Communist Vietnam May Beat the United States to Legalizing Gay Marriage

[TheReasonator]

http://www.asianweek.com/2012/08/03/will-vietnam-legalize-gay-marriage/

The discussion won't take place until Spring 2013. Apparently gay weddings have already been happening, just without official recognition, and there's a gay pride parade in Hanoi on August 5th.

The article says it would be the first Asian country to legalize gay marriage, but it would also be the first communist country.

[kefkaownsall]

http://www.asianweek.com/2012/08/03/will-vietnam-legalize-gay-marriage/

The discussion won't take place until Spring 2013. Apparently gay weddings have already been happening, just without official recognition, and there's a gay pride parade in Hanoi on August 5th.

The article says it would be the first Asian country to legalize gay marriage, but it would also be the first communist country.

I think Nepal is also on their way and Japan and Israel have outside recogniion procedures

[MadCatTLX]

This will be used as evidence that "teh ghey" is an evil anti jesus commie plot to ruin 'merica.

[Veras]

I'm reminded of Jon Stewart's commentary when South Africa legalized gay marriage in 2005.

"Just to reiterate, America is now less progressive than South Africa."

[Meshakhad]

http://www.asianweek.com/2012/08/03/will-vietnam-legalize-gay-marriage/

The discussion won't take place until Spring 2013. Apparently gay weddings have already been happening, just without official recognition, and there's a gay pride parade in Hanoi on August 5th.

The article says it would be the first Asian country to legalize gay marriage, but it would also be the first communist country.

I think Nepal is also on their way and Japan and Israel have outside recogniion procedures

Yes, Israel recognizes gay marriages performed in other countries.

[ironbite]

.....FUCK ME!

[kefkaownsall]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Nepal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Japan
references
Waht happened with Nepal is similar to South Africa after gaining Democracy they went on this civil rights kick

[Bezron]

.....FUCK ME!

MARRY ME FIRST!

[armandtanzarian]

Vietnam is still arresting bloggers for dissension and sedition though.

So I dunno, 1 step forward, 10 steps back?

[largeham]

A) They're not communist.

B) The Soviet Union legalised gay marriage until Stalin banned it in the 1930s.

C) I don't like calling things inevitable, but if the trend continues gay marriage will eventually be accepted (almost) everywhere.

[TheReasonator]

A) They're not communist.

Their government is run by the Communist Party, therefore they are communist. Notwithstanding the inequality and market-oriented economic policies. Saying that makes them not communist is a no true scottsman fallacy.

B) The Soviet Union legalised gay marriage until Stalin banned it in the 1930s.

Source? Wikipedia says homosexuality was accepted but doesn't mention gay marriage. It also says that "homosexuality" was still a criminal offense in some soviet republics as part of a broader movement against "uncivilized" practices when the local culture traditionally approved of homosexuality.

[Fpqxz]

Perhaps this is Vietnam's way of thumbing their noses at Chinese domination.

Nonetheless, if Vietnam actually does legalize gay marriage, more power to them.

[Art Vandelay]

Their government is run by the Communist Party, therefore they are communist. Notwithstanding the inequality and market-oriented economic policies. Saying that makes them not communist is a no true scottsman fallacy.

By that logic I can call myself a pacifist, and it'll never be wrong no matter how many wars I start.

[TheReasonator]

Their government is run by the Communist Party, therefore they are communist. Notwithstanding the inequality and market-oriented economic policies. Saying that makes them not communist is a no true scottsman fallacy.

By that logic I can call myself a pacifist, and it'll never be wrong no matter how many wars I start.

What ever "communism" may have meant a long time ago society has come to a linguistic consensus that the word refers to the types of regimes like the Soviet Union, those ruled by a single Marxist-Leninist party.

"Communism" and "Social Democratic" used to be interchangeable terms, but after the Bolsheviks took dictatorial power and used the name "Communist" to refer to their party a split in Marxism occurred. The Social Democrats wanted to help institute changes through the Parliamentary system. The Communists believed a true socialist revolution could only happen if their vanguard party took power and steered society towards the desired changes.

Hypothetically I suppose you could have a semi-democratic Communist country if the Communist Party had open membership and at least somewhat competitive primaries, but it would be about as democratic as Iran, since the candidates you'd choose from would still be controlled by the party. However, historically Communist Parties have usually been difficult to get membership in in the countries where they have ruled.

[Mechtaur]

Popular consensus isn't a good way to decide if something is what it is called. By your logic, evolution isn't what science has shown, but what people think it is.

Seriously, you just said, "Even though this country does almost everything the opposite way of Communism, it still is Communist because people say so".