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Re: Next Gen Console Wars
« Reply #45 on: January 27, 2012, 06:17:16 pm »
You could adjust the 3D to levels that make you more comfortable. Including turning off the 3D effect entirely and playing in 2D, since the 3D effects are never essential to gameplay.

I already do that and I said as much.

I just don't think human eyes are altogether ready for 3D without the side effects of long term exposure. If they weren't ready more than a decade ago I don't see how they would be now. Some people are lucky, they can play for ages with 3D on.

It's an expensive novelty at the end of the day. I love when I'm actually playing a game in 3D on my 3DS, what I don't love is I am only getting 15 minutes of enjoyment out of it. Whereas I play 2D games for more than 12 hours with no issues.

Yeah, but the VB's problem was less "3D hurts your eyes" and more "You are staring at NOTHING BUT RED whenever you play."  That particular aspect of the problem, at least, is long gone.
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Re: Next Gen Console Wars
« Reply #46 on: January 27, 2012, 06:18:22 pm »
I hate 3D. It makes me sick and dizzy when I look at it for more than five minutes, which is probably a bad thing.
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Re: Next Gen Console Wars
« Reply #47 on: January 27, 2012, 08:29:35 pm »
Admittedly, it's not for everyone. That's why I think it was incredible foresight of Nintendo to include an option to turn the 3D off and simply use it as a more powerful DS. As nifty as 3D is, it would be hard to come up with a game that revolves around it, so you don't exactly lose anything for doing so.

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Re: Next Gen Console Wars
« Reply #48 on: January 27, 2012, 09:33:08 pm »
I don't really like 3D either, I get headaches after a while.

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Re: Next Gen Console Wars
« Reply #49 on: January 27, 2012, 10:56:07 pm »
I don't get the whole 3D craze either.

Of course, I can't actually percieve the effect (that tends to happen when one of your eyes is as good as useless), so that probably goes some way as to explain why.

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Re: Next Gen Console Wars
« Reply #50 on: January 28, 2012, 01:41:30 am »
3D truly is a silly fad.

As for graphics, people need to realize that better graphics don't necessarily equal a better game. Don't get me wrong, I do like it when games look good, but I think people get WAY too bogged down in the technical aspect of it, something which you really shouldn't notice too much when you play a game. I know I don't.

If you want proof of this, look no further than Minecraft. That game I realize is intended to look blocky, but the point still stands. Graphically speaking, the game looks like shit. It looks like something you could develop in the 90s. And yet, look at the player base: Millions of copies of Minecraft have been sold, because it's that great a game.

Actually, if there's one graphical improvement I'd like to see come to the Xbox, it's to fix the washed out, desaturated look that has become unfortunately associated with the system, at least in my eyes. I think Xbox, and I think every generic dime-a-dozen shooter game with gray, brown and muzzle-flash colors. It's boring, hard on the eyes, and completely unrealistic. I recall reading there being technical reasons why this was the case; something about realistic light reflection requiring either a shit-ton of rendering power, or the desaturated mess that everyone went with.

If you want to improve something graphics-wise with the Xbox's next generation, fix THAT. Oh, and coming out with a more original shooter might help a little bit too.
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Re: Next Gen Console Wars
« Reply #51 on: January 28, 2012, 01:46:13 am »
I like games that are actually beautiful to look at. Like Okami, which is one of the most mind-blowingly awesome games I have ever played. I really don't like looking at an endless sea of sepia - even if it's supposed to look realistic, it's not interesting.

That being said, Neverwinter Nights does not exactly have a great graphics engine (being ten years out of date and all), but it is still a great game simply because of its modding community.
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Re: Next Gen Console Wars
« Reply #52 on: January 28, 2012, 01:54:29 am »
Honestly, I don't know how adding some extra fucking color to their texture base would affect performance much, if at all.  Seriously, to a computer, processing brown takes as much power as processing pimp purple, its all stored in the same amount of data, using the same form of interpretation (RGBA: Red-Green-Blue-Alpha), with the exact same calculations.

Frankly, if some developer says that doing lighting with colors other than "shit stain brown" is too difficult...chances are, they're fucking lying.
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Re: Next Gen Console Wars
« Reply #53 on: January 28, 2012, 02:00:41 am »
The 3D craze is actually rather simple to explain.

When you look at a normal screen, you're essentially looking at a 2D object.  Even if the objects on the 2D object are three dimensional, it's still a 2D object.

3D adds depth.  3D objects actually look 3D.  It's almost like a holographic projection.

This is neat, it's not something that's really mainstream (and yes, I know it's getting into hipster territory).  It's gimmicky, sure, but I think people forget that gimmicks can be a good thing, and I think that the 3DS is a good thing.

Now, obviously, it isn't for everyone.  I'm one of those people that can stand 3D for extended periods of time (though not indefinitely) so it works out for me.

Then again, it's technically bad to be playing games for such long periods of time anyways.
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Re: Next Gen Console Wars
« Reply #54 on: January 28, 2012, 02:10:25 am »
Honestly, I don't know how adding some extra fucking color to their texture base would affect performance much, if at all.  Seriously, to a computer, processing brown takes as much power as processing pimp purple, its all stored in the same amount of data, using the same form of interpretation (RGBA: Red-Green-Blue-Alpha), with the exact same calculations.

Frankly, if some developer says that doing lighting with colors other than "shit stain brown" is too difficult...chances are, they're fucking lying.
Here's an article explaining it: http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/PhilippeRinguetteAngrignon/20090606/1708/Why_quotNextGen_Gamesquot_Went_Gray_Brown_And_Grey.php (unfortunately the pictures were hot-linked and you can't see them any more)

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Re: Next Gen Console Wars
« Reply #55 on: January 28, 2012, 03:40:49 am »
Huh...I stand corrected.  Well, at least they're actually working on it, and realize its a problem.  That's good, because this desaturated, brown shit's really starting to get old...
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Re: Next Gen Console Wars
« Reply #56 on: January 28, 2012, 05:37:26 am »
I also can't stand 3D. It died out in the early '90's for a damn good reason. The fact that it's back in vogue and seems likely to stay that way for a good decade or so just because Avatar looked pretty and used 3D really makes me weep for the rather lacking intelligence of the average consumer.

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Re: Next Gen Console Wars
« Reply #57 on: January 28, 2012, 01:49:58 pm »
It only ever really died out because people hated wearing those ridiculous glasses to do anything with it. Do you seriously want to sit around your living room wearing those things to watch 3D TV shows or movies? Chances are, no. And the glasses-less 3D used in the 3DS was originally designed for televisions, but turned out not to be practical because it only works when viewed from straight ahead--fine for something you hold in your hand, bad for something everyone in the room is supposed to be looking at.

And I get that the perception trick used to create the 3D images gives some people a problem. So does Nintendo--that's why the 3DS can be played in 2D. When you do that, you still have a handheld that's significantly better than the DS was.