicitly endorse it.

I think its hard to consider yourself a moderate if you support the genocide of jews, gypsies and homosexuals in continental Europe.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ironchew on March 06, 2016, 08:45:59 pm
As dirty as it makes me feel I can't jump on UP for this one. Since WWII Nazis have become a virtual byword for extremism. Mostly because of the holocaust. Attempting genocide is a pretty extreme position. Unlike many who might claim to be moderate Nazis, the particular poster, appears to acknowledge that the holocaust occurred. Nor do they condemn it, in fact they implicitly endorse it.

I think its hard to consider yourself a moderate if you support the genocide of jews, gypsies and homosexuals in continental Europe.

But the moderate Nazis would say they didn't have anything to do with that -- that it was the violent extremists who went that far.

Surely you aren't implying a moderate majority with a questionable core ideology would sustain a culture that enables violent extremism.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: davedan on March 06, 2016, 08:54:50 pm
I was saying that you could not claim to be a moderate Nazi without being a holocaust denier. As for the actual Nazis between 1939 and 1945 I don't think you could be a moderate Nazi if you were aware of the holocaust occurring and remained philosophically a Nazi rather than simply out of fear.

I wasn't intending to get into the questions about moderate ideologies or the fallacy of the middle ground.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Svata on March 06, 2016, 09:25:04 pm
As dirty as it makes me feel I can't jump on UP for this one. Since WWII Nazis have become a virtual byword for extremism. Mostly because of the holocaust. Attempting genocide is a pretty extreme position. Unlike many who might claim to be moderate Nazis, the particular poster, appears to acknowledge that the holocaust occurred. Nor do they condemn it, in fact they implicitly endorse it.

I think its hard to consider yourself a moderate if you support the genocide of jews, gypsies and homosexuals in continental Europe.

But the moderate Nazis would say they didn't have anything to do with that -- that it was the violent extremists who went that far.

Surely you aren't implying a moderate majority with a questionable core ideology would sustain a culture that enables violent extremism.

I see what you're doing. Stop it.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Hofstadter's Tortoise on March 06, 2016, 09:56:04 pm
Go on stormfront, theres a few moderate nazis on there, but they tend to get chewed out really quick.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Vinroke on March 07, 2016, 06:12:22 am
Go on stormfront, theres a few moderate nazis on there, but they tend to get chewed out really quick.

I'd much rather stay the fuck away from stormfront tbh

As dirty as it makes me feel I can't jump on UP for this one. Since WWII Nazis have become a virtual byword for extremism. Mostly because of the holocaust. Attempting genocide is a pretty extreme position. Unlike many who might claim to be moderate Nazis, the particular poster, appears to acknowledge that the holocaust occurred. Nor do they condemn it, in fact they implicitly endorse it.

I think its hard to consider yourself a moderate if you support the genocide of jews, gypsies and homosexuals in continental Europe.

But the moderate Nazis would say they didn't have anything to do with that -- that it was the violent extremists who went that far.

Surely you aren't implying a moderate majority with a questionable core ideology would sustain a culture that enables violent extremism.

I see what you're doing. Stop it.

Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: pyro on March 07, 2016, 03:27:17 pm
There probably were moderate Nazis, and they probably didn't know about the holocaust, thinking that the work camps were just that.

But moderates do not call themselves Nazis nowadays, unless they're holocaust deniers.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Canadian Mojo on March 07, 2016, 06:27:21 pm
Calling yourself a moderate Nazi is just trying to put a pretty face on your Hitler fanboyism. Someone who really was a moderate would just call themselves a fascist.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on March 08, 2016, 04:42:48 am
Let's be honest. The Nazis managed to do SO MUCH stuff in few short years. Opposing tobacco, promoting moderate drinking, promoting animal rights, making bogus studies that claim homosexuality is an infectious disease, Hitler's well known vegetarianism... It wasn't all Hugo Boss clothes and death camps for the Nazis.

But as far as I know their actual politics in running a country and the economy sucked. They were populists and managed to get a cult following but even without the war they would have run Germany to the ground. Saying that you like their policies in moderation is silly because the actual politics for Nazis weren't that good.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on March 08, 2016, 05:37:42 am
Go on stormfront, theres a few moderate nazis on there, but they tend to get chewed out really quick.
Absolutely fascinated by this whole "moderate Nazi" thing. Does it range from the Leni Riefenstahl's through to the Heinrich Himmler's or is it a fashion thing with Bormann on the most moderate end of the scale and Hermann Göring out in the no fucks to give about moderate Aryan fashion Nazi end?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: SCarpelan on March 08, 2016, 06:15:05 am
I've previously mentioned here that a friend of mine identifies as a Nazi and I think a moderate Nazi describes him pretty well. To put it shortly he is virulently anti-Semitic and flirts with holocaust denial but is otherwise socially fairly liberal and hates other kinds of racism - for example, he openly despises Soldiers of Odin. Also, he's openly bisexual and is apparently either in denial about the rampant homophobia among Nazis or thinks it is a distortion of the ideology. He keeps making different interpretations about the ideology to make it fit his world view and is in serious denial about Hitler's flaws. I think he does this at least partly to better troll people.

So, yeah. You can be a moderate Nazi as long as you are skilled in mental gymnastics.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on March 08, 2016, 06:34:16 am
What about the Russian Neo-Nazis who don't seem to understand that the original Nazis wouldn't have considered them Aryans or approved of their homosexuality?

http://www.vice.com/read/meet-russias-gay-aryan-skinheads-finally-bringing-homosexuality-to-the-neo-nazi-world

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Much like the Malays, minor historical details like rampant persecution and horrific genocide have apparently been forgotten by the Russians. The first such group I came across were the Gay Union of Patriots of Russia, whose members spout bizarre theories about how only gay men can be true Russian patriots.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: pyro on March 08, 2016, 10:43:24 am
Or a gay Nazi brony. (http://fstdt.com/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=112636)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: TheContrarian on March 08, 2016, 03:12:23 pm
How are you defining Nazi?

In a literal sense the last few actual nazis, moderate or otherwise, are in their 90s and steadily dying out.

Back in't day you needed party membership to get into certain professions (or at least get past the entry level in your field), so yeah there were millions of people who joined for the perks.  They don't necessarily share the crazy.

But today? You can be an average garden variety stormfag, but you'll never be a nazi...
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on March 08, 2016, 04:26:35 pm
No true Nazi?

In any case it's nothing to aspire to, if there is one thing I am happy about the whole Nazi gay skinhead thing is that it would infuriate original Nazis. Think about it a slav "untersmench" with a concentration camp hairdo wearing a Jamaican influenced outfit and bearing a crooked cross with two crossed cocks under it.

I hope the chucklefucks in the original NSDAP are spinning in their graves.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: TheContrarian on March 08, 2016, 04:40:25 pm
No true Nazi?

Hardly.  It's just that as a label it's pretty meaningless if you aren't using it within its' proper historical concept.

Not quite as annoying as people who refer to any and all authoritarian forms of government as Fascist, but it's up there.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on March 08, 2016, 10:56:54 pm
No true Nazi?

Hardly.  It's just that as a label it's pretty meaningless if you aren't using it within its' proper historical concept.

Not quite as annoying as people who refer to any and all authoritarian forms of government as Fascist, but it's up there.
I think people have been using "Nazi" to mean groups outside the defunct National Socialist German Workers' Party since that world war 2 thing wrapped up.

I suppose Nazi skins, Nazi bikers, Nazi prison gangs, Nazi posters on /pol and the American Nazi Party are neo Nazis but who the fuck cares? They dig swastikas, they hate anyone who isn't a straight, WASPish type with far right wing beliefs. Fuck 'em, they're Nazis.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 12, 2016, 09:40:24 am
While we're talking about Nazis:

(click to show/hide)

On the bright side, some of my faith in Redditors has been restored.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Dakota Bob on March 12, 2016, 02:04:16 pm
You can tell that person is a bit suspicious when they describe a starving child as an "it"
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: mellenORL on March 12, 2016, 05:49:59 pm
I'm not sure if the evidence was kept after the Nuremburg Tribunals, but it filled numerous freight train boxcars. That'd be a nice pile to plop holocaust deniers upon. Tons and tons worth of documents, photos, reports, records and ledgers compiled by Wehrmacht clerks counting the people, their personal items, and gross weight categories of valuable materials taken from camp victims. That'd be an actual Slippery Slope, trying to make you way down off a 50 foot tall pile of loose documents.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: dpareja on March 12, 2016, 06:19:37 pm
I'm not sure if the evidence was kept after the Nuremburg Tribunals, but it filled numerous freight train boxcars. That'd be a nice pile to plop holocaust deniers upon. Tons and tons worth of documents, photos, reports, records and ledgers compiled by Wehrmacht clerks counting the people, their personal items, and gross weight categories of valuable materials taken from camp victims. That'd be an actual Slippery Slope, trying to make you way down off a 50 foot tall pile of loose documents.

But it was all faked by TEH EBIL JOOS.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: mellenORL on March 12, 2016, 07:41:45 pm
I know, right? It's just an astounding body of work!

Here's a candid pic of TEH EBIL JOOS on break between sets at the Dachau-Drumpf Center during their first tour.

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*picture taken after liberation, all shown survived.






Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 14, 2016, 11:51:33 pm
(http://oi67.tinypic.com/20zwric.jpg)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: lord gibbon on March 15, 2016, 12:29:05 am
WHAT. THE. FUCK.

Is that saying what I think it's saying? Cutting yourself is fucking brave?!

I need to go hit something now.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: rookie on March 15, 2016, 12:30:04 am
Wait. That's not a pic of admitting you have a problem?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Sylvana on March 15, 2016, 04:12:27 am
Wait. That's not a pic of admitting you have a problem?
Well she has a problem, she is cutting the wrong way.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Art Vandelay on March 15, 2016, 04:28:58 am
WHAT. THE. FUCK.

Is that saying what I think it's saying? Cutting yourself is fucking brave?!

I need to go hit something now.

I read it as sarcasm, personally. Though Poe's Law is still very much a thing, so it could go either way.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on March 16, 2016, 02:30:09 am
not like fear can impair one's ability to defend oneself or anything
not like blackmail and coercion are things that can impair one's ability to defend oneself and give proper consent
not like everyone's not physically strong enough to ward off rapists
not like you can't defend yourself when you're unconscious
not like everyone doesn't have a fucking anti-rape squad on their goddamn speed dial

no no, if you were raped it was because you were too weak
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on March 16, 2016, 02:35:44 am
not like fear can impair one's ability to defend oneself or anything
not like blackmail and coercion are things that can impair one's ability to defend oneself and give proper consent
not like everyone's not physically strong enough to ward off rapists
not like you can't defend yourself when you're unconscious
not like everyone doesn't have a fucking anti-rape squad on their goddamn speed dial

no no, if you were raped it was because you were too weak

Also, the rapist could just point a gun at the victim's head and tell them that they get shot if they resist. There are simply times when resisting will get you killed and shaming the victim for not being able to fight off an army is not really constructive.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on March 16, 2016, 03:46:37 am
Oh my god that guy in Worst Political Cartoons is a goddamn goldmine. (http://lordelthibar.deviantart.com/)

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Today's feminism is practically degrading men to be dependent on women and actually giving women more rights than men. Plus it is a threat to the family and is endangering our children to be raised by the institutions instead of the family.  If they want control over pregnancy, don't have sex, it's as simple as that.

When and where the fuck has male oppression by women ever goddamn happened? And what in the shitting dick does insitutionalization have to do with feminism? Also, gotta love that "nine months of pregnancy (and implicitly 18 years of child-rearing) is something women have to accept as a price when they dare have sex, but I'm totally not a misogynist or anything" attitude.

He also writes godawful self-insert Tangled/Brave fanfic where his insert married Merida and is Eugene's brother and the narration shills Protestantism like he were getting paid for it. Just to frost that shit cake with an icing of amazingly ridiculous.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on March 17, 2016, 11:05:46 am
(http://i.imgur.com/yYZ9Fc2.jpg)

...Sometimes I am still amazed at how people can not criticize themselves or their beliefs and can miss the point even when it is shown to them as clearly as it is in pic related. I believe the word I am looking for is introspection.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Lady Evil on March 17, 2016, 04:13:48 pm
Oh my god that guy in Worst Political Cartoons is a goddamn goldmine. (http://lordelthibar.deviantart.com/)

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Today's feminism is practically degrading men to be dependent on women and actually giving women more rights than men. Plus it is a threat to the family and is endangering our children to be raised by the institutions instead of the family.  If they want control over pregnancy, don't have sex, it's as simple as that.

When and where the fuck has male oppression by women ever goddamn happened? And what in the shitting dick does insitutionalization have to do with feminism? Also, gotta love that "nine months of pregnancy (and implicitly 18 years of child-rearing) is something women have to accept as a price when they dare have sex, but I'm totally not a misogynist or anything" attitude.

He also writes godawful self-insert Tangled/Brave fanfic where his insert married Merida and is Eugene's brother and the narration shills Protestantism like he were getting paid for it. Just to frost that shit cake with an icing of amazingly ridiculous.

I'm laughing my ass off at his "countless hours" comment. Right. Five minutes with a box of Crayolas. Think we found the new ChrisChan! I wonder if that Merida fanboy has seen this vid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a4MR8oI_B8

Oh, read some of his writing. He seems to like Billy Connolly not being fond of Catholicism. Thing is, Connolly isn't fond of religion in general. And he uses naughty words!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cfWRQPcE8A
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on March 17, 2016, 04:28:04 pm
Also loving the fact that he looked at Merida and Elsa, some of the few female leads in Disney canon whose story didn't involve a male love interest, and thought: "Hey, you know what these independent female protagonists need? Hetero romance! Specifically, with my self-insert!"
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Skybison on March 17, 2016, 07:16:15 pm
... Well at least he's not shipping Elsa with her sister...

@Askold

I kinda agree with Elsa there, although she doesn't state her case very well.  Telling a black person complaining about racism "well teach other black people not to steal" has huge victim blaming connotations that I really don't see in "teach men not to rape", the point of which is to not blame the rape victim, not all men are rapists.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 17, 2016, 07:56:40 pm
... Well at least he's not shipping Elsa with her sister...

@Askold

I kinda agree with Elsa there, although she doesn't state her case very well.  Telling a black person complaining about racism "well teach other black people not to steal" has huge victim blaming connotations that I really don't see in "teach men not to rape", the point of which is to not blame the rape victim, not all men are rapists.

Yeah, no.  Statements like that imply that "rapist" is the default setting for men.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Skybison on March 17, 2016, 08:07:18 pm
No it doesn't.  "Teach men not to rape" is a response to rape victims being told they were asking for it by not wearing enough clothes, daring to go outside at night etc instead of putting the responsibility on the rapist.  If you prefer "teach rapists not to rape" fine, but it's not about saying men are rapists by default.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 17, 2016, 08:34:01 pm
No it doesn't.  "Teach men not to rape" is a response to rape victims being told they were asking for it by not wearing enough clothes, daring to go outside at night etc instead of putting the responsibility on the rapist.  If you prefer "teach rapists not to rape" fine, but it's not about saying men are rapists by default.

Except the idea that men have to be "taught" not to rape, as if it's something we naturally do.  It doesn't outright say it, but it heavily implies it.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: mellenORL on March 17, 2016, 08:46:01 pm
I'm siding with UP on this one. It reminds me how some people - without intending any disrespect at all - just did not get the what the statement, Black Lives Matter, means in context. "But, all lives matter!"...riiiight....aaaand....black people get killed a lot more often for way worse reasons than any other group, 'k?

Teach Men NOT to Rape? Learn How Not to Insult, whether out of crappy sentence composition, or cluelessness, or paranoid bigotry.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ironchew on March 17, 2016, 08:50:57 pm
No it doesn't.  "Teach men not to rape" is a response to rape victims being told they were asking for it by not wearing enough clothes, daring to go outside at night etc instead of putting the responsibility on the rapist.  If you prefer "teach rapists not to rape" fine, but it's not about saying men are rapists by default.

Except the idea that men have to be "taught" not to rape, as if it's something we naturally do.  It doesn't outright say it, but it heavily implies it.

UP, grow some thicker skin.

If conservatives were half as offended at rape apologetics as they seem to be about this then it never would've been a problem in the first place.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Eiki-mun on March 17, 2016, 09:02:16 pm
Let's take a look at the original quote:

(http://i.imgur.com/yYZ9Fc2.jpg)

...Sometimes I am still amazed at how people can not criticize themselves or their beliefs and can miss the point even when it is shown to them as clearly as it is in pic related. I believe the word I am looking for is introspection.

We see here Elsa asking "what is hateful about teaching men not to rape?" Certainly a fair question. Goodfella replies by asking two other, similar questions: "what is hateful about teaching black people not to steal?" and "what is hateful about teaching Muslims not to blow things up?" In this, he is establishing a direct comparison: men, black people, and Muslims, with raping, stealing, and blowing things up. Elsa then replies that those two things are hateful because "it implies that all black people steal things and that all Muslims blow things up", which by the comparison made in the post, implies she's perfectly okay with implying that all men rape. Which is, I believe, the problem people have - the implication that all men rape, that rape is a natural thing men do and they need to be taught not to do it.

Which, if that's actually true, I need to get on with my raping. I haven't even done it once.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: rageaholic on March 18, 2016, 10:29:08 am
Yeah, 6oodfella's point was pretty logical and went right over the head of Elsa. 
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: SCarpelan on March 18, 2016, 02:21:34 pm
I accidentally posted this in the SJ thread so here it's also in the proper place.

re: the rape discussion

tl;dr: The examples are not directly comparable since the contexts and ideas they express are different despite superficially similar statements.

The offensiveness is not in the form of the statement but in the idea behind it. "Teach men not to rape" is not an optimally constructed statement* but the context is different from the similar statements about blacks and Muslims. The stereotypes of blacks as criminals and Muslims as terrorists actually exist and those examples are based on and strengthen these stereotypes. Men as rapists is something only an extreme radical wing of feminism sees as a real stereotype.

The idea behind "teaching men not to rape" it is that we need to change the culture that leads to some men not taking the idea of consent seriously enough and justifies their actions. The only case where it promotes an actual stereotype is when someone who belongs to the aforementioned wing of feminism uses it. The crime statistics among African Americans and the terrorism among Muslims have more complicated causal relationships behind them and a constructive approach can't really be simplified into such a statement.

[rambling]

Actually, when I think about it more carefully, one big issue separating these examples is power. (Yes, I went there but hear me out before judging.) Rape is about subjugating the victim and the perpetrator is the one who has more power. The one who has more power in the context is the one who we need to put pressure on. Muslim terrorism is a reaction of an underdog to a political and societal issues** and the crime among African Americans is a result of economical and social circumstances.

"Teach muslims not to commit terrorism" and "teach blacks not to steal" don't have identical contexts either. Depending on the particular context in which someone uses the statement the former can actually be interpreted as an extremely flawed way of simplifying an idea worth considering. For example, the issue with power is more complicated: factions within the Muslim world hold a lot more power and carry more responsibility of terrorism than is the case when discussing African Americans and crime.

[/rambling]

* While I don't think the superficial interpretation of the flawed statement as too generalizing is a major problem there is the issue that women also commit rapes.

** Religion is naturally interwoven with these factors

Disclaimer: There are other dimensions of rape that fall outside this discussion such as its use as a weapon against civilian population.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Iosa the Invincible on March 18, 2016, 08:27:07 pm
Posted by an allegedly "former male feminist":

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I think we should survey feminists on what they think about declawing cats and circumcising infant boys.
I bet you we’d find a lot more feminists objecting to declawing than circumcision.

I don't know, anti-circumcision in all circumstances seems to be growing sentiment to me.  Also, how is the removal of a piece of skin around the penis head at all comparable to removing the toe tips of a cat?

Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ironchew on March 18, 2016, 08:57:31 pm
Posted by an allegedly "former male feminist":

Is that like those pastors with the "I used to be an atheist" backstory?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: RavynousHunter on March 18, 2016, 09:00:36 pm
Posted by an allegedly "former male feminist":

Is that like those pastors with the "I used to be an atheist" backstory?

As in "I'm making a completely unprovable claim that's likely bullshit to not-so-subtly add credibility to my statements?"  If so, then yes.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: rageaholic on March 20, 2016, 10:24:10 am
This (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZxY6TYBKoc) video on a gay couple that was attacked with boiling water.  That's bad enough, but some of the comments think that the attacker was in the right, even though this was clearly an unprovoked attack. 

Although I have to chuckle at the line "get out of my house with all your gay". 
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 20, 2016, 03:42:44 pm
Here we see an idiot trying to reframe the Holocaust as the end result of a struggle between Jews and gentiles in Europe:

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Holocaust scholars are not impartial, they are operating within a particular political and ideological framework that determines how they interpret historical events.

That is not to say that the material they present is not factual, or that they falsify historical events. What they do do is to interpret those events according to a particular ideological formula, the main element of which is the concept that the Jews of Europe were purely victims, and that their massacre during the war was some sort of mystical emanation of evil without any rational explanation.

In fact, "Holocaust" scholars seem to regard any attempt to find a rational explanation for the massacre of the Jews as a form of "denial", of justification or approval, which in itself is also some sort of emanation of evil.

In that respect, the study of the massacre of the Jews of Europe by the German Government during the Second World War differs in essence from the study of other large-scale massacres in history. Those other massacres are not usually seen in the same apocalyptic terms, not as cosmic conflicts between absolute good and absolute evil, but rather as the outcome of conflicts between rival groups that have rational and explicable causes.

While those other massacres are usually deplored by the historians writing about them, and the victims attract their sympathy as being for the most part innocent, those historians can see the objective reasons why the victims attracted the ire of the victimisers, and while they condemn the murderous actions of the victimisers, they can understand the motivations for those actions and do not simply write them off as the result of some evil force.

In the case of the massacres of Jews perpetrated by Ukrainians (and some other East European peoples), "Holocaust" scholars tend to deny that those peoples had any rational motivation for their actions, no genuine and understandable grievance against their Jewish neighbours. They describe the those peoples as either acting out of some internal evil tendency, or else as being passive dupes of the evil Germans.

It is for the above reasons that the works of the "Holocaust" scholars are flawed, even though they give an accurate account of the course of the Judeocide. Where they fail is in their explanations of its causes, seeing it in apocalyptic terms, as an outburst of totally irrational evil.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Canadian Mojo on March 20, 2016, 07:58:57 pm
Okay, curiosity got the better of me so I'll bite.

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...no genuine and understandable grievance...

Does this dipshit say what would those consist of?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: RavynousHunter on March 20, 2016, 09:27:39 pm
I think what he means is anything that can't be linked to Christendom or the rise of Martin Luther, which is (I'd bet) next to nothing since all this crap is basically linked to the idea that "DA JOOS KILLED AR SAVIOUR!"  Completely ignoring the fact that there'd be no salvation if there'd been no sacrifice because Yahweh is kind of a prick like that.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Skybison on March 23, 2016, 01:36:37 am
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Woman are friends with woman, and they have sex with men. So if you’re her friend, you’re a vagina.  You ask this girl to be your gf, she rejects you but ask if we can still be friends. That’s a insult, she thinks less of you.  A male and female aren’t suppose to be friends, they’re suppose to be love intrest. So basically you’re a vagina, because girls are suppose to be friends with girls, and fuck men. Also girls are horrible friends, all they do is leech off you, and cause drama.

So when a girl rejects you, and puts you in the friendzone, it’s a insult. Next time she says let’s just be friends, say no thank you.

Wow I had know idea being friends with a woman meant I was a vagina.  i thought it just meant I was a normal person who shared some interests with people with two X-chromosomes without wanting to bang them.  Thanks you r/TheRedPill for showing me the way.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: niam2023 on March 23, 2016, 01:42:12 am
I AM THE ATOMIC FLAMETHROWING VAGINA! MY POWERS ARE LIMITLESS AS THE DEPTH OF MY CLEFT! MY OVARIES BREED DOOM FOR THE HUMAN RACE!!

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on March 23, 2016, 04:04:11 am
Olli Immonen, the Finnish politician who got fame by hanging out with violent neo-Nazis and then claiming that he didn't hang out with them as well as writing a manifesto where he supported an armed revolution to stop "multiculturalism" is doing his thing again.

This time he started a FB post with condolences to the victims of the Brussels attacks and then went on to explain how the "real victims" or racism are Finnish-heterosexual-meat-eating-men...
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 23, 2016, 01:51:40 pm
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I commented this in another thread, and I feel like it must be given more attention:

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(That's because) genetics > culture. Anybody that thinks it's the other way around must ask themself where these barbaric cultures originated, which ethnicities' minds created them and why they still exist in areas where said ethnicities have notable populations.

To expand upon this, we will look elsewhere that the human races are sometimes compared to: dog breeds. A German shepherd and a chihuahua are the same species, but are very different physically and behaviourally. They maintain the basic features that allow us to recognize them both as types of dog, yet vary depending upon how they've evolved. Nobody will deny these facts.

However, once this logic is applied to human races/subspecies, all logic seems to go out the window.

"It's not genetics that causes certain groups to be violent and parasitic wherever they live, it's their culture! We just need to integrate them harder! Nazi!"

Refer to my original paragraph. Who created their vile cultures? For the logic impaired, think about it for a few minutes and ignore all the ingrained labels like "racist" and "bigot". Now think about this: whose culture(s) are you saying we should integrate them into? That's right, you're saying we must integrate these ethnic groups into our superior European cultures; the cultures that are responsible for centuries of innovation, discovery and victory.

To examine their cultures and make the observation that they breed violence, literal misogyny, literal homophobia and other forms of genuine hatred/bigotry, and have accomplished no way near as much as Europeans, shows that they are absolutely inferior. What does that say about the ethnicities that created these cultures? It shows that such behaviour is only natural to them.

An ethnicity's native culture is a direct representation of their mental capacity and true nature. This representation goes so deep that it will always have control over the ethnic group's aggression, tendency to punish members of their own kind for different ideologies, and even determine whether they will use a toilet or the street to expel waste.

To say that we must integrate these groups who come from such cultures is to acknowledge that they are not on the same level as Europeans. Remember the next time a lefty tells you we must integrate them; they are subtly admitting that Europeans are superior. Deep down, even the most deluded socialist or open borders activist knows the truth.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: pyro on March 23, 2016, 02:02:18 pm
Wow I had know idea being friends with a woman meant I was a vagina.  i thought it just meant I was a normal person who shared some interests with people with two X-chromosomes without wanting to bang them.  Thanks you r/TheRedPill for showing me the way.

He didn't say "have." He said "are."

Don't ask be how that works, but we're apparently the somewhat more frontal version of the judge from Pink Floyd's The Wall.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on March 23, 2016, 02:24:28 pm
So what about married people? They're all about calling people cucks, but here they are, advocating cuckoldry.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on March 23, 2016, 02:51:54 pm
"Cuck" is being used as an insult and it lost its meaning long time ago. These days anything the /pol/lacks don't like is being called cuck.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: pyro on March 23, 2016, 04:24:37 pm
Overuse of the word "cuck" is so cuck I can't help but cuck at the cuckiness of any cuckold that would cucking use the word "cuck" without cucking about what it actually cucks.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Skybison on March 23, 2016, 05:13:11 pm
I'm the most Cuckable Cuck to ever Cuckly Cuckify in the Cuckhood.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: davedan on March 23, 2016, 05:16:35 pm
Whats the fascination with other guys fucking your wife? And the whole thing is rather possessive, because it's YOUR wife. Like she isn't capable of self determination.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Skybison on March 23, 2016, 05:32:42 pm
Davedan you're forgetting:  your wife is your property, and all women from your race are collectively the property of their men.  If a white woman has consensual sex with someone from another race, that sex is being stolen from you. 

If you weren't such a Cuckish Cuckold Cuckfully Cucking your Cuckism you might understand that.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: davedan on March 23, 2016, 05:48:04 pm
Davedan you're forgetting:  your wife is your property, and all women from your race are collectively the property of their men.  If a white woman has consensual sex with someone from another race, that sex is being stolen from you. 

If you weren't such a Cuckish Cuckold Cuckfully Cucking your Cuckism you might understand that.

But what if I'm tired? I mean I'm not from havana baby
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: pyro on March 23, 2016, 08:32:45 pm
But what if I'm tired? I mean I'm not from havana baby

Cuck-a-doodle-doo!
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Svata on March 23, 2016, 11:09:46 pm
Davedan you're forgetting:  your wife is your property, and all women from your race are collectively the property of their men.  If a white woman has consensual sex with someone from another race, that sex is being stolen from you. 

If you weren't such a Cuckish Cuckold Cuckfully Cucking your Cuckism you might understand that.

But what if I'm tired? I mean I'm not from havana baby

Bart?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on March 25, 2016, 10:17:43 am
Yeah, this is some straight-up bullshit. You wanna discuss ace erasure? Okay, sure, but don't fucking derail a thread about homosexuality literally being outlawed to talk about it.

Jesus Christ, fuckheads like this make all of us look bad.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 25, 2016, 03:58:22 pm
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Radovan Karadzic hero!40 yrs in jail for defending Serbian people from bosnian and croatian faschists???I hope judge will die from cancer.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: I am lizard on March 27, 2016, 02:32:53 pm
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If you can't be friends with people who have different political beliefs, the problem is with you, not your friends.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: mellenORL on March 27, 2016, 03:36:09 pm
Ummmmmm. I agree, actually. Yes, the personal is the political. But if you just cannot see the person beyond their opinions, simply cannot forgive someone for believing stupid and/or just wrong things, you have denied their humanity in a way. One has that right, of course, to reject people for their opinions, but personally I'll keep being fond of my cousin and of my friends who are conservatives. I don't hold their stupidity in some areas against them as human beings.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ironchew on March 27, 2016, 04:00:02 pm
Ummmmmm. I agree, actually. Yes, the personal is the political. But if you just cannot see the person beyond their opinions, simply cannot forgive someone for believing stupid and/or just wrong things, you have denied their humanity in a way. One has that right, of course, to reject people for their opinions, but personally I'll keep being fond of my cousin and of my friends who are conservatives. I don't hold their stupidity in some areas against them as human beings.

Sounds like you have the privilege to be a demographic who isn't threatened with displacement or death by political movements. Many people have to avoid others with political beliefs that involve harming them and others like them.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on March 27, 2016, 04:04:47 pm
I disagree, mellen. In my opinion, it's perfectly justified to not want to interact with someone over an opinion of theirs if it's particularly harsh. There are some opinions that I can't just 'agree to disagree' with and continue being comfortably friendly despite. In some cases, people's opinions do reflect on them as people and particularly shitty ones alienate others from me on an interpersonal level, and that's fine. It's also not "denying their humanity" in any way. As an example:

Quote from: Person A
I personally believe church tax in Finland should continue to be a policy, as it funds the charity work that the national church performs.

Well, person A who is a hypothetical strawman, while I personally disagree with that political opinion, I can still respect you as a person.

Quote from: Person B
I personally believe all gay people are mentally ill and conversion therapy is A-OK.

...no, person B who despite being a strawman espouses attitudes I have seen real people espouse, I can't respect your opinion or you as a person since you're dehumanizing an already-marginalized subset of humanity (that includes myself and those I care about). And I'm no worse a person for not wanting you in my life or forcing myself to look past this.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Iosa the Invincible on March 27, 2016, 04:15:11 pm
Ummmmmm. I agree, actually. Yes, the personal is the political. But if you just cannot see the person beyond their opinions, simply cannot forgive someone for believing stupid and/or just wrong things, you have denied their humanity in a way. One has that right, of course, to reject people for their opinions, but personally I'll keep being fond of my cousin and of my friends who are conservatives. I don't hold their stupidity in some areas against them as human beings.

I think the quote was put here because it ignores marginalized people who cut out family or friends for their own health.  Some people really do need to break ties with people to be happy, especially on issues that directly affect them.  I wouldn't blame a gay person for cutting ties with "well meaning" friends who go "oh, I don't hate you, I just don't think you should have the same rights as me".

That being said, the way some social circles pressure people to cut all ties, especially family ties, at the drop of a hat due to "guilt by association" is kind of gross.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Sigmaleph on March 27, 2016, 07:40:23 pm
I disagree, mellen. In my opinion, it's perfectly justified to not want to interact with someone over an opinion of theirs if it's particularly harsh. There are some opinions that I can't just 'agree to disagree' with and continue being comfortably friendly despite. In some cases, people's opinions do reflect on them as people and particularly shitty ones alienate others from me on an interpersonal level, and that's fine. It's also not "denying their humanity" in any way. As an example:

Quote from: Person A
I personally believe church tax in Finland should continue to be a policy, as it funds the charity work that the national church performs.

Well, person A who is a hypothetical strawman, while I personally disagree with that political opinion, I can still respect you as a person.

Quote from: Person B
I personally believe all gay people are mentally ill and conversion therapy is A-OK.

...no, person B who despite being a strawman espouses attitudes I have seen real people espouse, I can't respect your opinion or you as a person since you're dehumanizing an already-marginalized subset of humanity (that includes myself and those I care about). And I'm no worse a person for not wanting you in my life or forcing myself to look past this.

"Can't be friends with someone with different political beliefs" is distinct from "can't be friends with someone with specific political beliefs".

You can be a generally tolerant person but refuse to be friends with someone who believes you should be killed over your ethnicity/orientation/gender identity/whatever, that's perfectly reasonable. The objection (mine, and I think Mellen's) is to people who refuse to interact with anyone who is not part of the same political movement.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on March 27, 2016, 07:56:42 pm
Oh, yeah, that's fair enough. I'm just used to people using "different political beliefs" as shorthand for "this person thinks you're broken/sick/inferior (and you need to grow a thicker skin you SJW)", but your reading is the more optimistic and in light of that, mellen's got a point.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: pyro on March 27, 2016, 09:54:31 pm
My family moved because my transgendered mother was forced to live like a prisoner in our home by people with "different political beliefs." We no longer live there, and are no longer friends with the residents.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: mellenORL on March 27, 2016, 10:59:09 pm
I'm glad you two made that move. It's especially harmful when family behavior is that toxic and vicious.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on March 30, 2016, 01:43:22 am
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Hitler stopped degeneracy in Berlin (Former sin capital of the world)
He burnt pro communist books
He bought the German economy up from the ground whilst the rest of the world was in a great depression.
He built the first highways and gave everyone a car.
He kicked the jews who were destroying German culture into their own state in the middle east
He gave pregnant women welfare and support
He put a focus on Child health
He started the first anti smoking campaign
He ordered his troops to march into the czech republic and execute those massacring Germans
And you think calling Trump Hitler will stop me supporting him?

Either he is lying or simply wrong about: Stopping degeneracy, Jews destroying the culture and the massacres of Germans that allegedly happened in Czech Republic. And the child health thing is debatable as their "racial hygiene" program only cared for the health of certain children. ...And the highways weren't a Nazi plan, they had opposed the idea of building roads up to the moment when Hitler became the councellor at which point they let the plans proceed and took credit for the idea.

But I do agree that the anti-smoking campaign was a good idea.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Art Vandelay on March 30, 2016, 02:08:57 am
Even assuming for a second that all of that is true, and therefore you would support Hitler for everything he did for Germany, you have to remember that his genius idea of attacking both the Soviets and the French (and by extension the rest of the western democracies) at the same time led to Germany being split into a Soviet puppet state and an American puppet state for almost 45 years. He did great work burning all of those communist books, then his actions put around 3rd of his country under the communist jackboot. Great work, Adolph. You're truly the saviour of the German people.

Yep, as a hardcore patriot, someone like Hitler is exactly who I want running my country. It'll be a glorious, thousand year reich. No possible way that could go wrong or anything. No siree Bob.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on March 30, 2016, 03:03:32 am
Yep, every nationalists dream to have your country carved up between the Soviets, Americans and the British.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Lady Evil on March 30, 2016, 04:53:32 pm
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Hitler stopped degeneracy in Berlin (Former sin capital of the world)
He burnt pro communist books
He bought the German economy up from the ground whilst the rest of the world was in a great depression.
He built the first highways and gave everyone a car.
He kicked the jews who were destroying German culture into their own state in the middle east
He gave pregnant women welfare and support
He put a focus on Child health
He started the first anti smoking campaign
He ordered his troops to march into the czech republic and execute those massacring Germans
And you think calling Trump Hitler will stop me supporting him?

Either he is lying or simply wrong about: Stopping degeneracy, Jews destroying the culture and the massacres of Germans that allegedly happened in Czech Republic. And the child health thing is debatable as their "racial hygiene" program only cared for the health of certain children. ...And the highways weren't a Nazi plan, they had opposed the idea of building roads up to the moment when Hitler became the councellor at which point they let the plans proceed and took credit for the idea.

But I do agree that the anti-smoking campaign was a good idea.

And now I have a mental image of Hitler pointing at people like Oprah and saying "You get a car! And you get a car! And you get a car! EVERYBODY GETS A CAR!"
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: niam2023 on March 30, 2016, 04:57:12 pm
I do admit I love what popular culture has done to Hitler. He's a gigantic joke.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: MaybeNever on March 30, 2016, 11:45:56 pm
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Hitler stopped degeneracy in Berlin (Former sin capital of the world)
He burnt pro communist books
He bought the German economy up from the ground whilst the rest of the world was in a great depression.
He built the first highways and gave everyone a car.
He kicked the jews who were destroying German culture into their own state in the middle east
He gave pregnant women welfare and support
He put a focus on Child health
He started the first anti smoking campaign
He ordered his troops to march into the czech republic and execute those massacring Germans
And you think calling Trump Hitler will stop me supporting him?

Either he is lying or simply wrong about: Stopping degeneracy, Jews destroying the culture and the massacres of Germans that allegedly happened in Czech Republic. And the child health thing is debatable as their "racial hygiene" program only cared for the health of certain children. ...And the highways weren't a Nazi plan, they had opposed the idea of building roads up to the moment when Hitler became the councellor at which point they let the plans proceed and took credit for the idea.

But I do agree that the anti-smoking campaign was a good idea.

He did awful things to the economy, too. Much of the early economic growth starting in 1934 was thanks to Hjalmar Schacht's careful Keynesian approach and innovative financing strategies, but the man was constantly embattled because he was opposed to the Nazi treatment of Jews and to German rearmament. He clashed with Goering, who held enormous economic power after 1936, eventually leading to Schacht's resignation in 1937. After he left, and Hitler and Goering moved the economy to be entirely subservient to rearmament, the country's severe and growing trade deficit made itself felt with resource and budgetary shortfalls. The country was literally facing economic collapse without extraordinary change. Ironically, the early years of the war may have been easier on the German economy than continued peace would have been. Of course, the end result was far worse.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: I am lizard on March 31, 2016, 01:54:30 am
I disagree, mellen. In my opinion, it's perfectly justified to not want to interact with someone over an opinion of theirs if it's particularly harsh. There are some opinions that I can't just 'agree to disagree' with and continue being comfortably friendly despite. In some cases, people's opinions do reflect on them as people and particularly shitty ones alienate others from me on an interpersonal level, and that's fine. It's also not "denying their humanity" in any way. As an example:

Quote from: Person A
I personally believe church tax in Finland should continue to be a policy, as it funds the charity work that the national church performs.

Well, person A who is a hypothetical strawman, while I personally disagree with that political opinion, I can still respect you as a person.

Quote from: Person B
I personally believe all gay people are mentally ill and conversion therapy is A-OK.

...no, person B who despite being a strawman espouses attitudes I have seen real people espouse, I can't respect your opinion or you as a person since you're dehumanizing an already-marginalized subset of humanity (that includes myself and those I care about). And I'm no worse a person for not wanting you in my life or forcing myself to look past this.

"Can't be friends with someone with different political beliefs" is distinct from "can't be friends with someone with specific political beliefs".

You can be a generally tolerant person but refuse to be friends with someone who believes you should be killed over your ethnicity/orientation/gender identity/whatever, that's perfectly reasonable. The objection (mine, and I think Mellen's) is to people who refuse to interact with anyone who is not part of the same political movement.
The context of the original quote was about not wanting to be friends with a BNP memember, not invalidating any points you've made of course.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: rageaholic on March 31, 2016, 10:12:34 am
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Am I the only one who doesn't care what happens to run aways? Just hear me out. If your being abused or anything like that I support you, you should run away to a safer place. But most teens that run away I see are run aways because "their parents have too much rules" or "they treat me like a child" things like that. So they think the best option in to run away? Are they serious? Sorry but if you run away because your parents want the best for you then you deserve everything that happens to you.

This was in response to a clip from What Would You Do?  The scenario set up, a runaway teen girl being lured away by a predator...
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: mellenORL on March 31, 2016, 10:39:02 am
"Am I the only one who doesn't care what happens to the puppy who dug under the fence and ran around and eventually got hit by a car? Sure, there are puppies who are abused or starved, and I say let 'em run away to a safer place. But a lot of these puppies run away because their owners are just trying to house break them or teach them to heel. I say, Fuck Those Puppies! Sorry, but if you run away because you don't like leashes and wee-wee pads, then you deserve everything that happens to you."
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Lady Evil on March 31, 2016, 06:45:25 pm
Am I the only one who doesn't care what happens to people who can't tell the difference between "your" and "you're"? Sure, there are uneducated people who just don't know any better, and I say let them attend a 3rd grade grammar lesson in order to learn. But a lot of these people are just morons who can't be asked to use an apostrophe correctly. Sorry, but if you abuse the English language because you're a lazy motherfucker then you deserve everything that happens to you.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ironchew on March 31, 2016, 07:30:53 pm
Am I the only one who doesn't care what happens to people who can't tell the difference between "your" and "you're"? Sure, there are uneducated people who just don't know any better, and I say let them attend a 3rd grade grammar lesson in order to learn. But a lot of these people are just morons who can't be asked to use an apostrophe correctly. Sorry, but if you abuse the English language because you're a lazy motherfucker then you deserve everything that happens to you.

Your grasping at straws to attack someone with a perfectly fine grasp of English, in my opinion.

Ask yoreself: are you're standards too high?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: mellenORL on March 31, 2016, 08:23:26 pm
Oh, edgelord, you broke a fledgling snark chain.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Art Vandelay on March 31, 2016, 09:27:26 pm
Am I the only one who doesn't care what happens to people who can't tell the difference between "your" and "you're"? Sure, there are uneducated people who just don't know any better, and I say let them attend a 3rd grade grammar lesson in order to learn. But a lot of these people are just morons who can't be asked to use an apostrophe correctly. Sorry, but if you abuse the English language because you're a lazy motherfucker then you deserve everything that happens to you.
I could actually get behind this.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Svata on April 01, 2016, 02:28:12 am
Well aren't you just a perfect bitch.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 01, 2016, 08:47:20 am
Well aren't you just a perfect bitch.

It's shitposting!  What part of "National Offend a College Student Day" don't you understand?  Foke!
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: mellenORL on April 01, 2016, 10:29:03 am
"Ultimate Warrior"
HURRRRR-RRRRR!
XD
 
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: pyro on April 01, 2016, 12:06:37 pm
"Ultimate Warrior"
HURRRRR-RRRRR!
XD

Why is Ultimate Warrior already in my ignore list? It can't be because it's just a name change from Ultimate Paragon, can it?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: ironbite on April 01, 2016, 12:22:01 pm
It is.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: mellenORL on April 01, 2016, 01:28:20 pm
He really brightened my day with that. It's beautifully Poe-ish: is he totes srs, or taking the piss? Anyway, it's a funny, colorful avatar.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 02, 2016, 05:39:20 pm
But seriously, going into STEM is actually a good idea.  There's a 2:1 faculty preference for women:

http://www.pnas.org/content/112/17/5360.abstract (http://www.pnas.org/content/112/17/5360.abstract)

Furthermore, there is no gender pay gap in tech salaries:

http://spectrum.ieee.org/view-from-the-valley/at-work/tech-careers/study-finds-no-gender-gap-in-tech-salaries (http://spectrum.ieee.org/view-from-the-valley/at-work/tech-careers/study-finds-no-gender-gap-in-tech-salaries)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 02, 2016, 07:00:30 pm
Yet another reason STEM is better.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ironchew on April 02, 2016, 07:51:20 pm
But seriously, going into STEM is actually a good idea.  There's a 2:1 faculty preference for women:

http://www.pnas.org/content/112/17/5360.abstract (http://www.pnas.org/content/112/17/5360.abstract)

Furthermore, there is no gender pay gap in tech salaries:

http://spectrum.ieee.org/view-from-the-valley/at-work/tech-careers/study-finds-no-gender-gap-in-tech-salaries (http://spectrum.ieee.org/view-from-the-valley/at-work/tech-careers/study-finds-no-gender-gap-in-tech-salaries)

Are you still on about that no-wage-gap falsehood fed to you from the manosphere?

Stay classy, UP.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 02, 2016, 08:55:38 pm
But seriously, going into STEM is actually a good idea.  There's a 2:1 faculty preference for women:

http://www.pnas.org/content/112/17/5360.abstract (http://www.pnas.org/content/112/17/5360.abstract)

Furthermore, there is no gender pay gap in tech salaries:

http://spectrum.ieee.org/view-from-the-valley/at-work/tech-careers/study-finds-no-gender-gap-in-tech-salaries (http://spectrum.ieee.org/view-from-the-valley/at-work/tech-careers/study-finds-no-gender-gap-in-tech-salaries)

Are you still on about that no-wage-gap falsehood fed to you from the manosphere?

Stay classy, UP.

It didn't come from the manosphere.  It came from the Bureau of Labor Statistics:

http://www.bls.gov/cps/earnings.htm (http://www.bls.gov/cps/earnings.htm)

http://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/cps/womensearnings_2012.pdf (http://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/cps/womensearnings_2012.pdf)

And just to clarify, I never said there was no wage gap, only that it was greatly exaggerated.  The BLS notes that there are a number of factors to consider, such as childcare, education, and the number of hours worked.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: dpareja on April 02, 2016, 09:35:23 pm
Regarding a fanfic about Wesley Crusher and Taurik (a male Vulcan) becoming involved (note: the story itself only depicts the two kissing) during the latter's pon farr:

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The writer of that story is a perverted sicko and that story has no place in Trek.

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Could not happen because there are no gays in Star Trek because they have cured all mental illness by the 24th century.

The first quote was seen on a Trek forum in response to the person who posted the link to tease someone about mixing up Taurik with another Vulcan; the second is on the story itself, posted ten minutes before the first, and after the link was posted on the aforementioned forum.

I'm not going to link to the story because the website that hosts it also hosts mature content.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Dakota Bob on April 02, 2016, 10:08:00 pm
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Could not happen because there are no gays in Star Trek because they have cured all mental illness by the 24th century.

Bruh. Gene Roddenberry wanted to include same-sex couples on that Risa episode on TNG but the studio was the one to shoot that down. Do you even Trek, casual?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: dpareja on April 02, 2016, 10:24:54 pm
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Could not happen because there are no gays in Star Trek because they have cured all mental illness by the 24th century.

Bruh. Gene Roddenberry wanted to include same-sex couples on that Risa episode on TNG but the studio was the one to shoot that down. Do you even Trek, casual?

Clearly, that's because the studio knew that there are no gays in the 24th century.

But from what that person's posted, I think that fifty years ago he would have objected to this scene (http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/3x10hd/platosstepchildrenhd1280.jpg).

(There were actually two takes done of that scene, the one that was aired and another tamer one; Shatner hammed up the latter so hilariously that only the aired scene was usable.)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Random Guy on April 02, 2016, 10:59:19 pm
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Could not happen because there are no gays in Star Trek because they have cured all mental illness by the 24th century.

Bruh. Gene Roddenberry wanted to include same-sex couples on that Risa episode on TNG but the studio was the one to shoot that down. Do you even Trek, casual?

He actually said in a 1991 interview (mentioned here (http://www.wired.com/2013/05/star-trek-lgbt-gay-characters/)) that he was going to add an LGBT character to the cast of TNG in the upcoming fifth season. Unfortunately, he died early in that season and his successors, who had always disagreed with the idea, didn't go through with it.

I actually thought about this and very strongly suspect that Ro Laren was meant to be this character, but Roddenberry just hadn't outed her by the time he died (in between "The Game" and "Unification, Part 1," I believe). She was introduced very early in Season 5, right around the time Roddenberry would have added this new character to the cast, and after his death there was a long string of episodes where she was just absent. The writers only brought her back starting with "Conundrum," where she was quickly given an amnesia-induced sexual affair with Commander Riker.

I will also note that Michelle Forbes refused to work with Roddenberry's successors on future Star Trek projects, passing up offers to reprise her role on DS9 and Voyager (the roles were changed to Kira Nerys and B'Elanna Torres instead), and when she finally did agree to work for one of them (Ronald D. Moore, who cast her as Admiral Cain on the 2000s Battlestar Galactica), her character was a lesbian.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: dpareja on April 02, 2016, 11:25:04 pm
I can't recall the source, but from what I've read, Ro was specifically introduced in order that she would be moved over to DS9 as the first officer of the station. It's at least part of why "Disaster" was written: the producers wanted to see how Forbes and Colm Meaney (who was moving over to DS9) worked together. Instead, Forbes refused and Nana Visitor was given the first officer part on DS9.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 03, 2016, 12:40:17 pm
In this edition of "Shit Tankies Say:"

Quote
Imprisoning homosexuals in gulags was a mistake, but not the gulag system itself. Mechanisms of repression are going to exist in any State, as distasteful as this admission is to us. Personally I prefer reeducation centers. Frankly, this obsession of human rights doesn't prevail in the real world unless it's directed toward Marxist or socialist states.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ironchew on April 03, 2016, 03:34:29 pm
In this edition of "Shit Tankies Say:"

Quote
Imprisoning homosexuals in gulags was a mistake, but not the gulag system itself. Mechanisms of repression are going to exist in any State, as distasteful as this admission is to us. Personally I prefer reeducation centers. Frankly, this obsession of human rights doesn't prevail in the real world unless it's directed toward Marxist or socialist states.

And? Are you going to offer an opinion on that statement, UP?

Or are you understandably reluctant to throw stones in your glass house?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: davedan on April 04, 2016, 12:11:56 am
"Ultimate Warrior"
HURRRRR-RRRRR!
XD

Why is Ultimate Warrior already in my ignore list? It can't be because it's just a name change from Ultimate Paragon, can it?

Did UP actually change his name to Ultimate Warrior? Did he change his Avatar to a wrestler? Is that why his motto is the viagra ad and not 'hot blooded christlike christian'?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: dpareja on April 04, 2016, 12:14:05 am
"Ultimate Warrior"
HURRRRR-RRRRR!
XD

Why is Ultimate Warrior already in my ignore list? It can't be because it's just a name change from Ultimate Paragon, can it?

Did UP actually change his name to Ultimate Warrior? Did he change his Avatar to a wrestler? Is that why his motto is the viagra ad and not 'hot blooded christlike christian'?

Don't you know? The Hot-Blooded Christ is tougher than diamonds and stronger than steel.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: davedan on April 04, 2016, 12:18:05 am
Was it an April Fool's, it's amazing that he managed to change his motto to one even more homoerotic for Jesus.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 04, 2016, 12:39:43 am
Was it an April Fool's, it's amazing that he managed to change his motto to one even more homoerotic for Jesus.

Nah, I changed my motto to "Destrucity."
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 04, 2016, 05:05:57 pm
By the way, here's some anti-vaxxer bullshit:

(http://40.media.tumblr.com/0a8b19ff1d62c22a554fe9e305a84a7d/tumblr_n47p9kjyW31sxgmf4o1_1280.png)

"Why don't you wear a helmet?"

"MY HEAD ALREADY HAS PROTECTION AGAINST BLUNT TRAUMA, IT'S CALLED A CRANIUM!"

(http://41.media.tumblr.com/d8f990ae1a4352fa28e572d1b3a54e0a/tumblr_n47p9kjyW31sxgmf4o2_500.png)

Autism isn't becoming more common, we're just getting better at identifying it.  And I'd like a source on those statistics.

(http://40.media.tumblr.com/00af2d40e0e14bf156cdfde14aa444d6/tumblr_n47p9kjyW31sxgmf4o3_1280.png)

You'd think this would be the mother of all scandals.  And yet, the media didn't say a peep.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Dakota Bob on April 04, 2016, 05:18:32 pm
"One of the largest, most evil lies in history"

Deez mutherfuckers right here are the fucking worst. Turning their babies into WMD's.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Lady Evil on April 08, 2016, 12:39:23 pm
Check out Lord Elthibar's latest attempt at poetry.

http://lordelthibar.deviantart.com/art/I-m-a-Good-Ol-Christian-Reformist-600819436
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: mellenORL on April 08, 2016, 12:45:24 pm
Go, Home Skool! That'll show 'em. XD
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Iosa the Invincible on April 08, 2016, 11:34:28 pm
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long story short, wage gap isn't because of women getting paid less for the same job but because they chose to go into low paying areas with more flexibility and benefits

"they chose to go into low paying areas" that could never be due to sexism tho

you also have to consider why those areas are low paying in the first place, and whether it's a case of the jobs being low paying because women traditionally take those jobs

i remember reading an article a while ago (can't remember where, apologies) that pointed out that doctors are far less respected in... i believe it was russia, because generally women are doctors and so it was seen as a less prestigious career, and more of an extension of a stereotypically "caring" role

Wether it is or not, just means gasp, I don't know

That's what you should focus on fixing. Get those women in the coal mines away fron their families. Those roofs aren't going to tar and shingle themselves. Get all that hazard pay for all I care. Just stop lieing about the gap.

So, the wage gap is a myth because women choose to work in women dominated jobs, which pay less because women dominated jobs aren't held in the same regard as men, so it's women's fault for not abandoning these jobs and finding men dominated jobs, because equality isn't about raising a group's worth so much as getting them to conform to another group after having them see that their original group is just inherently worth less.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 08, 2016, 11:47:17 pm
Quote
Quote
Quote
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long story short, wage gap isn't because of women getting paid less for the same job but because they chose to go into low paying areas with more flexibility and benefits

"they chose to go into low paying areas" that could never be due to sexism tho

you also have to consider why those areas are low paying in the first place, and whether it's a case of the jobs being low paying because women traditionally take those jobs

i remember reading an article a while ago (can't remember where, apologies) that pointed out that doctors are far less respected in... i believe it was russia, because generally women are doctors and so it was seen as a less prestigious career, and more of an extension of a stereotypically "caring" role

Wether it is or not, just means gasp, I don't know

That's what you should focus on fixing. Get those women in the coal mines away fron their families. Those roofs aren't going to tar and shingle themselves. Get all that hazard pay for all I care. Just stop lieing about the gap.

So, the wage gap is a myth because women choose to work in women dominated jobs, which pay less because women dominated jobs aren't held in the same regard as men, so it's women's fault for not abandoning these jobs and finding men dominated jobs, because equality isn't about raising a group's worth so much as getting them to conform to another group after having them see that their original group is just inherently worth less.

I wouldn't say the wage gap is a myth, so much as it's misunderstood.  Women don't get paid less for the same work, at least not by as much as is commonly claimed.  Like you said, the reality is more subtle than that.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: mellenORL on April 09, 2016, 12:10:33 am
OFFS that is not what she meant, and it was not about the issue being "more subtle", either, UP. Denser than depleted uranium.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 09, 2016, 12:11:53 am
OFFS that is not what she meant, and it was not about the issue being "more subtle", either, UP. Denser than depleted uranium.

I was just chipping in my two cents.  I know exactly what she meant.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Iosa the Invincible on April 09, 2016, 12:17:08 am
Just so we're clear, everyone knows I was just paraphrasing the guy's shitty logic, right?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 09, 2016, 12:17:47 am
Just so we're clear, everyone knows I was just paraphrasing the guy's shitty logic, right?

Yup.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: mellenORL on April 09, 2016, 12:29:11 am
LOL. Reeeeeeeeeeeeealy, UP?

"I wouldn't say the wage gap is a myth, so much as it's misunderstood.  Women don't get paid less for the same work.  Like you said, the reality is more subtle than that."
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 09, 2016, 01:02:15 am
LOL. Reeeeeeeeeeeeealy, UP?

"I wouldn't say the wage gap is a myth, so much as it's misunderstood.  Women don't get paid less for the same work.  Like you said, the reality is more subtle than that."

Huh.  And here I thought I was just buzzed.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: davedan on April 09, 2016, 01:16:01 am
Women often get paid less for the same work though.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 09, 2016, 01:19:11 am
Women often get paid less for the same work though.

Citation?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: davedan on April 09, 2016, 01:24:00 am
I was going to tell you to suck my hairy balls. I'm not fucking debating with you, you disingenuous hack and I'm completely fed up with your intellectual dishonesty but then I realised that you would claim that as a victory.

So here's one citation. It's about Australia. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-03/gender-pay-gap-among-managers-wa/7215784 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-03/gender-pay-gap-among-managers-wa/7215784)

You can still suck my balls though and you should probably apologise to Melen now
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 09, 2016, 01:32:49 am
I was going to tell you to suck my hairy balls. I'm not fucking debating with you, you disingenuous hack and I'm completely fed up with your intellectual dishonesty but then I realised that you would claim that as a victory.

So here's one citation. It's about Australia. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-03/gender-pay-gap-among-managers-wa/7215784 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-03/gender-pay-gap-among-managers-wa/7215784)

You can still suck my balls though and you should probably apologise to Melen now

I have a quick question: does it take into account hours worked?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ironchew on April 09, 2016, 01:52:50 am
Here we have UP engaging in more self-demonstrating Things People Say on the Internet.

Toxic misogyny always finds a way, it seems.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on April 09, 2016, 01:58:10 am
I was going to tell you to suck my hairy balls. I'm not fucking debating with you, you disingenuous hack and I'm completely fed up with your intellectual dishonesty but then I realised that you would claim that as a victory.

So here's one citation. It's about Australia. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-03/gender-pay-gap-among-managers-wa/7215784 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-03/gender-pay-gap-among-managers-wa/7215784)

You can still suck my balls though and you should probably apologise to Melen now

I have a quick question: does it take into account hours worked?
The Workplace Gender Equality Agency bases its data (https://www.wgea.gov.au/sites/default/files/Gender_Pay_Gap_Factsheet.pdf) on the Australian Bureau of Statistics Employee Earnings and Hours survey. Does that answer your question?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Art Vandelay on April 09, 2016, 01:58:46 am
I have a quick question: does it take into account hours worked?
Here's a novel idea. Try reading it and finding out for yourself.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 09, 2016, 02:01:52 am
I was going to tell you to suck my hairy balls. I'm not fucking debating with you, you disingenuous hack and I'm completely fed up with your intellectual dishonesty but then I realised that you would claim that as a victory.

So here's one citation. It's about Australia. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-03/gender-pay-gap-among-managers-wa/7215784 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-03/gender-pay-gap-among-managers-wa/7215784)

You can still suck my balls though and you should probably apologise to Melen now

I have a quick question: does it take into account hours worked?
The Workplace Gender Equality Agency bases its data (https://www.wgea.gov.au/sites/default/files/Gender_Pay_Gap_Factsheet.pdf) on the Australian Bureau of Statistics Employee Earnings and Hours survey. Does that answer your question?

Note to self: be less Amerocentric.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: niam2023 on April 09, 2016, 02:03:23 am
No note to try not reciting manosphere talking points?

Well, that would be inconvenient for you - then what would you post?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Skybison on April 09, 2016, 02:05:13 am
Now, now Art, we all know that Ultimate paragon's illiterate.

He is illiterate right?  That's why he never reads sources or responds properly, he only understands one word in five.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: davedan on April 09, 2016, 02:08:34 am
I have a quick question: does it take into account hours worked?
Here's a novel idea. Try reading it and finding out for yourself.

After all it's in the third paragraph: "Data collected by the Workplace Gender Equality Agency (WGEA) and analysed by the Bankwest Curtin Economic Centre (BCEC) found women in key management roles working full-time earned an annual average of $244,569 while men earned $343,269."

Surely one of the 1000 monkeys that types your posts can read at least a little?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: niam2023 on April 09, 2016, 02:14:16 am
Davedan, his posts are typed out by other GamerGaters.

And as we know very well, they're even less capable at posting than a barrel of monkeys.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 09, 2016, 02:21:27 am
I have a quick question: does it take into account hours worked?
Here's a novel idea. Try reading it and finding out for yourself.

After all it's in the third paragraph: "Data collected by the Workplace Gender Equality Agency (WGEA) and analysed by the Bankwest Curtin Economic Centre (BCEC) found women in key management roles working full-time earned an annual average of $244,569 while men earned $343,269."

Surely one of the 1000 monkeys that types your posts can read at least a little?

"Working full-time" still leaves some ambiguity.  I read that in Australia, 38 hours a week is considered full-time work.  As a result, there's a good deal of room for some to spend more hours working than others.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ironchew on April 09, 2016, 02:27:12 am
I have a quick question: does it take into account hours worked?
Here's a novel idea. Try reading it and finding out for yourself.

After all it's in the third paragraph: "Data collected by the Workplace Gender Equality Agency (WGEA) and analysed by the Bankwest Curtin Economic Centre (BCEC) found women in key management roles working full-time earned an annual average of $244,569 while men earned $343,269."

Surely one of the 1000 monkeys that types your posts can read at least a little?

"Working full-time" still leaves some ambiguity.  I read that in Australia, 38 hours a week is considered full-time work.  As a result, there's a good deal of room for some to spend more hours working than others.

UP, with your track record of bright ideas, I think you're better off pretending Australia doesn't exist.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: davedan on April 09, 2016, 02:32:40 am
I have a quick question: does it take into account hours worked?
Here's a novel idea. Try reading it and finding out for yourself.

After all it's in the third paragraph: "Data collected by the Workplace Gender Equality Agency (WGEA) and analysed by the Bankwest Curtin Economic Centre (BCEC) found women in key management roles working full-time earned an annual average of $244,569 while men earned $343,269."

Surely one of the 1000 monkeys that types your posts can read at least a little?

"Working full-time" still leaves some ambiguity.  I read that in Australia, 38 hours a week is considered full-time work.  As a result, there's a good deal of room for some to spend more hours working than others.
I've never heard of a manager working for an hourly wage. They're on salary mate.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on April 09, 2016, 02:58:47 am
I have a quick question: does it take into account hours worked?
Here's a novel idea. Try reading it and finding out for yourself.

After all it's in the third paragraph: "Data collected by the Workplace Gender Equality Agency (WGEA) and analysed by the Bankwest Curtin Economic Centre (BCEC) found women in key management roles working full-time earned an annual average of $244,569 while men earned $343,269."

Surely one of the 1000 monkeys that types your posts can read at least a little?

"Working full-time" still leaves some ambiguity.  I read that in Australia, 38 hours a week is considered full-time work.  As a result, there's a good deal of room for some to spend more hours working than others.

Source?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: davedan on April 09, 2016, 03:06:21 am
I have a quick question: does it take into account hours worked?
Here's a novel idea. Try reading it and finding out for yourself.

After all it's in the third paragraph: "Data collected by the Workplace Gender Equality Agency (WGEA) and analysed by the Bankwest Curtin Economic Centre (BCEC) found women in key management roles working full-time earned an annual average of $244,569 while men earned $343,269."

Surely one of the 1000 monkeys that types your posts can read at least a little?

"Working full-time" still leaves some ambiguity.  I read that in Australia, 38 hours a week is considered full-time work.  As a result, there's a good deal of room for some to spend more hours working than others.

Source?

Don't you know Tol he's an expert on other countries and how they work. For instance he is an expert on the laws of Canada. Which are all wrong even though he isn't sure what is wrong in detail. But seeing as it isn't just like the USA it must be wrong.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on April 09, 2016, 04:16:49 am
I read in Cracked that Australia is a "Monster Island" where "everything wants to kill you (http://www.cracked.com/funny-163-australia/)" but in my suburb we've only got two possums and while they reputedly have a nasty scratch you'd be more sorry if they weed on you.

It won't kill you but you'll wish it did.

Also my employer don't count administration time as part of my working hours so my 38 hour week...aint.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: ironbite on April 09, 2016, 10:02:05 am
*munches popcorn*

So UP doesn't understand the concept of working full time eh?  Cause that's what I'm getting.

Ironbite-which just amuses me so fucking much.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: TheContrarian on April 09, 2016, 10:09:47 am
I think you're better off pretending Australia doesn't exist.

That also works as a general statement of reality.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: mellenORL on April 09, 2016, 10:21:23 am
Nope. Make him see Australia. It is quite a lot similar in basic ways to America. The people are easy for even a dense Texan to understand and relate to.

The women work less/"missing hours" issue is resolved by this, UP; Maternity Leave IS PAID LEAVE in Oz, like it is in every civilized nation on Earth 'cept 'Murrica. Getting the next generation off to a healthy and well-adjusted start from birth is an actual  Family Value worth paying for. Employers there do not begrudge it.

The senior manager salary difference shown is huge, comparing apples to apples, but the apples with stems on them get a third to half again more than apples without that appendage. This was found to be after conducting an absolutely massive study of nearly half of a modern, English-speaking capitalist democratic nation's workforce over a 10 year period. How the fuck do you argue against it? There's no meaningful cultural difference for this specific point, there is no language barrier to understanding the report or data.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 09, 2016, 11:38:00 am
Yeah, the lack of paid maternity leave is a serious problem.  But I'm still skeptical that the wage gap actually is what it's often claimed to be.  The BLS has shown that measuring by hourly earnings (http://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/cps/highlights-of-womens-earnings-in-2013.pdf) makes the pay gap considerably smaller.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: ironbite on April 09, 2016, 12:21:59 pm
The reason you're skeptical is because you're an idiot.

Ironbite-but that's ok, we'll keep reminding you of that fact.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: pyro on April 09, 2016, 12:57:29 pm
I think you're better off pretending Australia doesn't exist.

That also works as a general statement of reality.

I would ask you to suck my dick, but I'm afraid you'd try to bite it off.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: mellenORL on April 09, 2016, 01:31:56 pm
Yeah, the lack of paid maternity leave is a serious problem.  But I'm still skeptical that the wage gap actually is what it's often claimed to be.  The BLS has shown that measuring by hourly earnings (http://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/cps/highlights-of-womens-earnings-in-2013.pdf) makes the pay gap considerably smaller.

Have you read through that report? It is broad sided and less apples-to-apples specific like the cited Oz report. But the BLS report still makes the case over and over again, using various criteria and job categories and race and age as well as sex that women consistently earn less for the same work than men. That is not reporting that the problem is "more nuanced" than "we" think it is, that is not reporting that the problem is subtle, that is not an exaggerated finding -over and over again using myriad criteria - and that is not a politicized report. But the BLS is ham fisting your own stupidity back down your own throat.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on April 09, 2016, 01:36:32 pm
Considerably smaller doesn't mean nonexistent, whichever part of the UP gestalt entity you happen to be.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Canadian Mojo on April 09, 2016, 01:47:22 pm
Considerably smaller doesn't mean nonexistent, whichever part of the UP gestalt entity you happen to be.

But if it's less than a 35% difference it's not significant enough to worry about... or does that number only apply to bigoted game reviews?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 09, 2016, 01:56:52 pm
Considerably smaller doesn't mean nonexistent, whichever part of the UP gestalt entity you happen to be.

I never said it did.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on April 09, 2016, 02:59:09 pm
I pop in to see what's going on in here... UP stop being an idiot. If you want to know how other countries do stuff ask the people who live there or study. You have too many misconceptions about these things because you don't try to see things from another pov. Which shows up as several other problems.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Eiki-mun on April 09, 2016, 03:06:12 pm
I pop in to see what's going on in here... UP stop being an idiot. If you want to know how other countries do stuff ask the people who live there or study. You have too many misconceptions about these things because you don't try to see things from another pov. Which shows up as several other problems.

I would say his primary problem is his inability to accept when he's lost and concede an argument. I see it time and time again lately - he'll get soundly thrashed, concede a point, but then say "but THIS", and sometimes eventually return to his original point that he already lost a week ago. I don't think it's intentional, I think he truly desires not to lose, and he'll do anything not to lose - change topics, search for sources (while barely skimming them and hoping they prove his point), and of course, the infamous "truce".
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 09, 2016, 03:11:37 pm
I pop in to see what's going on in here... UP stop being an idiot. If you want to know how other countries do stuff ask the people who live there or study. You have too many misconceptions about these things because you don't try to see things from another pov. Which shows up as several other problems.

I wasn't asking about other countries.  Dave was the one who brought up Australia.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: mellenORL on April 09, 2016, 05:07:46 pm
And you were the one who accidentally discharged that BLS shotgun of a report into your own mouth.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on April 09, 2016, 06:38:37 pm
I think you're better off pretending Australia doesn't exist.

That also works as a general statement of reality.

I would ask you to suck my dick, but I'm afraid you'd try to bite it off.
Oh be kind to Mr Top Hat, the chaps at his London club are still reeling after losing that Empire thingy of theirs. Being reminded that one of their colonies rode out the banking crisis while their economy was being kicked in the bollocks is hard on them.

It's like Suez all over again!
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 09, 2016, 07:44:15 pm
And you were the one who accidentally discharged that BLS shotgun of a report into your own mouth.

Really now.

Quote
Sixty-two percent of women and 56 percent of men employed in wage and salary jobs were paid by the hour in 2013. Women who were paid hourly rates had median hourly earnings of $12.12, which was 87 percent of the median for men paid by the hour ($14.00). (See tables 8 and 11.)

You see that?  87% of the median.  That's a full ten percentage points higher than the "77 cents on the dollar" claim.  That's still a problem, but considerably less of one than what's frequently claimed.

Moreover, it seems like the problem has already gotten a lot better:

Quote
Between 1979 and 2013, women’s-to-men’s earnings ratios rose for most age groups. Among 25- to 34-year-olds, for example, the ratio increased from 68 percent in 1979 to 89 percent in 2013, while the ratio for 45- to 54-year-olds increased from 57 percent to 77 percent.

Hell, it's actually outpaced the growth for men:

Quote
Between 1979 and 2013, inflation-adjusted earnings (also called constant-dollar earnings) rose by 31 percent for White women, compared with an increase of 20 percent for Black women and 15 percent for Hispanic women. In contrast, inflation adjusted earnings for White and Black men declined slightly (1 percent and 2 percent, respectively) from 1979 to 2013, and Hispanic men’s earnings fell by 9 percent.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on April 09, 2016, 07:51:29 pm
Yeah, the lack of paid maternity leave is a serious problem.  But I'm still skeptical that the wage gap actually is what it's often claimed to be.  The BLS has shown that measuring by hourly earnings (http://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/cps/highlights-of-womens-earnings-in-2013.pdf) makes the pay gap considerably smaller.
That's still a problem, but considerably less of one than what's frequently claimed.

What it's often claimed to be...by who exactly?

Set up a straw opponent and then say that the pay gap is "considerably smaller" than what whoever, or whatever "often claimed" it was.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: mellenORL on April 09, 2016, 07:58:07 pm
I'm so proud that I as an old white woman am one of the reigning supreme elites all of a fucking sudden.

Seriously, that is not how stats work in an argument. 2013 was three years ago. The conservitard/manosphere "gotcha!" about 77% being out of date came out the same year. About people in previous years citing the prior BLS publication on the same page which stated 77% when it was published.

Pump another cartridge in, dipshit.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 09, 2016, 08:03:30 pm
Yeah, the lack of paid maternity leave is a serious problem.  But I'm still skeptical that the wage gap actually is what it's often claimed to be.  The BLS has shown that measuring by hourly earnings (http://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/cps/highlights-of-womens-earnings-in-2013.pdf) makes the pay gap considerably smaller.
That's still a problem, but considerably less of one than what's frequently claimed.

What it's often claimed to be...by who exactly?

Set up a straw opponent and then say that the pay gap is "considerably smaller" than what whoever, or whatever "often claimed" it was.

You're Australian, so it's understandable that you don't know.  See, a common claim is that women make only 77% of what men make, which is one even the President has repeated:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2014/04/09/president-obamas-persistent-77-cent-claim-on-the-wage-gap-gets-a-new-pinocchio-rating/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2014/04/09/president-obamas-persistent-77-cent-claim-on-the-wage-gap-gets-a-new-pinocchio-rating/)

Seriously, that is not how stats work in an argument. 2013 was three years ago. The conservitard/manosphere "gotcha!" about 77% being out of date came out the same year. About people in previous years citing the prior BLS publication on the same page which stated 77% when it was published.

I'm not entirely clear on what you mean.  Are you saying the manosphere was attempting to retroactively criticize based on information not available at the time?  Just want to make it clear.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on April 09, 2016, 10:11:30 pm
Yeah, the lack of paid maternity leave is a serious problem.  But I'm still skeptical that the wage gap actually is what it's often claimed to be.  The BLS has shown that measuring by hourly earnings (http://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/cps/highlights-of-womens-earnings-in-2013.pdf) makes the pay gap considerably smaller.
That's still a problem, but considerably less of one than what's frequently claimed.

What it's often claimed to be...by who exactly?

Set up a straw opponent and then say that the pay gap is "considerably smaller" than what whoever, or whatever "often claimed" it was.

You're Australian, so it's understandable that you don't know.  See, a common claim is that women make only 77% of what men make, which is one even the President has repeated:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2014/04/09/president-obamas-persistent-77-cent-claim-on-the-wage-gap-gets-a-new-pinocchio-rating/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2014/04/09/president-obamas-persistent-77-cent-claim-on-the-wage-gap-gets-a-new-pinocchio-rating/)
Now that's an interesting notion, numbers have passports now? And there was me thinking that the only number Americans had bagsied was one, also identifying the obscure source of figure as being your flipping commander in chief might have been helpful at the start of the discussion, but I digress.

See, if you had gone to the Washington Post's source you would have read that the president made two similarly worded but quite different claims at two different times and you would have read this (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/jul/15/politifact-sheet-gender-pay-gap/):

Quote
In his 2012 re-election run, an ad for President Barack Obama claimed "Women (are) paid 77 cents on the dollar for doing the same work as men." That rated Mostly False.

But Obama retooled his words in his 2014 State of the Union address, saying women "still make 77 cents for every dollar a man earns." That rated Mostly True.

See here's the thing, the latter claim that women on average make less than men across the board is true. And that's still a problem, because it's been shown that simply being in an industry with increasing female representation causes the pay to dip (http://www.cnbc.com/2016/03/21/as-women-take-over-a-male-dominated-field-the-pay-drops.html). Which kind of sucks for teachers, nurses, waiters and the like whether they're women or men but sucks for women more because more of them are seeing their wages stagnate.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on April 10, 2016, 07:18:18 pm
Quote from: LordElthibar again
I can't believe it. There has been attack after attack on our peaceful communities and yet America does nothing about ISIS! NOTHING!!! Obama is weak and has no spine to do anything. And when ISIS attacks America, the liberal scum only hijack the incident for their freaking gun control policies! More harassment and stupidity from these ill educated maggots is growing on my nerves!

They falsely claim that Christianity hindered human development when in fact the Christian world was actually more developed than the pagan world that was seeking to destroy them. Not only that but the atheists lack the honor and courage to admit that Hitler was one of them and yet refuse to take responsibility and blame Hitler on Christianity! Hitler's private talks were about eliminating Hitler's foes including Christianity. Plus there is a reason he shut down religious institutions all over Germany and claimed that the Jews were near apes. Does that sound like Christianity? No, it's the theory of evolution which has given birth to the ideals of racial dominance and massacre of tens of thousands and even threatens to tear our communities apart today as our educational system declines as God is kicked out!

Christianity brought about the scientific revolution, the renaissance eras, as well as the abolition of slavery! What good has any of these secular ideals done? If we don't stand for something true and take a stand of brute force against ISIS, they will overrun us! These movements against us and the foundation of our civilizations are a catastrophe! We must act now!

The West used to be the center of the world, now these policies and scrambling for power from both Christaphobic secularists and self-righteous religious bigots have turned our countries into yet another political bower grabbing hell hole like Rome! When are we going to wake up?

- the USA performs drone strikes in the Middle East constantly

- the conservatives hijack terrorist attacks for their Islamophobic policies

- the Arabs gave us fucking numbers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_numerals), cockend

- modern atheists aren't responsible for Hitler the same way modern Christians aren't for the Inquisition

- either your God is omnipotent, therefore he can't be kicked out of anything, or your god is weaksauce and can't actually do anything worth worship

- yeah, because no religion has had racism as a doctrine, what an insipid notion (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_people_and_Mormonism)

- Christianity also brought us the Inquisition, institutional homophobia and the protection of child molesters, you ain't shit

- the West was never the center of the world you conceited fuckbag
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 10, 2016, 09:27:00 pm
Yeah, the centre of the world was usually either Asia or somewhere near the Fertile Crescent, until relatively recently.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: pyro on April 10, 2016, 09:33:52 pm
Christians fought both sides of the war over slavery.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on April 11, 2016, 12:05:41 am
(http://i.imgur.com/D0Qu0VS.jpg)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: lord gibbon on April 11, 2016, 12:12:19 am
except... all of those are correct.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on April 11, 2016, 12:19:37 am
except... all of those are correct.

I had to go and check if I had mixed up the terms again, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_and_gender_distinction nope. My point was that the comments are making fun of a transperson. ...Also, sperm does not define "your child" unless you would never consider an adopted child or a step-child to be your own child.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 11, 2016, 12:25:13 am
except... all of those are correct.

I had to go and check if I had mixed up the terms again, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_and_gender_distinction nope. My point was that the comments are making fun of a transperson. ...Also, sperm does not define "your child" unless you would never consider an adopted child or a step-child to be your own child.

Knowing that dipshit, they probably don't.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: lord gibbon on April 11, 2016, 12:29:47 am
Yeah, I meant that all the "stupid" examples are perfectly legitimate to say. Sorry if I wasn't clear.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: TheContrarian on April 11, 2016, 01:55:48 pm
- Christianity also brought us the Inquisition, institutional homophobia and the protection of child molesters

Sounds horrible.  I'm just so glad there's a delightful progressive social movement like Islam we can turn to in order to save us from such monstrous acts...
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: ironbite on April 11, 2016, 02:19:22 pm
Or you just don't have to be religious in order to lead a fulfilling life.

Ironbite-just a thought.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: TheContrarian on April 11, 2016, 02:27:44 pm
Yeah but when someone says "I'm not religious" what they actually mean is "I FUCKING HATE MUSLIMS BURN THEM ALL 14/88!!!one!".
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on April 11, 2016, 05:48:47 pm
Yeah but when someone says "I'm not religious" what they actually mean is "I FUCKING HATE MUSLIMS BURN THEM ALL 14/88!!!one!".
I think this is Conty getting his categories muddled up again.

Feminists, Nazis, atheists, Australians, progressives and Muslims are different things  Contrarian.

They aren't all some hideous indistinguishable blob come to force you to let darkies and ladies into your club and make you pay your telly licence.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: ironbite on April 11, 2016, 06:02:27 pm
Could a blob come and eat his face?

Ironbite-and UP's many faces?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: TheContrarian on April 12, 2016, 04:34:11 pm
Yeah but when someone says "I'm not religious" what they actually mean is "I FUCKING HATE MUSLIMS BURN THEM ALL 14/88!!!one!".
I think this is Conty getting his categories muddled up again.

Feminists, Nazis, atheists, Australians, progressives and Muslims are different things  Contrarian.

They aren't all some hideous indistinguishable blob come to force you to let darkies and ladies into your club and make you pay your telly licence.

Don't make me break out the Venn Diagrams.

Besides, I refuse to pay for a TV license.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: davedan on April 12, 2016, 05:08:52 pm
Yeah but when someone says "I'm not religious" what they actually mean is "I FUCKING HATE MUSLIMS BURN THEM ALL 14/88!!!one!".
I think this is Conty getting his categories muddled up again.

Feminists, Nazis, atheists, Australians, progressives and Muslims are different things  Contrarian.

They aren't all some hideous indistinguishable blob come to force you to let darkies and ladies into your club and make you pay your telly licence.

Don't make me break out the Venn Diagrams.

Besides, I refuse to pay for a TV license.

Just because your mum pays for the TV license, after all it's her house.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: dpareja on April 16, 2016, 12:06:57 am
On North Carolina's House Bill 2 (http://www.ncleg.net/Sessions/2015E2/Bills/House/PDF/H2v1.pdf) and Executive Order No. 93 (https://ncgovernor.s3.amazonaws.com/s3fs-public/documents/files/McCrory%20EO%2093_0.pdf):

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As a resident of North Carolina, if you want to just jump on the media bandwagon and not bring business here, then thats your right to do so. The state passed the law in response to a ridiculous ordinance that the city of Charlotte passed first that basically stated all bathrooms, locker rooms, etc are unisex and nobody can stop a man or woman from going into any of them. Do you see how this might be a problem? It opens up avenues for predators and sex offenders to use and abuse (mainly men abusing mainly women and children, none of which are LGBT). The state law had nothing to do with the LGBT community. It just affected them. Feel free to call it punished for the sins of another or whatever you want, but if you really can't accept it please just stay out of NC. Maybe the average IQ will rise.

EDIT:

Further posts from this person on this topic:

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All the state law did was repeal the ordinance and put things back to the way they've always been. It added no additional risk that wasn't already there. Do you have a wife or a daughter? Would you be ok with a man standing in their locker room watching them get undressed while nobody could do anything about it? That's basically the ordinance that Charlotte passed. Maybe your answer is, "well they just wouldn't go there". Well, then that business is hurt.

Bottom line is everyone deserves the right to go to the restroom, locker room, etc. without fear of being harassed or assaulted. However, there is a way to go about it, and the Charlotte ordinance was not the way to do it.

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I specifically stated that the LGBT community was not the aim of the bill. I am fully aware the majority of molesters/rapist/abusers fit into the category of straight white middle-aged men.

Again, it is a shame that there are human beings still being assaulted and harassed, and I hope one day we can find a way to protect everyone regardless of classifications.

However, the ordinance that the city of Charlotte enacted is not the answer, and it needed to be repealed.

This is the last I will comment on this issue. I have my opinion and all the people here are entitled to theirs. I do live in the area though, and as a resident I am for the NC state law. If that peace of mind costs me a couple magic events locally every year I think I can live with that. Once all the media attention blows over and turns to something else nobody will care.

And someone else:

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No one is saying the trans community wants the law so they can go oogle children. But, because of the way the laws are written, perverts can cite the law as an excuse to go where they should not be allowed. This is happening already in California and other places where these laws exist. Go google it and start reading some of the news stories, it will turn your stomach.

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Seriously. We need to defend the rights of the people least able to defend themselves, children.

While this law sucks for trans people, it's nessecary for the protection of children until a better solution can be found. Maybe you're not aware of the weirdos already citing this law (in California and other places) to use womens changing rooms and restrooms when it's clear the law wasn't implemented for them, and they're just abusing it, but its becoming a real problem, I urge you to google it and start reading, then ask yourself if you're ok letting your small children be around these people.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: mellenORL on April 16, 2016, 12:06:47 pm
Gee, I couldn't find anything about that except second hand cited squalling with no links to articles other than more anecdotal squalling with no links to actual police reports or complaints.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: I am lizard on April 16, 2016, 12:09:57 pm
(http://40.media.tumblr.com/99119eedee1e397f1bdefff28851d8af/tumblr_o5ojs6CXZr1tfexn9o1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: mellenORL on April 16, 2016, 12:25:45 pm
"lion-against-sjw"

(http://i.imgur.com/yQnZZU7.png)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: pyro on April 16, 2016, 12:32:55 pm
You know, if the law had been based on legal gender instead of birth sex there'd be fewer complaints. The fact that they went to the trouble to define it that way means they were aiming it at trans people, and anyone who says otherwise either hasn't done their homework or is dishonest.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: mellenORL on April 16, 2016, 01:14:26 pm
The infuriating but potentially darkly hilarious irony is that transitioning, fully transitioned, and transitioned-plus SRS post-op transpeople will be legally obligated to enter the bathroom opposite to their physically apparent and/or surgically reassigned anatomical sex.

Fundie heads 'splode all over the place in 3.....2.....1.....
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ironchew on April 16, 2016, 01:35:23 pm
The infuriating but potentially darkly hilarious irony is that transitioning, fully transitioned, and transitioned-plus SRS post-op transpeople will be legally obligated to enter the bathroom opposite to their physically apparent and/or surgically reassigned anatomical sex.

Fundie heads 'splode all over the place in 3.....2.....1.....

Or, y'know, they won't.

Bigots can handle a slight bit of ew-gross inconvenience if it means trans people are continuously harrassed and threatened with death for participating in society. These laws further facilitate that; your imagined scenario would only be used as an opportunity for more harrassment.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: mellenORL on April 16, 2016, 02:26:26 pm
I never said it would not be used for further harassment, but consider that fundies are also entirely too fearful, ignorant, and two-faced to not complain that the legislation failed to protect them, while allegedly protecting them, from eww gross moments. Keep in mind, this exact situation is going to come up IRL, and the transpeople who very exactingly and deliberately obey the letter of that law will do so, ironically enough, as a form of completely law abiding yet effective "civil disobedience", and produce even more sociopolitical momentum to rescind that law.

I think your opinion that bigots can or will tolerate it is naïve.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: pyro on April 16, 2016, 05:22:49 pm
Or they'll just blame the SRS, and move on to trying to ban that.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 16, 2016, 07:22:45 pm
(http://oi68.tinypic.com/6fupsm.jpg)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Skybison on April 16, 2016, 07:57:06 pm
From the files of Shit That Never Happened:

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I’m no looker; 5’10” and about a buck-fifty; bald (been rocking the skinhead since college) and in my early 40s.  I threw up a flag – put the TRUMP t-shirt on and walked around like I owned the fucking place.  Over two days I had 4 cute girls, none older than 21, come up to tell me they liked my shirt (for the record, I got one positive comment from another father, and one smart-ass remark from a 65+ cat lady hag working at the on-site Starbucks – I told the cunt to make my coffee great).  Yeah I gave the cute girls some friendly banter and invoked a little very mild dread game with my wife, but this is the point: there are still good (as good as they come anyway) White girls out there just waiting to be taken and lead.  The quality ones are the ones with latent race-realism in their naughty little hearts. And any real man is going to want a brood of little sh*tlords one day.  I doubt any one of those girls would have approached me back in my go-along-and-get-along-beta-gentleman days.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: dpareja on April 16, 2016, 08:18:28 pm
More bullshit from North Carolina:

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Its sad that companies only see 1 side of this...... why should woman and children have to be exposed to opposite genders in their bathrooms. whats next are we going to add urinals to the womans restroom?? if LGBT people feel afraid then push for a law that requires all places to have 3 bathrooms or requires all public places to have a single occupant Unisex bathroom next to the normal bathrooms.. but protecting children should be the #1 concern not protection a very small Minority of a Minority who feel that they should be treated special.... And any company that boycotts North Carolina is just saying we only care about LGBT people we don't care about children and its a sad precident that these companies are setting....

(reply to previous)

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[Name], because the other side is dictated and fueled by emotionalism. There has never been an issue before until a local town decided to make all public bathrooms uni-sex, which is rather extreme and ignorant to do towards those many others who would be uncomfortable having their children go alone into a public restroom. The State is looking at this from the point of view of protecting children, nothing more. If grown adults who dress up as the opposite sex can't handle that, they are the ones who are the true bigots. For every legit trans person, there are 4 others who are 100% their birth gender and are simply acting out in the opposite sex because their mental state has not been addressed. Self identification has gone to the extreme due to poltical correctness. I say have a public bathroom for each sex and a 3rd bathroom that is open to anyone, then people can make their own choice based on their own convictions.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Dakota Bob on April 16, 2016, 09:09:14 pm
From the files of Shit That Never Happened:

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I’m no looker; 5’10” and about a buck-fifty; bald (been rocking the skinhead since college) and in my early 40s.  I threw up a flag – put the TRUMP t-shirt on and walked around like I owned the fucking place.  Over two days I had 4 cute girls, none older than 21, come up to tell me they liked my shirt (for the record, I got one positive comment from another father, and one smart-ass remark from a 65+ cat lady hag working at the on-site Starbucks – I told the cunt to make my coffee great).  Yeah I gave the cute girls some friendly banter and invoked a little very mild dread game with my wife, but this is the point: there are still good (as good as they come anyway) White girls out there just waiting to be taken and lead.  The quality ones are the ones with latent race-realism in their naughty little hearts. And any real man is going to want a brood of little sh*tlords one day.  I doubt any one of those girls would have approached me back in my go-along-and-get-along-beta-gentleman days.

Yeah, I'm sure this guy is an absolute pussy destroyer.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on April 16, 2016, 09:21:33 pm
From the files of Shit That Never Happened:

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I’m no looker; 5’10” and about a buck-fifty; bald (been rocking the skinhead since college) and in my early 40s.  I threw up a flag – put the TRUMP t-shirt on and walked around like I owned the fucking place.  Over two days I had 4 cute girls, none older than 21, come up to tell me they liked my shirt (for the record, I got one positive comment from another father, and one smart-ass remark from a 65+ cat lady hag working at the on-site Starbucks – I told the cunt to make my coffee great).  Yeah I gave the cute girls some friendly banter and invoked a little very mild dread game with my wife, but this is the point: there are still good (as good as they come anyway) White girls out there just waiting to be taken and lead.  The quality ones are the ones with latent race-realism in their naughty little hearts. And any real man is going to want a brood of little sh*tlords one day.  I doubt any one of those girls would have approached me back in my go-along-and-get-along-beta-gentleman days.

Yeah, I'm sure this guy is an absolute pussy destroyer.
LADIES!
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Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: rookie on April 16, 2016, 09:45:11 pm
Oh, now that's boyfriend material.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: mellenORL on April 16, 2016, 09:51:11 pm
Hawt!
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: rageaholic on April 17, 2016, 01:28:49 am
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I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but McCarthy was 100% correct.

The liberal media has smeared his name for over half a century for one reason only: he found them out.

Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Dakota Bob on April 17, 2016, 08:13:10 am
Hell, I'd fuck that guy.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 17, 2016, 09:51:43 am
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I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but McCarthy was 100% correct.

The liberal media has smeared his name for over half a century for one reason only: he found them out.



As someone who's borderline communist, this guy can eat a dick.  McCarthy was a fucking delusional psychopath.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Vinroke on April 17, 2016, 10:53:04 am
(http://oi68.tinypic.com/6fupsm.jpg)

I see shit like that all the time. Off the top of my head, things white's didn't invent/breakthrough;

Gunpowder
Arabic numerals
The Astrolabe
Algebra
Trigonometery
Aspheric Lenses
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on April 17, 2016, 11:21:54 am
Heart transplants, traffic lights...
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on April 17, 2016, 12:21:17 pm
Tea...
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: mellenORL on April 17, 2016, 03:57:47 pm
Also not discovered or invented by whites - Written language, glass making, agriculture, mining, refining, smelting and forming iron copper bronze and steel, gem cutting, ceramics, basic pottery and the earliest plant based textiles. That is, unless you consider ancient pre Sumerian people in the Middle East and southern Mediterranean, ancient north and east Africans, proto Chinese people of the great Steppes and early peoples of the Indian subcontinent to be "white".
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on April 17, 2016, 08:00:34 pm
Quote from: tumblr user church-of-no-recess
you cannot support trans gals and be against shoplifting.

the anti-shoplifting fandom is fundamentally transmisogynistic.

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the withholding of those sorts of essential goods needed for survival (food, water, clothing, cosmetics, etc) is an act of violence that kills trans gals.

Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: ironbite on April 17, 2016, 08:02:24 pm
......AFLJDASLFJUADSOFUJEAWLRFJASLDIOHFSIOJFKASDLKSJD

Ironbite-sorry I blue screened there.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on April 17, 2016, 08:33:16 pm
Apparently their argument is "trans women get beaten and killed more often when they don't adequately perform femininity, therefore makeup is a survival essential and you're transphobic if you say that it's wrong to steal it".
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: mellenORL on April 17, 2016, 09:15:49 pm
It is a survival as well as a self expression and self esteem need, but it would be better to organize a co-op and approach cosmetic companies and retailers about donating samples, and maybe set up a patreon or something for it. Jail is definitely not a place for transwomen, especially since they typically put you in with the men or just try to destroy your sanity by locking you in a "protective isolation unit", aka solitary confinement, aka the guards' secret rape and torture room.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Sigmaleph on April 17, 2016, 11:02:12 pm
Quote from: tumblr user church-of-no-recess
you cannot support trans gals and be against shoplifting.

the anti-shoplifting fandom is fundamentally transmisogynistic.

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the withholding of those sorts of essential goods needed for survival (food, water, clothing, cosmetics, etc) is an act of violence that kills trans gals.

um.

um...

what the fuck,
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Skybison on April 17, 2016, 11:10:29 pm
Okay what percentage of the shoplifting fandumb are trans to begin with?  Because even if I decide to make an exception for a poor trans person, are you personally trans?  Cause if not you are still an asshole.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: pyro on April 17, 2016, 11:12:41 pm
Okay what percentage of the shoplifting fandumb are trans to begin with?  Because even if I decide to make an exception for a poor trans person, are you personally trans?  Cause if not you are still an asshole.

Emphasis on the word poor.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on April 18, 2016, 10:12:29 am
Topic is started with the claim that feminism "destroys nations" and after a long back and forth on who has the burden of proof we finally get this:

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Feminism is largely responsible for the critically low native birth rates in Western countries. While this doesn't literally "kill you", it does mean that you have a lowered probability of being born in the first place. Also from a geopolitical perspective, it is very dangerous to see birth rates much higher in one part of the world than another. This is a common cause of invasions and civilizational upheaval because there aren't enough men around to defend their country.

We are shamed into not viewing alien nations as the threats they are to our welfare and way of life. This isn't just stupid, it is extremely dangerous - akin to embracing a poisonous snake because you've been taught it's wrong to turn away any creature.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: mellenORL on April 18, 2016, 10:15:29 am
Is he afraid that a billion Indians or Chinese are going to invade his country, a la the Mongol Horde?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on April 18, 2016, 10:18:35 am
Quote from: tumblr user church-of-no-recess
you cannot support trans gals and be against shoplifting.

the anti-shoplifting fandom is fundamentally transmisogynistic.

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the withholding of those sorts of essential goods needed for survival (food, water, clothing, cosmetics, etc) is an act of violence that kills trans gals.
I mean I can personally understand stealing food and supplies if you're poor.

Sure, if you've got no other choice, then I can understand it. But church and the rest of these fuckends are saying that shoplifting is actually Totally Virtuous and Sticking It To The Man and doesn't actually hurt retail workers (even when retail workers come out with personal accounts of being punished because of shoplifting) and also:

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The villain in this scenario, as should be obvious, is not the shoplifters but the corporations. Like, they’re the ones that price things so as to be unattainable through legal means, and they’re the ones that punish their workers for people shoplifting.

YOU'RE STILL GIVING THEM EXCUSES TO, FUCKCHEESES.

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Private property is theft.

okay brb breaking into your house and taking all of your shit since private property is theft

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“But shoplifting is real!” Nope. They made it up. The truth hurts.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on April 18, 2016, 10:24:51 am
Is he afraid that a billion Indians or Chinese are going to invade his country, a la the Mongol Horde?
Mainly he's scared of Muslims. ...Well he is scared of anyone who isn't white-heterosexual-Christian, but mainly complains Muslims and feminists. ...And blacks, can't forget them when you complain about "inferior races."
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Skybison on April 18, 2016, 11:30:09 am
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The villain in this scenario, as should be obvious, is not the shoplifters but the corporations. Like, they’re the ones that price things so as to be unattainable through legal means, and they’re the ones that punish their workers for people shoplifting.

Hey here's an idea.  How about instead of shoplifting, you get involved in activist groups and fight for a higher minimum wage, stronger unions, a better welfare state and other things that would give you the satisfaction of sticking it to the man but actually help poor people?  Oh but that would require actual work so I guess it's too much to ask.



Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on April 18, 2016, 12:02:52 pm
That would require them to think of retail workers as people. So that's obviously impossible.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: SCarpelan on April 18, 2016, 12:35:31 pm
Or they have the same attitude towards the retail workers as some anarchists have towards the police: since they are working for the oppressor they deserve whatever harm they get. At least the police are trained to defend themselves and aren't as helpless as the retail wage slaves.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on April 18, 2016, 12:46:29 pm
"oh you want to survive in this capitalist society that we're not actually working towards dissolving? well fuck you for not wanting you and your children to slowly starve"

EDIT:

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“but shoplifting hurts retail workers!” retail workers objectively shoplift more than anybody else.

she bases this on one person's personal account, by the way
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on April 18, 2016, 06:41:04 pm
Or they have the same attitude towards the retail workers as some anarchists have towards the police: since they are working for the oppressor they deserve whatever harm they get. At least the police are trained to defend themselves and aren't as helpless as the retail wage slaves.
(Rick Mayall-esque anarchist in a supermarket)STOP OPPRESSING MEEE

(tired, overworked checkout clerk in a bone dry voice)Will that be cash, cheque or card sir?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Iosa the Invincible on April 18, 2016, 08:43:16 pm
Yeah, apparently there's a sizeable "lifting" community on tumblr (and yeah, they did give themselves a sanitized name), and a lot of them are financially stable and aren't exactly poor.  Hell, there were two "lifters" who shoplifted a fucking kitten from a shelter, then proceeded to go to Petsmart and shoplift $300 worth of pet supplies.

http://zooophagous.tumblr.com/post/123341230011/how-we-managed-to-lift-a-cat (http://zooophagous.tumblr.com/post/123341230011/how-we-managed-to-lift-a-cat)

If you want an extra treat, read the notes at the bottom and see all the "lifters" ass patting each other over this.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: pyro on April 18, 2016, 09:26:45 pm
Yeah, apparently there's a sizeable "lifting" community on tumblr (and yeah, they did give themselves a sanitized name), and a lot of them are financially stable and aren't exatctly poor.  Hell, there were two "lifters" who shoplifted a fucking kitten from a shelter, then proceeded to go to Petsmart and shoplift $300 worth of pet supplies.

http://zooophagous.tumblr.com/post/123341230011/how-we-managed-to-lift-a-cat (http://zooophagous.tumblr.com/post/123341230011/how-we-managed-to-lift-a-cat)

If you want an extra treat, read the notes at the bottom and see all the "lifters" ass patting each other over this.

That is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever seen, after the pro-anorexia and delusional (http://www.fstdt.com/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=70784) misandrist (http://www.fstdt.com/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=109284) posts.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: dpareja on April 18, 2016, 09:28:07 pm
I had no idea obeying the law is a "fandom."
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Art Vandelay on April 18, 2016, 10:02:00 pm
Oh yes. Much like how not raping people is a hobby.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Delirium on April 19, 2016, 12:36:01 pm
It really irritates me how some Tumblr leftists have chosen the lifting community as a hill to die on. I don't give a fuck about shoplifting if you're poor and trying to survive, but the Tumblr lifting community is mainly white middle/upper-class kids. The fact that they can even openly post about shoplifting in the first place is white privilege in action.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ghoti on April 20, 2016, 06:30:38 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/8oDqT26.png)
"Hey, if anonymous comments are getting to you, maybe you should turn them off?"
"FUCK YOU WITH A PIECE OF DOGSHIT YOU HEARTLESS MONSTER"

I will never understand the internet.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on April 20, 2016, 06:35:21 pm
To be fair, that whole attitude of "if you don't want to be harassed then it's your fault for letting anons message you, don't take personal insults so personally and grow a thicker skin, see how thick my skin is when I comment on something that has zero bearing on me" is some hot bullshit and I'd be annoyed by it too.

And that's some creative cursing. I aspire to one day be as creative in the sacred art of profanity.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Art Vandelay on April 20, 2016, 08:07:12 pm
I think anon was talking more about how things are rather than how they should be. Sure, in an ideal world people won't anonymously insult* you. However, that is not the world we live in, and demanding they stop is only going to egg them on. If it bothers you that much, then turning off anonymous comments is really the best option. Again, it'd be lovely if no one had to worry about that in the first place, but reality does not work that way, unfortunately.

*Assuming for a moment that is indeed what's happening. To many Tumblrinas seem to think insults and harassment are the same thing as disagreement and criticism. But I digress
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: rageaholic on April 20, 2016, 11:50:09 pm
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You know drinking soda is much worse than drinking beer, smoking, or doing drugs right? it can really damage your body. Honestly drinking soda should be a crime.

 ???
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 21, 2016, 09:52:11 am
Just for that, I'm downing a 2-litre of Mr. Pibb.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: ironbite on April 21, 2016, 10:08:52 am
Woooooow.  Someone's been reading too many stupid things.

Ironbite-someone find the person and bash them over the head with a 2-liter of Mt. Dew.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 23, 2016, 09:59:00 am
(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/108/969/068.jpg)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: mellenORL on April 23, 2016, 11:29:40 am
LUV-LUV-LUV the badly 'shooped on manneries. Hawt!
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: ironbite on April 23, 2016, 12:12:57 pm
And it got him fired from ESPN.

Ironbite-finally.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: rageaholic on April 23, 2016, 06:21:55 pm
Youtube comment exchange from this buzzfeed video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzWHxPxH08Q)

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I find it hard to believe that there are over nine thousand thumbs-downs on this video.   America is even more bigoted than I thought!  Nice video.


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Not agreeing with the video doesn't make someone bigoted. It probably means that they don't like stereotypes

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I disagree.  I can't think of any reason EXCEPT that they are bigots!!!  Sounds like you disagree with the premise of the video and therefore think it is OK to be a bigot!  Has nothing to do with what you call "stereotypes," but everything to do with bigotry.  You must be a Right Winger.

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then what IS the video actually about?

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Msp If you have to ask that question, you OBVIOUSLY did not get the point, and you are part of the problem.

"You're a bigot, I'm not telling you why you're a bigot and if you have to ask, it just proves you're a bigot"

This could also go under things that annoy me. 
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Murdin on April 24, 2016, 08:37:23 am
Youtube comment exchange from this buzzfeed video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzWHxPxH08Q)

"You're a bigot, I'm not telling you why you're a bigot and if you have to ask, it just proves you're a bigot"

This could also go under things that annoy me.

When you consider the poe-ish, Jack-Chick-Liberal-meets-old-memes writing style ("OVER 9000!" "You must be a Right Winger") along with the content of the comment section, it's pretty safe to assume this is a suckpuppet of the strawman persuasion.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: rageaholic on April 24, 2016, 11:59:20 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bWHSpmXEJs

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TRUE NAME OF THIS VIDEO
"I'm lukewarm, but I'm not a Christian"

and it's one of the top rated comments smh
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: rookie on April 24, 2016, 12:31:09 pm
When you consider the poe-ish, Jack-Chick-Liberal-meets-old-memes writing style ("OVER 9000!" "You must be a Right Winger") along with the content of the comment section, it's pretty safe to assume this is a suckpuppet of the strawman persuasion.

I thought always thought the YouTube comment section was troll training. The young trolls go practice there until they think they're ready for other sites. That nobody posts genuine comments on YouTube.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 25, 2016, 11:15:13 pm
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Dear Europe,

You COULD be this badass if you didn't let manipulative and conniving Jews sully your land with useless third-worlders who want nothing to do with the beauty and bounty that your ancestors gave everything to bestow upon you.

Especially you, England. You didn't listen to George Orwell, Aldous Huxley, Oswald Mosley, Enoch Powel, Peter Hitchens, or Nigel Farrage. And now you are paying for it with the tens of thousands of white girls being molested and raped by evil, disgusting Muslims while your boys are told by their teachers that they must become weak and pussified non-men who bend over backwards for feminists while they bend over forwards for Jamal and and Tyrone.

Fucking do something, if you're not already a nation of pathetic cowards who don't deserve to live, let alone call yourselves British.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Skybison on April 25, 2016, 11:21:13 pm
God damn it how do these idiots not get that George Orwell was a freakin socialist?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on April 26, 2016, 12:32:30 am
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You see this shit on KIA?

https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/427k5d/remember_that_sexist_misogynistic_boys_club_that/

It's a link to this article at the L.A. times.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/herocomplex/la-et-hc-usc-women-video-game-design-program-20160124-htmlstory.html

The article glorifies the fact that "At USC, women now outnumber men in video game design graduate program".

Why the fuck is this a good thing? Why the fuck are you retards agreeing with this bullshit?

SJW's are calling videogames sexist, and your answer to that is to say "No we aren't, look how not sexist we are! In fact, women play video-games as much as men, and now there are more women in videogame design!"

This is why you fuckers are loosing. You are implicitly giving them legitimacy by agreeing to their narrative. The fuck is wrong with you people?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 26, 2016, 12:36:10 am
God damn it how do these idiots not get that George Orwell was a freakin socialist?

They probably knew he was anti-communist and thought "communism and socialism are the same thing, right?"
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 26, 2016, 09:20:54 am
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You see this shit on KIA?

https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/427k5d/remember_that_sexist_misogynistic_boys_club_that/

It's a link to this article at the L.A. times.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/herocomplex/la-et-hc-usc-women-video-game-design-program-20160124-htmlstory.html

The article glorifies the fact that "At USC, women now outnumber men in video game design graduate program".

Why the fuck is this a good thing? Why the fuck are you retards agreeing with this bullshit?

SJW's are calling videogames sexist, and your answer to that is to say "No we aren't, look how not sexist we are! In fact, women play video-games as much as men, and now there are more women in videogame design!"

This is why you fuckers are loosing. You are implicitly giving them legitimacy by agreeing to their narrative. The fuck is wrong with you people?

Right, because women can't be skilled engineers.  I guess Sleepy's just randomly flailing at the keyboard when she works, fixing bug after bug like a god damned boss.  Seriously, if the best person qualified for a job is a woman, I'll hire that woman.  If the best person is a man, then I'll hire him.  Increasing the pool of available engineers can only be a good thing; the more engineers you have, the more good engineers are available.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on April 26, 2016, 09:27:08 am
Right, because women can't be skilled engineers.  I guess Sleepy's just randomly flailing at the keyboard when she works, fixing bug after bug like a god damned boss.  Seriously, if the best person qualified for a job is a woman, I'll hire that woman.  If the best person is a man, then I'll hire him.  Increasing the pool of available engineers can only be a good thing; the more engineers you have, the more good engineers are available.

You are missing the point. He doesn't even claim that women can't be good engineers. In his opinion the existence of women (and therefore feminism and SJWs) in engineering is bad enough on its own. It's the "narrative" that is wrong because if people acknowledge that women play and make games, if people acknowledge that video games aren't inherently sexists then feminists win. And that's what he is afraid of.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 26, 2016, 09:32:12 am
Right, because women can't be skilled engineers.  I guess Sleepy's just randomly flailing at the keyboard when she works, fixing bug after bug like a god damned boss.  Seriously, if the best person qualified for a job is a woman, I'll hire that woman.  If the best person is a man, then I'll hire him.  Increasing the pool of available engineers can only be a good thing; the more engineers you have, the more good engineers are available.

You are missing the point. He doesn't even claim that women can't be good engineers. In his opinion the existence of women (and therefore feminism and SJWs) in engineering is bad enough on its own. It's the "narrative" that is wrong because if people acknowledge that women play and make games, if people acknowledge that video games aren't inherently sexists then feminists win. And that's what he is afraid of.

To be fair, my brain partially shuts down when reading crap like that.  Also, that's hilarious.  What do you wanna bet this little cretin doesn't know the first thing about engineering and just thinks computers are glowing boxes of magic that exist to do his bidding?

[Cretin Mode]You know, like a woman, except it doesn't talk back.[/Cretin Mode]
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 27, 2016, 12:41:26 am
In this installment of "Shit Tankies Say", we have Khmer Rouge apologia!

http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/09/18/pol-pot-revisited/ (http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/09/18/pol-pot-revisited/)

Here are a few highlights:

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Cambodia’s population was not halved but more than doubled since 1970, despite alleged multiple genocides. Apparently, the genocidaires were inept, or their achievements have been greatly exaggerated.

Yeah, the population doubled, but only thanks to a baby boom after 1985.  As can be seen by this graph:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Pyramide_Cambodge.PNG/640px-Pyramide_Cambodge.PNG)

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He had one great ambition: to terminate the failing colonial capitalism in Cambodia, return to village tradition, and from there, to build a new country from scratch.

By the time Pol Pot came to power, Cambodia had been independent for more than 20 years.

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Pol Pot commanded everybody away from the city and to the rice paddies, to plant rice. This was a harsh, but a necessary step, and in a year Cambodia had plenty of rice, enough to feed all and even to sell some surplus to buy necessary commodities.

Then why were so many people starving to death under his regime?

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Noam Chomsky assessed that the death toll in Cambodia may have been inflated “by a factor of a thousand.”

You're ignoring the inconvenient fact that Chomsky has since admitted he was wrong.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: mellenORL on April 27, 2016, 09:41:37 am
So, once again, you did not read the entirety of the article you linked. You stopped at the first thing you disagree with, hunt quickly for a few more tasty bits, and paste them in your post, arguing against them all completely out of context.

And the graph, conveniently in French, shows percentages of age distribution, not the population totals changing over time. Ratios. Notice there is not a decade or year graph? The only year mentioned is the UN updated it in the year 2004. Notice the boldly highlighted representation of the percentage of the sexes? Notice that the Cambodians have a lot of kids, which is the pattern of every struggling, developing nation on Earth?

You're a moron.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Skybison on April 27, 2016, 12:27:40 pm
No, Ulti is completely right about this one.  An enormous amount of research has gone into the Cambodian genocide and at this point the death toll is about as well established as the holocaust's 6 million figure.  (Speaking of which, the guy who wrote this piece is also holocaust denier and an advocate of The Protocols of Zion.http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Israel_Shamir )

I understand not trusting UP, but I know enough about this one to say that this screed is completely bullshit.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: TheContrarian on April 27, 2016, 01:50:58 pm
An enormous amount of research has gone into the Cambodian genocide and at this point the death toll is about as well established as the holocaust's 6 million figure

[pedant mode]
By which you mean it's vastly understated because it only includes one of the targeted groups?
[/pedant mode]
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on April 27, 2016, 08:44:11 pm
An enormous amount of research has gone into the Cambodian genocide and at this point the death toll is about as well established as the holocaust's 6 million figure

[pedant mode]
By which you mean it's vastly understated because it only includes one of the targeted groups?
[/pedant mode]
The targeted group is itself a little muddy as Pol Pot's hate on was for the Vietnamese. Because the Vietnamese minority in Cambodia is relatively small he compensated by killing Cambodians calling them "Khmer bodies with Vietnamese minds".
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Sigmaleph on April 27, 2016, 10:59:14 pm
So, once again, you did not read the entirety of the article you linked. You stopped at the first thing you disagree with, hunt quickly for a few more tasty bits, and paste them in your post, arguing against them all completely out of context.

And the graph, conveniently in French, shows percentages of age distribution, not the population totals changing over time. Ratios. Notice there is not a decade or year graph? The only year mentioned is the UN updated it in the year 2004. Notice the boldly highlighted representation of the percentage of the sexes? Notice that the Cambodians have a lot of kids, which is the pattern of every struggling, developing nation on Earth?

You're a moron.

The graph does show what UP says?

The person he is replying to implied that because the population has increased since 1970, there was no genocide. The graph shows that in 2005, most of the increase in population was in people under 25, i.e. people born after the genocide.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Skybison on May 02, 2016, 02:24:44 pm
Interesting scientific find: African Elephants can distinguish between different human languages.  Scientists found that when they played recordings of Maasai people (who hunt elephants) Elephants reacted with fear fleeing or moving to protect their young.  But when the played recordings of Kempa people (who don't) they noticed but didn't react.

One smug right wing asshole decided this proves racial profiling is smart

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There is no real difference between an elephant’s heightened sense of alert upon hearing a particular speech pattern over our reaction to hearing dialects identifiable as coming from inner city gangster culture. Skin color? Not a factor. In case you don’t already know this; the Maasai and the Kamba are both black. (Can’t really call them African Americans for obvious reasons. Well … maybe not so obvious to liberals.)

Experience instructs. People -- and elephants -- learn.

When elephants exhibit this behavior in the wild it’s an occasion for marveling at their intelligence. When humans exhibit this behavior in high crime areas, it’s called racism.

Because white people are an endangered species on the verge of extinction.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 02, 2016, 02:51:00 pm
It should go without saying that talking in Ebonics doesn't make you a gangbanger, any more than speaking with a Southern accent makes you a redneck.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: The_Queen on May 02, 2016, 03:09:01 pm
Interesting scientific find: African Elephants can distinguish between different human languages.  Scientists found that when they played recordings of Maasai people (who hunt elephants) Elephants reacted with fear fleeing or moving to protect their young.  But when the played recordings of Kempa people (who don't) they noticed but didn't react.

One smug right wing asshole decided this proves racial profiling is smart

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There is no real difference between an elephant’s heightened sense of alert upon hearing a particular speech pattern over our reaction to hearing dialects identifiable as coming from inner city gangster culture. Skin color? Not a factor. In case you don’t already know this; the Maasai and the Kamba are both black. (Can’t really call them African Americans for obvious reasons. Well … maybe not so obvious to liberals.)

Experience instructs. People -- and elephants -- learn.

When elephants exhibit this behavior in the wild it’s an occasion for marveling at their intelligence. When humans exhibit this behavior in high crime areas, it’s called racism.

Because white people are an endangered species on the verge of extinction.

It's amazing how smart animals are, but people assume they're stupid because they don't talk or build things. I know crows can communicate faces of people to their young, and then the young crows know to avoid those people.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 02, 2016, 03:19:06 pm
Interesting scientific find: African Elephants can distinguish between different human languages.  Scientists found that when they played recordings of Maasai people (who hunt elephants) Elephants reacted with fear fleeing or moving to protect their young.  But when the played recordings of Kempa people (who don't) they noticed but didn't react.

One smug right wing asshole decided this proves racial profiling is smart

Quote
There is no real difference between an elephant’s heightened sense of alert upon hearing a particular speech pattern over our reaction to hearing dialects identifiable as coming from inner city gangster culture. Skin color? Not a factor. In case you don’t already know this; the Maasai and the Kamba are both black. (Can’t really call them African Americans for obvious reasons. Well … maybe not so obvious to liberals.)

Experience instructs. People -- and elephants -- learn.

When elephants exhibit this behavior in the wild it’s an occasion for marveling at their intelligence. When humans exhibit this behavior in high crime areas, it’s called racism.

Because white people are an endangered species on the verge of extinction.

It's amazing how smart animals are, but people assume they're stupid because they don't talk or build things. I know crows can communicate faces of people to their young, and then the young crows know to avoid those people.

It really is amazing.  Did you know that crocodiles have been observed using tools (http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/tetrapod-zoology/tool-use-in-crocodylians-crocodiles-and-alligators-use-sticks-as-lures-to-attract-waterbirds/)?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on May 03, 2016, 12:20:28 am
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(Can’t really call them African Americans for obvious reasons. Well … maybe not so obvious to liberals.)

Because if dem librulz find out that there are African Africans in a continent called Africa their brains will asplode. Librulz ain't gud at that book learning stuff.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Skybison on May 03, 2016, 01:49:41 am
While were on that note, can we get the republicans to change their mascot to something besides Elephants?  Elephants really don't fir them as a party:

1) Elephants are right up there with the Apes for the smartest animals on earth, republicans are anti-science and anti-intellectual.
2) Elephants have possibly the highest level of confirmed altruism and empathy of any animal, republicans are based on bigotry and "fuck you I've got mine" economics.
3) Elephants are matriarchal and frequently engage in homosexual acts, republicans are sexist and homophobic.

And frankly it seems wrong to make your symbol an animal your policies are helping drive into extinction.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: davedan on May 03, 2016, 01:56:09 am
You're absolutely right. The GOP mascot should be a ground vole with a monocle.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on May 03, 2016, 02:31:26 am
Nah.

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Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: davedan on May 03, 2016, 02:53:23 am
Wow that's kind of perfect.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: mellenORL on May 03, 2016, 07:58:42 am
Or maybe this, 'cuz they're slimy, carrion eating pricks addicted to twisted logic

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Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on May 04, 2016, 06:19:34 am
Who's up for a rousing round of telling abuse victims to walk it off? No one? TOO BAD HERE WE GO

Quote from: tumblr user keyhollow
Stop being a victim. Use your experience to learn and grow and perhaps help others. Use it to strengthen yourself and better read situations, understand things around you. Don’t fall into a blubbering mass of self pity and depression. Rise.

(The post that this one was in response to (http://prokopetz.tumblr.com/post/143803470307/if-theres-anything-more-pernicious-than-the), for context.)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on May 04, 2016, 07:56:13 am
Who's up for a rousing round of telling abuse victims to walk it off? No one? TOO BAD HERE WE GO

Quote from: tumblr user keyhollow
Stop being a victim. Use your experience to learn and grow and perhaps help others. Use it to strengthen yourself and better read situations, understand things around you. Don’t fall into a blubbering mass of self pity and depression. Rise.

(The post that this one was in response to (http://prokopetz.tumblr.com/post/143803470307/if-theres-anything-more-pernicious-than-the), for context.)
I don't know if that poster didn't read what he said or did and decided to be an extra festy diseased cock about it.

Not sure which is worse.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on May 04, 2016, 08:30:37 am
Who's up for a rousing round of telling abuse victims to walk it off? No one? TOO BAD HERE WE GO

Quote from: tumblr user keyhollow
Stop being a victim. Use your experience to learn and grow and perhaps help others. Use it to strengthen yourself and better read situations, understand things around you. Don’t fall into a blubbering mass of self pity and depression. Rise.

(The post that this one was in response to (http://prokopetz.tumblr.com/post/143803470307/if-theres-anything-more-pernicious-than-the), for context.)
I don't know if that poster didn't read what he said or did and decided to be an extra festy diseased cock about it.

Not sure which is worse.

Yeah, I was going to say the same thing. Not only did the commenter completely miss the point they did a 180 and a perfect example of what the original poster was complaining about. It's hard to do that by accident but I suppose stranger things have happened.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: pyro on May 04, 2016, 11:29:44 am
More likely, keyhollow knows the post is about them and simply thinks the post is wrong. He probably wouldn't phrase it this way, but it could probably be summarized as "calling people who say 'your mindset makes you weak' unkind is exactly the sort of mindset that makes you weak!"
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on May 05, 2016, 03:24:10 pm
This thing, I'm not sure if the writers were 100% honest or if this is supposed to be ironic or parody or something. The fact that it's from Daily Fail is not helping. Anyway, it's a lot more fun if you imagine Gilbert Gottfried reading it while trying to sound as sarcastic as possible
(http://i.imgur.com/Mp3cqUk.png)

...and ending it by rolling his eyes and going "...Yeah, imagine how the fathers have felt about this before they even got 50% custody."
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: mellenORL on May 05, 2016, 04:01:33 pm
OFFS. Lauren Libbert. Earning her salary by writing brain dead to rights, tone deaf, idiot drivel for The Daily Fail. But I have to admire her oblivious courage. I'd be nearly suicidal with shame if I ever wrote that, unironically.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Dakota Bob on May 05, 2016, 07:52:38 pm
Who fucking gives a shit if your useless father misses you, what about meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: rageaholic on May 06, 2016, 10:17:44 pm
Good and bad.

The good.

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Oh Emma you don't deserve all this hate and backlash from that video undoomed put up.you're a great person,I only met you a couple of times at academy but you were nice and now you're getting all these mean comments from that video.You made a mistake and you get it now you want equality for all not just for women...you are a feminist and that's okay

The bad are the responses.

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Whatever chance you may have had being respected by and/or getting intimate with Emma are now lost forever. Her subcouncious self deems you unfit for reproduction and as a weak representative of the male gender unable to provide and to protect because of your aspiration for female approval from a standing point of perceptional subservience... Ergo:

A mangina simp...

Stop wearing hipster glasses, stop wearing loose pants and tight shirts, but wear tight pants and loose shirts, pump iron you look small (no need to become Arnold, just pump that shit), next time a woman wants to be taken out tell her you dont care what she thinks or wants and that youre not gonna pay for overpriced crap but you will cook for her... then take her home, make her rice with weggies and chicken meat and after that fuck her like a champion...

Shiiiiieeeet Fam! Be a fucking Man bro! You can do it! I was probably an even bigger simp than you! All of us 90s kids were... but now?! My my...

Peace bro, no hard feelings

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Stfu you white knight cuckolding bitch who's ad everything he ever wanted.

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Translation "Oh Emma, please like me and maybe one day I can touch your lady parts"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TK9bWzZDBU


This was the video that inspired this.  Yeah she's such a radical manhating feminist.   ::)

She was discovered by one of those channels that look for obscure/unknown channels to mock (which is admittingly similar to fstdt), but since he has 100K subs, some of his more toxic fans bombard the channels he mocks with nasty comments including rape and death threats.  The uploader of the mocked video usually ends up disabling their comments, deleting their video, or in extreme cases, deleting their whole channel.  The trolls declare victory, accusing their victims of being cowards who can't handle "criticism". 

Though even the "criticism" is BS.  They assume that because someone calls themselves a feminist, they embrace the most toxic elements of the movement.  They'll use that and instances of SJWs and feminists pulling similar stunts to justify their assholery.  To which I say, why not go after them instead of some teenage girl who, as far as they know, has done nothing of that sort?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on May 07, 2016, 12:10:10 am
Expressing sympathy is asking for a fuck now? Do these morons actually believe this?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on May 07, 2016, 12:29:32 am
Expressing sympathy is asking for a fuck now? Do these morons actually believe this?
You see, if you think that the only reason to act nice towards a woman is so that she would have sex with you, then you may assume that everyone else also thinks the same.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 07, 2016, 01:28:13 am
Expressing sympathy is asking for a fuck now? Do these morons actually believe this?
You see, if you think that the only reason to act nice towards a woman is so that she would have sex with you, then you may assume that everyone else also thinks the same.

Exactly.  These people have IMAX levels of projection.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 10, 2016, 02:24:55 pm
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I don't think Hitler was that bad. I mean, he did kill a few million Jews, but that was just par for the course during world war 2. The Japanese did some crazy shit, the Russians killed many more of their own. And if you broaden the scope to a few decades before and after, pretty much every nation did terrible shit to a large group. US internment camps weren't bad at all, but we did stir the pot in the Middle East and South America.

And an even scarier notion to consider is that Hitler was (probably IMO blah blah blah) doing what he though was best for his people. And that's not... too terrible a motive. I mean, that same motive has been used to justified great big atrocities throughout history, but it's not like he was evil to his core.

So I don't think Hitler was the most evil man in history. I don't think he was evil at all. Evil men kill hundreds. They may even torture and rape a few thousand. But the men who exterminate millions, or kill off an entire population, are usually good men with good intentions.

(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/4d/4dad2d006aec22cbee56d3f69e3e295f13152cd09ee59e545cb1dea22eca2a2c.jpg)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on May 10, 2016, 02:58:32 pm
...Yeah, I get what he is saying. I don't fully agree with him but I get the point. For example: The Allied bombing campaigns over Germany killed a lot of people and I assume that the people involved were mainly doing it because of the necessities of war and perhaps even belief that they were doing the right thing, rather than simply doing it out of desire to kill and terrorize Germans. Even Hiroshima and Nagasaki got nuked mainly because it was believed that it was a necessary evil in order to avoid a far more bloody land war (in Asia.)

On the other hand, many of the atrocities of the war don't have good justifications. The Japanese massacres of civilians and prisoners got to the point where the officers were competing over who can kill the most people, US soldiers and marines making trophies out of the bones of the Japanese soldiers was a macabre practice and if you can think of a noble justification (even one that only the person doing it could believe) then you are more creative than I am.

But in the end the whole "people do horrible things because they believe it is the right thing" may seem odd but that is exactly what has happened in every holy war so far. The crusaders were a massacre for all the sides involved and the people who made the streets of their holy city flood with the blood of their victims DID in fact believe that they were on a mission from God and making the world a better place. The suicide attackers who killed thousands in the 9/11 attacks believed they were on a mission from God rather than Snidely Whiplash clones who lived only to do evil.

People who hurt and kill simply for the pleasure they get from it do exist but they are not the only ones who do horrible deeds and are more likely to be a serial killer with handful of victims rather than a mass murderer who is willing to die for his cause.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: mellenORL on May 10, 2016, 09:00:07 pm
I think one historical exception would be Vlad III Drăculești, "The Impaler".  A true serial killer sociopath who was "lucky" enough to be born into a ruling family. He was surely evil. 
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: davedan on May 10, 2016, 09:59:22 pm
Although Romanians think he's top notch defending them from the invaders.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Skybison on May 10, 2016, 10:20:20 pm
Yeah I get the point but it's a giant oversimplification to say that Hitler thought he was doing the right thing.

Why did Hitler think it was the right thing?  He wasn't just making an honest mistake.  Read some biographic material on the guy and it's clear he was a man of limitless narcissism, zero regard of the well being of others unless they stroked his ego and enormous levels of cruelty for those who didn't.  His belief in the evil Jewish conspiracy was most likely a result of that, something that let him scapegoat his failures on someone else and give himself a more specific outlet for his sadism.  Hitler wasn't a good person who made an innocent whoops-a-daisy, he was a piece of shit that's why he believed what he believed.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: dpareja on May 12, 2016, 01:36:03 am
When I made a post very similar to this one on another forum:

http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?topic=7289.msg296816#msg296816

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I dunno. I have a feeling this bathroom law dustup might be a bridge too far for the PC crowd. I wouldn't be surprised to see some real backlash at the PC political establishment, to include Hillary, by the same people who are most likely to turn out in large numbers for Trump.

It kind of reminds me of the Chik-Fil-A boycott a few years ago that led to a 'counter-boycott' that gave Chik-fil-A some of its best sales days (not to mention the free media exposure).

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Agreed. I know as a parent, I wouldn't want a full grown man walking into the bathroom that my little girl is using because he decided to be a women that week.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on May 12, 2016, 01:39:53 am
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When you say trespassing on private property is bad, the hippie/wanna be activists come out of the woodwork to say something dumb like HUR DURR, THATS HOW SHIT GETS DONE, PROTESTING!!!!11! BLOCK TRAFFIC! INTERRUPT SPEECHES!! INVADE PRIVATE PROPERTY!!! Thats nice dear, it still doesn't make trespassing right, or legal for that matter.

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I hate fracking too, but trespassing on someone's private property is not a solution.

...What's so bad about these?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on May 12, 2016, 01:49:45 am
And were they trespassing on private property then?

I get the impression that the complainers simply don't like people violating laws and would prefer legal methods of protest and resistance.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Eiki-mun on May 12, 2016, 01:53:07 am
Yeah I'm with Askold on this one.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on May 12, 2016, 02:37:19 am
Did you know decided to do things like end the slavery and accept gay marriage without shooting people or breaking other laws to achieve these things?

The claim that no progress is possible without violating laws is false dichotomy as such things have happened and at the very least it is an extremely pessimistic view.

And I know that the slavery thing was an extremely rare incident but so were your "what of the holocaust and why won't anyone think of the children" examples. The point is that you don't always have to break the laws to change things and at the very least it should not be your first option.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on May 12, 2016, 10:57:19 am
...

...I seem to have misplaced a few words from my post.

I was supposed to point out that other countries have managed to end slavery and allow gay marriage without riots and a civil war. Instead I seem to have typed gobbledygook. Yay for Askold who still can't type English properly.

Because legal protests are a thing in most countries.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Lady Evil on May 12, 2016, 12:52:26 pm
Lord Elthibar's at it again! Here's his take on Target's new bathroom rules.

http://lordelthibar.deviantart.com/art/Boycott-Target-608138985#comments

Love how original and artistic he is! Wow, using the airbrush tool in MS Paint to draw an X over a pre-generated logo must've taken him a whole minute! (Yeah, if you include hitting "save")
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on May 12, 2016, 01:21:17 pm
Oh, right, he was a thing. Time to indulge my bad habit of hatereading assholes and idiots once more...

And of course he advocates for security guards in front of stalls because of THE TRANSGENDER MENACE. Of course he does. It's a shame he blocked me, otherwise I'd really like to take the piss again.

EDIT:

(http://orig13.deviantart.net/94f5/f/2016/110/9/9/philly_2_by_kumdang_2-d9zofma.jpg)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 12, 2016, 03:32:49 pm
Speaking of idiotic advice animals:

(http://i.lvme.me/e977qjl.jpg)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Lady Evil on May 13, 2016, 12:38:27 pm
Oh, right, he was a thing. Time to indulge my bad habit of hatereading assholes and idiots once more...

And of course he advocates for security guards in front of stalls because of THE TRANSGENDER MENACE. Of course he does. It's a shame he blocked me, otherwise I'd really like to take the piss again.

EDIT:

(http://orig13.deviantart.net/94f5/f/2016/110/9/9/philly_2_by_kumdang_2-d9zofma.jpg)

Has he heard of the incident where a woman was denied entrance into a woman's room because she didn't look girly enough?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on May 14, 2016, 04:59:51 am
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     Transgendereism
    Might as well open with a bomb, it's a mental disorder, NOT a state of being.

    Our esteemed Attorney General has claimed it to be the new front in the fight for civil rights. Horse shit. It's a political agenda with NO basis in civil rights whatsoever. Nothing more than a centralized power grab by the federal government.

    We have .25% of the population driving an agenda for the balance. If it were nothing more than just understanding the disorder I suppose we could live with that. But to force upon the public an agenda that encompasses architectural changes to accommodate the mentally impaired is a step too far.

    If one can choose facilities and demand accommodation merely because of what they believe themselves to be rather than what they are, then I can choose to be an Amerindian with all of the perks thereof, and you can be black, or Asian, or even physically impaired. Who's to argue otherwise if that's what you believe?

    As a solution to this non-problem that has caught the fancy of those into pop-crisis I offer this;

    1. Give them free treatment for their mental disorder.
    2. Give them free surgical remedy.
    3. If they refuse the first two options, encourage suicide. (They already have an extraordinary high rate anyway. And if that isn't a sign of mental disorder I don't know what is.)
    4. Euthanize them.

    Society doesn't have to put up with their shit, or the governments insistence that we do.

    Ismael



For the record, this dude is the kind of guy who complains about SJWs being horrible because they are intolerant of other people's intolerance. Sure, when someone complains about your racism you throw a tantrum and complain about kids and their safe spaces and defend yourself with the freedom of speech, but the moment you see someone that you don't agree with you demand their deaths.

The rest of the thread was all downhill from there.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: mellenORL on May 14, 2016, 08:46:01 am
FTF him
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     Transgendereism Christian Rights "Oppression"-ism
    Might as well open with a bomb, it's a mental disorder gymnastics, NOT a state of being.

    Our esteemed Attorney General has claimed it to be the new an old affront in the fight for civil rights. It's Horse shit. It's a political agenda with NO basis in civil rights whatsoever. Nothing more than a centralized power grab by on the federal government.

    We have .25 30% of the population driving an agenda for the balance. If it were nothing more than just understanding the disorder cultish religious zealotry and social ignorance, I suppose we could live with that. But to force upon the public an agenda that encompasses architectural changes to accommodate the mentally impaired is a step too far.

    If one can choose demand facilitiesation and demand accommodation merely because of what they believe themselves to be as "Christians" rather than what they are, then I can choose to be an Amerindiancan, with all of the perks and duties thereof, and you can be demand that whether you are black, or Asian, or even physically impaired, that your rights will be protected. Who's to argue otherwise if the Constitution and Bill of Rights and 14th Amendment that's protects what you believe know is the law of the land?

    As a solution to this non-problem that has caught the fancy of those into pop-crisis I offer this;

    1. Give them free college education treatment for their mental disorderliness.
    2. Give them free surgical weed as a remedy.
    3. If they refuse the first two options, encourage suicide playing RPG games. (They already have an extraordinary high rate of rigid, cult-like conformist thinking, anyway. And if that isn't a sign of mental disorder I don't know what is.)
    4. Euthanize Destabilize them politically and socially online and IRL.

    Society doesn't have to put up with their shit, or and the governments insistence that should reflect in legislation what we do.

    Ismael



For the record, this dude is the kind of guy who complains about SJWs being horrible because they are intolerant of other people's intolerance. Sure, when someone complains about your racism you throw a tantrum and complain about kids and their safe spaces and defend yourself with the freedom of speech, but the moment you see someone that you don't agree with you demand their deaths.

The rest of the thread was all downhill from there.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: rageaholic on May 14, 2016, 09:50:08 am
Do entire youtube channels count?  Because if they do, holy fucking shit (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCj-Mm7pvi_q_XTCqxpJZKeQ)

She looks like she's 13, talks like she's even younger, yet manages to top Trump in saying the most fucked up things.  In one video, she's celebrating Hitler's birthday.  I'm still convinced this is some Poe, but it's hard to tell.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: ironbite on May 14, 2016, 04:33:39 pm
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     Transgendereism
    Might as well open with a bomb, it's a mental disorder, NOT a state of being.

    Our esteemed Attorney General has claimed it to be the new front in the fight for civil rights. Horse shit. It's a political agenda with NO basis in civil rights whatsoever. Nothing more than a centralized power grab by the federal government.

    We have .25% of the population driving an agenda for the balance. If it were nothing more than just understanding the disorder I suppose we could live with that. But to force upon the public an agenda that encompasses architectural changes to accommodate the mentally impaired is a step too far.

    If one can choose facilities and demand accommodation merely because of what they believe themselves to be rather than what they are, then I can choose to be an Amerindian with all of the perks thereof, and you can be black, or Asian, or even physically impaired. Who's to argue otherwise if that's what you believe?

    As a solution to this non-problem that has caught the fancy of those into pop-crisis I offer this;

    1. Give them free treatment for their mental disorder.
    2. Give them free surgical remedy.
    3. If they refuse the first two options, encourage suicide. (They already have an extraordinary high rate anyway. And if that isn't a sign of mental disorder I don't know what is.)
    4. Euthanize them.

    Society doesn't have to put up with their shit, or the governments insistence that we do.

    Ismael



For the record, this dude is the kind of guy who complains about SJWs being horrible because they are intolerant of other people's intolerance. Sure, when someone complains about your racism you throw a tantrum and complain about kids and their safe spaces and defend yourself with the freedom of speech, but the moment you see someone that you don't agree with you demand their deaths.

The rest of the thread was all downhill from there.

He seems nice.

Ironbite-*throws a white whale at him*
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on May 14, 2016, 04:40:47 pm
I just love how this guy's basically advocating for free gender confirmation surgery in the middle of treating gender nonconformity as a mental illness and wanting transgender people to kill themselves. It's such a weird ideological non sequitur there.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: niam2023 on May 14, 2016, 11:37:50 pm
For these types, I don't think they mean orderly, neat surgery.

I think - given their mindset - "surgery" can be better described as torture, probably involving a knife or scissors.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 16, 2016, 02:18:56 am
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they should mention how the mossad rigged the twin towers during 9/11; and micheal chertoff is a mossad agent
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Svata on May 16, 2016, 03:32:10 am
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they should mention how the mossad rigged the twin towers during 9/11; and micheal chertoff is a mossad agent

Context? I mean, its bad no matter what, I'm just curious.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 16, 2016, 08:52:27 am
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they should mention how the mossad rigged the twin towers during 9/11; and micheal chertoff is a mossad agent

Context? I mean, its bad no matter what, I'm just curious.

It was on a documentary about daring intelligence operations.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Souriquois on May 18, 2016, 11:46:08 am
See my thread on HBD and you will see an inkling of not good things people say on the Internet.

The places need a theme song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMR5zf1J1Hs
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 18, 2016, 11:21:04 pm
(http://oi66.tinypic.com/2epkdpz.jpg)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: mellenORL on May 19, 2016, 11:00:07 am
Well that there is a pail full of juicy, stinky trolling chum, ain't it?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on May 21, 2016, 03:45:10 am
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If you feel this way about Reagan then you must really hate Obama and Clinton for what they have done to this country and the world. Obama will go down as the worst president this country ever had. Although one of the three stooges running for the office now will most likely give him a run for his money. Name one other president who has bullied and threatened the children of the U. S. the way King Obama did by saying he will punish them if they don't allow perverts into their schools. Not Gays or Transsexuals, but outright perverts is what he is calling for and if the school districts don't bow to him he will punish every student. That is Obama.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: mellenORL on May 23, 2016, 10:53:23 pm
Ha. I was reading that and then my Twitter alerts went off like ten in a row, as if my phone was a bullshit alarm for that post. Reality has no bearing for that person. Sad grandma, probably.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on May 30, 2016, 06:45:35 am
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My son and I came close to blows about Hillary and Trump yesterday. We agree that both will likely lead the nation to ruin but my insane demented moron son believes Hillary and Donald are capable of improvement. I believe they are not, and our real decision involves whether we wanna die in combat or starve to death. I didn't help when I called him a stupid fool and a pussy for Clinton. But he doesn't like Clinton, he simply wants to die peacefully, while I wanna die boarding ship with a cutlass in hand.

I am getting the feeling that no matter how the elections end there will be massacres. ...And it's not just from this comment. It's a general impression I get from all the comments about the elections in USA.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 30, 2016, 10:03:28 am
Eeh, things didn't end in a bloodbath after a black man got elected President.  The militias will continue their sabre rattling, all the while pissing themselves at the thought of being noticed as a threat by the US military.  After all, their code states that they handle all threats foreign and domestic.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ironchew on May 30, 2016, 02:27:21 pm
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Okay, maybe this will sound nuts, but hear me out. A crapton of SJWs actually love the idea of white women having sex with black men, because they genuinely believe that they need to "breed out" whiteness through it.
I've had this debate (more like WTF conversation) with a dude who told me, he wants the governments of white countries to put it in law that us, white women all need to be impregnated by black or other dark skinned men and ONLY by them. It should be banned for a white woman to give birth to a white or light skinned baby. He graciously allowed us to stay with the partners we liked without considering race, but white men would be mandated to raise those kids as their own and be legally and financially responsible for them. According to him this would eradicate racism, as the white race would cease to exist, with the small price of white women getting government mandated rape and we would also be forced to give birth to kids we don't want. At first I was convinced he was a troll, but he sounded incredibly genuine about the whole thing.

"No, this wasn't me talking shit with my white supremacist buddies; I was truly having a debate with an essjay who just so happens to speak entirely in white-power-coded language."
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 30, 2016, 02:49:48 pm
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Okay, maybe this will sound nuts, but hear me out. A crapton of SJWs actually love the idea of white women having sex with black men, because they genuinely believe that they need to "breed out" whiteness through it.
I've had this debate (more like WTF conversation) with a dude who told me, he wants the governments of white countries to put it in law that us, white women all need to be impregnated by black or other dark skinned men and ONLY by them. It should be banned for a white woman to give birth to a white or light skinned baby. He graciously allowed us to stay with the partners we liked without considering race, but white men would be mandated to raise those kids as their own and be legally and financially responsible for them. According to him this would eradicate racism, as the white race would cease to exist, with the small price of white women getting government mandated rape and we would also be forced to give birth to kids we don't want. At first I was convinced he was a troll, but he sounded incredibly genuine about the whole thing.

To be fair, there legitimately are some people who think stuff like that:

(http://oi67.tinypic.com/zmm4n6.jpg)

But I doubt that they're anywhere near as common as this guy is implying.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Eiki-mun on May 30, 2016, 02:59:51 pm
I was about to say, "sounds like someone I'd expect to see on Tumblr".
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: SCarpelan on May 30, 2016, 03:03:55 pm
To be fair, there legitimately are some people who think stuff like that:

(http://oi67.tinypic.com/zmm4n6.jpg)

But I doubt that they're anywhere near as common as this guy is implying.

To be honest, this looks like the person is joking. Internet being internet it's not inconceivable that the person is serious but without context it's not as likely.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Iosa the Invincible on June 03, 2016, 10:41:47 pm
Comments from a video asking why Ayn Rand was still a thing:

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Rand has some harsh views but that doesn't really discount them
Objectively speaking, which was after all her thing, native Americans don't have any right to live somewhere if a superior culture comes along and wipes them out - survival of the fittest
And if liberals are truly about nature they'll understand that this is the natural order

Communism is a disease, all the countries that experimented with it failed dismally whereas capitalism gives people choice, security and a functioning society because it adheres to the 'do or die' mentality that nature designed as opposed to the god we invented who'll do all the work for us because we deserve it or some such blah blah blah, throw in something about 'Machiavellian' and that's the other side of the argument

Life's a bitch - and because she talks about it, people think Ayn must have been too

Fools

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It's my personal belief that the ideal man she had in mind was really the tortured autistic genius in hiding. The word autism itself has been polluted by those who are unable to comprehend it since the days of Leo Kanner, so I wouldn't expect her to be aware of such a connection. She herself was likely to be an Aspie, which is why I am not surprised by the vitriol thrown at her by people who don't understand her perspective. They're the same groups who hate autistic people, whether or not they realize it.

I just . . . what?

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so native americans are savages ...???

In the sense of primitive society with no concept of individual rights,  yes.

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so native americans are savages ...???

While the term is very condescending, it's technically true. Native Americans had a very uncivilized and primitive way of life.

I read these two comments and all I could think of was:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6k52YTIQB4
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: lord gibbon on June 03, 2016, 10:56:54 pm
Yes, because it's not like the Iroquois built a functioning democracy centuries before the Europeans, or that Cahokia at it's height was bigger than contemporary London or Paris...
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on June 04, 2016, 12:42:22 am
...The more I see the objectivists defend their ideology the worse it seems.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Zygarde on June 04, 2016, 02:09:14 am
It's like the idiots who think Africa is only tribesman and warlord stuff.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Art Vandelay on June 04, 2016, 02:24:33 am
Yes, because it's not like the Iroquois built a functioning democracy centuries before the Europeans, or that Cahokia at it's height was bigger than contemporary London or Paris...
Cahokia had around 40 000 at the very most at its peak. That's a drop in the bucket compared to modern London or Paris.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: davedan on June 04, 2016, 02:30:27 am
I think the irrepressible one was talking about London and Paris at the same time Cahokia was at its peak. Rather than modern London or Paris
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on June 04, 2016, 02:33:53 am
Yes, because it's not like the Iroquois built a functioning democracy centuries before the Europeans, or that Cahokia at it's height was bigger than contemporary London or Paris...
Cahokia had around 40 000 at the very most at its peak. That's a drop in the bucket compared to modern London or Paris.
Gibbon said "contemporary" not modern, still wrong though. In 1400 when Cahokia reached its highest population during 13th century it was probably only slightly smaller than London at the same time but Paris had over 200k people already.  ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_urban_community_sizes )
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Art Vandelay on June 04, 2016, 02:35:57 am
Yes, because it's not like the Iroquois built a functioning democracy centuries before the Europeans, or that Cahokia at it's height was bigger than contemporary London or Paris...
Cahokia had around 40 000 at the very most at its peak. That's a drop in the bucket compared to modern London or Paris.
Gibbon said "contemporary" not modern, still wrong though. In 1400 when Cahokia reached its highest population during 13th century it was probably only slightly smaller than London at the same time but Paris had over 200k people already.  ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_urban_community_sizes )
Gotta love brainfarts.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on June 04, 2016, 02:48:35 am
Dang, I made some typos on my post as well. Anyway it looks nearly understandable so I suppose that is close enough.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Sigmaleph on June 04, 2016, 10:51:57 am
"Objectively speaking, which was after all her thing, native Americans don't have any right to live somewhere if a superior culture comes along and wipes them out - survival of the fittest"

-some asshole, defending Ayn Rand.

"In a civilized society, force may be used only in retaliation and only against those who initiate its use"

-Ayn fucking Rand

Wiping out another society because you dislike them: not, actually, a retaliatory use of force.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: davedan on June 06, 2016, 01:32:20 am
Doesn't appear to agree with this report (which is admittedly a bit old):

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/aic.pdf (http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/aic.pdf)

Then again at a murder rate of 20% I would be amazed that a community could continue to exist at all.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on June 06, 2016, 01:34:11 am
20% of what? All deaths? Or do they kill 20% of their population daily?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: I am lizard on June 06, 2016, 01:37:55 am
20% of what? All deaths? Or do they kill 20% of their population daily?
He's talking about pre-contact deaths.

I have no clue where he got those stats, as he refuses to provide any sources.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Skybison on June 06, 2016, 01:53:42 am
There are plenty of anthropologists that think many hunter gatherer and small scale farming societies can have very high rates of violent deaths from warfare, studies of groups in South America, New Guinea, Australia and Alaska do point towards males have 1 in 4 to 1 in 5 odds of being killed in war.  My sources are the books War Before Civilization by Lawrence Keeley, Better Angels of our Nature by Stephen Pinker and War by Gwynne Dyer.

However there are also many anthropologists who disagree and argue that levels of warfare are much lower.

Only being a layman I've been left with the impression that "primitive" societies seem to have wildly varying levels of violence, just like "modern" ones, and we should be skeptical about making sweeping generalizations about prehistory.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Art Vandelay on June 06, 2016, 02:08:05 am
Huh, I thought small tribal societies had very low death rate from war and murder, simply because tribes of only a few hundred people each can't afford to piss away their people.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Skybison on June 06, 2016, 02:26:17 am
Their food supply can be pretty weak and unpredictable, so it can be very easy for even a small group to have more people then their territory can support, meaning they have to take someone else's and be constantly on guard from potentially hungry outsiders.  The general rule of thumb is that hunter-gatherers living in extremely marginal resource poor environments like the high arctic have low levels of warfare (since populations are tiny and you will rarely interact with outsiders) and those living in rich environments with more then enough have high levels of warfare (since it's actually possible to overrun your resource base and everywhere else already has people in it).
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Meshakhad on June 10, 2016, 05:28:59 pm
20% of what? All deaths? Or do they kill 20% of their population daily?
He's talking about pre-contact deaths.

I have no clue where he got those stats, as he refuses to provide any sources.

I recall an article in New Scientist which estimated the death toll from violence before the advent of medieval nation states (and in the period when the Mongols really figured out this cavalry thing and no one could stop them) at 20%.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: I am lizard on June 11, 2016, 11:58:26 am
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Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 11, 2016, 01:56:44 pm
This ones a doozy

(click to show/hide)

Bong hits for the Illuminati!
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: RavynousHunter on June 11, 2016, 04:25:36 pm
Something-something Half-Life 3 confirmed.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 12, 2016, 05:04:22 pm
(http://oi65.tinypic.com/xgb9ja.jpg)

I'm pretty sure the shooter's virulent homophobia was a bigger factor than Counterstrike.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Dakota Bob on June 12, 2016, 05:14:33 pm
Gee, I wasn't gonna murder LGBT people but then I played Call of Duty SO I GUESS IT'S OKAY
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on June 12, 2016, 08:43:52 pm
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Get over it. You leftist cucks cant even handle the fact that we are at war. But im sure youll keep going," its just a minority, stop being an edgelord" when youre crawling on a theatre floor when theyre executing people in front of you
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Skybison on June 12, 2016, 08:47:26 pm
(http://i2.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/cuckchick.jpg?resize=600%2C398)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: I am lizard on June 12, 2016, 09:04:05 pm
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I love how things like this can help me weed out acephobes so I can fucjing unfollow their asses.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on June 12, 2016, 09:20:29 pm
Someone wanting to not receive stuff in their feed from people who hate them counts as a "bad thing that was said online" now? Or is this in reference to the Pulse shootings? In which case, wow, yeah, those are some skewed priorities OP's got there.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on June 13, 2016, 06:55:21 pm
Quote from: deviantart user lordelthibar
It's the truth because they are blaming the Orlando shooting on Christians when the shooter was a member of ISIS! Doesn't anyone see that this is a set up so the people can use the crimes of others to blame Christians! Why else do you think I won't tolerate these scum?! Duh! It's time this group finds itself in the pages of history alongside Nazism, Leninism, Communism, and the KKK! Forgotten!

Comparing us to the people who loathe us and would love to see us dead is always Classy (tm).
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 14, 2016, 03:35:46 pm
Gee, I wasn't gonna murder LGBT people but then I played Call of Duty SO I GUESS IT'S OKAY

Oh, and it gets better.  Dude works for Polygon:

http://www.deepfreeze.it/journo.php?j=justin_mcelroy (http://www.deepfreeze.it/journo.php?j=justin_mcelroy)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: niam2023 on June 14, 2016, 03:47:21 pm
...Knew it, this would eventually fold back into It That Shall Not Be Named.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on June 14, 2016, 06:03:57 pm
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Much as I hate minstrelsy, I think it should be allowed to succeed or fail on its own merits.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Katsuro on June 15, 2016, 11:24:26 am
This shite appeared on my Facebook feed today along with the words, "This is what SJW's actually believe."

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s526x395/13423722_1722112791388559_8321479667265926073_n.jpg?oh=d4eedb8a381223717d3521d7e710d317&oe=57D0D8B2)

They should've used this picture instead:

(http://ytemagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/scarecrow1.jpg)

I might have to rethink having the wanker who "liked" this on my friends list.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Skybison on June 16, 2016, 01:36:21 am
Some asshole's opinion on the Orlando shooting

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I know what you want. A society run by feminists and powered by lesbians, where the feminists have the gays under their thumb so that they say exactly the right words and visions on the media they control. Control is placed on judges and educators and professors who know they must obey your ideological dictates or suffer savaging in the media.

The people you attack are meek limp men, ‘guilty’ whites, and christians confused about their religion, praying for forgiveness, lol. Gays have already hijacked the rainbow; the populace is so stupid that they think gays own the rainbow. Really!!! That stupid!!! The mistake you are making is that you are attacking males, whites and christians so intensely that they have no more cheeks to turn; they have no choice but to fight back. Personally I will fight you to the end of life, to hell and back, in words, pictures and vitriol, until I am able to see your ideology discarded in the toxic wastebin of history.

Let me help you understand gaiety. Lets get down and dirty on that.. Gaiety advocates the

(here he describes sex acts he claims all and only gay people do that the blog he's posting on censored.)

That’s All It Is. Nothing more. Just the Pride of unsanitary acts. That is who you are worshipping. Too stupid to know what an anus is for. As for Trump, his books emphasize safety, and economic changes to improve living standards. Solid ideas. He passes no comment on butt-worshippers. But he has no plans how we can crush gay propaganda. And that is the issue of the era. So he is a wimp.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: niam2023 on June 16, 2016, 02:07:13 am
Some asshole's opinion on the Orlando shooting

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I know what you want. A society run by feminists and powered by lesbians, where the feminists have the gays under their thumb so that they say exactly the right words and visions on the media they control. Control is placed on judges and educators and professors who know they must obey your ideological dictates or suffer savaging in the media.

The people you attack are meek limp men, ‘guilty’ whites, and christians confused about their religion, praying for forgiveness, lol. Gays have already hijacked the rainbow; the populace is so stupid that they think gays own the rainbow. Really!!! That stupid!!! The mistake you are making is that you are attacking males, whites and christians so intensely that they have no more cheeks to turn; they have no choice but to fight back. Personally I will fight you to the end of life, to hell and back, in words, pictures and vitriol, until I am able to see your ideology discarded in the toxic wastebin of history.

Let me help you understand gaiety. Lets get down and dirty on that.. Gaiety advocates the

(here he describes sex acts he claims all and only gay people do that the blog he's posting on censored.)

That’s All It Is. Nothing more. Just the Pride of unsanitary acts. That is who you are worshipping. Too stupid to know what an anus is for. As for Trump, his books emphasize safety, and economic changes to improve living standards. Solid ideas. He passes no comment on butt-worshippers. But he has no plans how we can crush gay propaganda. And that is the issue of the era. So he is a wimp.

So his opinion can be summed up as;

#DonaldTrump #NotMyFuhrer
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on June 16, 2016, 09:31:04 am
Okay I'm not giving this fucko any more of my mental attention, but

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Too stupid to know what an anus is for.

he does know cis men have a G-spot inside the butthole, right? And his God made cis male bodies that way?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: pyro on June 17, 2016, 12:29:59 am
I don't think it's just cismen that have a prostate there.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Eiki-mun on June 17, 2016, 01:20:29 am
Wow, that's some true blue stupidity right there.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on June 19, 2016, 05:43:12 am
(http://i.imgur.com/0GPHWRw.jpg)

This keeps popping up on Imgur and every time the comments are full of people making fun of Transpeople . Also, claims that being trans is simply a type of insanity and "it should be treated not accepted" and so on...
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Sigmaleph on June 19, 2016, 11:40:22 am
(http://i.imgur.com/0GPHWRw.jpg)

This keeps popping up on Imgur and every time the comments are full of people making fun of Transpeople . Also, claims that being trans is simply a type of insanity and "it should be treated not accepted" and so on...

They are exactly right. IQ does not define intelligence, it's an imperfect measure, and semen definitely does not define who your child will be (there's, like, an entire other gamete involved? and environmental effects?).

Things are complicated, news at 11.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: I am lizard on June 19, 2016, 03:28:40 pm
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Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on June 19, 2016, 04:08:37 pm
Speaking as an asexual who only started feeling that he's gay this year: uuuuuuuuuggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Skybison on June 20, 2016, 11:49:22 pm
So some right wing blogger is hopping mad because gay rights activists want to take away his guns.  (I haven't the faintest idea what recent event could have led them to that conclusion.)  But he has a brilliant plan to stop them:

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f these gays want to try and attack the rights of gun owners, all gun owners need to point out is that if they begin to feel hostile to gays, and begin to see gays as too emotional and illogical, they might begin to not believe the testimony of gays in trials.
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There are about 102 million gun owners out there (32% of all Americans), and all a defense attorney would need to do is find one to put on the jury of a man who beat a gay guy, stabbed a transgender, or murdered a transvestite. Did a transgender man use the girls locker room when a pee wee swim team was changing, and get beaten to a pulp? Don’t think the beater is going to get convicted on the word of the gay.

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If gays think guns should be banned, then the gay’s testimony is meaningless, and I would assume any evidence had been fabricated in an overemotional meltdown.

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The potential consequences against gays would admittedly be dangerous. Millions of people who want to commit crime might begin targeting gays specifically, knowing that they would be unlikely to be convicted, given how all it would take is one of the 102 million gun owners to land on their jury – and the lawyers of the perpetrator would undoubtedly be looking for gun owners to put on the jury.

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Gang members, who need to kill somebody as an initiation might seek out gays as victims, thinking they would be a free kill, and sadly there would be nothing I could do about that.

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Those prone to engage in violence against gays specifically because of homophobia might be emboldened, and gay attacks could increase precipitously, and obviously all of those gay attackers going free without any consequence would be unfortunate.

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However gays do not seem to consider our safety when contemplating their actions. They are all too happy to try and make us and our families less safe by preventing us from getting the guns we want to protect them. So the idea that gays would be less safe due to our realization that gays are too emotional and cannot be trusted, would not be of concern to me. I would have to vote my conscience – every time – and I suspect most other gun owners would as well.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on June 20, 2016, 11:54:08 pm
I think it's adorable that this motherfucker thinks he has enough power to convince millions of people to bash gays.

But not gonna lie, this kinda makes me want to take away his guns. And then shoot him somewhere painful with then.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: dpareja on June 21, 2016, 01:39:02 am
This is not, precisely, on the Internet. But I found it there so I'm posting it here.

I was rereading the debates on same-sex marriage from the House of Commons back in 2005, and I found that a Conservative MP, Paul Forseth, in speaking against the proposed change, said:

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Conservatives will never impose what Canadians do not want.

https://openparliament.ca/debates/2005/3/21/paul-forseth-1/

I think my irony meter just broke.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 02, 2016, 05:10:16 pm
(http://oi65.tinypic.com/2yo3jo0.jpg)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: ironbite on July 02, 2016, 05:13:30 pm
No Honey just....no.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Delirium on July 04, 2016, 12:14:56 pm
(http://oi65.tinypic.com/2yo3jo0.jpg)

This is an obvious Poe. That being said, anyone who defends North Korea. That being said, I am Lizard is 100% correct about NK.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: dpareja on July 11, 2016, 12:40:48 am
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[Black Lives Matter] is a terrorist organization and if we had any other president would have already been classified as one.

EDIT: Same person, same thread:

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The only smoke here is in the black version of KKK, also put yourself in the officers shoe's. The issue is race, the issue is a criminal culture in the US. Fortunately the opinion of most folks in this thread matters not a single bit when it comes to resolution of this.

The whole Black Lives Matter movement was found on a series of lies and dishonesty. As such it has almost no credibility to any rational thinking person, who can get past the liberal mindset of race is king.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Skybison on July 11, 2016, 01:53:20 pm
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Agreed. One sin is just as bad as another. I have known women who are living and sleeping with their boyfriends while condemning people who are gay. Ridiculous.

So what, shoplifting and genocide are equally bad then?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Skybison on July 15, 2016, 04:40:41 pm
http://www.counter-currents.com/2016/06/zootopia-persecution-and-the-art-of-screenwriting/

I don't want to quote the whole thing, but it's some alt-right asshole "proving" the movie the anti-racist movie Zootopia is really pro-racist. 
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: fancy_kitten on July 15, 2016, 05:15:10 pm
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Agreed. One sin is just as bad as another. I have known women who are living and sleeping with their boyfriends while condemning people who are gay. Ridiculous.

So what, shoplifting and genocide are equally bad then?

As someone who's been down that rabbit hole, you don't want to know.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: TheContrarian on July 15, 2016, 05:28:53 pm
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Agreed. One sin is just as bad as another. I have known women who are living and sleeping with their boyfriends while condemning people who are gay. Ridiculous.

So what, shoplifting and genocide are equally bad then?

As someone who's been down that rabbit hole, you don't want to know.

So when's your trial at the Hague?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: fancy_kitten on July 15, 2016, 09:09:44 pm
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Agreed. One sin is just as bad as another. I have known women who are living and sleeping with their boyfriends while condemning people who are gay. Ridiculous.

So what, shoplifting and genocide are equally bad then?

As someone who's been down that rabbit hole, you don't want to know.

So when's your trial at the Hague?

Tomorrow, bring your friends.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: dpareja on July 22, 2016, 09:01:55 pm
On Charles Kinsey's shooting:

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All those other shooting phillano alton, well the other side of the story has came out and it shows the initial narratives to be complete and utter bullcrap. No one's arguing that this was in any way shape or form right. Odds are that once the legal investigation finishs it path, the officer involved will be let go. But we have laws for a reason, you and many others in this forum seem to want to forget that.

The short version is that the caretaker in this case was not the one be aimed for, being left to bleed out is hyperbole at best. Very few parts on the leg are serious wounds, and untrained treatment can complicate things tremendously. Based on the latter information he was likely hit by a ricochet rather then a direct shot.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on July 23, 2016, 06:30:13 am
Ah yes, the laws that say it's illegal to have toy trucks or lie down on the street.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: RavynousHunter on July 23, 2016, 07:22:22 am
Hey, for all Officer Shooty McShootface knew, it could've been a toy truck bomb!  You know, the kind those scary mudslime turrists use to take out an entire toy chest!  Or, at least singe the hair of good, godfearin, white dolls.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: dpareja on July 23, 2016, 04:17:50 pm
Actually, that was in response to a post I made linking to an article in which one bystander said that he'd approached an officer working crowd control at an incident to tell her that he'd seen with his binoculars that the object in question was a toy truck, not a gun. The officer refused to listen.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: ironbite on July 23, 2016, 04:34:52 pm
The caretaker himself was screaming it was a toy truck for everyone to hear.

Ironbite-still got shot.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: dpareja on July 23, 2016, 04:47:02 pm
The caretaker himself was screaming it was a toy truck for everyone to hear.

Ironbite-still got shot.

By accident. The shooter was aiming for the autistic man.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on July 24, 2016, 11:27:07 pm
There is like 63% chance that this person is just a troll. I will not rate it higher because I don't want to believe that someone would spend years typing out crap like this simply because they want to PRETEND being an idiot.

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Yesterday I deleted a Lee Child book from my Kindle. It wasnt the first Lee Child book I threw away.

There's nuthin wrong with his writing, his books are interesting.

My problem is romance and amazons. I like when Jack Reacher fucks girls, I don't like when he brings them roses. I don't like five foot nuthin gals who can kick his 6 foot five ass. My 6 foot four daddy wasn't dum enough to mess with my five foot two mammy, but she knew better than to mess with him. The first time one of my sisters sunk her claws into me I cut her claws off. Homey don't play that game, bitch. I don't do flowers. My wife's birthday is coming up, she gets a fist fulla fifties and dinner wherever she wants. But no flowers. And I don't wanna read about sentimental numnutz who kiss girlie ass. I stipulate I invented misogynist asshole. Guilty as charged.

So what turns you off in a story?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: ironbite on July 25, 2016, 03:54:13 pm
What....the fuck?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on July 26, 2016, 09:30:14 am
What....the fuck?
If this was about the quote I posted here's a few more words of "wisdom" from the same bloke:

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Lets all take the Jim Johnson BULLSHIT TEST.

True or False

1. If I wake up tomorrow black as coal it aint no problem.

2.If I wake up tomorrow queer as Bruce Jenner it aint a problem.

3. If I wake up tomorrow a cunt it aint a problem.


Not me! LC can have my queer and girl lives.

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As a larval psychologist I was trained by a gang of perfessers who demanded brutal honesty and plain speaking. At the end my public evaluation by these people was worse than anything you poor babies experience. To condense it, they said I passed but they sure hoped I was never their therapist. Bob got the worst of it. Bob passed all the coursework and none of the clinical requirements. He simply couldn't get on the same page with anyone, if you cried because your dog died, Bob didn't get it. The perfessers were merciless, and he didn't graduate. One perfesser said, I COULDNT LIVE WITH MYSELF IF I TURNED YOU LOOSE ON THE PUBLIC. It was painful to hear because they pulled no punches. Bob sued and lost.

The attitude of the department was GET OVER IT OR GET OUT. The goal was for you to grow a hard shell before going out into the world. Snowflakes not wanted. My first job had trouble with me telling staff and management to go fuck themselves. But the language is common at many places. The best supervisors I had spoke it fluently. GO FUCK YOURSELF should be an affirmation you tape to your refrigerator and see every morning. Start your day with LC, GO FUCK YOURSELF.

THATS SHIT covers most of the shoddy wares posted at LIT. WORD SALAD covers all of your poetry. In fact, I changed your account name to WITHOUT RHYME OR REASON. Bulls-eye.

(He claims to have worked at a mental ward or something. Previously I thought that he had been a nurse since he brags about beating up female patients.)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: ironbite on July 26, 2016, 03:34:10 pm
Pretty sure he lives in said mental ward.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: dpareja on July 26, 2016, 04:18:32 pm
(http://i.cbc.ca/1.3694307.1469497210!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/original_620/lesbians-are-hot-pro-oilsands.jpg)

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/lesbians-are-hot-facebook-apology-1.3695390
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Art Vandelay on July 26, 2016, 05:37:18 pm
They make a good point, actually. America's biggest oil supplier are indeed a bunch of oppresive, totalitarian Islamic fundamentalist loons, and therefore buying elsewhere whenever possible should be very strongly encouraged.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: dpareja on July 26, 2016, 05:57:04 pm
They make a good point, actually. America's biggest oil supplier are indeed a bunch of oppresive, totalitarian Islamic fundamentalist loons, and therefore buying elsewhere whenever possible should be very strongly encouraged.

...yes, but they could have made their point in a way that wouldn't have ticked people off the way that ad did.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Art Vandelay on July 26, 2016, 06:07:54 pm
People get butthurt over it, that's their problem.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: SCarpelan on July 26, 2016, 06:08:23 pm
They make a good point, actually. America's biggest oil supplier are indeed a bunch of oppresive, totalitarian Islamic fundamentalist loons, and therefore buying elsewhere whenever possible should be very strongly encouraged.

This was my first thought also. Then I noticed the gringeworthy objectification of lesbians and after reading the context from behind the link the ad became even more offputting: it is fighting the movement against the tar sand oil excavation. You know, the most toxic way to get oil.

Still, separate from this context I do approve the sentiment of putting economical pressure on the Saudi regime.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: ironbite on July 26, 2016, 06:17:18 pm
Yeah the sediment is well and all but the message sucks hard.

Ironbite-like really  hard.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: pyro on July 26, 2016, 11:45:51 pm
Am I the only one who thinks it sounds like a South Park gag?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Skybison on August 02, 2016, 02:50:36 am
So if you've been following the conventions you probably heard the speech by the Khans, parents of a muslim american soldier who died in Iraq saving the rest of his unit.  Even if you weren't you probably heard Trump cruel attack on them that was low even for him.

But there is something even worse then Trump: Trump's supporters.  Two of them, Theodore and Walid Shoebat have started a conspiracy theory that the Khan family are actually members of the Muslim brotherhood.  Their Proof?  His father used the word sharia in some legal articles in the 80s and worked for a group helping Muslim immigrants.  This proves that Humayun Khan was actually a sleeper agent with a cunning plan to infiltrate the US military so he could... get killed by a suicide bomber saving other soldier's lives?  I what?

http://shoebat.com/2016/07/31/what-the-media-is-not-telling-you-about-the-muslim-who-attacked-donald-trump-he-is-a-muslim-brotherhood-agent-who-wants-to-advance-sharia-law-and-bring-muslims-into-the-united-states/
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on August 02, 2016, 11:11:36 am
This is a Finnish text that is a guide to ethnic cleansing. https://sarastuslehti.com/2016/07/30/miten-etninen-puhdistus-toteutetaan/

I am not going to bother translating all of it since it is very long and disgusting, I am not sure if it already is a copy of a foreign text or if the two writers came up with it by themselves, but I wish to talk about the article...

First of all, the article is written with fancy sounding scientific and clinical words. They say"expulsive-exterminative ethnic cleansing" rather than genocide. They talk about "economic incentives," "'soft' doctrine" and start with "less extreme" methods of ethnic cleansing claiming that these are closer to European values of human rights and therefore preferable to genocide (though they never even use to word "kill" or "concentration camp" while talking about them.) In other words, this text has been written to appear clinical and distanced from the horrible reality that they try to defend genocide as a solution to Muslim immigration to Europe. This is the thing that disgusts me even more than their fantasies of genocide, they know how horrible their idea is and aren't able to use the real names for what they offer. They try to seem sophisticated and use scientific language as if that makes genocide less horrifying...

For a TL;DR version, they start by claiming as a fact that Muslims are taking over Europe and that this will end with them slaughtering the proper Europeans but they offer no evidence for these claims. Then having stated their "facts" they move on to explaining what ethnic cleansing means and offering step-by-step instructions for removing Muslims from Europe, either by turning them into second class citizens to make them not want to stay in Europe, violating UN and EU rulings on refugees to prevent more people from coming or removing them by force, genocide being the "final solution" if nothing else works. They also repeatedly claim that the longer it takes to start the ethnic cleansing the worse it will be and try to shift the guilt of these hypothetical acts onto those who have allowed Muslim refugees to enter Europe.

There is one particular bit that I will translate. The original:

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Käytännössä tuhoaminen tapahtuu kemiallisesti ja muodostuva biojäte hävitetään asianmukaisesti prosessoimalla joko krematorioissa tai biologisesti mädättämö-kompostointilaitoksissa. Sivutuotteena muodostuu tällöin joko energiaa tai biokaasua; kiinteät aineet prosessoidaan esim. maanparannusaineeksi tai maatalouden alkutuotannon lannoitetarpeisiin.

In English:
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In practice the destruction will occur chemically and the resulting organic waste will be disposed of appropriately by processing, either in crematorium or biologically in a putrefication-compost facility. The byproduct will then be either energy or biogas, solid matter will be processed for example as dressing or for agricultural needs as fertilizer.

...

...That was their description of mass murder. The murder of men, women, children, entire families and nations. That is how they describe killing thousands of people and using their bodies to make biogas and then using the remains to fertilize tomatoes or something.

Somehow this is even more discussing than if they were openly fantasizing about gassing children to death. It's so... Clinical and industrialized, they try to remove all emotions out of mass murder and think that it makes it more acceptable.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: niam2023 on August 02, 2016, 05:31:39 pm
Essentially, its the Heydrich of the group writing it - he would have been just as thorough and clinical if he was tasked with eliminating tennis players as he would if he was tasked to eliminate Muslims or Jews. The specifics of who is being exterminated do not matter - all that matters is getting it done as quickly, efficiently and mercilessly as possible. He doesn't care about anyone's lives.

I imagine he doesn't particularly care for other members of the Finnish Nationalist Groups, because they're not as smart as he is. Heydrich himself utterly despised most other Nazis.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: SCarpelan on August 02, 2016, 05:55:17 pm
I read a post on the same site few months ago that was refreshingly self-aware. The writer admitted that the Islamic extremism and his own ideology are two sides of the same coin and if he was born in the Middle East he would probably end up wearing a bomb vest. He just thought that everyone needs to stand up for their own group and if it means bloodshed so be it.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on August 03, 2016, 03:37:39 am
Trolls banned for cheating on Overwatch lose all of the shit. (http://imgur.com/a/ZzSGi)

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Sadly .... i am banned ...
these mortals have angered me for the last time ... blizzard will feel my wrath

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We are at war ..
War with Blizzard Every day they persecute us for our beliefs.
We have done nothing wrong, we are merely using our code to make certain colors on the screen get altered. There's no harm in that.
What's important is that the banned users are not victims. but (REDACTED) is.
Every day this site has to deal with Blizzard trolling us to death with their banhammers
If you want to our cause, you have to buy some CoreCoins.
If we get enough users buying CoreCoins, this site will grow and we will be able to hire agents wrth thos that can help us protect us.
Maybe on a court battle eventually.
My people donl have to take any persecution any longer. we must stop this great evil called Bhzzard
For a better future!
Invest on CoreCoins!

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I got banned too, wtf. blizzard you're really gonna punish people who paid you MONEY for this game????

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Blizzard you made a powerful enemy .
We are Anonymous.
We are Legion.
We do not forgive.
We do not forget.
Expect us.
do you hav e a skype? how do i join anonymus

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can i sue blizzard for this unfair ban

Delicious salty salt.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Eiki-mun on August 06, 2016, 06:29:04 pm
Some context would be nice. I have no idea why that statement is bad, whether it's serious or a joke, what it's about, or who's saying it.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Skybison on August 06, 2016, 11:14:13 pm
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Why have a boyfriend when you can have a girlfriend?

So women should become lesbians then?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: rookie on August 07, 2016, 12:06:08 pm
Dammit! Pat Robertson said this would happen.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: dpareja on August 07, 2016, 09:57:09 pm
When I pointed out Politifact's Truth-O-Meter ratings for Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump:

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So basically you are saying [Hillary Clinton] is a politician who knows how to lie without lying. And [Donald Trump] is more of an average joe, inclined to examples of hyperbole to prove his point aka sterotypical [sic] american.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: niam2023 on August 08, 2016, 12:33:36 am
When I pointed out Politifact's Truth-O-Meter ratings for Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump:

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So basically you are saying [Hillary Clinton] is a politician who knows how to lie without lying. And [Donald Trump] is more of an average joe, inclined to examples of hyperbole to prove his point aka sterotypical [sic] american.

...that is not how lying, hyperbole, politicians or average joes work...
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: dpareja on August 08, 2016, 12:39:20 am
When I pointed out Politifact's Truth-O-Meter ratings for Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump:

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So basically you are saying [Hillary Clinton] is a politician who knows how to lie without lying. And [Donald Trump] is more of an average joe, inclined to examples of hyperbole to prove his point aka sterotypical [sic] american.

...that is not how lying, hyperbole, politicians or average joes work...

This is a guy who cites Infowars as a legitimate source.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on August 08, 2016, 01:57:35 am
At least he didn't claim that Politifact is shilling for Hillary or something.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on August 08, 2016, 06:07:49 am
When I pointed out Politifact's Truth-O-Meter ratings for Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump:

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So basically you are saying [Hillary Clinton] is a politician who knows how to lie without lying. And [Donald Trump] is more of an average joe, inclined to examples of hyperbole to prove his point aka sterotypical [sic] american.

...that is not how lying, hyperbole, politicians or average joes work...

This is a guy who cites Infowars as a legitimate source.
Average Joe believes in average Jewish space lizards using HAARP to command your soul.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on August 10, 2016, 12:55:31 am
Usually when people find out that they've been fooled by a fake news article they try to come up with an explanation for their mistake. This guy though is special.

(http://66.media.tumblr.com/26da67e1611cbc870206ac5a306929c1/tumblr_o9cz1ouEMt1qkt6yoo1_1280.png)

Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on August 10, 2016, 08:20:15 am
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The GOP likes to play THE GOOD NIGGERS Democrats can invite to parties.

 During the Revolution most of the Continental Congress played Good Niggers, and got immunity from the British to spend the winters in places like Philadelphia. Washington and the boys froze/starved at Valley Forge while the Congress quarreled over accommodations and carriages. Revolution memoirs don't flatter the pols, officers, or darkies. Peter Horry said blacks were better than roadsigns when the Brits went looking for Patriots. The Brits took the best blacks North, gave them white widows, and used them to spy.

 But Washington won because he was a rock
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: ironbite on August 10, 2016, 06:58:44 pm
.....what?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Skybison on August 25, 2016, 01:10:17 am
Rush Limbaugh would like to warn all Real Americans that the scary Lesbians are coming for your farms!

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Have you heard the latest Democrat scam? Have you heard about the agriculture department's financial grants to lesbian farmers? You think I'm making this up? See, this is how they do it. All right. I hadn't intended to get into this right off the bat. Let me find it here in the Stack because it's something that's happening. It's actually real, and there is a strategic reason for it. Here it is. Are you ready for this? It's two pages. Let me pull 'em out here. It is from the Washington Free Beacon. That's the website.

Headline: "Feds Holding Summits for Lesbian Farmers -- USDA wants to change image of farmers from 'white, rich male.' The US Department of Agriculture is holding summits to promote the role of lesbian farmers as a part of its 'Rural Pride' campaign. The agency is working with singer and LGBT activist Cyndi Lauper for a 'day of conversation' about the struggles of gay and transgender individuals in rural America. [USDA] says its wants to change the perception of what it means to be a farmer in America away from the 'white, rich male.'"

Now, I understand farmers are not "rich." This is part of the disinformation campaign. "Rich, white male" is how the left describes pretty much any constituency group that they're opposed to. What the point of this is, folks... It's not about lesbian farmers. What they're trying to do is convince lesbians to become farmers.

You sit in there and laugh. Okay, go ahead and laugh at it, but I'm telling you what they're doing. They are trying to bust up one of the last geographically conservative regions in the country; that's rural America.

Rural America happens to be largely conservative. Rural America is made up of self-reliant, rugged individualist types. They happen to be big believers in the Second Amendment. So here comes the Obama Regime with a bunch of federal money and they're waving it around, and all you gotta do to get it is be a lesbian and want to be a farmer and they'll set you up. I'm like you; I never before in my life knew that lesbians wanted to be farmers.

I never knew that lesbians wanted to get behind the horse and the plow and start burrowing. I never knew it. But apparently enough money can make it happen, and the objective here is to attack rural states. They're already attacking suburbs, and that has been made perfectly clear by what happened in Milwaukee. They're going after every geographic region that is known to be largely conservative. They never stop, folks. They are constantly on the march.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on August 25, 2016, 01:52:45 am
I am 98% certain that this comic has been posted on the forum before, but I was looking for it to link it again and discovered the Knowyourmeme comments on it. ...The lack of self awareness is painful.

http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/855096-tumblr
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: ironbite on August 25, 2016, 12:27:11 pm
Oh look it's GooblyGook in a nutshell.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on September 16, 2016, 01:50:28 am
Let's change that a bit:

"If your OTP isn't Aryan, imagine both of them being sent to Auschwitz by the Nazis. There they fall in love, but can it survive? Can they?"

There, perhaps that will help them understand.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Sigmaleph on September 16, 2016, 07:19:35 pm
Let's change that a bit:

"If your OTP isn't Aryan, imagine both of them being sent to Auschwitz by the Nazis. There they fall in love, but can it survive? Can they?"

There, perhaps that will help them understand.

...it really doesn't?

I don't think the only reason people could want to write 'gay couple in conversion therapy' stories is because yaoi fangirls jerk it to child abuse, for one. But even if that was true...

Let people jerk it to stories of child abuse if they want. Let people jerk it to stories genocide and rape and murder and whatever gets them off. Who even cares. Fiction is made up, it doesn't real, actual people are not getting hurt.

Yes, people are often bothered by other people's taste in fiction, especially if they think they are aroused by it. Sucks. "People are no longer allowed to write stories about this" is not a reasonable response.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on September 17, 2016, 02:37:11 am
I'm not saying that no one should be allowed to write such fiction, it just seems like they don't understand how traumatic the experience is to the kids who get sent to the camp and at the very least they should acknowledge this when they write their fapfiction.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Canadian Mojo on September 17, 2016, 11:26:41 am
Look at how light-hearted most war stories are. A pile of bodies later and the good guys win. No moral ambiguity, no post traumatic stress disorder, no lasting repercussions from injuries, no mention of the widows, orphans, childless parents, and general mayhem left in the hero's wake.

The truth of the matter is that you can go grim dark for any topic. By in large, that just is not what people want. You're only noticing it because this topic is important to you. I'm not saying it isn't an important topic, but the way things work either we all speak or none of us do.

Fortunately that right to speak freely mean that we can call these people a bunch of tasteless fucking retards.   ;)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Sigmaleph on September 18, 2016, 08:17:23 pm

These people are taking the issue of the ongoing abuse of gay people (mind you it was even brought up in a serious manner) and making it into a joke to giggle at.

that does not seem evident from the link you posted?

I don't think they are laughing at the general societal situation of conversion therapy existing. The one person who said anything about laughing was bringing up the point of specific characters being sent to conversion therapy, which is an entirely different thing.

Laughing at fiction is not laughing at reality. People make silly cartoons where cute animals behead each other, and laughing at that does not imply you think murder is ok. I dislike the idea that if an issue is Serious Enough, then you're somehow doing something wrong by joking about it, or engaging with it in any specific way via fiction. (there are time/place/audience points to take into account, yes. but i don't think that's the issue here)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Art Vandelay on September 19, 2016, 08:42:18 pm
Yeah, damn all of those heterosexual asexuals, the paradoxical bastards.

As least, I assume that's what that means. I'm not quite fluent in Tumblrina.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Iosa the Invincible on September 20, 2016, 12:56:51 am
They later edited the post apologizing for the antisemitism (concentration camp mention), but said that "they would never apologize for being angry at their oppressors".  Also apparently they're 13. 
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Sigmaleph on September 21, 2016, 05:56:12 pm
Yeah, damn all of those heterosexual asexuals, the paradoxical bastards.

As least, I assume that's what that means. I'm not quite fluent in Tumblrina.

Usually the het in het-ace (or cishet ace) means heteroromantic
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: SCarpelan on September 22, 2016, 01:46:05 am
The Cuban national volley ball team played against Finland a while ago and while they were here five members of the Cuban team raped a woman. They have just been sentenced to jail and one of my city's councillors shared his thoughts about the case in twitter. The context is that the victim met one of the Cubans in a night club and went with him to his hotel room where they had consensual sex. Later in the night she was gang raped by five of them.

Quote from: Jorma Uski's tweet
The "victim" went voluntarily to the rapists' hotel room in the middle of the night. After having a cigarette break together. #languagebarrier?

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Uski explains to Ilta-Sanomat that the original intent of his tweet was to wonder why the victim left with a stranger and to the hotel room in the middle of the night.

- I don't know if the question was posed in the court but it should have. I think she has victimized herself, Uski says and tells he would make the exact same tweet again.

Uski tells he vehemently opposes the mentality of consumer having no responsibility.

- If in America someone cuts himself with a knife the manufacturer gets sued if they haven't explicitly warned that the product may damage you.

With "consumer" he says he refers to the woman who was raped in Tampere.

The True Finns have real quality politicians on the local level.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: ironbite on September 22, 2016, 09:36:12 am
...............oh good political stupidy isn't just here in the States.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: dpareja on September 24, 2016, 02:38:29 pm
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Yeah, but cops have to deal with the public and are SUPPOSED to SERVE AND PROTECT. Military is just supposed to protect and remove the threat. They def are dealing with more situations involving threats, but they have six steps they have to follow before they even pull out their weapons with the intent to shoot. These cops already have their guns out before they even get out of the vehicle.

Bud,

Show me a solid source of where the cops have their guns out prior to leaving in the car. Particularly where the suspect doesn't have a gun out already. Your statement sounds like a load of hyperbole, cops will have guns out immediately if the suspect is reported to have a gun if not they won't. They do serve and protect, but they are under no obligation to commit suicide by following the type of protocol you seem to desire.

EDIT: I should note that the first post was in reply to another post, but that post was not made by the author of the second post.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Skybison on September 25, 2016, 12:01:04 am
Let's change that a bit:

"If your OTP isn't Aryan, imagine both of them being sent to Auschwitz by the Nazis. There they fall in love, but can it survive? Can they?"

There, perhaps that will help them understand.

That's more or less the romantic comedy Life is Beautiful.  It won three Academy Awards.

There's also a song about the holocaust that is seen by many as very sexy, although I think most of the people who have sex to it don't know that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEVow6kr5nI
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: SCarpelan on September 30, 2016, 11:21:55 am
A Finnish business owner posted this on his store's Facebook page:

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This tolerating everything and grovelling is becoming such nervewracking crap that I have to declare a bit.

I don't preach much about my opinions here in the FB of my business but now I open up enough to say that we LEATHER HEAVEN are a HETERO FRIENDLY store.

-Timppa-

Uh... You have a store called Leather Heaven and decide to insult the gay community. The business sense you show is astonishing.

He also apparently responds to a deleted comment:

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No. But in general, now when somebody decided to send a rainbow flag into the space. I thought that no rainbows are growing in our corners.

The comments are largely hilarious with people asking things like if they are still welcome to the store since they don't live in the same town as the owner or don't support the same ice hockey club as he.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on September 30, 2016, 11:41:02 am
The comments about that have been funny. And the store owner also misspelled his original statement. The words for hetero and friendly should have been combined to a single word instead of being two separate words. ...he wrote that his store is a "friendly heterosexual" rather than "hetero-friendly."
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Iosa the Invincible on October 01, 2016, 02:21:59 pm
The people in the link below are talking about what the not-good thing is, not actually doing it. 

http://spooky-keith-kogane.tumblr.com/post/151154598124/peanutbutterpidge-remade-donutdog7-all (http://spooky-keith-kogane.tumblr.com/post/151154598124/peanutbutterpidge-remade-donutdog7-all)

TL;DR  Allegedly, anti-shippers sent shippers of a "problematic ship" actual RL child porn anonymously.

I say "allegedly" because, being anonymous, it may have just been the worst kind of troll, and they don't say whether there was any message accompanying the porn.  For all we know, they could be making the whole thing up, but if this is real, holy shit.

I think I'm a bit more inclined to believe this actually happened since I've seen it happen before.  Several years ago, someone came to Skaianet (a Homestuck imageboard site) and submitted actual cp.  I was on the site when it happened. 
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on October 05, 2016, 06:14:24 am
I don't even want to link the stuff here but I found a blog from a Troll... He is a guy who posts screencaps of his 4Chan trolling (because it's no good if the evidence of the times he got someone's attention disappear) and brags about getting banned from 4Chan for typing violent rape fantasies. He does one post describing how he likes to join new RPG campaigns and make his character have some vital role in the party ...and then not come to the games. He particularly bragged that sometimes he can make the GM reschedule a session twice because of the troll complaining that he can't come on some particular day before the others realize that he was just trolling them. ...And then in his next screencap he is crying and complaining about people who miss sessions and goes on a long rant where he says that any guy who gets a child should be removed from the RPG group (and all contact with him stopped) as well as ranting about the evils of feminism.

...In other words, 99% of the stuff he writes is contradictory bullshit that is only intended to get replies and make people angry. There was one incident where a guy wrote about the death of his wife and the troll came in begging for a photo of her because he "likes to masturbate while looking at pictures of women who died violently or painfully."

In fact, the rape/murder fantasies that he writes seem to be the only consistency in his ranting.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: pyro on October 05, 2016, 12:38:39 pm
I don't even want to link the stuff here but I found a blog from a Troll... He is a guy who posts screencaps of his 4Chan trolling (because it's no good if the evidence of the times he got someone's attention disappear) and brags about getting banned from 4Chan for typing violent rape fantasies. He does one post describing how he likes to join new RPG campaigns and make his character have some vital role in the party ...and then not come to the games. He particularly bragged that sometimes he can make the GM reschedule a session twice because of the troll complaining that he can't come on some particular day before the others realize that he was just trolling them. ...And then in his next screencap he is crying and complaining about people who miss sessions and goes on a long rant where he says that any guy who gets a child should be removed from the RPG group (and all contact with him stopped) as well as ranting about the evils of feminism.

...In other words, 99% of the stuff he writes is contradictory bullshit that is only intended to get replies and make people angry. There was one incident where a guy wrote about the death of his wife and the troll came in begging for a photo of her because he "likes to masturbate while looking at pictures of women who died violently or painfully."

In fact, the rape/murder fantasies that he writes seem to be the only consistency in his ranting.

(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/685/593/398.png)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on October 05, 2016, 12:55:16 pm
Not even that, there's no real conviction begin his statements, just trolling for attention using whatever he thinks might make his audience angry or disgusted.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: SCarpelan on October 06, 2016, 11:58:40 am
An insightful and rational analysis by Alex Jones about the current election.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ncpzkxl_Rs
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on October 25, 2016, 11:21:09 am
The "my black friend says it's okay for white people to say the n-word" hydra sprouts yet another insidious head.

...oh who the fuck am I kidding the head's probably always been there.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Lana Reverse on November 20, 2016, 10:50:54 pm
(http://oi63.tinypic.com/23tjq1k.jpg)

There are legitimate reasons to be concerned about Europe's demographic decline, but calling it "white genocide" is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: SCarpelan on November 21, 2016, 09:12:12 am
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Unless climate changes & evolves, it will disprove the theory of evolution. Climate IS change. The more climate changes the more it stays the same. Change is climate's green fuel. Change completes climate. Without change, climate is incomplete. Climate can't change since acc to Socialism, under Capitalism, Man Change is real. Man who doesn't exist can't be the cause of anything. Don't deny climate access to hope & change. Don't anthropomorphize climate. Scientists discovered antidote for "Climate Change". They called it- Placebo. Other scientists are entitled to their religious believes in "Climate Change". it's not that climate is changing, it's that you Leftists are static. Take a pill & move. Take money out of "Climate Change" "science". CNN pundits don't even know what climate is. Unless climate changes, it will die as the least fit. Climate is a relation of present set of weather patterns to present situation on the earth, NOT to past set of weather patterns. Fake News, told us, 97% chance Trump will lose. now, 97% chance that there exist "climate change". FYI, "climate change" not only doesn't exist, it cannot exist. It's a contradiction in terms. Smoke & society, O2 & CO2 can co-exist coequally. Don't deport change. Trump your xenophobia. Climate is not a balloon that will explode if "too much bad gas" flies into it. Climate is a self-regulating input-output system, just like US borders. Now don't be a bigot and allow climate to change. Don't be progressively leftarded. Join The Progressive Right
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: RavynousHunter on November 21, 2016, 09:14:43 am
Pure, distilled word salad.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Sigmaleph on November 22, 2016, 07:59:26 pm
Troll.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on November 22, 2016, 11:40:08 pm
I fed it through an actual word salad generator. (http://christophercormier.com/Computer/ParagraphRandomizer.aspx)

Observe.

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But is it art?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: SCarpelan on November 23, 2016, 04:13:49 am
Troll.

That was my first thought. Then I assumed that a troll would try to make actual sensible arguments to get a reaction instead of confusing people.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: SCarpelan on November 24, 2016, 10:20:09 pm
Apparently in some Finnish feminist FB group there is a thread for racialized members where the non-racialized members aren't allowed to post. A prominent MRA posted a screencap about the discussion. A friend commented on this image and the discussion about the screencap appeared on my wall.

Bwaaa. Racism against whites. Intersectionality equals racism. Bwaaaaaaaa. I've kicked racist skinheads' asses and that's just as racist as them. Bwaaaaaaaaaa.

Edit: I couldn't resist commenting on the discussion. The answer was pretty much: "Well, they could at least make a group of their own instead of teasing the white members with a thread they can't participate in." If I was more confrontational and had energy for a heated debate I would have pointed out the privileged arrogance shining through in the otherwise friendly answer.

Edit: Another fried commented on the same screencap in a different discussion and the answers he is getting after explaining the issue with much more patience that I have are precious. "Law says discrimination is illegal and that's why there is no discrimination in Finland against non-whites. This is illegal discrimination and could be reported to police."
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: dpareja on November 26, 2016, 07:02:26 am
https://www.gspellchecker.com/2016/02/whats-being-said-about-atheists-in-arabic/

(https://www.gspellchecker.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/image-30.png)

(https://www.gspellchecker.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/image-40.png)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on November 26, 2016, 09:03:15 am
https://www.gspellchecker.com/2016/02/whats-being-said-about-atheists-in-arabic/

(https://www.gspellchecker.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/image-30.png)

(https://www.gspellchecker.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/image-40.png)
This one was the most mental

(https://www.gspellchecker.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/image_thumb-43.png)

IF U NO BELIEVE FAIRYSTORY I BEAT U 2 DEATH WITH YOUR TOEJAMS!!!
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: RavynousHunter on November 26, 2016, 09:21:16 am
Savagery, one of the few things that cross any and all human boundaries.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on November 26, 2016, 09:40:23 am
That shoe thing is cultural: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/3776970/Arab-culture-the-insult-of-the-shoe.html
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Lana Reverse on November 26, 2016, 12:09:12 pm
I'd ask these people how my atheism is harmful to them, but I don't think it would accomplish anything. Besides, I don't know Arabic.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: ironbite on November 26, 2016, 03:17:15 pm
You're also a woman and that's also something that counts against you.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: dpareja on November 26, 2016, 08:48:49 pm
I'd ask these people how my atheism is harmful to them, but I don't think it would accomplish anything. Besides, I don't know Arabic.

It reminds them that there are people who get along just fine without having to accept make-believe stories as reality.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Lana Reverse on December 05, 2016, 03:22:45 pm
(https://i.reddituploads.com/6490ec43d8a947978d0ced8c9b774453?fit=max&h=1536&w=1536&s=d8bf8ec26c4712f7230ed12c170045de)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: ironbite on December 05, 2016, 04:00:37 pm
*faceclaws*
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: dpareja on December 05, 2016, 05:37:17 pm
So what mixture of racial heritages do I have to be to learn English?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Sigmaleph on December 05, 2016, 06:34:19 pm
(https://i.reddituploads.com/6490ec43d8a947978d0ced8c9b774453?fit=max&h=1536&w=1536&s=d8bf8ec26c4712f7230ed12c170045de)

This sort of thing really annoys me. Learning a second language was the most opportunity-enhancing thing I ever did, and it sure doesn't look like native English speakers are worse for it...
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Art Vandelay on December 05, 2016, 06:52:26 pm
So what mixture of racial heritages do I have to be to learn English?
English, but only if your not so distant ancestors are French, Norse and Saxon, with just a dash of Celtic and the tiniest smidgen of Roman.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Lana Reverse on December 08, 2016, 02:46:56 pm
So what mixture of racial heritages do I have to be to learn English?
English, but only if your not so distant ancestors are French, Norse and Saxon, with just a dash of Celtic and the tiniest smidgen of Roman.

And that's assuming you're not using loanwords.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Lana Reverse on December 17, 2016, 10:34:29 am
http://www.returnofkings.com/19589/why-you-should-beat-your-kids (http://www.returnofkings.com/19589/why-you-should-beat-your-kids)

As if RoK's hatred of women wasn't bad enough...
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Eiki-mun on December 17, 2016, 06:20:31 pm
It's apparently been deleted.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Lana Reverse on December 17, 2016, 07:35:59 pm
It's apparently been deleted.

Here's an archive (https://archive.is/WM8b5).
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: RavynousHunter on December 17, 2016, 08:30:07 pm
The first few comments.  When even people on Return of fucking Kings think you're full of shit, you're a special kind of idiot.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: niam2023 on December 17, 2016, 11:49:36 pm
I'll just say if my parents treated me like how that guy was describing, I'd wait. Grow older a bit. Wait a little until they went to bed and were soundly asleep. Then I'd take a knife and...does anyone really need to know the rest of this story?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: dpareja on December 19, 2016, 09:33:52 pm
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/truck-crash-berlin-christmas-market-1.3903677

A truck crashed into a Christmas market in Berlin, killing at least twelve. As of about four hours ago, nothing was known about the identity of the driver. (I haven't looked too closely to see what else has been determined in that regard, and quotes should be taken in the context of having been made more than three hours before this post.) That didn't stop a Trump supporter from posting this (images hidden because large):

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So I took issue with that blatant leap, and said:

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I see nothing in that article (or in this one (http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/truck-crash-berlin-christmas-market-1.3903677), or this one (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38373867)) to say that it was a Muslim who committed this atrocity, assuming that it was indeed deliberate (though eyewitnesses claim that it was). Even if the driver of the truck was a Muslim, that doesn't mean he attacked in the name of Islam or was affiliated with any particular terrorist group. He could just have been unhinged, like the shooter who murdered 49 people at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando*.

*Yes, the shooter claimed allegiance to various groups, but those groups disclaimed him and the general agreement among law enforcement was that he fit the profile of a mass shooter, not a religious terrorist.

And instead of posting any sort of rebuttal to this, he just posts another large image:

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Then I said:

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For fuck's sake, I didn't say it wasn't. I'm just not jumping to conclusions based on no evidence.

Crickets from the other person, but I'm wondering just how stupid his next response will be.

(Also, given what's happened in Europe over the last year or two, it wouldn't surprise me at all if this was a terrorist attack and the driver was affiliated with some sort of Islamic terrorist group. I just don't see any evidence to that effect as yet.)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: TheContrarian on December 20, 2016, 02:38:35 am
Well, Looks like the initial call of terrorist was accurate (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38375555)

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They have detained the driver, who security sources reportedly say is an Afghan or Pakistani asylum seeker.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on December 29, 2016, 05:17:21 pm
Gah.

(http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/files/2016/12/pedomeme6.jpg)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Lana Reverse on December 29, 2016, 05:29:25 pm
Gah.

(http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/files/2016/12/pedomeme6.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/SwfNTmx.jpg)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Eiki-mun on December 29, 2016, 05:54:51 pm
Why did it have to be my hometown...
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on December 29, 2016, 08:01:12 pm
I found it on Pharyngula (http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2016/12/29/spokane-washingtons-most-single-man/#more-33150), his "thinking" seems to be that young ladies, including teenagers should lust after him because older dudes have "longer telomeres", make of that what you will.

He manages to ruin bacon, on the internet. Observe.

(http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/files/2016/12/pedomeme5.jpg)

(http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/wp-content/blogs.dir/3/files/2016/12/pedomeme2.jpg)

(click to show/hide)

And here's the very fella who wants to cover jailbait with his "superior, longer telomeres",

(http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/wp-content/blogs.dir/3/files/2016/12/lucaswerner.jpg)

Ladies!!!
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Zygarde on December 29, 2016, 10:23:44 pm
...So I think I've become even more disgusted with sex than I already was, yep this dude has made my already pretty high dislike of sex even higher. Congrats.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Art Vandelay on December 29, 2016, 11:14:13 pm
It's the pictures of food he uses as backgrounds that really sells it.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: niam2023 on December 30, 2016, 12:42:22 am
Nobody wants to have sex with you for a reason you miserable, ugly old fart.

Just when you think the incels cannot get worse you get this guy.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: RavynousHunter on December 30, 2016, 08:48:46 am
Except, this guy's a complete retard that can't even look shit up on Wikipedia, or he'd know that telomerase and telomere length are no indication of even how old one happens to be.  All telomerase does is basically refresh cells so they can divide past the Hayflick limit and survive longer...and too much of it can give you fucking cancer.

But, yeah, I'm going to believe some shut-in over actual doctors and biologists.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Lana Reverse on December 31, 2016, 11:33:44 am
http://theurbantwist.com/2016/12/30/lost-another-one-serena-hottentot-williams-engaged-hes-white/ (http://theurbantwist.com/2016/12/30/lost-another-one-serena-hottentot-williams-engaged-hes-white/)

Okay, before you click that link, who do you think wrote the article: a Stormfreak or an SJW?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: dpareja on December 31, 2016, 11:36:02 am
At a guess from the link (not knowing anything about The Urban Twist)... Stormfreak.

EDIT:

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on December 31, 2016, 12:15:01 pm
Based on the wording of the title/link I would say SJW. The shocking twist in the title seems to be that her husband is white and a white nationalist who is angry at a race traitor would put more focus on the white person rather than the non-white.

Unfortunately(?) my computer doesn't seem to be able to open the link.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Skybison on January 03, 2017, 02:06:31 am
More from that Spokane nut

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Christian girls are like Hitler.  Atheist girls are like Hitler.  Religious girls are like Hitler.  Spiritual girls are like Hitler.  Girls who believe are like Hitler.  Women are like Hitler.  Fuck you, uncle Adolph.

Say what you will about MGTOW, but at least their bullshit makes sense in theory.  Women are horrible so we stay away from them.  But these incels... if all women are Hitler level evil, WHY DO YOU WANT TO DATE THEM?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Zygarde on January 03, 2017, 02:27:48 am
Cause to them the fact that women don't want to touch their limp dicks makes them angry, they believe that since they are the "Alphas" of the world they are entitled to sex with women, instead of the despicable "Betas"  (just typing this crap makes me annoyed.) So when women don't fuck them they are evil witches, and when women fuck men other than them they are sluts. I hate incels, them along with neck beards ruined fedoras!
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: niam2023 on January 03, 2017, 04:18:00 am
More from that Spokane nut

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Christian girls are like Hitler.  Atheist girls are like Hitler.  Religious girls are like Hitler.  Spiritual girls are like Hitler.  Girls who believe are like Hitler.  Women are like Hitler.  Fuck you, uncle Adolph.

Say what you will about MGTOW, but at least their bullshit makes sense in theory.  Women are horrible so we stay away from them.  But these incels... if all women are Hitler level evil, WHY DO YOU WANT TO DATE THEM?

Because for them, they mean Fuck Hitler literally.

^ Also yeah - somehow a girl is a whore for not sleeping with them.

Lets not get into their vaguely homoerotic fantasies about some dude named Chad. One of them quoted talked about Chad's "manly muscles" and "perfect jawline".
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Art Vandelay on January 03, 2017, 04:53:57 am
Hey, don't knock Chad. He's a fucking dreamboat.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: The_Queen on January 03, 2017, 10:43:35 am
More from that Spokane nut

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Christian girls are like Hitler.  Atheist girls are like Hitler.  Religious girls are like Hitler.  Spiritual girls are like Hitler.  Girls who believe are like Hitler.  Women are like Hitler.  Fuck you, uncle Adolph.

Say what you will about MGTOW, but at least their bullshit makes sense in theory.  Women are horrible so we stay away from them.  But these incels... if all women are Hitler level evil, WHY DO YOU WANT TO DATE THEM?

Because for them, they mean Fuck Hitler literally.

^ Also yeah - somehow a girl is a whore for not sleeping with them.

Lets not get into their vaguely homoerotic fantasies about some dude named Chad. One of them quoted talked about Chad's "manly muscles" and "perfect jawline".

Leave Chad Sexington out of this, the fuck did he ever do to you?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on January 03, 2017, 06:42:35 pm
Chad Sexington stoled all the girlies. Damn you Chad!!!
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: niam2023 on January 04, 2017, 12:30:37 am
Incel: Chad stole all the girls I wanted. Him with his macho muscles, perfect jawline, abs for days, charming smile...

Regular Person / "Normie": ...You really seem more into Chad...
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: RavynousHunter on January 04, 2017, 10:06:04 am
Riley Freeman: "Ew.  Nigga, you gay."
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on January 04, 2017, 12:05:47 pm
I'm just reminded of some stand up comedian saying "So many religious homophobes have turned out to be gay that I am actually scared of secretly being a giant spider."
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Lana Reverse on January 09, 2017, 01:40:30 pm
Guess what Time magazine is blaming for the torture video?

http://time.com/4626743/chicago-torture-video/?xid=homepage (http://time.com/4626743/chicago-torture-video/?xid=homepage)

Before you click that link, make your best guess.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: dpareja on January 09, 2017, 02:01:21 pm
From a hardcore Trump supporter:

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You people are completely subverted, immunized against facts and reality. I don't know why I ever bother trying to debate or reason with you people.

(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/430/877/271.gif)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on January 09, 2017, 04:17:17 pm
I don't agree with the conclusion that the "real menaces" in that story is a society that doesn't care about the mentally ill. Nope, checked.the vid. It was definitely four arseholes tormenting him.

That said, it's absolutely true that mental illness becomes a convenient political football that's tossed aside when it's usefulness in making a moral point expires.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Lana Reverse on January 09, 2017, 06:16:44 pm
From a hardcore Trump supporter:

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You people are completely subverted, immunized against facts and reality. I don't know why I ever bother trying to debate or reason with you people.

(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/430/877/271.gif)

You mean like the fact that illegal immigration is at its lowest in decades (http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2016/mar/17/barack-obama/barack-obama-austin-says-illegal-immigration-40-ye/)?

Oh wait, by "facts and reality", you mean the Donald's claims.

I don't agree with the conclusion that the "real menaces" in that story is a society that doesn't care about the mentally ill. Nope, checked.the vid. It was definitely four arseholes tormenting him.

That said, it's absolutely true that mental illness becomes a convenient political football that's tossed aside when it's usefulness in making a moral point expires.

That's not all. The author also blamed movies and video games. I guess the Nice and Berlin attacks were caused by Euro Truck Simulator.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: dpareja on January 09, 2017, 06:21:22 pm
From a hardcore Trump supporter:

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You people are completely subverted, immunized against facts and reality. I don't know why I ever bother trying to debate or reason with you people.

(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/430/877/271.gif)

You mean like the fact that illegal immigration is at its lowest in decades (http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2016/mar/17/barack-obama/barack-obama-austin-says-illegal-immigration-40-ye/)?

Oh wait, by "facts and reality", you mean the Donald's claims.

It's funny enough in any context coming from a Trump supporter, but it's in reference to people calling him out for citing these two videos as credible sources on Islam:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-Bc5f9_YoFk

Prefaced with this:

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(http://i.imgur.com/eQo2f4R.jpg)

The ignorance in this thread about the history of Islam and the fall of the Classical world is appalling, though not surprising given liberal academia's refusal to teach real history. Watch these two videos and educate yourselves on the TRUE NATURE of Islam.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on January 09, 2017, 07:05:11 pm

(http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/files/2017/01/acarepeal.png)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on January 09, 2017, 07:23:28 pm
And from the other side of the aisle...
(http://i.imgur.com/OsiuQQX.jpg)

Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Art Vandelay on January 09, 2017, 07:58:57 pm
It seems like Black Lives Matter is suffering from the same problems as GamerGate, in that you one group that genuinely cares about the issue at hand, and another group of simple bigots using the former as a smokescreen.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: dpareja on January 09, 2017, 08:04:14 pm
It seems like Black Lives Matter is suffering from the same problems as GamerGate, in that you one group that genuinely cares about the issue at hand, and another group of simple bigots using the former as a smokescreen.

Except that for BLM, the claimed issue really is a problem, while for GG it was a farce.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Art Vandelay on January 09, 2017, 08:14:01 pm
It seems like Black Lives Matter is suffering from the same problems as GamerGate, in that you one group that genuinely cares about the issue at hand, and another group of simple bigots using the former as a smokescreen.

Except that for BLM, the claimed issue really is a problem, while for GG it was a farce.

I know.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: niam2023 on January 09, 2017, 10:53:09 pm
This kind of reminds me of something a villain of mine said, basically in a case of real life writing the plot of a story.

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Lord Eclipse: You know, I previously had quite a hard time selling social darwinism to the left. The right gobbled it up, because in their infantile view point, that "apex survivor" is white, regardless how much I try to stress that all of their infirm and unworthy will be purged as well. The left perplexed me...but now, I've found a way to bring everyone into my tent, so to speak. Now, they feel cheated, like they, the rightful, powerful victor, was cheated by the weak, the worthless, the stupid...and that, that is a mindset that led those youths from Chicago to ME. Justice is a fine word, but when angry enough, its meaning becomes...whatever you feel like it is.

In terms of what's gone on there, its proof that when you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes right back into you.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on January 10, 2017, 10:02:41 am
Guess what Time magazine is blaming for the torture video?

http://time.com/4626743/chicago-torture-video/?xid=homepage (http://time.com/4626743/chicago-torture-video/?xid=homepage)

Before you click that link, make your best guess.

...Everything? That was difficult to read and it didn't make much sense. Just a random list of things that the writer didn't like and insinuation that they are the reason for this attack but no actual evidence or logic.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: pyro on January 11, 2017, 03:55:46 pm
Guess what Time magazine is blaming for the torture video?

http://time.com/4626743/chicago-torture-video/?xid=homepage (http://time.com/4626743/chicago-torture-video/?xid=homepage)

Before you click that link, make your best guess.

I guess Russia.

Edit: Okay, here's what I've managed to glean from it:


It's tamer than I thought it would be. Just somebody using this thing as a political platform, while simultaneously criticizing people for using it as a political platform. Same stuff you get from every school shooting. As you've already noticed by the thing before the edit, I thought they were going to go Godlike Productions on us.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on January 15, 2017, 09:45:35 pm
The latest in truly weird brainfarts from the chans involves a joining of forces between the Nazis, the MRAs and the Incels, even though the Nazis and MRAs want the Incels to fuck off those Incel scamps just can't help themselves. It's called Operation B.A.B.B.Y. (http://wonkette.com/610440/hey-white-ladies-4chan-wants-to-meme-some-babies-into-your-womb)

(http://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Screen-Shot-2017-01-13-at-3.26.13-PM.png)

Note orders for MGTOW nerd virgins not to post, I'm sure they'll behave themselves...

(http://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Screen-Shot-2017-01-13-at-3.14.00-PM.png)
...nah!

And it's SOOPER, SOOPER SEEKRIT GUIZE!!!

(http://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Screen-Shot-2017-01-13-at-3.39.55-PM.png)

Don't tell anyone!

Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Lana Reverse on January 29, 2017, 11:40:00 am
(http://i.imgur.com/ZUQImcl.jpg)

I've actually read two of the studies this picture cites. One was a failed experiment, and another found women to have more neurons than men.

Besides, if we women really were so stupid and pathetic, how stupid and pathetic is a group of males (I hesitate to call them "men") that feels threatened by us?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on January 30, 2017, 09:50:07 am
I thought I'd take a gander at what the Trump fanboys are up to on Reddit...

Thread title: Spot the difference.
(https://i.redditmedia.com/1rndDRsh95xC9UozXPzREqwLHmPw2gbR6zRb3_aXOjY.jpg?w=1024&s=8d628a6054a7a1ed0b0ee8959ef460c5)

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Messy but organized. That means he's busy GETTING STUFF DONE

Because everything is done on paper and those are definitely the real actual papers he gets and not just scenery for the photo-op?

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One is a racist, evil man looking to divide our country and ruin global relationships in order to start WWIII and fill his pockets.

The other is President Donald J. Trump working for the people.

Unfortunately the "best" comments were deleted before I got back from work because originally this thread had a dozen more comments that a) called Obama a nigger b) Went on and on how Trump is an ALPHA MALE while Obama is a cuck c)  complained about Obama setting his feet on the desk in some other photo and how Trump would never do something so boorish.

Seems like they do a lot of cleaning up in there. In fact, there's another Reddit group made up of people who get banned from the fanclub. (Reasons for banning vary from trolling to not being a sycophant or simply asking if the others really think that Trump is cool.)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on January 30, 2017, 04:19:08 pm
Found on r/incels

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Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Lana Reverse on January 30, 2017, 04:25:22 pm
"Balloon appearing noise?" That's just lazy.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: davedan on January 30, 2017, 04:38:22 pm
"pop" - That wasn't hard.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: pyro on January 30, 2017, 06:24:14 pm
Allow me to quote the great philosopher Nice Peter:

Quote from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mbGUld2w-s
And... DOINK!
Nice punchline bro,
Your jokes haven't grown,
Since you told them in a lunchline bro,
You're an eight-year-old boy,
Stuck inside a whatever-year-old man,
"Look at me, I'm [incel], I can,
[Blog] about my problems instead of solvin' them,"
You wanna heal,
You gotta deal,
With your issues,
'Cause the bottle's not stoppin' em
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: ironbite on January 30, 2017, 06:27:50 pm
I love that rap battle.

Ironbite-good way to end the season too.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: pyro on January 30, 2017, 06:51:23 pm
"pop" - That wasn't hard.

"pop" was used one panel later for the balloon going away.

Assuming the string wasn't taut when the balloon appeared, you could probably just use "doink", since that's about the noise the balloon will make when it bounces on the end of its string after floating to the top. You'd need to make sure it's shown reverberating off the string.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on January 31, 2017, 01:44:13 am
I don't think it's a bad comic. It is true that for some people life is harder than the others (notice how the suffering person has an empty balloon called health and clearly has more problems than the person in the first panel) and loneliness certainly is a real problem.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Skybison on January 31, 2017, 02:36:19 am
I don't think the basic idea is bad on it's own merits, but coming from r/incel, the people who want the government to force women to date them at gunpoint, it raises nasty implications.  It's like when Islamophobes talk about how Islam threatens women's rights but want Muslim women kicked out of western countries. A fig leaf of reasonableness to cover up the bigoted core of their ideology.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on January 31, 2017, 03:35:01 am
OK, I get that you don't like the site it comes from but I don't sense anything particularly evil or wrong about his comic and don't know if they made it or if they simply shared it because they identified with the message in it.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on February 01, 2017, 02:18:40 am
Not disagreeing with your points Askold but I can't help noticing a, the woman carries no burdens which fits in with the incel view of women as being more privileged than poor downtrodden incel men and b, she rejects him just for shits and giggles which fits in with the incel view of women being evil harpy succubi.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on February 01, 2017, 02:46:35 am
Well if you go with that then maybe, but if you assume that the genders are random or that the POV is of the burdened character and they do not know what kind of burdens other people carry then it's not bad.

I don't know incel well enough to know if this comic really is a misogynistic "guys suffer women get it easy" propaganda, but at least you can easily interpret it in a better way.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: pyro on February 01, 2017, 09:27:11 am
The woman is clearly aware of burden guy's problem.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Lana Reverse on February 01, 2017, 02:55:41 pm
Was that comic actually drawn by an incel?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Sigmaleph on February 01, 2017, 03:46:54 pm
Not disagreeing with your points Askold but I can't help noticing a, the woman carries no burdens which fits in with the incel view of women as being more privileged than poor downtrodden incel men and b, she rejects him just for shits and giggles which fits in with the incel view of women being evil harpy succubi.

a) ok, but she doesn't have balloons either? I think it's clear that it's not meant to show the things she 'carries with her', to make her look explicitly privileged she'd look like the guy in the first panel

b) She doesn't reject him, consider he doesn't make an advance in the first place. She just walks past him.

It seems like your argument is 'this comic is bad because it was made by an incel, who believe bad things'. As opposed to anything about the comic, which seems a pretty straightforward 'loneliness sucks' message.

and, y'know, loneliness does suck. Incels are not wrong about that.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on February 01, 2017, 04:53:31 pm
Not disagreeing with your points Askold but I can't help noticing a, the woman carries no burdens which fits in with the incel view of women as being more privileged than poor downtrodden incel men and b, she rejects him just for shits and giggles which fits in with the incel view of women being evil harpy succubi.

a) ok, but she doesn't have balloons either? I think it's clear that it's not meant to show the things she 'carries with her', to make her look explicitly privileged she'd look like the guy in the first panel

b) She doesn't reject him, consider he doesn't make an advance in the first place. She just walks past him.

It seems like your argument is 'this comic is bad because it was made by an incel, who believe bad things'. As opposed to anything about the comic, which seems a pretty straightforward 'loneliness sucks' message.

and, y'know, loneliness does suck. Incels are not wrong about that.

a), the person with a somewhat heavy burden is more privileged than the person with none? He's better off than the guy with a super heavy load but not the woman in the comic.
b), she notes that he needs help then proceeds to ignore his need for help. Looks like a rejection to me.
c) that was not remotely my argument, I just noted that the comic places the responsibility on the guy's final squished state on the cold-hearted woman who ignores his need for help that she shows full awareness of.
d) no shit, water is also wet.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Skybison on February 01, 2017, 10:47:36 pm
I read the comic as trying emotionally blackmailing women to date them.  "It makes me really depressed that you won't go out with me, so you're a horrible person if you don't"
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on February 02, 2017, 02:07:49 am
If that's they way they meant it then they should have had the guy say something because now it presumes that the woman should have through telepathy sensed that the guy wants her to go out with him. As it is there is no implication that the guy made any kind of advance towards her and all we see is her making a sympathetic comment and then moving on.

...Not that your theory is without merit as the "nice guy" concept would fit that interpretation. Maybe this is yet another example of writer trying to make a point but doing it so poorly that an alternate interpretation makes more sense. (Death of the author...) "Girls don't fall from the sky and show up offering to have sex with me, how horrible this world is."
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Art Vandelay on February 02, 2017, 02:25:22 am
Crippling loneliness may be bad, but if he does indeed overcook his pasta, he has much bigger problems on his hands.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on February 02, 2017, 04:26:24 am
If that's they way they meant it then they should have had the guy say something because now it presumes that the woman should have through telepathy sensed that the guy wants her to go out with him. As it is there is no implication that the guy made any kind of advance towards her and all we see is her making a sympathetic comment and then moving on.

...Not that your theory is without merit as the "nice guy" concept would fit that interpretation. Maybe this is yet another example of writer trying to make a point but doing it so poorly that an alternate interpretation makes more sense. (Death of the author...) "Girls don't fall from the sky and show up offering to have sex with me, how horrible this world is."
I actually agree that there's more than one way to interpret this webcomic. Yes, the fact that I found it on r/Incels did make me focus on the bit where she notes he has a heavy load and says "good luck with that". The load is probably a metaphor but yeah, she didn't need psychic powers to observe he needed help. She outright stated it.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on February 02, 2017, 04:58:21 am
I was referring to how he did not ask for help or ask her to go out with him or anything, not that she didn't see his troubles. She saw the he is having rough time and cheered him up before moving on. (Besides, not everyone can stop whatever they are doing to help each passerby they see in trouble and if this is about how lonely "nice guys" need dates then I point out that you can't expect random passerby to start going out with you just like that either.)

It's like the comic assumes that anyone who treats you like a human being or says anything nice either wants to fuck you or is friendzoning you...
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on February 05, 2017, 02:46:57 am
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No it is the "black shirts" paid by George Soros who turn peaceful protests into riots, just as the "brown shirts" did for Hitler in the late 20's (and later became the SS) who are the Nazis today. It's amazing how you don't see it with Clinton stealing the nomination from Sanders with her 900 insider votes before the people even voted. You're either ignorant or so progressive that you can't see the facts.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Wurdulac on February 05, 2017, 04:44:37 pm
This is more of an aside than actually addressing the content of...whatever the hell that was, but is it really so difficult for people to understand that the primaries are basically just a litmus test the parties use to determine who has the most popular support within their party?  That there's nothing wrong with them determining who to nominate prior to the primaries?  Why they pre-selected Clinton over anyone else is, as my best guess, because they felt she would have been able to work with the Repubs to get shit done more effectively than anyone else; whether that would have been true will never be known now.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on February 06, 2017, 01:43:24 am
Hey, that's just the "Clinton is EEVIL" meme and one of the many complaints about her that are randomly chosen whenever she is mentioned. I am more amused at the "Georgo Soros is behind everything bad" and "paid protestors" conspiracies. He went on to explain that the same rioters show up in every city that Milo goes to to wreck shit up and that the only way to explain this is if Soros is paying them...
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on February 08, 2017, 03:49:57 am
I thought he the worst the guy could do was misinterpret Jesus to make a claim he would have approved of Trump's wall and Muslim ban but somehow this is even worse.

(http://68.media.tumblr.com/932b04addcdbe2c7534ebf41ece163bc/tumblr_okka6aO4Pq1u4u3e4o1_500.jpg)

I mean, at least people have been using religion to defend their horrible ideas for thuosands of years so it's nothing new but this... He is saying that the Nazis who invaded other countries are better people than the refugees fleeing warzones?! And the old "refugees are all just grown men and no women or children among them" bullshit is getting boring by now but Nazis? REAL ACTUAL NAZIS used as a "good" counterpoint while insulting refugees? What the hell is wrong with these people?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: dpareja on February 08, 2017, 03:57:58 am
Nazis were white and the refugees are scary Muslim brown people.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on February 08, 2017, 04:11:42 am
But Nazis also had scary brown Muslim people...
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: dpareja on February 08, 2017, 04:18:55 am
But Nazis also had scary brown Muslim people...

No, they were all white, blond, blue-eyed Aryan supermen who were just reclaiming the land they once ruled.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on February 08, 2017, 04:27:50 am
Can you see these examples of Aryan beauty with their beautiful blond hair and muscular bodies with perfect bone structure?

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/48/7e/61/487e61c07499fa1dd2a4d6edf930acb9.jpg)

...I can't.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: dpareja on February 08, 2017, 04:41:01 am
Stop, you're making me hard.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on February 08, 2017, 06:34:34 am
"If your erection lasts longer than the third Reich, please contact a doctor."
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Art Vandelay on February 08, 2017, 07:18:21 am
Or the third ereichtion, if you will.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: RavynousHunter on February 08, 2017, 07:39:18 am
Damn, we need a like button...
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on February 12, 2017, 06:56:02 am
(https://i.imgur.com/5jX5h8h.jpg)


...Somehow my sheer astonishment at the gall this guy has manages to outdo the sheer creepiness that comes from him. I would report him to Blizzard and block him from any and all contact because obviously, but I also feel like he should be frozen in cryosleep and placed into a museum as an example of how entitled, creepy and arrogant humans can become.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: RavynousHunter on February 12, 2017, 08:38:52 am
I think he expects all Mercy players to be healsluts.  Considering how sizeable their group is, I'd not be surprised.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Art Vandelay on February 12, 2017, 09:29:22 am
Wow, how is that guy not already taken?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Lana Reverse on February 12, 2017, 12:06:56 pm
Buffalo Bill called. He says you're freaking him out.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: ironbite on February 12, 2017, 03:49:41 pm
I've seen that bouncing around on tumblr and yeah it's just super creepy.

Ironbite-hope he got reported and banned from human contact.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: pyro on February 12, 2017, 10:25:43 pm
I think I finally saw someone that outdoes Literal Motherfucker. I should probably be starting at a wall in shock...
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on February 12, 2017, 10:28:40 pm

...Somehow my sheer astonishment at the gall this guy has manages to outdo the sheer creepiness that comes from him. I would report him to Blizzard and block him from any and all contact because obviously, but I also feel like he should be frozen in cryosleep and placed into a museum as an example of how entitled, creepy and arrogant humans can become.
A sad reality of having a little sister who's trying on the whole internet dating thing is understanding from her field reports that this dude isn't in the minority.

She relates that shirtless dudes (Putin style) are common and a sizable minority of these like being photographed with their guns. Some of the blokes with guns have them pointed at the camera.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on February 13, 2017, 10:21:36 am
Oh wow, it has been a while since I last saw people defending the Legion from Fallout New Vegas but after getting more active on Reddit they sure do seem common in the Fallout fandom:

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Caesar isn't evil, he's entirely justified. Under his harsh hand the 4 states commonwealth was recivilized, rehumanized and reordered. Mutants and beasts and all crime was expunged and for the first time in three centuries humanity is on the rise again to reclaim it's rightful place. You don't understand that you couldn't walk down a road without being raped and eaten by raiders of monsters in the 4 states, you hardly understand the desire for order and stability as you live in it today, those people for 3 centuries had no order or peace or stability or any progress beyond the slow and steady decline from prominence before the war to being devoured by the world.

Oh no people died in a war, oh no how awful how terrible. People always die at wars and they always suffer. Caesar has been from the begging very clear, he will break all the little pots in order to make a new one and orderly one and a peaceful one.

Slaves suffer and reclaim the land, the Legion destroys all dangers to the people. The land is reclaimed and pacified and the people can survive in peace and harmony as long as taxes flow and law is observed. It's not the best life but it's better than another 3 centuries of perpetual suffering. Heck even his policy on women makes sense, the only way for humanity is to reclaim the world is by the two horns, the Womb and the sword. Women being so few and population so low they will never reclaim the world as such, but with mothers having dozens of children and their sons going to fight you see an explosion of humanity to dominate all other life.

Lol what a bunch of emotional babble, power is a good thing to wrap your hands around and harness if you are strong enough to do so, you should desire it if you want.

and

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You are the emotional babble dude.

Wahh no one should like power or being in charge of anything larger than themselves. No one should desire anything greater than dirt

One ruler states are achievable, Caesar is achieving one right now, Hell Arradash and Tandi ruled the NCR as one family ruling over it's domain for 70 years.

Killing to reclaim a state is very just and a very appropriate thing to do. Caesar reclaims the land for the human race against all mutants and monsters.

For being so civilized and such even look at the Mojave, you have it's main artery cut by deathclaws and no one can spare anyone to deal with the problem. You have the western route clogged with beasts and tribal raider and in the east you have even more beasts and raiders endangering the simple idea of walking down the road.

You have whole neighborhoods stealing water in order to survive and to scratch out when they have tons of freshwater.

Meanwhile I still think that the Legion is on the cartoon villain level of evil where they are so damn proud of genocide, slavery, luddism and torture they do and their entire existence is unsustainable so I don't get how someone can think that they are the good guys or even competent.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: RavynousHunter on February 13, 2017, 10:36:26 am
I have my misgivings when it comes to democracy, but even I know the NCR has a better chance of actually making the Mojave livable.  Hell, House himself said that the Legion was inevitably going to rip itself apart, either when Caesar dies of his health issues or when one of his generals kills him in a coup.  The Legion follows Caesar, not his ideals; again, this is explicitly spelled the hell out either by Marcus (read, the most intelligent person in the god damned wasteland) or Arcade Gannon (who is the child of a technologically advanced Legion), methinks.  Combine that with the fact that the savages barely wear actual armour or use real weapons, and there's no way they'd stand a chance against the NCR, which has access to power armour, actual weapons (read guns and directed-energy weapons), and oh, have the power of fucking flight.  The Legion is a group of barely-literate savages guided by megalomaniacal lunatic obsessed with ancient Rome.  Its basically a group of retards being led by a particularly well-spoken LARPer.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Art Vandelay on February 13, 2017, 12:15:09 pm
Personally, I think House is by far the best choice. Yes Man just throws everything back to immediate post-war anarchy (for absolutely no benefit to the Courier, no less). The Legion would at least bring peace and stability in the short term, all while destroying pretty much all of the pre-war tech and infrastructure that House managed to preserve before collapsing or at the very least fragmenting after Sallow is gone (either via coup or death by brain tumour). The NCR, while a clear 2nd best, are corrupt, bloated and spread way too thin. They can't even keep their core territories free of raiders, much less bring civilisation to their more unruly frontier provinces. Meanwhile, House has more access to and knowledge of pre-war tech than any faction in the wasteland, save perhaps the Enclave, as well as the means and the intention of actually using it to uplift the rest of humanity all the way up to pre-war society, as opposed to hoarding it for the sake of hoarding it, or using it to wipe out almost all sentient life.

If you ask me, the choice is very clear.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on February 13, 2017, 01:09:56 pm
House is cruel and will wipe out factions that annoy him. Like turning on the Kings if they made a truce with the NCR.

Yes Man is the most flexible as it depends on what the player has done. It is potentially the best one if the Courier has made friends out of all the minor factions and does not mean that Vegas can't ally itself with the NCR.

But yeah, NCR has the good and bad sides of a democracy including the corruption and inefficiency of the bureaucracy but they are still a lot better than the Legion.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Zygarde on February 13, 2017, 01:51:00 pm
The Legion is as I remember in a video about them "A bunch of Raiders who like to play dress up." Caesar likes to think he's living up to the ideals of Rome and all it's glory, but he's not. He's Rome right before it fell due to all the fruits of its conquests coming down upon itself. When Caesar dies and Legate Lanius becomes the new ruler (cause that will eventually happen) the Legion will tear itself apart; whether it be from the massive power vacuum that Caesar leaves behind, Lanius being shit at running anything more simple than an army.

That's not also not taking into account that even if they did win the Second Battle of Hoover Dam, they will lose in the long run, The Legion: Slow to adopt tech, rather brutal and slave loving and probably not quick to adapt it's tactics, vs the NCR: Massive advantage in tech, access to air power, more flexibility in tactics that the Legion. Hell it's implied that two Brotherhood of Steel groups are racing their way up to Californian, The Midwest Brotherhood would wipe the Legion off the map, and so would the East Coast Brotherhood.

TLDR: The Legion is fucked no matter what, and I'm glad that the slave happy son's of bitches are the bad guys.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: niam2023 on February 13, 2017, 03:04:45 pm
Just asking, are there Shin Megami Tensei Law Faction apologists? I mean, since there are people arguing that the Legion and Caesar are justified...
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: ironbite on February 13, 2017, 03:45:03 pm
The Legion is just not very good at what they claim to do.  Oh yes we're a bunch of ruthless killers who've been able to pacify part of the lawless wasteland that used to be the United States but can't seem to figure out that GUNS AND AMMO ARE LITERALLY LAYING AROUND EVERYWHERE!  No let's just use these shitty spears.  That'll get the job done.  I'll give them one thing, they're damn good infiltrators.  They can get just about anywhere without being detected so I'll give them that.  But as an army they're just not very good.

Ironbite-also Anarchy is the only way I go with New Vegas.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Lana Reverse on February 13, 2017, 04:19:13 pm
TBH, I kind of wish we got a more nuanced portrayal of the Legion. When you get right down to it, their only redeeming quality is the fact that killing them's good for XP.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: RavynousHunter on February 13, 2017, 06:19:20 pm
Plus, their savage garbs are at least good for making money; and their corpses make wonderful set dressing for an alternate ending where they manage to break thru and attack New Vegas, only to get decimated when they try to attack Securitrons with sharp sticks and knives.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Art Vandelay on February 13, 2017, 09:59:42 pm
TBH, I kind of wish we got a more nuanced portrayal of the Legion. When you get right down to it, their only redeeming quality is the fact that killing them's good for XP.
On that note, I wish there were some playable legion controlled territories. It'd be nice to be able to see for ourselves what Legion rule would actually be like, as opposed to just hearing about it from various NPCs.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: RavynousHunter on February 13, 2017, 11:49:02 pm
@niam: There's likely people who say "Adachi did nothing wrong" and actually mean it, sooooo...
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on February 14, 2017, 12:30:10 am
Someone made a good point that if you need an explanation why a Missionary would suddenly decide to become an evil emperor then it could be because of the tumor in his brain messing with his mind.


Anyway, if the Legion wasn't a bunch of luddites who hate technology (or claim to do so but the game has them use some guns anyway because otherwise they wouldn't be a threat to high level characters) they would be a more credible threat. And as Caesar's plan literally was to civilize them then why the hell didn't he do so right from the start? He spent a lot of time making them hate all civilization and be as cruel as possible (they were killing their slaves by working them hard, this is not sustainable even if you think it was "necessary" for the survival of mankind) and he really had no chance of reversing all he had done just because he found them a city.

Also:
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The legion isn't doomed to fall, the only people who say that are his malignant enemies and those he's already crushed before him in other fights.

If he can sit his Legion in Rome the it'll truly be a nation, if he falls before bringing it into Rome it will die. It's that simple.

A dead slave isn't a worry really, it's the cost of reclaiming the world, letting 1000 slaves die to clear radiological contaminants is a noble job for them to die. It's very sustainable to keep adding the uncivilized into the legion. Slaves breed slaves as you know and female slaves get pregnant. Lets say a man owns 20 slaves, 6 women who are pregnant churn out 6 new slaves every 9 months as well as his own wife having a child every 9 months you have nearly 15 people growth rate in a moderate household ever year and a half.

...I am starting to think that this guy is a troll or simply roleplaying a Legion fanatic. Because none of that makes any sense.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on February 16, 2017, 02:31:05 am
There's a Trump-fanboy on an FB group I'm in who went mental when McCain said something about how there seems to be discord in the WH and all the fanboy can do is insult McCain and disregard his claims. Repeatedly several people have pointed out that even if you think McCain is "literally Hitler" it doesn't change the fact that his statement was correct.

He got particularly mad at me because I'm a dirty foreigner and demanded that he be allowed to complain about Finnish politics. ...Which he did by making up another non-sequitor and claiming that Finland supports terrorism and genocide in Russia because one (1) Finnish person helped some Chechen refugees into Finland and helped maintain a web page for a Chechen movement (with no ties to terrorism.)

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When will Finland stop supporting Chechen terrorism? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikael_Storsj%C3%B6

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By allowing him to support Chechen child-murderers, your country is complicit in the murder of my co-ethnics in Beslan. It seems that your Finnish freedom of speech needs to be paid for with the blood of Ossetian and Armenian children. So yes, by all means keep interfering with our politics in the US so that we make an issue of your country's " private sector" support for terrorism -- or your words, "some guy who tried to help the Chechens." Sorry, this support is ongoing, and until it stops, your country is providing a law-free context enabling murder. I told you, interference in my country's politics just invites me to bring out your country's dirty laundry, so you will find yourself having to write longer and longer defences of Finland. You challenged me to take issue, so here you go, deal with it.

Other than this he spent the thread crying about fake news and insulting McCain and trying to change the subject...

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And the news is what exactly? That the Russian have spooks and have been trying to establish links with US politicians? Read the WSJ on this to get what the real scandal is ... it is our spooks spying on our own citizens without court authorization.

Because there is nothing wrong with Russia making a spy out of high ranking US government members?

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I do not care. It is McCain saying it, and it does not matter at that level. Given the level of odium and outright evil he represents, I would rather put up with White House dysfunction than do something that is obviously in his interest.

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Look, when it comes to McCain, he is fair game absolutely for all manner of speech acts, full stop. It is called the first amendment. Bringing him in post will invite this sort of attack. If you do not like it, simply do not invoke the s-head, or block me.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on February 16, 2017, 05:32:13 am
In today's issue of US citizens don't know what the word "democracy" means:
(https://i.redd.it/35ynmups04gy.png)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: dpareja on February 16, 2017, 10:51:48 am
I was once confused by the whole "democracy"-"republic" thing, but then I read something that cleared it up:

The distinction these people are pointing out is the one that existed in the late 18th century (ie when the US Constitution was written).

Back then, "democracy" meant "direct democracy," where the people vote on laws themselves. "Republic" meant "representative democracy," where the people elect representatives to vote on laws on their behalf. So back then, they were contrasting terms.

Now, of course, they're not, and "republic" contrasts with "monarchy," with "democracy" being on a different scale entirely.

But that doesn't stop people from either ignorantly or disingenuously using the old definitions without being clear about it.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on February 17, 2017, 03:09:30 pm
Not the net, this is oldschool. Oldschool beliefs as well:
(https://i.redditmedia.com/-rd-0OFtcU280HL_U6CKOzTmu5Un95mXhS6UdYVN3FE.jpg?w=531&s=ac82bff2847348c5ebc658037d03c7e2)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Murdin on February 19, 2017, 12:49:05 am
Not exactly the kind of content that is typically posted in this thread, but I think it's always interesting to see what kind of rhetorical loops people will go through to justify, at least to themselves and each other... well, all those obviously "crazy" reactionary beliefs that typically land here. I'm not supposed to be on these forums anymore, but I stumbled upon that blog by accident while searching for "chemtrails can melt steel beams" jokes, found a few things that tickled my mind, and had no idea where else to post them.

Quote from: http://notafraid-ofvirginiawoolf.tumblr.com/post/157247075800/the-point-is-not-trump-but-the-fact-that-though from Angelo M. Codevilla
The point is not Trump, but the fact that though the ruling class pushed Western Civilization aside, it did not replace it with any cultural hegemony in the Gramscian-Machiavellian sense. Rather, by pushing P.C. defined as inflicting indignities, the progressives destroyed the legitimacy of any and all authority, foremost their own…
What is to be done with a political system in which no one any longer believes? This is a revolutionary question because America’s ruling class largely destroyed, along with its own credibility, the respect for truth, and the culture of restraint that had made the American people unique stewards of freedom and prosperity. Willful masses alienated from civilization turn all too naturally to revolutions’ natural leaders. Donald Trump only foreshadows the implacable men who, Abraham Lincoln warned, belong to the “family of the lion and the tribe of the eagle.”

In short, the P.C. “changes in law and public norms” (to quote Galston again) that the ruling class imposed on the rest of America, rather than having “gradually brought about changes in private attitudes across partisan and ideological lines” as the ruling class imagined (and as Gramsci would have approved) have set off a revolution—of which we can be sure only that it won’t be pretty.

In short, people should rally behind a strongman to oppose social change and save society from its "progressive elites"... because these elites lost their legitimacy by forcing social change upon the people, which left a power vacuum that could be used by a strongman to take power. Since revolution is supposed to be ugly, any crime or injustice perpetrated by the new regime should be regarded as morally justified by the exceptional circumstances, a necessity to prevent a crumbling society from spiraling into an ugly free-for-all. Or, even shorter still: right-wing authoritarianism is justified because it is unavoidable, and unavoidable because it is justified. Did I get it right?

Still, I have to give that to them. If only my degenerate leftist mind could truly embrace the refinement, nay, the majesty of this statement, if only I could grasp and accept its full implications, all of them, no matter how circular or myopic or hypocritical or contradictory they are... then all of those beliefs that I've previously described as "crazy" would become as natural as two plus two making five:

Quote from: http://notafraid-ofvirginiawoolf.tumblr.com/post/157168793455/the-ordinary-man-has-always-been-sane-because-the from G.K. Chesterton
The ordinary man has always been sane because the ordinary man has always been a mystic. He has permitted the twilight. He has always had one foot in earth and the other in fairyland. He has always left himself free to doubt his gods; but (unlike the agnostic of today) free also to believe in them. He has always cared more for truth than for consistency. If he saw two truths that seemed to contradict each other, he would take the two truths and the contradiction along with them.

Okay, let's drop the sarcasm. I have a particular fascination with the ambiguous and counter-intuitive. Subverted dichotomies, false equivalences, hidden complexities, paradoxical dualities, opposition to tribal thinking, the inherent subjectivity in the study of thought processes, the blending of personal qualities and social descriptors that are supposed to be antithetical... all those things that seem to fly in the face of the our tendency to pursue comprehension through categorization and compartmentalization. As such, being a "mystic" of sorts, not only do I find this statement incredibly insidious in its anti-intellectualism, it feels almost like a personal insult. The gaps and overlaps that can be found between seemingly contradictory notions should be a motive for intense reflection, for a deeper exploration of those twilit areas of conventional thought. Not a lame excuse for intellectual abdication and the unquestioning embrace of the arbitrary. A seeming contradiction is likely to contain more information than the two initial "facts" ; it should be the focus of attention, not just "taken along" as an afterthought.

Incidentally, the blog is basically what you would expect from a typical twenty-something tumblrina, for the most part. Reblogging posts relevant to her fandoms, asking for people to ask her questions then answering to them, the occasional comment about her private life, you name it. The one major difference is that the good intentions, the social awareness, the tinge of genuine compassion that can be found even among the most frothing SJW... those things are completely absent here. In their place are lots and lots of old-timey, religious and fascist right-wing populist ~aesthetics~. So much for letting the selfish, dogmatic and bigoted Baby Boomer generation die off.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Sigmaleph on February 19, 2017, 08:21:01 pm
Not exactly the kind of content that is typically posted in this thread, but I think it's always interesting to see what kind of rhetorical loops people will go through to justify, at least to themselves and each other... well, all those obviously "crazy" reactionary beliefs that typically land here. I'm not supposed to be on these forums anymore, but I stumbled upon that blog by accident while searching for "chemtrails can melt steel beams" jokes, found a few things that tickled my mind, and had no idea where else to post them.

Quote from: http://notafraid-ofvirginiawoolf.tumblr.com/post/157247075800/the-point-is-not-trump-but-the-fact-that-though from Angelo M. Codevilla
The point is not Trump, but the fact that though the ruling class pushed Western Civilization aside, it did not replace it with any cultural hegemony in the Gramscian-Machiavellian sense. Rather, by pushing P.C. defined as inflicting indignities, the progressives destroyed the legitimacy of any and all authority, foremost their own…
What is to be done with a political system in which no one any longer believes? This is a revolutionary question because America’s ruling class largely destroyed, along with its own credibility, the respect for truth, and the culture of restraint that had made the American people unique stewards of freedom and prosperity. Willful masses alienated from civilization turn all too naturally to revolutions’ natural leaders. Donald Trump only foreshadows the implacable men who, Abraham Lincoln warned, belong to the “family of the lion and the tribe of the eagle.”

In short, the P.C. “changes in law and public norms” (to quote Galston again) that the ruling class imposed on the rest of America, rather than having “gradually brought about changes in private attitudes across partisan and ideological lines” as the ruling class imagined (and as Gramsci would have approved) have set off a revolution—of which we can be sure only that it won’t be pretty.

In short, people should rally behind a strongman to oppose social change and save society from its "progressive elites"... because these elites lost their legitimacy by forcing social change upon the people, which left a power vacuum that could be used by a strongman to take power. Since revolution is supposed to be ugly, any crime or injustice perpetrated by the new regime should be regarded as morally justified by the exceptional circumstances, a necessity to prevent a crumbling society from spiraling into an ugly free-for-all. Or, even shorter still: right-wing authoritarianism is justified because it is unavoidable, and unavoidable because it is justified. Did I get it right?

I think you're reading things into it that aren't there?

As far I can tell the quote is about inevitability but not justification. The belief that strongmen will happen but no endorsement of that. Rather the opposite, I think.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Murdin on February 20, 2017, 07:30:54 am
I think you're reading things into it that aren't there?

As far I can tell the quote is about inevitability but not justification. The belief that strongmen will happen but no endorsement of that. Rather the opposite, I think.

Yeah, you're right. Just did a bit more research, and it appears that Codevilla isn't exactly a Trump supporter or apologist. Just a fatalistic, out-of-touch ultra-conservative who thinks the republic was screwed either way, because the masses will turn to authoritarianism rather than accept the elite's affronts to the natural order of things. What misled me was his contribution to the Claremont Institute, which tends towards apology (Flight 93 election), as well as the imagery of an ineluctable popular mass uprising against the elites which ironically reminds me of Marx. Something should also be said about his longing for an imaginary past where America truly lived up to her ideals, which fits right into Trump's MAGA rhetoric.

Regardless, the blogger herself was clearly using this quote as a justification for her political opinions. This was actually my main point: anyone can cherry-pick some intelligent-sounding pieces of rhetoric in support of their beliefs, whichever they are. In the Internet age, you will usually be able to find some decently-written essay to quote as a support ; even if you don't, you can always write and publish your own. For that matter, I'm not certain that the second quote captures the entirety of Chesterton's views on the subject matter. I don't really care, though, since he himself was so eager to trivialize the thoughts of other authors and philosophers.

It doesn't excuse the fact that I did overreach by attributing the Trumpism to the quote itself rather than the context of its use. Sorry. I'm not in the best mental state right now, and it was probably a mistake for me to come back here just to rant about someone being wrong on the Internet.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: RavynousHunter on February 20, 2017, 08:54:24 am
Ey, that shit happens, homie.  Least you didn't pull a Paragon and double down, diggin yourself straight into orbit.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on February 20, 2017, 01:29:06 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VjfKxlO-QA

Too many black people!?! White genocide!! Erasure of proud European history!! REEEEEEE!!!!!

...

...Seriously though, I don't really see a reason to cry over this. There were people of non-European descent involved in the war, at this point he (and the many other idiots on the net) are crying because the percentage of non-whites is wrong. ...Which among the lesser historical inaccuracies in the game and this "40% of British soldiers seem to be black" would only be true if the multiplayer classes were claimed to be an exact representation of the ethnicities in the army. Instead it could just be that the game focuses on specific units and people. Also, complaining because this is a game (one of very few) where you "have to" play a black person is just yet another example of how some people only realize how important representation is when they themselves suffer from it. I don't remember people complaining that they couldn't play a black transwoman in Battlefield 3 for example.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on February 20, 2017, 05:47:37 pm
Isn't this an alternate history game anyway? They're whinging about "historical inaccuracy" in a game whose entire premise is a historical inaccuracy, lol.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Lana Reverse on February 20, 2017, 05:54:35 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VjfKxlO-QA

Too many black people!?! White genocide!! Erasure of proud European history!! REEEEEEE!!!!!

...

...Seriously though, I don't really see a reason to cry over this. There were people of non-European descent involved in the war, at this point he (and the many other idiots on the net) are crying because the percentage of non-whites is wrong. ...Which among the lesser historical inaccuracies in the game and this "40% of British soldiers seem to be black" would only be true if the multiplayer classes were claimed to be an exact representation of the ethnicities in the army. Instead it could just be that the game focuses on specific units and people. Also, complaining because this is a game (one of very few) where you "have to" play a black person is just yet another example of how some people only realize how important representation is when they themselves suffer from it. I don't remember people complaining that they couldn't play a black transwoman in Battlefield 3 for example.

Gotta say, it wasn't as bad as I feared from the clickbait title.

I don't see much of a problem with diversifying WWI armies. The token black German exempted, it doesn't strain credulity for me (though tbf, I've never been a history buff). It may not be historically accurate, but it's hardly immersion-breaking.

I also disagree with his argument that DICE has an obligation to accurately portray the ethnic makeup of WWI armies. Were they using historical figures, I'd agree with him. Were they billing the game as historically accurate, I'd also agree with him. But AFAIK, all the playable characters were created for the game, and it makes no pretenses of being a documentary.

Not to mention how he contradicts himself. Right on the heels of his claim that it's an insult to the memory of those who fought and died, he says people shouldn't learn history from pop culture. So... which is it? Does DICE have a moral obligation towards accuracy, or should people be expected to find the truth for themselves?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: davedan on February 20, 2017, 06:07:57 pm
There were afro-germans fighting in WWI - Most of the major players, the UK, France and Germany had black Soldiers. It was the rather unsurprising result of the colonialism that helped trigger the war in the first place.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Lana Reverse on February 20, 2017, 09:01:35 pm
There were afro-germans fighting in WWI - Most of the major players, the UK, France and Germany had black Soldiers. It was the rather unsurprising result of the colonialism that helped trigger the war in the first place.

How many Afro-Germans fought in Europe, though? Considering the Allied blockade of the Central Powers, I don't think they could bring in more than a handful.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: davedan on February 20, 2017, 09:20:54 pm
Even if it were only a handful that shouldn't strain the credulity of the token afro-german, should it? The reality is that there were afro-germans fighting in Europe in WWI..

Would your credulity be strained by a character that was a black samurai? Was it strained when Tom Cruise was the 'last Samurai' ? Would it surprise you to know that there was a black 'samurai'?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Lana Reverse on February 20, 2017, 10:02:12 pm
Even if it were only a handful that shouldn't strain the credulity of the token afro-german, should it? The reality is that there were afro-germans fighting in Europe in WWI..

Would your credulity be strained by a character that was a black samurai? Was it strained when Tom Cruise was the 'last Samurai' ? Would it surprise you to know that there was a black 'samurai'?

Wait, there was?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Art Vandelay on February 20, 2017, 10:08:23 pm
Well, yeah. Haven't you ever heard of Jerome Gerapusoda?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on February 20, 2017, 10:11:39 pm
Even if it were only a handful that shouldn't strain the credulity of the token afro-german, should it? The reality is that there were afro-germans fighting in Europe in WWI..

Would your credulity be strained by a character that was a black samurai? Was it strained when Tom Cruise was the 'last Samurai' ? Would it surprise you to know that there was a black 'samurai'?

Wait, there was?
Yup. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasuke)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Lana Reverse on February 20, 2017, 10:59:14 pm
Even if it were only a handful that shouldn't strain the credulity of the token afro-german, should it? The reality is that there were afro-germans fighting in Europe in WWI..

Would your credulity be strained by a character that was a black samurai? Was it strained when Tom Cruise was the 'last Samurai' ? Would it surprise you to know that there was a black 'samurai'?

Wait, there was?
Yup. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasuke)

Wow. Guess truth really is stranger than fiction.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on February 21, 2017, 12:20:03 am
There were also black vikings. ...And at least one native American woman was brought back to Europe by vikings because her descendants still live in Norway.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Zygarde on February 21, 2017, 01:33:20 am
I'll let my favorite Mark Twain quite summarize this "Truth Is Stranger than Fiction, But It Is Because Fiction Is Obliged to Stick to Possibilities; Truth Isn’t"
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: The_Queen on February 21, 2017, 07:53:52 am
We seem to all be hopping on this tangent that Lana "I'm as sharp as a pillow" Reverse wants us to go down... Now, Lana, what were you saying about black people being used in vidya games?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on February 21, 2017, 08:30:28 am
Also if having the exact historical proportions of people from specific ethnic groups is important does this mean you also oppose whitewashing or is it only a problem if there aren't enough white people?

Like did you protest the latest Potter film because it showed a pretty white Harlem?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Lana Reverse on February 21, 2017, 09:51:27 am
Also if having the exact historical proportions of people from specific ethnic groups is important does this mean you also oppose whitewashing or is it only a problem if there aren't enough white people?

Like did you protest the latest Potter film because it showed a pretty white Harlem?

I explicitly said that it wasn't.

I don't see much of a problem with diversifying WWI armies. The token black German exempted, it doesn't strain credulity for me (though tbf, I've never been a history buff). It may not be historically accurate, but it's hardly immersion-breaking.

I also disagree with his argument that DICE has an obligation to accurately portray the ethnic makeup of WWI armies. Were they using historical figures, I'd agree with him. Were they billing the game as historically accurate, I'd also agree with him. But AFAIK, all the playable characters were created for the game, and it makes no pretenses of being a documentary.

If you want to criticize me, fine, go ahead. But please don't make things up.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: davedan on February 21, 2017, 04:21:31 pm
Also if having the exact historical proportions of people from specific ethnic groups is important does this mean you also oppose whitewashing or is it only a problem if there aren't enough white people?

Like did you protest the latest Potter film because it showed a pretty white Harlem?

I explicitly said that it wasn't.

I don't see much of a problem with diversifying WWI armies. The token black German exempted, it doesn't strain credulity for me (though tbf, I've never been a history buff). It may not be historically accurate, but it's hardly immersion-breaking.

I also disagree with his argument that DICE has an obligation to accurately portray the ethnic makeup of WWI armies. Were they using historical figures, I'd agree with him. Were they billing the game as historically accurate, I'd also agree with him. But AFAIK, all the playable characters were created for the game, and it makes no pretenses of being a documentary.

If you want to criticize me, fine, go ahead. But please don't make things up.

No you said you don't have much of a problem which means you have some problem. However you imply that if it were 'immersion-breaking' then you would have a problem. Personally it is immersion breaking to me that none of the playable characters are squirrels. Like fuck! we were there man.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: The_Queen on February 21, 2017, 04:28:53 pm
Also if having the exact historical proportions of people from specific ethnic groups is important does this mean you also oppose whitewashing or is it only a problem if there aren't enough white people?

Like did you protest the latest Potter film because it showed a pretty white Harlem?

I explicitly said that it wasn't.

I don't see much of a problem with diversifying WWI armies. The token black German exempted, it doesn't strain credulity for me (though tbf, I've never been a history buff). It may not be historically accurate, but it's hardly immersion-breaking.

I also disagree with his argument that DICE has an obligation to accurately portray the ethnic makeup of WWI armies. Were they using historical figures, I'd agree with him. Were they billing the game as historically accurate, I'd also agree with him. But AFAIK, all the playable characters were created for the game, and it makes no pretenses of being a documentary.

If you want to criticize me, fine, go ahead. But please don't make things up.

No you said you don't have much of a problem which means you have some problem. However you imply that if it were 'immersion-breaking' then you would have a problem. Personally it is immersion breaking to me that none of the playable characters are squirrels. Like fuck! we were there man.

We lost plenty of good squirrels that day.  :(
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: davedan on February 21, 2017, 04:33:21 pm
Also if having the exact historical proportions of people from specific ethnic groups is important does this mean you also oppose whitewashing or is it only a problem if there aren't enough white people?

Like did you protest the latest Potter film because it showed a pretty white Harlem?

I explicitly said that it wasn't.

I don't see much of a problem with diversifying WWI armies. The token black German exempted, it doesn't strain credulity for me (though tbf, I've never been a history buff). It may not be historically accurate, but it's hardly immersion-breaking.

I also disagree with his argument that DICE has an obligation to accurately portray the ethnic makeup of WWI armies. Were they using historical figures, I'd agree with him. Were they billing the game as historically accurate, I'd also agree with him. But AFAIK, all the playable characters were created for the game, and it makes no pretenses of being a documentary.

If you want to criticize me, fine, go ahead. But please don't make things up.

No you said you don't have much of a problem which means you have some problem. However you imply that if it were 'immersion-breaking' then you would have a problem. Personally it is immersion breaking to me that none of the playable characters are squirrels. Like fuck! we were there man.

We lost plenty of good squirrels that day.  :(

Never Forget
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on February 22, 2017, 02:26:25 am
Also if having the exact historical proportions of people from specific ethnic groups is important does this mean you also oppose whitewashing or is it only a problem if there aren't enough white people?

Like did you protest the latest Potter film because it showed a pretty white Harlem?

I explicitly said that it wasn't.

I don't see much of a problem with diversifying WWI armies. The token black German exempted, it doesn't strain credulity for me (though tbf, I've never been a history buff). It may not be historically accurate, but it's hardly immersion-breaking.

I also disagree with his argument that DICE has an obligation to accurately portray the ethnic makeup of WWI armies. Were they using historical figures, I'd agree with him. Were they billing the game as historically accurate, I'd also agree with him. But AFAIK, all the playable characters were created for the game, and it makes no pretenses of being a documentary.

If you want to criticize me, fine, go ahead. But please don't make things up.

No you said you don't have much of a problem which means you have some problem. However you imply that if it were 'immersion-breaking' then you would have a problem. Personally it is immersion breaking to me that none of the playable characters are squirrels. Like fuck! we were there man.

We lost plenty of good squirrels that day.  :(

Never Forget

Why you forget the doggos? They had some good doggos who were strong enough to pull a Maxim gun on the battlefield and so they were given that task. So many of them died in the war that the breed went extinct.

...They were good doggos.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: dpareja on February 22, 2017, 02:44:58 am
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But the over the top reactions here, push independents and others who come into contact with your opinions into his camp out of pure self defence

I'm a far-right conservative who wants Bill Pryor on the Supreme Court, the repeal of the Seventeenth Amendment, universal school choice, and the abolition of corporate income taxes. If my anti-Trump attitudes push you away in any direction, it should probably be toward the Left.

The second person left the GOP (including a minor position with the Minnesota party) over Trump's candidacy, and said he wished Evan McMullin would campaign in Minnesota.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on February 22, 2017, 03:17:24 am
Question: what kind of person looks at the anti-Trump camp and then decides that the pro-Trump camp is less extreme?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Art Vandelay on February 22, 2017, 04:40:58 am
The pro-Trump guys may be extreme, but the anti-Trump folks are by far the most tubular.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on February 22, 2017, 05:18:56 am
The pro-Trump guys may be extreme, but the anti-Trump folks are by far the most tubular.

Tubular

synonyms:

cylindrical
tube-like
pipe-like
tubiform

...


...


Let's try the wiktionary instead:

Shaped like a tube.

Of or pertaining to a tube.
Consisting of tubes.
(slang, dated) Cool, awesome.

...Are you saying that the anti-Trump people are awesome or shaped like tubes? Because this message isn't clear to me.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: RavynousHunter on February 22, 2017, 08:49:53 am
Old 80s slang for cool, as far as I'm aware.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Art Vandelay on February 22, 2017, 06:53:58 pm
Aye. Because "extreme" was also 80's/90's slang for awesome. "On fleek" and "I can't even" weren't always what all the cool kids were saying.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on February 25, 2017, 09:54:16 pm
Spotted in the Sydney Morning Herald's comment section. (http://www.smh.com.au/comment/insultmachines-like-milo-yiannopolous-havent-lost-free-speech-just-their-bully-pulpit-20170223-gujlcp.html)

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KellyMelbourne,Feb 25 2017 at 10:18am
Yep - and perhaps that should tell you how the majority are feeling. Wake up!! And it's not "hate" its political correctness gone made that we're fed up with. Time to start governing what people want rather than governing to people's "feelings".
BanjoEden,Feb 25 2017 at 12:29pm
Kelly, your statement doesn't make logical sense. You begin with a reference to how the 'majority' are 'feeling' and you end with a dismissal of 'feeling'.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on February 26, 2017, 04:40:58 am
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So....an AR-15 in the hands of police= keeping one safe, yet an AR-15 in the hands of a law abiding citizen=felony?

...Maybe? If the laws say that having a
(click to show/hide)
AR-15 is a felony
(click to show/hide)
then that's the way it is.
(click to show/hide)

"Why can army have nukes but if law abiding citizen breaks the law and makes his own nuke then suddenly he is a criminal? Me no understand!"

Aside from the fact that "Mr. Random US citizen commenting on a 3 years old youtube video" is mostly wrong on his statement I still don't get why it's such a big deal that the police and military are allowed to use weapons and tools that are restricted or forbidden from civilians.


But this was yet another comment from people who complained about a local police station getting new guns and equipment to replace the Vietnam war era military surplus stuff they had been using for decades... Or as one person said it:

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pathetic that you rely on other people to keep you safe.  i carry a gun daily and have a better AR than that.  i keep me and my family safe.  police are their to enforce the laws. and i respect them for that

...Isn't keeping people safe also a part of enforcing the laws?

EDIT:

(http://i.imgur.com/AjRrrb5.jpg)

...Bad education or a troll?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: pyro on February 26, 2017, 04:29:30 pm
Troll. If she was serious she'd be calling them Indians.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Skybison on March 08, 2017, 01:21:52 am
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End Times radio broadcaster and unhinged conspiracy theorist Rick Wiles dedicated his radio program yesterday to warning that a secretive pedophile ring is working to destroy President Trump before he can expose their murderous global network.

Wiles said that Trump is “besieged by a slithering cabal of seditious snakes” who are attempting to carry out a coup against against him at the behest of the “perpetual war and pedophilia party that has ruled America since they assassinated John F. Kennedy in 1963.”

Wiles said that if Russia was responsible for leaking internal Clinton campaign emails, “then they deserve the highest citizenship award that this country can give anybody because they exposed the most vile, disgusting corruption I’ve seen in my lifetime.”

“It’s about pedophilia,” Wiles said:

They’re fighting like cornered animals to prevent their pedophile network from being exposed. … It’s about the darkest, most disgusting, vilest corruption you can imagine. And if the American people ever find out the truth about their politicians and their celebrities in Hollywood and their TV idols and their favorite TV anchormen and women, and they find out all these great famous people and they find out that they’re just child molesters—not only molesters, but child murderers, sacrificing children to Satan. When they find out, they will drag their bloody carcasses down Constitution Avenue in Washington, D.C., with meat hooks! They’ll have meat hooks in their carcasses.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: dpareja on March 08, 2017, 01:48:54 am
(https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder859/500x/34373859.jpg)
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on March 17, 2017, 02:12:59 am
https://www.reddit.com/r/olympia/comments/5zl2h8/14_years_ago_tomorrow_rachel_corrie_an_american/dezopae?context=2

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]14 years ago tomorrow, Rachel Corrie, an American peace activist from Olympia, Wa. was deliberately crushed to death by an Israeli bulldozer, while undertaking nonviolent direct action to protect the home of a Palestinian family from demolition. Please do not forget this remarkable young woman.

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Murdered is a strong word. I think the more accurate term would be suicide - albeit for a cause. She was a privileged foreigner, in a country and involving herself in a conflict where she had no right to be.

Murder implies intent to kill her. From all the evidence I've seen, she was trespassing and warned multiple times by the governing authority. She refused the orders, and they continued the job they were ordered to do.

In America if a cop (governing authority) tells you to stop running, or to drop your weapon, and you do not comply - lethal force will be used against you.

She was instructed by the governing authority to disband. She did not. They continued the task. She murdered herself if you take the emotion out of it and analyze the situation.

they did not stear the bulldozer towards her and chase her around the lot. They did not tie her down and run her over. Her death was not murder, it was by her own actions.

I'm not saying she shouldn't have done it, but let's keep it real and remember that she killed herself. Maybe she is a martyr, maybe not. I still think she could have made a larger difference if she had lived out her natural life. 

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What is so insane about it? If you disobey an authority figure, lethal harm can be used. I believe the bulldozer operators knowledge is a mute point. Even if he did know she was there, it was her decision to put herself in front of him. It's pretty cut and dry suicide, not murder.

What's insane to me is using the word "murder" when she was by all means, not murdered.

...And it just goes on and on.

Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: niam2023 on March 17, 2017, 05:03:22 am
They're literally felating the very concept of an authority figure, and saying authority gives you the right to murder as you see fit so long as some rule or guideline has been broken.

I'd make a SMT Law Faction joke, but those are starting to become far too apt.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Art Vandelay on March 17, 2017, 06:04:03 am
They're literally felating the very concept of an authority figure
What I want to know is how is that physically possible?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on March 17, 2017, 06:56:38 am
They're literally felating the very concept of an authority figure
What I want to know is how is that physically possible?

This is what happens when people use literally to mean figuratively.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Even Then on March 17, 2017, 07:13:33 am
I just like that this poster implies that law enforcers are emotionally stunted murderbots incapable of free will, contradicting their own fawning adoration for the fuckers and failing in textual expression in addition to failing in being a non-scumbag.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on March 17, 2017, 11:09:27 am
I have trouble finding the right words for the biggest issue I have with people, like the one I quoted:

On one hand they love talking about how much they love FREEEDOM and how free everyone in USA is, usually attributing all forms of oppression or limitations of freedom to the groups they hate (the list varies) ...But then they go on and declare that no one is allowed to question the president, or police or any other authority.


...And they don't see any conflict in this line of thinking.

Also, more than his support for police officers shooting at people who don't obey orders I am apalled at his claim that a person who dies as the result of not listening to authorities is the guilty part. Like they really claim that a protester who refused to move from the way of the bulldozer is the one to blame but the person who drove a bulldozer over them is free from any blame because they are simply following orders or otherwise doing what the law requires.

I hate bringing up the Hitler card as much as the next person* but this kind of thinking does lead to "if the government orders the killing of [insert group of people] then it is legal and perfectly ok" incidents. I mean maybe this person would suddenly draw the line there and refuse to support a Holocaust but if he is consistent with his logic then he would be ok with it as long as it is done "legally."


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Because most Europe is anti gun, has vastly less rights than the USA, and most European nations populations could fit in California.
Google any European country, check their population. Now check California's population, how far off are they?.
There's a reason USA stats are far higher than say the UK.
But if you adjust crime rate stats to population you'll notice these countries actually have more crime.
Take the UK. They have 64.1 million. The USA has 318.9 million.
318.9÷64.1=4.91 lets say 5 to round
The UK, for example, has a homicide rate of one person per 100,000 population per year, while the US has a rate of 4.7
But if we adjust the UK population to match USA we multiply 1/100,000 X 5
So if the UK had equal population as the US the would have 5/100,000 murder rate while the USA has 4.7/100,000.
Without rounding it would be 4.9/100,000 to the USA's 4.7/100,000
http://www.cityam.com/1414945475/hong-kong-murders-city-still-one-safest-places-earth


...What? ...How? ...Why? But he alread- [Askold's brain now refuses to work with this stupid world.]




*assuming that the next person thought that Hitler comparisons are really, really fun.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: pyro on March 17, 2017, 02:45:03 pm
A man uses mathematics like a drunkard uses a lamppost. For support. Not enlightenment.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Sigmaleph on March 17, 2017, 05:20:19 pm
well, maybe they think the number of murders in a country grows quadratically with population
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Askold on March 20, 2017, 08:24:10 am
"What's this?" Says the Alt-right member "Scots aren't like me? I am ashamed of being 3/54 Scottish-American.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PussyPass/comments/606t6r/scottish_altright_groups_are_holding_a_white/df4tfrh/


EDIT:

Can you guess how many people are defending this cop?

(http://i.imgur.com/roXQXyb.gif)

Way too many.

So many Strawman arguments too.

http://imgur.com/gallery/E5D1m
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: dpareja on March 22, 2017, 01:18:30 pm
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Planned Parenthood is NOTHING like the NRA.
You're right about this. The NRA protects a particular provision of the Bill of Rights, while Planned Parenthood is the most violent organization in the world today, which aims (among other things) to destroy fundamental human rights for an entire class of human beings it considers Lebensunwertes Leben. They are comparable in influence (both due and undue) but incomparable in policy.

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There's a valid historical discussion to be had (if one is inclined to have it) about the relationships between the Eugenics movement, Planned Parenthood, and the Nazi regime.

There's also a valid public policy discussion to be had (again, if one is so inclined) about whether or not Planned Parenthood should be the recipient of Federal tax dollars given that a) they do, as a point of fact, provide abortions; and b) there exist both legal and moral questions surrounding the concept of said Federal funds going to abortion providers.

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As for the subject of discussion, I love the liberal point of view:

"Everybody has the right to live! Yes, even violent, murdering Muslim terrorists....

Except for babies. Fuck them."

I promised I wouldn't get involved in abortion debates on the forum where that came from, but I'd just point out here that it seems the conservative point of view is that you have the right to life... right up until you pop out of your mother's womb.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: RavynousHunter on March 22, 2017, 01:39:47 pm
Yes, exactly, fuck babies.  At least terrorists have the good grace to just straight up fucking kill you.  Those little parasites torture you for several years and aren't even physically capable of killing you.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Skybison on March 25, 2017, 10:52:49 pm
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Question for any human females reading this, why don't you appreciate the guy who wants to kill you?
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Skybison on March 26, 2017, 12:06:57 am
Also apparently MGTOW are advocating pederasty now.

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[W]hen [women] start to diminish men will most likely find it viable to cross the x-y line in order to flock to cute-boys to settle down with, and marry whom don’t have the hypergamous instinct of biological females.

...cute-boys are more feminine than western females and always eager to please/available for sex to a partner.  They are more of a woman than any western whore and at the same time if you pursue them now there is no trouble, and also no ridiculous laws on what rape is(Which is everything nowadays) protecting them.

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I got this off We Hunted The mammoth and some of the posters there are saying "cute-boys really means pre-op transwomen.  Apparently there was a minor thing in that subculture of dicks that transwomen are way better then "real" women because

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their reasons were that *real* [cis-] girls are awful in every last way. “Real” girls menstruate, are selfish, stuck up, don’t care about their man, can… get… pregnant, don’t like sex, etc. And the guys — each of them — said they moved up to trans-girls (again, I am certain they used the slur) because trans-girls were more feminine, cared more about keeping their man happy, can’t get pregnant, L*O*V*E* sex, and they don’t bleed once a month.
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: niam2023 on March 26, 2017, 12:51:36 am
MGTOWs: We have overcome our transphobia through sheer misogyny!
Title: Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
Post by: Cloud3514 on March 26, 2017, 02:09:36 am
Question for any human females reading this, why don't you appreciate the guy who wants to kill you?

Side note, why do all of these idiots have the speech patterns of the Ferengi?