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Re: Things That Annoy You
« Reply #10380 on: March 07, 2017, 12:45:57 am »
"Peasant railgun" is not functional by Rules As Written!

Yes, you can pass items as a free action and this means that a group of people standing in a line can move a rock (or something) between them.

BUT there are few problems with "the last person who let's go of the item is launching a projectile at the speed of light!" claim...

When that last person let's go of the item it will simply drop to the ground at their feet. There is nothing in the rules about the item keeping momentum after it has been passed to you as a  free action after all. If the last person instead throws it then you just use the normal rules for thrown items.

But in theory if you can delay actions or use free actions when it isn't your turn you could make a fast delivery service. As long as you have people standing in a line.


...Which does mean that bucket lines in DnD are very effective at putting out fires.
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Re: Things That Annoy You
« Reply #10381 on: March 07, 2017, 01:53:04 am »
Reminds me of supply heroes in Heroes of Might and Magic. Place a line of them between your castle and your main hero, and all of those reinforcements can be on the front line on the same turn that they spawn, with the units themselves covering around four or five turns worth of distance in the process.

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Re: Things That Annoy You
« Reply #10382 on: March 07, 2017, 04:09:14 am »
If it was just rules lawyering then it would not be as annoying. Just an example of how the writers did not think of everything.

...Instead we get the sovereign citizen version where rules are misinterpreted on purpose or simply broken and claims that this is totally legit.
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Re: Things That Annoy You
« Reply #10383 on: March 14, 2017, 05:25:41 am »
Cinema audiences who laugh at things that are neither funny nor meant to be funny, including at times scenes which are meant to be emotional or harrowing.  Does this happen elsewhere or is where I live just got a higher number of morons and psychopaths?  This isn't just  handful of people either, it's literally entire audiences.

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« Reply #10384 on: March 14, 2017, 08:27:55 am »
Depends on the movie.  If the scene in question is overacted to hell and back, I can at least understand it.
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« Reply #10385 on: March 14, 2017, 11:00:17 am »
Depends on the movie.  If the scene in question is overacted to hell and back, I can at least understand it.

But I'm not talking about that, because that would be a scene that is funny.  As I said before, I'm talking about scenes that are not funny and neither are they meant to be funny (I say also "not meant meant to be funny" because people will still laugh at supposed comedy that fails horribly either due to being idiots or due to some kind of awkward pitty laughter, either way I understand in that situation why the audience is laughing).

I'm talking about well acted, well written, effective, non-comedy moments where the audience reaction is completely at odds with both the intended and resulting tone.  I'm not talking about "so bad it's hilarious" moments, obviously I get why people laugh at that.  Although I've never seen such a movie in the cinema.  I've watched plenty on Netflix though, thank God for Canon movies and for Steven Seagal.
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Re: Things That Annoy You
« Reply #10386 on: March 14, 2017, 11:09:23 am »
On the subject of movies, I'm also annoyed, as I'm sure everyone else is by now, by the "it's for the fans" excuse for your film/show being shit.  Just...fuck right off.

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« Reply #10387 on: March 14, 2017, 12:34:43 pm »
But I'm not talking about that, because that would be a scene that is funny.  As I said before, I'm talking about scenes that are not funny and neither are they meant to be funny (I say also "not meant meant to be funny" because people will still laugh at supposed comedy that fails horribly either due to being idiots or due to some kind of awkward pitty laughter, either way I understand in that situation why the audience is laughing).

I'm talking about well acted, well written, effective, non-comedy moments where the audience reaction is completely at odds with both the intended and resulting tone.  I'm not talking about "so bad it's hilarious" moments, obviously I get why people laugh at that.  Although I've never seen such a movie in the cinema.  I've watched plenty on Netflix though, thank God for Canon movies and for Steven Seagal.

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Re: Things That Annoy You
« Reply #10388 on: March 14, 2017, 01:04:50 pm »
But I'm not talking about that, because that would be a scene that is funny.  As I said before, I'm talking about scenes that are not funny and neither are they meant to be funny (I say also "not meant meant to be funny" because people will still laugh at supposed comedy that fails horribly either due to being idiots or due to some kind of awkward pitty laughter, either way I understand in that situation why the audience is laughing).

I'm talking about well acted, well written, effective, non-comedy moments where the audience reaction is completely at odds with both the intended and resulting tone.  I'm not talking about "so bad it's hilarious" moments, obviously I get why people laugh at that.  Although I've never seen such a movie in the cinema.  I've watched plenty on Netflix though, thank God for Canon movies and for Steven Seagal.



So you're saying the scenes involving deep emotional anguish, misery, suffering and grief in Logan, for a recent example, can be subjectively funny?  I guess, if you're deeply broken inside at a fundamental level.  I mean do you not find people laughing at such things even the least bit...unusual? Isn't "inappropriate emotional responses" one of the defining characteristics of a sociopath? At the very least surely you can see why audiences laughing during such segments in such a film could be annoying?
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Re: Things That Annoy You
« Reply #10389 on: March 14, 2017, 03:24:42 pm »
Maybe it makes them uncomfortable and that's how they respond to it.  Hell, its how I deal with discomfort.  Course, they may just think the scenes YOU feel are powerful and emotional are trying too hard to the point of hilarity.  What is the height of drama for one is narm for another.  Course, if they were being loud and obnoxious, then that's a definite breach of theater etiquette.

Its kinda like how I find the songs on the radio about how this guy's girl left him to be irritating, whiny, and overall pathetic when you may well find them powerful and moving.
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« Reply #10390 on: March 18, 2017, 06:33:43 am »
No it's definitely not because they think the scene is hammy, you can tell.  Nor is it due to discomfort, again you can tell - I'm familiar with uncomfortable laughter and this isn't it. Also NI people don't get uncomfortable (except me but I'm only half Northern Irish lol).  I'm also not sure people are understanding I'm not talking about a few individuals I'm talking about a massive percentage of the audience, and it happens in almost every film. This is the same type of audience, btw, that talk and check their phones during movies and who expect my 66yr old, walking-stick using mother to get up out of her seat and make way for them to get to a seat instead of just sitting literally anywhere fucking else.  They then inevitably half way through the film expect her to get up again so they can go for a piss.

I can also tell no one is quite "getting" me here and it's impossible for me to explain it, I think you need  to experience what I'm talking about to understand.  Like the Matrix lol .  So I think I'll have to give up as I have no red pills.  Though that does answer my initial question; it is peculiar to where I live.

Maybe posting a picture of a typical, average, NI person will help?





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Re: Things That Annoy You
« Reply #10391 on: March 18, 2017, 06:37:00 am »
On a different note, coz I've given up trying to explain the last one, I "love" it when you get a multiplayer ban because the game crashed.  It's great being penalised by a developer for their own shitty programming.

I know it's probably very difficult to make a game differentiate between a crash and you just leaving, but surely bans should be handed out based on patterns of behavior, not after a single disconnect?  Seems like it'd be a lot fairer.

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« Reply #10392 on: March 18, 2017, 07:16:11 am »
On a different note, coz I've given up trying to explain the last one, I "love" it when you get a multiplayer ban because the game crashed.  It's great being penalised by a developer for their own shitty programming.

I know it's probably very difficult to make a game differentiate between a crash and you just leaving, but surely bans should be handed outbased on patterns of behavior, not after a single disconnect?  Seems like it'd be a lot fairer.

The ban thing is rather heavy-handed; especially when you could just decrement a "good player" rating, instead.

As far as the pattern matching, that would be extremely difficult.  Its all to do with defining proper heuristics, because you're trying to quantify to a machine exactly what behaviours even are in the first place, let alone how to tell good ones from the bad ones.  If memory serves, your software doesn't even know why a disconnection happened; after all, it isn't like you have a connection with which to send along a reason code to the server. In the eyes of Friend Computer, all disconnects are the same.
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Re: Things That Annoy You
« Reply #10393 on: March 18, 2017, 09:54:22 am »
On a different note, coz I've given up trying to explain the last one, I "love" it when you get a multiplayer ban because the game crashed.  It's great being penalised by a developer for their own shitty programming.

I know it's probably very difficult to make a game differentiate between a crash and you just leaving, but surely bans should be handed outbased on patterns of behavior, not after a single disconnect?  Seems like it'd be a lot fairer.

The ban thing is rather heavy-handed; especially when you could just decrement a "good player" rating, instead.

As far as the pattern matching, that would be extremely difficult.  Its all to do with defining proper heuristics, because you're trying to quantify to a machine exactly what behaviours even are in the first place, let alone how to tell good ones from the bad ones.  If memory serves, your software doesn't even know why a disconnection happened; after all, it isn't like you have a connection with which to send along a reason code to the server. In the eyes of Friend Computer, all disconnects are the same.

What about a certain number of disconnects within in a given amount of time? How many and in what period of time I don't know but there's got to be a better way than "one disconnect and BANNED!" even if it is only a temp ban it's still aggravating when it was the game's fault not yours.

I guess making stable games that don't crash is an alternative lol.  But I do appreciate how complicated modern games are and why you can't ever grantee it will never crash.

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Re: Things That Annoy You
« Reply #10394 on: March 18, 2017, 11:40:14 pm »
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