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Offline Osama bin Bambi

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Re: U.S. government secretly collecting data on millions of Verizon users
« Reply #30 on: June 11, 2013, 07:18:27 pm »
Quote from: ScrappyB on June 11, 2013, 06:30:29 pm
What gets me is all the character assassination levied at Snowden. Not just the traitor accusations, but the people saying he did it for glory or fame or because he's a narcissist or whatever. I don't give a flying fuck why he did it.

The guy who brought down the Nixon administration turned out to be an asshole who probably did it for petty revenge. The character of the whistleblower didn't make what Nixon and his cronies did OK, and it doesn't make this mass spying OK either.

Snowden himself has said that, unlike Bradley Manning and Julian Assange, he specifically hand-picked the information to make sure he could release it to the public without endangering anyone's lives. To me that shows a greater level of respect for his principles. I'm not saying that what Manning or Assange did was bad, but it's harder to attack Snowden for being "irresponsible."
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Re: U.S. government secretly collecting data on millions of Verizon users
« Reply #31 on: June 11, 2013, 07:49:16 pm »
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Re: U.S. government secretly collecting data on millions of Verizon users
« Reply #32 on: June 11, 2013, 07:52:03 pm »
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Re: U.S. government secretly collecting data on millions of Verizon users
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Re: U.S. government secretly collecting data on millions of Verizon users
« Reply #34 on: June 11, 2013, 08:33:07 pm »
Michael Moore and Glenn Beck have found common ground.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/10/glenn-beck-michael-moore-call-nsa-whistleblower-ed/

Quick, someone living on the coast run outside and see if the oceans are rising up and turning yellow.
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Re: U.S. government secretly collecting data on millions of Verizon users
« Reply #35 on: June 11, 2013, 08:37:21 pm »
Quote from: ScrappyB on June 11, 2013, 08:33:07 pm
Michael Moore and Glenn Beck have found common ground.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/10/glenn-beck-michael-moore-call-nsa-whistleblower-ed/

Quick, someone living on the coast run outside and see if the oceans are rising up and turning yellow.

No, but I saw a duck that looked like it had a red mohawk or something.
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Re: U.S. government secretly collecting data on millions of Verizon users
« Reply #36 on: June 11, 2013, 08:37:44 pm »
Quote from: ScrappyB on June 11, 2013, 06:30:29 pm
What gets me is all the character assassination levied at Snowden. Not just the traitor accusations, but the people saying he did it for glory or fame or because he's a narcissist or whatever. I don't give a flying fuck why he did it.
Or dragging his girlfriend through the mud.
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Re: U.S. government secretly collecting data on millions of Verizon users
« Reply #37 on: June 11, 2013, 08:38:36 pm »
Quote from: Rabbit of Caerbannog on June 11, 2013, 08:37:44 pm
Quote from: ScrappyB on June 11, 2013, 06:30:29 pm
What gets me is all the character assassination levied at Snowden. Not just the traitor accusations, but the people saying he did it for glory or fame or because he's a narcissist or whatever. I don't give a flying fuck why he did it.
Or dragging his girlfriend through the mud.

I believe he also had a child. Jesus fuck that kid is going to be bullied.
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Re: U.S. government secretly collecting data on millions of Verizon users
« Reply #38 on: June 11, 2013, 09:33:03 pm »
Quote from: ScrappyB on June 11, 2013, 08:33:07 pm
Michael Moore and Glenn Beck have found common ground.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/10/glenn-beck-michael-moore-call-nsa-whistleblower-ed/

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I dunno. Michael Moore is kinda the Glenn Beck of the left-wing.
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Re: U.S. government secretly collecting data on millions of Verizon users
« Reply #39 on: June 11, 2013, 09:44:24 pm »
Quote from: chitoryu12 on June 11, 2013, 09:33:03 pm
Quote from: ScrappyB on June 11, 2013, 08:33:07 pm
Michael Moore and Glenn Beck have found common ground.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/10/glenn-beck-michael-moore-call-nsa-whistleblower-ed/

Quick, someone living on the coast run outside and see if the oceans are rising up and turning yellow.

I dunno. Michael Moore is kinda the Glenn Beck of the left-wing.

Yay false equivilancy.
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Re: U.S. government secretly collecting data on millions of Verizon users
« Reply #40 on: June 11, 2013, 10:21:40 pm »
Quote from: QueenofHearts on June 11, 2013, 09:44:24 pm
Quote from: chitoryu12 on June 11, 2013, 09:33:03 pm
Quote from: ScrappyB on June 11, 2013, 08:33:07 pm
Michael Moore and Glenn Beck have found common ground.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/10/glenn-beck-michael-moore-call-nsa-whistleblower-ed/

Quick, someone living on the coast run outside and see if the oceans are rising up and turning yellow.

I dunno. Michael Moore is kinda the Glenn Beck of the left-wing.

Yay false equivilancy.

....I'm sorry, did you just try to accuse me of making a logical fallacy during a joke?
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Re: U.S. government secretly collecting data on millions of Verizon users
« Reply #41 on: June 11, 2013, 10:32:43 pm »
Sure why not [/saracasm]
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Re: U.S. government secretly collecting data on millions of Verizon users
« Reply #42 on: June 12, 2013, 05:28:29 am »
What's kind of got me rattled is how many people on the far right who I literally have no other agreement with feel the same way. Beck, Ron Paul, bunches of wingnuts at sites like Whirled Nuts Daily, Moonbattery and the Blaze...

It's the average people who have been duped by fearmongering about scary brown terrorists out to murder us in our sleep who are fine with giving up their rights for the illusion of security, apparently.
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Re: U.S. government secretly collecting data on millions of Verizon users
« Reply #43 on: June 12, 2013, 05:47:58 am »
Quote from: ScrappyB on June 12, 2013, 05:28:29 am
What's kind of got me rattled is how many people on the far right who I literally have no other agreement with feel the same way. Beck, Ron Paul, bunches of wingnuts at sites like Whirled Nuts Daily, Moonbattery and the Blaze...

It's the average people who have been duped by fearmongering about scary brown terrorists out to murder us in our sleep who are fine with giving up their rights for the illusion of security, apparently.

And of course, many people don't care because of their divisions. The far right forgets all about Bush starting the trend and uses this as an excuse to bash the left, while the far left denies that Obama has anything to do with it or even tries to paint it as a good thing.

Nobody's willing to work together to solve problems. Not when they can be fighting.
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Re: U.S. government secretly collecting data on millions of Verizon users
« Reply #44 on: June 12, 2013, 04:31:44 pm »
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