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They really don't love god, they fear him. All the platitudes and praises are because they figure their Dear Leader is watching.

I see what you did there.  "Dear Leader," eh?
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hey now, that's unfair.....to Kim Jong Il, who would only torture you until you're dead, not after.
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My mom waited until marriage to have sex, refused an abortion when she was finally pregnant with me even at the potential expense of her own leg (she was able to keep it, but it's not been right since) and she refused pain meds after her foot being turned UPSIDE DOWN just because she feared what could happen to me...

And I turned out with multiple disabilities. One brother has depression and anger issues, another has dyslexia, and the oldest has something akin to ADD. So what, pray tell, warranted our "burdening" my mother?

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I always thought I was being punished for something. Now I know what. Thanks for making me feel even less worth of life.

Please say you were being sacastic up there.
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So what, pray tell, warranted our "burdening" my mother?
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So all the women who had abortions and went on to have healthy children had God's permission to abort?

Not exactly,  these people believe their own propaganda so much that it makes it impossible for a woman who had a termination to have a healthy child afterwards.   

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Go back and read the Christ part of the bible, you fail at Christian.

"His disciples asked him, 'Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?'"

"'Neither this man nor his parents sinned,' said Jesus, 'but this happened so that the work of God might be displayed in his life.'"
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Also, somewhere in the Bible it basically says that those born with disabilities pretty much have a ticket to heaven already. I think it's in the New Testament, I don't know, I'll have to ask my mother.
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And what about people whose first-born was healthy, yet their second, third, fourth, etc. child has a disability? Or people whose first-born has a disability? Is god "punishing" them for the hell of it?

Seriously, fuck this guy. Dehumanizing people with disabilities by reducing them to a mode of vengeance is exactly the kind of thinking that leads to abuse, institutionalization, and forced sterilization. They're human beings, asshole -- not punishments.

I wanna see his explanation for the Duggars

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I always thought I was being punished for something. Now I know what. Thanks for making me feel even less worth of life.

Please say you were being sacastic up there.
Dont let the bastard get to you.


Mostly sarcastic considering it is something i was told while I was Christian. What this man says is hardly new being heard by someone like me. It's just the fact that someone is bold enough who isn't the WBC to say it. The truth part comes in at the very end of what I said. When you have enough people saying it you start believing it, if that makes sense.

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Also, somewhere in the Bible it basically says that those born with disabilities pretty much have a ticket to heaven already. I think it's in the New Testament, I don't know, I'll have to ask my mother.
Don’t think I’ve heard of that.

But now I am wondering what counts as a disability. How about just a touch of myopia and a mild speech disfluency?
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Mostly sarcastic considering it is something i was told while I was Christian. What this man says is hardly new being heard by someone like me. It's just the fact that someone is bold enough who isn't the WBC to say it. The truth part comes in at the very end of what I said. When you have enough people saying it you start believing it, if that makes sense.

I've heard people say similar things (albeit less blatantly than the asshole quoted in the OP) about the girl I aid for. The worst one was from my friend's new age fundie mom. Paraphrased: "Her condition was caused by her mother indulging in *insert negative emotion here* during the pregnancy. The universe responds to negativity!" No, bitch, it's caused by a genetic condition. Mystical, cosmic energy had nothing to do with it.

People are ignorant assholes. A person's worth comes from who they are, not their physical abilities.
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Also, somewhere in the Bible it basically says that those born with disabilities pretty much have a ticket to heaven already. I think it's in the New Testament, I don't know, I'll have to ask my mother.

I'm now envisioning a universe in which kind, caring, and terrifyingly compassionate Christians maim all babies in vivo to make sure that everyone gets to heaven no matter what they believe.
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Having been told 'how you are has to be punishment' more times than 'God is testing you and your family' kinda snowballed into one of the reasons for my clinical depression. My rational side says 'they don't know anything. They're ignorant. They don't know that science explains it perfectly. Some deity didn't do it. Fucked up genetics did' but we're not always rational creatures. And when you're a child you're even less so. So being told by adults who you trust that this (being handicapped) is punishment your rational side has no chance.

/sob story

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Also, somewhere in the Bible it basically says that those born with disabilities pretty much have a ticket to heaven already. I think it's in the New Testament, I don't know, I'll have to ask my mother.

I'm now envisioning a universe in which kind, caring, and terrifyingly compassionate Christians maim all babies in vivo to make sure that everyone gets to heaven no matter what they believe.
It is sometimes a relief that humans can easily fail to act on the logical consequences of their beliefs.
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