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Re: Grover Norquist threatens Obama with Impeachment
« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2012, 06:02:45 pm »
What an idiot. There's not much else to say.

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Re: Grover Norquist threatens Obama with Impeachment
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2012, 06:11:55 pm »
Grover Norquist has caused more damage to this country than Obama has. If anyone's a traitor, he is.
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Re: Grover Norquist threatens Obama with Impeachment
« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2012, 09:29:49 pm »
Is it just me, or is "treason" one of those words that conservatives keep using that doesn't mean what they think it means?

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Re: Grover Norquist threatens Obama with Impeachment
« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2012, 10:08:43 pm »
Is it just me, or is "treason" one of those words that conservatives keep using that doesn't mean what they think it means?
We've used it a few times innappropriately.  It has to be very direct harm like giving our nuke codes to Iran

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Re: Grover Norquist threatens Obama with Impeachment
« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2012, 10:42:26 pm »
Is it just me, or is "treason" one of those words that conservatives keep using that doesn't mean what they think it means?
It seems like a lot of conservatives are incapable of using most political terms appropriately.
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Re: Grover Norquist threatens Obama with Impeachment
« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2012, 12:09:16 am »
Good luck with that. ::)
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Re: Grover Norquist threatens Obama with Impeachment
« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2012, 03:31:54 pm »
Is it just me, or is "treason" one of those words that conservatives keep using that doesn't mean what they think it means?
It's not just conservatives, pretty much everyone uses treason incorrectly. The current low level of political discourse has only increased it's improper usage.

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Re: Grover Norquist threatens Obama with Impeachment
« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2012, 08:30:19 pm »
Is it just me, or is "treason" one of those words that conservatives keep using that doesn't mean what they think it means?
It's not just conservatives, pretty much everyone uses treason incorrectly. The current low level of political discourse has only increased it's improper usage.

Technically, if the masses use a word one way consistently, doesn't that essentially add a definition to the word?

Or does that only apply to pronunciations of words, such as the case with often?
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Re: Grover Norquist threatens Obama with Impeachment
« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2012, 09:04:17 pm »
I honestly don't know. Words do have set definitions, but if enough people agree on an alternate meaning it can become a legit definition.

ETA: Regardless, I still think that the word is over used and used incorrectly.
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Re: Grover Norquist threatens Obama with Impeachment
« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2012, 09:17:16 pm »
Is it just me, or is "treason" one of those words that conservatives keep using that doesn't mean what they think it means?
It's not just conservatives, pretty much everyone uses treason incorrectly. The current low level of political discourse has only increased it's improper usage.

Technically, if the masses use a word one way consistently, doesn't that essentially add a definition to the word?

Or does that only apply to pronunciations of words, such as the case with often?
In general, yes. But it doesn't change what treason as a strictly defined legal term means.
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Re: Grover Norquist threatens Obama with Impeachment
« Reply #25 on: February 03, 2012, 12:49:12 am »
Yeah, this is bound to fail, but it pisses me off nonetheless. A lot.
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Re: Grover Norquist threatens Obama with Impeachment
« Reply #26 on: February 03, 2012, 09:57:48 am »
Is it just me, or is "treason" one of those words that conservatives keep using that doesn't mean what they think it means?
It's not just conservatives, pretty much everyone uses treason incorrectly. The current low level of political discourse has only increased it's improper usage.

Technically, if the masses use a word one way consistently, doesn't that essentially add a definition to the word?

Or does that only apply to pronunciations of words, such as the case with often?
Legal definitions are not subject to that sort of evolution. The legal definition for a crime requires the law defining that crime to changed to have any effect.

What constitutes treason does vary from state to state and from time period to time period. What some people call treason may in all truth qualify as treason under other jurisdictions. But unless that act consists “in levying War against [the United States], or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort,” it is not treason against the United States. No matter how many people say otherwise, this definition can only change with an amendment to the U.S. Constitution, for without that, the above is the full legal weight of the term.
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