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Title: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on April 15, 2013, 12:21:37 am
In case you didn't hate this little fucker enough, he decided he was interested enough to visit the home (http://gothamist.com/2013/04/14/justin_bieber_visits_anne_frank_hou.php) of Holocaust victim Anne Frank. And in case you were worried about him conducting himself in a solemn and dignified manner, don't worry, he still managed to act like a total assclown and make it all about himself, signing the guestbook with this:

"Truly inspiring to be able to come here. Anne was a great girl. Hopefully she would have been a belieber."

The only thing that could make this worse would be incredibly douchey pictures of himself.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BHzQ1JsCcAAqz89.jpg)

Oh...
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Sleepy on April 15, 2013, 12:25:16 am
Because he just wasn't enough of an asshole already.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: ThunderWulf on April 15, 2013, 12:29:33 am
I read a comment earlier today that he apparently has a fucking swag coach.  I can't wait until this little douchenozzle's 15 minutes of fame dry up.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: dpareja on April 15, 2013, 12:32:21 am
Dear world,

We're sorry.

Sincerely,
Canada.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Barbarella on April 15, 2013, 12:37:35 am
He was tolerable when he was a cute little "new guy" with that mop haircut. I used to think he was an okay boy who was being hated on too much (even if I found him to be way overhyped). Now he's decided he's gonna be Mr. Swaggy Doucheguy & act all "ghetto" (and failing miserably). Now he's visiting Anne Frank's home, acts like a freak & thinks "It's all about him". Fame has really gone to his head!
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: nickiknack on April 15, 2013, 12:39:16 am
  I can't wait until this little douchenozzle's 15 minutes of fame dry up.

Welcome to the club, that being said this douche is just asking for an ass kicking.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Art Vandelay on April 15, 2013, 01:02:48 am
Man, this idiot has no clue whatsoever as to what's acceptable behavior for a normal person. None at all, all he knows is life as a big shot celebrity, constantly having his ego fellated and getting away with pretty much anything he wants. Well, he's 19 now, his days as a teenage heart throb are well and truly numbered. When his fame dies down for good, his life going to crash and burn like the Hindenburg were piloted by the Taliban. It almost makes you feel sorry for the little shithead.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Her3tiK on April 15, 2013, 01:06:54 am
Man, this idiot has no clue whatsoever as to what's acceptable behavior for a normal person. None at all, all he knows is life as a big shot celebrity, constantly having his ego fellated and getting away with pretty much anything he wants. Well, he's 19 now, his days as a teenage heart throb are well and truly numbered. When his fame dies down for good, his life going to crash and burn like the Hindenburg were piloted by the Taliban. It almost makes you feel sorry for the little shithead.
Hahahaha nope! Anyone who needs as much autotune as he does to hold down the main melody deserves to be remorselessly beaten.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 15, 2013, 01:19:12 am
I...  ...  ...  WHAT.  He defiled the home of Anne fucking Frank?!  One of the most important and influential Jewish people since fucking Abraham?

Godwin's Law be damned, Hitler would be proud of this boy.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: kefkaownsall on April 15, 2013, 01:24:52 am
It's actually amusing that he's having his breakdown into obscurity at this young an age.  Unfortunately for the rest of us we'll be hearing about him for a few years
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: ironbite on April 15, 2013, 02:59:45 am
Let's see...she would've been a grandma by this point...yeah she could've been a fan of his music.

Ironbite-though I seriously fucking DOUBT IT!
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Sylvana on April 15, 2013, 03:10:33 am
I cant wait until he burns out like Britney Spears did.
He is so close to being found in a gutter covered in his own vomit naked somewhere.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 15, 2013, 03:12:58 am
There is no need for Justin Bieber to remain alive. If he were to, say, be dropped into central Africa or a rainforest in Brazil the world would be a better place.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Meshakhad on April 15, 2013, 03:26:58 am
There was a time that I had hopes for this guy - hopes that he would mature and have a productive career.

Now, I hate him. Not for his music, but for the disrespect he has shown to Anne Frank.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 15, 2013, 03:27:30 am
Dear world,

We're sorry.

Sincerely,
Canada.


Dear Canada,

No, we're sorry.  We don't seem to understand how to handle child celebrities without turning them into god-awful prima-donnas who later crash into a life of self-destructive behavior.  We should learn our lesson from how Britain handled the Harry Potter kids.

Sincerely,
United States of America
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Flying Mint Bunny! on April 15, 2013, 05:47:21 am
He was tolerable when he was a cute little "new guy" with that mop haircut. I used to think he was an okay boy who was being hated on too much (even if I found him to be way overhyped). Now he's decided he's gonna be Mr. Swaggy Doucheguy & act all "ghetto" (and failing miserably). Now he's visiting Anne Frank's home, acts like a freak & thinks "It's all about him". Fame has really gone to his head!

I completely agree. While i've never been a fan of his, I always found all the OTT Bieber bashing ridiculous.

Now that he's believing his own press and acting like an arsehole all the time, i've been drawn over to the dark side of just wanting him gone.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: SpaceProg on April 15, 2013, 05:57:28 am
I read a comment earlier today that he apparently has a fucking swag coach.  I can't wait until this little douchenozzle's 15 minutes of fame dry up.
Time for me to sound old and out of touch.

What's a "Swag Coach"?   Urban Dictionary didn't really tell me anything.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Søren on April 15, 2013, 06:09:09 am
Basically SWAG is the new internet word for the "cool factor"

In the normal world, your swag factor is your douchey factor. Beiber has a swag coach, but from the picture of him in Frank's house, he has a douche couch.

Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 15, 2013, 06:22:54 am
You're only allowed to say you have swag if you took it at axe-point from a burning English church.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: chad sexington on April 15, 2013, 06:37:07 am
Or if you're wearing a black-and-white hooped sweater, cloth cap and eyemask.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Art Vandelay on April 15, 2013, 07:12:25 am
Or you're wearing a hat with corks dangling off the brim and aimlessly wandering about the Australian countryside.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Shane for Wax on April 15, 2013, 07:41:28 am
swag to me is merch you get at cons...
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 15, 2013, 08:03:26 am
Or you're wearing a hat with corks dangling off the brim and aimlessly wandering about the Australian countryside.

Though you do have to be shot at by law enforcement and ultimately suicide.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Art Vandelay on April 15, 2013, 08:25:17 am
Or you're wearing a hat with corks dangling off the brim and aimlessly wandering about the Australian countryside.

Though you do have to be shot at by law enforcement and ultimately suicide.

Or conscripted into the army only to have your legs blown off by a Turkish artillery shell.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Dakota Bob on April 15, 2013, 08:27:06 am
In case you didn't hate this little fucker enough, he decided he was interested enough to visit the home (http://gothamist.com/2013/04/14/justin_bieber_visits_anne_frank_hou.php) of Holocaust victim Anne Frank. And in case you were worried about him conducting himself in a solemn and dignified manner, don't worry, he still managed to act like a total assclown and make it all about himself, signing the guestbook with this:

"Truly inspiring to be able to come here. Anne was a great girl. Hopefully she would have been a belieber."

The only thing that could make this worse would be incredibly douchey pictures of himself.



Oh...

Oh shit he dun fucked up this time. Has he released any form of half-assed apology yet?
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 15, 2013, 08:33:11 am
Or you're wearing a hat with corks dangling off the brim and aimlessly wandering about the Australian countryside.

Though you do have to be shot at by law enforcement and ultimately suicide.

Or conscripted into the army only to have your legs blown off by a Turkish artillery shell.

But have the single best song ever written in this country* written about you.

*Your mileage may vary.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Art Vandelay on April 15, 2013, 08:37:31 am
Or you're wearing a hat with corks dangling off the brim and aimlessly wandering about the Australian countryside.

Though you do have to be shot at by law enforcement and ultimately suicide.

Or conscripted into the army only to have your legs blown off by a Turkish artillery shell.

But have the single best song ever written in this country* written about you.

*Your mileage may vary.

I suppose you could say it was all worth it in the end.

Though I would argue that I Was Only 19 is a slightly better song.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Canadian Mojo on April 15, 2013, 10:56:51 am
Dear world,

We're sorry.

Sincerely,
Canada.
+1
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Flying Mint Bunny! on April 15, 2013, 11:12:49 am
Dear world,

We're sorry.

Sincerely,
Canada.
+1

Before I found out Justin Bieber was Canadian, I thought he was American.

So I think you missed a trick by not just denying all knowledge of Justin Bieber and letting the Americans take the blame.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Canadian Mojo on April 15, 2013, 11:29:21 am
Psst.

Nickleback is Canadian too.

Sorry.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: kefkaownsall on April 15, 2013, 11:33:28 am
We're sorry for making them big though. 
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Flying Mint Bunny! on April 15, 2013, 11:39:25 am
Psst.

Nickleback is Canadian too.

Sorry.

I just found that out this year and I was shocked.  :-[
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Damen on April 15, 2013, 11:40:07 am
Oi, unless you're wearing an eye patch, carrying a cutlass and aboard an old sailing ship, you have no swag. GET OFF MY SWAG, I HAVE TO GO BURY IT BEFORE I GET CAUGHT!

As an aside...

I find this example of douchiness on his part less reprehensible than this (http://www.today.com/id/41624745/ns/today-entertainment/t/justin-bieber-i-really-dont-believe-abortion/):

Quote
He does have a solid opinion on abortion. "I really don't believe in abortion," Bieber says. "It's like killing a baby?" How about in cases of rape? "Um. Well, I think that's really sad, but everything happens for a reason. I guess I haven't been in that position, so I wouldn't be able to judge that."

His douchiness abounds.

Also, he wants to become an American citizen. So Canada may get a chance to wash their hands of him.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Art Vandelay on April 15, 2013, 11:55:42 am
Psst.

Nickleback is Canadian too.

Sorry.
Ah well, Canada may shit out some mediocre to insufferable pop stars, but just remember: Skrillex is American.

That is all.

Then again I believe the Brits and Germans made dubsteb and the other variations of essentially shoving a dial-up modem up an ovulating cat's anus (I.E. House, trance, techno, whatever the fuck else it's called) popular in the first place.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Barbarella on April 15, 2013, 12:06:48 pm
Basically SWAG is the new internet word for the "cool factor"

In the normal world, your swag factor is your douchey factor. Beiber has a swag coach, but from the picture of him in Frank's house, he has a douche couch.

He shouldn't have gotten the "Swag Coach". He should've stayed a cute, good-natured, mop-topped kid. I guess the "Swag Coach" was to make him appear "cooler" & "manlier" since he's been mocked for years for being "girly", "prepubescent" & "bubblegum". I'm afraid the intense hatedom created this monster. He doesn't need "swag" he needs to be "himself".

I'm not saying he's this innocent ingenue. He's a teen guy & teen guys are usually goofuses, anyway. I understand that he's technically a grown man, now & felt he needed a more "grown-up" image...but he's doing it wrong. Here's a 19 year old young man who STILL looks and sounds like a Middle-School boy with a boyish voice. In our male-centric culture, that's going to wrack a guy's psyche big-time. He's perceived as less than a man, a child, a little girl. Males tend to have huge & fragile egos and being compared to children & girls is, sadly, considered an insult.

I'd tell him "there's no shame in being a a cute, androgynous, mop-topped prettyboy", heck, girls ADORED the "mop-haired prettyboy". That's what made him so dang beloved by the tween-girl set to begin with.

Remember, Justin started out as just a regular kid that put videos out on YouTube. People back then enjoyed his singing. Then he was discovered by the music companies. He started out a regular average kid with a thing for singing but the whole stardom thing went to his head. Add the hatedom & the slow biological maturation and you have a very insecure, egocentric guy with no guidance & surrounded by yes men. Justin, the public, the producers & perhaps Justin's own physiology are responsible for the the huge douche-nozzle he is, these days.

That said, his note to Anne Frank could be either a hackneyed, misguided praise for her OR legitimate douchebaggery.

He's been a weirdo, lately with his altercations, spitting incidents & this....what a dork! Justin, you DON'T need swag!
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Sleepy on April 15, 2013, 01:39:42 pm
As an aside...

I find this example of douchiness on his part less reprehensible than this (http://www.today.com/id/41624745/ns/today-entertainment/t/justin-bieber-i-really-dont-believe-abortion/):

Quote
He does have a solid opinion on abortion. "I really don't believe in abortion," Bieber says. "It's like killing a baby?" How about in cases of rape? "Um. Well, I think that's really sad, but everything happens for a reason. I guess I haven't been in that position, so I wouldn't be able to judge that."

His douchiness abounds.

Well, this further proves he's got absolutely nothing going for him as a person. Complete douche and no intelligence whatsoever. I guess he feels insecure and tries to make up for it with swag.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Barbarella on April 15, 2013, 01:44:57 pm
As an aside...

I find this example of douchiness on his part less reprehensible than this (http://www.today.com/id/41624745/ns/today-entertainment/t/justin-bieber-i-really-dont-believe-abortion/):

Quote
He does have a solid opinion on abortion. "I really don't believe in abortion," Bieber says. "It's like killing a baby?" How about in cases of rape? "Um. Well, I think that's really sad, but everything happens for a reason. I guess I haven't been in that position, so I wouldn't be able to judge that."

His douchiness abounds.

Well this further proves he's got absolutely nothing going for him as a person. Complete douche and no intelligence whatsoever. I guess he feels insecure and tries to make up for it with swag.

What a dip, that Bieber.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Jack Mann on April 15, 2013, 02:05:25 pm
I...  ...  ...  WHAT.  He defiled the home of Anne fucking Frank?!  One of the most important and influential Jewish people since fucking Abraham?

Godwin's Law be damned, Hitler would be proud of this boy.

No, he didn't literally defile Anne Frank's house.  He just wrote something douchey and self-important in the guest book.  Which is bad, and he should be called out on it, but it's not like he was painting swastikas in there.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: nickiknack on April 15, 2013, 03:06:38 pm
I...  ...  ...  WHAT.  He defiled the home of Anne fucking Frank?!  One of the most important and influential Jewish people since fucking Abraham?

Godwin's Law be damned, Hitler would be proud of this boy.

That would imply that Hitler was into "swag", remember even Hitler had standards.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Sleepy on April 15, 2013, 03:12:40 pm
Bieber: literally worse than Hitler.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 15, 2013, 03:12:47 pm
Look, Canada may have produced this kid, but it was the USA that made him this way.

As far as I'm concerned, Canada has no blame in this matter >_>
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Søren on April 15, 2013, 04:19:50 pm
Oi, unless you're wearing an eye patch, carrying a cutlass and aboard an old sailing ship, you have no swag. GET OFF MY SWAG, I HAVE TO GO BURY IT BEFORE I GET CAUGHT!

As an aside...

I find this example of douchiness on his part less reprehensible than this (http://www.today.com/id/41624745/ns/today-entertainment/t/justin-bieber-i-really-dont-believe-abortion/):

Quote
He does have a solid opinion on abortion. "I really don't believe in abortion," Bieber says. "It's like killing a baby?" How about in cases of rape? "Um. Well, I think that's really sad, but everything happens for a reason. I guess I haven't been in that position, so I wouldn't be able to judge that."

His douchiness abounds.

Also, he wants to become an American citizen. So Canada may get a chance to wash their hands of him.

Well at the end he says he cant judge, so thats not that bad.

Aaaaand I dont see the big deal about this, its a pompousy thing he wrote in a guest book for a house over a random girl waaaaaay back when that bothered to write a diary. Big whoop
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Sleepy on April 15, 2013, 05:01:19 pm
Oi, unless you're wearing an eye patch, carrying a cutlass and aboard an old sailing ship, you have no swag. GET OFF MY SWAG, I HAVE TO GO BURY IT BEFORE I GET CAUGHT!

As an aside...

I find this example of douchiness on his part less reprehensible than this (http://www.today.com/id/41624745/ns/today-entertainment/t/justin-bieber-i-really-dont-believe-abortion/):

Quote
He does have a solid opinion on abortion. "I really don't believe in abortion," Bieber says. "It's like killing a baby?" How about in cases of rape? "Um. Well, I think that's really sad, but everything happens for a reason. I guess I haven't been in that position, so I wouldn't be able to judge that."

His douchiness abounds.

Also, he wants to become an American citizen. So Canada may get a chance to wash their hands of him.

Well at the end he says he cant judge, so thats not that bad.

Aaaaand I dont see the big deal about this, its a pompousy thing he wrote in a guest book for a house over a random girl waaaaaay back when that bothered to write a diary. Big whoop

The diary of that "random girl" has had a tremendous impact, oftentimes viewed as representative of the millions of innocent folks who were slaughtered during the Holocaust. Her commentary on the war and its effects on everyone provides a unique perspective as a citizen (and victim) of that period.  It's not something to roll your eyes at.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Joey on April 15, 2013, 05:06:57 pm
He clearly wasn't trying to be offensive. People are way too easily offended.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Sleepy on April 15, 2013, 05:09:35 pm
I doubt he was trying to be offensive, but this still indicates that he's an egotistical douche. He visits a historical place, and that's what comes out of it.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: kefkaownsall on April 15, 2013, 05:54:51 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/5213fe6047f07b896cb526be9d72318b/tumblr_mlbai1xPWy1r79nfbo1_250.jpg)She said she would literally die for Beiber
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Barbarella on April 15, 2013, 06:07:53 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/5213fe6047f07b896cb526be9d72318b/tumblr_mlbai1xPWy1r79nfbo1_250.jpg)She said she would literally die for Beiber

Where do they find these people?!

I hope that girl's a hoax or troll.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 15, 2013, 06:08:43 pm
I would say that's from the Onion (which I think it is) but then there are girls who have managed to prove the Onion right.

You don't prove the Onion right.  You just don't.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Old Viking on April 15, 2013, 06:09:26 pm
That doesn't seem intentionally disrespectful.  The explanation would include: (a) he has absolutely no concept of civility, good manners or good taste; (b) he doesn't have the foggiest idea of who Anne Frank was, nor of the political context of those times; (c) he is not capable of three consecutive coherent thoughts.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Sleepy on April 15, 2013, 06:11:06 pm
That doesn't seem intentionally disrespectful.  The explanation would include: (a) he has absolutely no concept of civility, good manners or good taste; (b) he doesn't have the foggiest idea of who Anne Frank was, nor of the political context of those times; (c) he is not capable of three consecutive coherent thoughts.

I think all of those apply.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: TheUnknown on April 15, 2013, 06:13:13 pm
I would say that's from the Onion (which I think it is) but then there are girls who have managed to prove the Onion right.

You don't prove the Onion right.  You just don't.

Yes, that is from the Onion.  I follow them on tumblr and saw it posted on my dash.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Jack Mann on April 15, 2013, 06:13:26 pm
Yeah.  I don't imagine he was trying to be a douchenozzle.  He's just so self-absorbed that he honestly thought he was saying something nice about her.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Scotsgit on April 15, 2013, 06:17:27 pm
I would say that's from the Onion (which I think it is) but then there are girls who have managed to prove the Onion right.

You don't prove the Onion right.  You just don't.

Going back a bit, but back in 1989, Private Eye did a regular feature taking the piss out of the green movement called Forever Green, which was meant to be a sitcom about right-on green types.  It was so OTT that you it was at genius level for comedy.  One year later, ITV started a sitcom called.....  Forever Green.  The scripts were lifted straight from Private Eye, the difference was that the TV series was completely straight-faced about it.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Scotsgit on April 15, 2013, 06:19:54 pm
Yeah.  I don't imagine he was trying to be a douchenozzle.  He's just so self-absorbed that he honestly thought he was saying something nice about her.

It should be remembered that a lot of people in the entertainment industry live in a world where they're always right and people tell them how wonderful they are all the time.  Bieber probably thinks (and is probably being told) that what he did was marvellous and the greatest day in human history.

That said, he's still a fucking douchebag for doing it.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 15, 2013, 06:22:55 pm
Yeah.  I don't imagine he was trying to be a douchenozzle.  He's just so self-absorbed that he honestly thought he was saying something nice about her.

I think it's worse that he isn't trying to be a douchenozzle and is succeeding at it anyways.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Barbarella on April 15, 2013, 06:27:53 pm
Yeah.  I don't imagine he was trying to be a douchenozzle.  He's just so self-absorbed that he honestly thought he was saying something nice about her.

That's my impression, too.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: chitoryu12 on April 15, 2013, 06:57:13 pm
Yeah.  I don't imagine he was trying to be a douchenozzle.  He's just so self-absorbed that he honestly thought he was saying something nice about her.

It should be remembered that a lot of people in the entertainment industry live in a world where they're always right and people tell them how wonderful they are all the time.  Bieber probably thinks (and is probably being told) that what he did was marvellous and the greatest day in human history.

That said, he's still a fucking douchebag for doing it.

Speaking as someone who works in that industry, it's a different case than the paparazzi tend to make it look. The guys who end up looking like douchebags (and aren't simply made to look like it from biased tabloid reports) would have been douchebags in any other job. Mel Gibson didn't become a raging racist and drunk from being famous. Russel Crowe didn't suddenly gain the power to throw phones when he made his first million. They were just plain assholes, and being wealthy and famous meant that it was easier for them to get away with it and people heard about their behavior without needing to work under them.

Bieber is a case of someone who has nothing particularly special about him, but has been built up from an early age to view himself as special. Is he a bad singer? No. Some would even go so far as to call him good. But he's not unique or especially talented, and was another dime-a-dozen singing kid on Youtube before he got "discovered". The executive who picked him up picked him because his voice and appearance had the inoffensively androgynous qualities that young girls are attracted to. He was built up into a phenomenon, and girls his age or younger bought his music because they were told by the mass media that he was the Next Big Thing and totally awesome. It's the same thing that's been going on for decades.

The problem is that Bieber's fallen for his own hype and has yet to realize that he's only famous because someone in a suit decided that he should be. Being shoved into fame at such a young age would be hard for anybody, but it doesn't seem like his parents did as much parenting as they should have. Now he thinks that his proverbial shit doesn't stink and has turned into a terror. You can look up any of his earlier stuff, like his bratty behavior on the set of CSI (http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv-movies/justin-bieber-brat-csi-guest-appearance-punched-cake-marg-helgenberger-article-1.143039) that included punching a cake, but he's recently had a huge influx of what could charitably be called "poor behavior." He's on his way to a Lohan-esque breakdown.

The good news is that after spitting on a man and threatening to kill him for shouting at him after he drove his Ferrari over 100 mph through their gated neighborhood, he's being prosecuted for criminal battery.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 15, 2013, 07:05:55 pm
Just to compare...

Daniel Radcliffe of Harry Potter fame, as well as all of his child coworkers, were expected to continue their schooling and were treated as having actual responsibilities.  It was treated like an adult job.  They weren't babied.

Radcliffe, when he became an adult, and had an incident where he was starting the self destructive spiral, drinking and stuff like that.  His coworkers didn't candy their opinion on him doing this.  You know what he did?

He got his act together, he gave them an apology for acting like a douchenozzle, and he continued with his job.

Emma Watson?  She's rich enough that she won't have to work a day in her life, and she still went to college after finishing the movies so that she could still pursue a career.

None of them are riding their fame -- at least not intentionally.  Not in the way Bieber does at the very least.  Daniel Radcliffe moved on to other movies instead of staying Harry Potter forever.

And he also appeared in an episode of Extras where he played as an arrogant version of himself.  So did Orlando Bloom, now that I think about it.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: MadCatTLX on April 15, 2013, 07:15:07 pm
There was that time Radcliffe road a horse naked. That was pretty weird...

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-4mbt7a0oDBE/Tiq56WOy_mI/AAAAAAAAmeY/TTc-JMpEzq4/s1600/daniel-radcliffe-equus.jpg)
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 15, 2013, 07:17:12 pm
Can you imagine an American celebrity doing something like that for a play or movie?

I can't.  They'd all refuse it for fear of their reputation.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Cerim Treascair on April 15, 2013, 07:19:39 pm
Yeah, Radcliffe performed in Equus, and told the parents bitching at him because "he's Harry Potter to the kids" something along the lines of "I am a legal adult.  I am an actor.  I will live my life and take the roles I desire BECAUSE I AM AN ADULT."
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Scotsgit on April 15, 2013, 07:21:46 pm
Can you imagine an American celebrity doing something like that for a play or movie?

I can't.  They'd all refuse it for fear of their reputation.

We've had a few American actors appear nude on the West End stage, mostly female ones in productions of The Graduate.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 15, 2013, 07:27:11 pm
Can you imagine an American celebrity doing something like that for a play or movie?

I can't.  They'd all refuse it for fear of their reputation.

We've had a few American actors appear nude on the West End stage, mostly female ones in productions of The Graduate.

Were they celebrities though?
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: TheUnknown on April 15, 2013, 07:33:37 pm
There was that time Radcliffe road a horse naked. That was pretty weird...

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Equus itself is a messed up story.  But it's funny Daniel Radcliffe should be mentioned, because in an interview he did with J.K. Rowling, he said he felt a major difference between the British and US production teams was that British production teams treated child actors as children first and celebrities second, whereas US production teams treated child actors as celebrities first and children second.  This was only his personal observation, so I don't know how accurate it is. 
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Scotsgit on April 15, 2013, 07:46:07 pm
Can you imagine an American celebrity doing something like that for a play or movie?

I can't.  They'd all refuse it for fear of their reputation.

We've had a few American actors appear nude on the West End stage, mostly female ones in productions of The Graduate.

Were they celebrities though?

Kathleen Turner, Lorraine Bracco, Jerry Hall, Amanda Donohoe, Morgan Fairchild, Anne Archer, Vera Fischer and Linda Gray have all done it, as has Joan Collins.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: niam2023 on April 15, 2013, 08:26:07 pm
Justin Bieber is more self centered and egotistical than fucking Qilby.

And at least that guy had something of an excuse for it!

Seriously, this kid is completely self centered and out of control.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: dpareja on April 15, 2013, 08:29:39 pm
I remember reading that the lead in Equus is a role that basically no actor in his right mind turns down if it's offered.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Thejebusfire on April 15, 2013, 08:41:23 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/5213fe6047f07b896cb526be9d72318b/tumblr_mlbai1xPWy1r79nfbo1_250.jpg)She said she would literally die for Beiber

Where do they find these people?!

I hope that girl's a hoax or troll.

My cousin's 13 year old threatened to kill herself because my cousin couldn't afford to take her to Justin Bieber's concert.

Also, Justin is having the most hilarious downward spiral ever.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: nickiknack on April 15, 2013, 08:42:43 pm
I love how this thread has been derailed into actors/actresses that have appeared nude in plays... ;D
That being said:
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Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: chitoryu12 on April 15, 2013, 09:20:35 pm
I remember reading that the lead in Equus is a role that basically no actor in his right mind turns down if it's offered.

Pretty much. The role of Alan Strang is notoriously difficult to perform well. Fear of nudity can be overcome by anyone, but actually acting is what takes the toll. Doing a good job as Strang, especially in a major professional production (and ESPECIALLY on Broadway), is a sign of your skills as an actor and opens a lot of doors for you. Even being accepted for the role after your audition lets everyone know that you've got serious chops.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 15, 2013, 09:43:45 pm
I've always held that, when the time comes, the next Doctor should be Daniel Radcliffe.  He would make a fucking incredible Doctor.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Shane for Wax on April 15, 2013, 10:08:17 pm
Just to compare...

Daniel Radcliffe of Harry Potter fame, as well as all of his child coworkers, were expected to continue their schooling and were treated as having actual responsibilities.  It was treated like an adult job.  They weren't babied.

Radcliffe, when he became an adult, and had an incident where he was starting the self destructive spiral, drinking and stuff like that.  His coworkers didn't candy their opinion on him doing this.  You know what he did?

He got his act together, he gave them an apology for acting like a douchenozzle, and he continued with his job.

Emma Watson?  She's rich enough that she won't have to work a day in her life, and she still went to college after finishing the movies so that she could still pursue a career.

None of them are riding their fame -- at least not intentionally.  Not in the way Bieber does at the very least.  Daniel Radcliffe moved on to other movies instead of staying Harry Potter forever.

And he also appeared in an episode of Extras where he played as an arrogant version of himself.  So did Orlando Bloom, now that I think about it.

Rupert Grint bought an ice cream truck and hands out free ice cream to kids.

...What?
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Cerim Treascair on April 15, 2013, 10:55:35 pm
I do think that's one of the more awesome uses of his money.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on April 15, 2013, 10:57:19 pm
He clearly wasn't trying to be offensive. People are way too easily offended.
Whether or not he was trying to be offensive is irrelevant. The point is that when you visit certain places--memorials to war dead or sites connected to the Holocaust--you need to be on your best goddamn behavior and show at least a modicum of respect. That means you carry yourself in a dignified manner and refrain from acting like a childish douchenozzle who thinks everything is about you, which is what Bieber did.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Scotsgit on April 15, 2013, 10:57:43 pm
I've always held that, when the time comes, the next Doctor should be Daniel Radcliffe.  He would make a fucking incredible Doctor.

Too young.  Now, Pierce Brosnan..... 8)
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 15, 2013, 11:05:27 pm
I'd actually be more annoyed if Bieber not trying to be insulting.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 16, 2013, 12:52:12 am
I've always held that, when the time comes, the next Doctor should be Daniel Radcliffe.  He would make a fucking incredible Doctor.

Too young.  Now, Pierce Brosnan..... 8)

Hey, Matt Smith was only 26 when he got the part, and he'll probably be around another few seasons, so ol Danny boy will have time to grow into it, lol.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: SpaceProg on April 16, 2013, 08:46:19 am
Yep.  Matt broke Peter Davison's "Too Young" (he was 29 when he got the part) age record. 
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Flying Mint Bunny! on April 16, 2013, 08:50:52 am
I've always held that, when the time comes, the next Doctor should be Daniel Radcliffe.  He would make a fucking incredible Doctor.

Too young.  Now, Pierce Brosnan..... 8)

Hey, Matt Smith was only 26 when he got the part, and he'll probably be around another few seasons, so ol Danny boy will have time to grow into it, lol.

I can't really see Pierce Brosnan as Dr Who, he doesn't really have that eccentric vibe that the other Dr Whos had.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on April 16, 2013, 08:51:57 am
Now I have no clue what we're discussing.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: SpaceProg on April 16, 2013, 08:54:03 am
It's FSTDT Forums.  Random Who-Talk can pop up anywhere.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Scotsgit on April 16, 2013, 09:38:00 am
I've always held that, when the time comes, the next Doctor should be Daniel Radcliffe.  He would make a fucking incredible Doctor.

Too young.  Now, Pierce Brosnan..... 8)

Hey, Matt Smith was only 26 when he got the part, and he'll probably be around another few seasons, so ol Danny boy will have time to grow into it, lol.

I can't really see Pierce Brosnan as Dr Who, he doesn't really have that eccentric vibe that the other Dr Whos had.


That's what people said about Jon Pertwee prior to taking the role.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Flying Mint Bunny! on April 16, 2013, 09:52:00 am
I've always held that, when the time comes, the next Doctor should be Daniel Radcliffe.  He would make a fucking incredible Doctor.

Too young.  Now, Pierce Brosnan..... 8)

Hey, Matt Smith was only 26 when he got the part, and he'll probably be around another few seasons, so ol Danny boy will have time to grow into it, lol.

I can't really see Pierce Brosnan as Dr Who, he doesn't really have that eccentric vibe that the other Dr Whos had.


That's what people said about Jon Pertwee prior to taking the role.

I guess you're right. Now that I think about it, he was quite odd in Mars Attacks.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Shane for Wax on April 16, 2013, 09:58:17 am
Pierce is too old. And too recognizable as a totally different role.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Scotsgit on April 16, 2013, 10:04:57 am
Pierce is too old. And too recognizable as a totally different role.

And Radcliffe is too identifiable for his famous role.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Shane for Wax on April 16, 2013, 10:15:14 am
I never said I wanted Radcliffe as the Doctor, tho. :P

I wish they'd give 9's eps the HD treatment tho.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Cerim Treascair on April 16, 2013, 03:30:59 pm
on that same sort of note, I can't listen to Liam Neeson in any of his roles without thinking of 'Taken'.  I hear his voice and all I think is "I have a very particular set of skills..."
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on April 16, 2013, 03:39:29 pm
It's FSTDT Forums.  Random Who-Talk can pop up anywhere.
I guess so...
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Vypernight on April 16, 2013, 03:48:32 pm
Sounds more like Hanlon's Razor:  "Never assume malice of what can be attributed to stupidity."

Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: chitoryu12 on April 16, 2013, 05:08:46 pm
I wonder if Justin Bieber has ever been to Matt Smith's house.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Auggziliary on April 16, 2013, 05:43:02 pm
I'd actually be more annoyed if Bieber not trying to be insulting.

What?
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: IanC on April 16, 2013, 06:02:32 pm
on that same sort of note, I can't listen to Liam Neeson in any of his roles without thinking of 'Taken'.  I hear his voice and all I think is "I have a very particular set of skills..."
I had that problem with The Hobbit. Every time Thorin spoke, i have expected him to blabber on about Robin of Loxley, since the actor that played him was also Guy of Gisbourne in BBCS recent(ish) version of Robin Hood. Oddly didn't have any problem with Sylvester McCoy as Radagast the Brown.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Shane for Wax on April 17, 2013, 02:39:56 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/00acd3a4c393732973db5e9bc062377f/tumblr_mldf7es3yt1rbl50so1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Flying Mint Bunny! on April 17, 2013, 03:30:36 pm
I think Anne Frank would have been a Belieber, because she would be in her 80s now and people in their 80s are notorious Justin Bieber fans.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Sleepy on April 17, 2013, 03:48:21 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/00acd3a4c393732973db5e9bc062377f/tumblr_mldf7es3yt1rbl50so1_500.jpg)

Fuckin' burn.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Old Viking on April 17, 2013, 05:18:40 pm
I once appeared naked on Broadway.  That didn't end well, however.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 17, 2013, 05:19:34 pm
I once appeared naked on Broadway.  That didn't end well, however.

How many people did you permanently blind? ;D
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 17, 2013, 05:50:59 pm
I'd actually be more annoyed if Bieber not trying to be insulting.

What?

The idea that he honestly thought what he did was acceptable annoys me more than the idea that he's just an asshole. How do you get brought up like that?
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 17, 2013, 06:51:43 pm
I'd actually be more annoyed if Bieber not trying to be insulting.

What?

The idea that he honestly thought what he did was acceptable annoys me more than the idea that he's just an asshole. How do you get brought up like that?

American Child Celebrities.

That's how.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: chitoryu12 on April 17, 2013, 09:23:14 pm
I don't know a lot about Justin's parents, but the fact that he turned out like this makes me think that he was raised pretty poorly. Looking at Wikipedia, his mother seems to have been pushing to get him into the music industry from an early age and was afraid of having Scooter Braun offer Bieber the job because he was Jewish and had to pray with her church elders to be convinced to let Braun become "his man."

That should be a bit telling as to how Bieber's life went. After that, it seems like Bieber spent most of his time with the celebrities and producers; mix a whacko (possibly fundie) mother with the majority of his teenage years being spent in the celebrity scene and you've got a recipe for disaster.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Defiles Anne Frank House
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 18, 2013, 12:01:48 am
I wonder if Justin Bieber has ever been to Matt Smith's house.

Matt Smith would do the British people proud...and punch that little shithead right in the taint.