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Making Arkansas Great Again
« on: February 04, 2017, 04:07:48 am »
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/arkansas-abortion-law-that-will-let-rapists-sue-victims-husbands-second-trimester-a7561066.html

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A pregnant woman's husband will have the power to stop her from having an abortion, even in cases of spousal rape, under a new law introduced in the US state of Arkansas. 

Most second trimester abortions will also be banned by Act 45 - the Unborn Child Protection From Dismemberment Abortion Act - which will make it possible for husbands to sue doctors who carry out abortions for civil damages, or get an injunction to block the termination.

The pro-life law, which was pushed through in just two months by the state's Republican government, prohibits all dilation and evacuation (D&E) procedures, in which the physician removes the foetus from the womb with surgical tools.

They are so pro-life that they have deemed that a rapist has more rights over a pregnant woman than the woman herself...

The article does point out that the other six states who tried to get similar laws failed as courts struck them down so I don't know if there is still a chance of that...
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Re: Making Arkansas Great Again
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2017, 08:18:02 am »
I'd not be surprised if it got struck down.  Not for any good reasons, mind, just that it's too useful a political boogeyman for them to ever actually do anything about it.
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« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2017, 04:35:35 am »
This reminds me of an interesting article I came across the other day.

http://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2017/1/27/14417866/abortion-survey-republican-men

Basically sort of like how most republicans and even NRA members actually support gun control but the GOP is fanatically against it, the majority of republican men are sort of pro-choice despite the party leadership being fanatically anti-choice.

59% oppose nominating a supreme court nominee based on him being anti-abortion.
51% oppose defunding planned parenthood.
46% think the government should protect women's right to abortion
55% want abortion services to be widely available and the experience supportive
56% want abortion to be affordable.
61% want women to be able to get abortions without being subjected to picketers.
93% think women should receive accurate unbiased information.

Now male republicans are also wildly misinformed about abortion but it's strange why the republican party is so fanatically out of step with their own voters on the issue.
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Re: Making Arkansas Great Again
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2017, 04:47:29 am »
...I can't find the video now, I think it was from Daily show, where a politician who is anti-abortion is asked why does he think women get abortions. He is actually surprised by the question, tries to answer and then admits that he hasn't actually thought about it. Ever.

Then why does he is he so adamantly against abortion?
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Re: Making Arkansas Great Again
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2017, 05:27:34 am »
...I can't find the video now, I think it was from Daily show, where a politician who is anti-abortion is asked why does he think women get abortions. He is actually surprised by the question, tries to answer and then admits that he hasn't actually thought about it. Ever.

Then why does he is he so adamantly against abortion?

Because the (actually pro-abortion) Bible says so!
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Re: Making Arkansas Great Again
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2017, 07:38:59 am »
This reminds me of an interesting article I came across the other day.

http://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2017/1/27/14417866/abortion-survey-republican-men

Basically sort of like how most republicans and even NRA members actually support gun control but the GOP is fanatically against it, the majority of republican men are sort of pro-choice despite the party leadership being fanatically anti-choice.

59% oppose nominating a supreme court nominee based on him being anti-abortion.
51% oppose defunding planned parenthood.
46% think the government should protect women's right to abortion
55% want abortion services to be widely available and the experience supportive
56% want abortion to be affordable.
61% want women to be able to get abortions without being subjected to picketers.
93% think women should receive accurate unbiased information.

Now male republicans are also wildly misinformed about abortion but it's strange why the republican party is so fanatically out of step with their own voters on the issue.

One, the name sounds scary; remember, the Republican party's primary tactic is fear.  Two, its a useful political bogeyman; its a sign things "ain't what they used to be" and that frightens old people and the mentally deficient.
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Re: Making Arkansas Great Again
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2017, 09:51:46 pm »
Now male republicans are also wildly misinformed about abortion but it's strange why the republican party is so fanatically out of step with their own voters on the issue.

I'd be interested to know how strongly those opinions on abortion are held. If they're only held tepidly, then it wouldn't be as major an issue for those voters and the Republicans can push their "party of tax cuts" lie (or some other such bullshit) to get their votes. Also, at a guess, I'd say it's also a matter of ideologues being more likely to run for office.
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