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Title: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: VirtualStranger on August 30, 2012, 11:39:10 pm
I'm stunned. I have no words. I can't take this anymore. Why did I just do that to myself?

Fuck everything.


Also, what in the ever-loving fuck was going on with Clint Eastwood? That was bizarre as shit.
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: Witchyjoshy on August 30, 2012, 11:44:22 pm
A summary for those of us fortunate enough to miss it?
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: VirtualStranger on August 30, 2012, 11:56:10 pm
A summary for those of us fortunate enough to miss it?

No summary could ever do it justice. No seriously, there was so much that you guys missed that there's no way to mention it all.

I will mention this, though, because it was the single weirdest thing I have ever seen at a political event. Clint Eastwood got on stage, started talking to a chair, and rambled on about nothing like a senile old man. I have no idea what he was doing or what he was even talking about. It was fucking bizarre.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGl-4gByV4
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: unknown on August 31, 2012, 12:08:39 am
A summary for those of us fortunate enough to miss it?

My grandma and I couldn't even stomach five minutes of it, but here's a summary of what we did see:

-Claiming voting Republican will make the country better in four years then the four years we've had a Democrat

-Giving unconditional support to "job creators"

-Claiming lower taxes for business while not raising taxes for middle class (where the hell is government spending money money going to come from, then?)

-Claiming to protect freedom of religion (we all know what he probably means by that)

-Claiming that Republicans support women (though in this context, it was women business owners, but still)

-Making fun of Obama for caring about the environment by wording it in a way that made it seem like Obama thought he was God

-Pretty much saying 'fuck you' to the future of the planet by saying 'he cares about America now'

-Making fun of Obama for apologizing for invading countries

-Saying that America has liberated countries from dictators

-Massive cheering for anti-democrat/anti-liberal remarks

-Chants of "USA! USA!"
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: VirtualStranger on August 31, 2012, 12:10:33 am
Another highlight was when Romney mentioned Obama's promise to take steps to reduce global warming and the crowd laughed as if it was a joke. (and I'm not so sure that it wasn't) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbkYBGVVpSc

When Romney mentioned helping the poor and the sick, the crowd was silent. You could practically hear the crickets in the room.


Maddow's reaction to Clint Eastwood was priceless.

Quote
"I don't ... I don't ... I don't know. It's ... it's there. I don't...I don't............I don't know. That was the weirdest thing I've seen in a political convention in my life. If I live to 100, this will still be the weirdest thing I have ever seen in my life. Clint Eastwood is an 82 year old man, I'm not sure if that's what was going on there... I just don't know" - Maddow
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: VirtualStranger on August 31, 2012, 12:31:15 am
Also, this happened:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZC95yEqiRE
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: nickiknack on August 31, 2012, 12:39:14 am
I will mention this, though, because it was the single weirdest thing I have ever seen at a political event. Clint Eastwood got on stage, started talking to a chair, and rambled on about nothing like a senile old man. I have no idea what he was doing or what he was even talking about. It was fucking bizarre.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGl-4gByV4

All the respect I ever had for Eastwood just went out the window. Either he's on drugs or dementia has set in. I always thought he was more on the "Libertarian" side if anything. Why the fuck is he whoring for the Republicans, after all it's not like they're doing anything to improve the country, unless one thinks putting road blocks up at every turn will help. Kind of shocked he isn't whoring for Ron Paul, he's the type.
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: Stormwarden on August 31, 2012, 12:48:21 am
I see Mitt is channeling his inner Brack (Space Ghost Coast to Coast)...
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: davedan on August 31, 2012, 12:52:38 am
"I never thought attorney's should be president"

So Abraham Lincoln, no good as a president huh?
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: VirtualStranger on August 31, 2012, 01:00:46 am
I forgot to mention how Romney invoked Neil Armstrong's death for cheap political points.

I was in a frothing rage for some time after that.
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: kefkaownsall on August 31, 2012, 01:22:58 am
Why was Clint arguing with a chair?
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: Lt. Fred on August 31, 2012, 01:27:43 am
"I never thought attorney's should be president"

So Abraham Lincoln, no good as a president huh?

ATTORNEYS, NOT ATTORNEY'S. IT'S THE PLURAL, NOT THE CONJUNCTIVE.
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: Art Vandelay on August 31, 2012, 01:32:28 am
"I never thought attorney's should be president"

So Abraham Lincoln, no good as a president huh?

ATTORNEYS, NOT ATTORNEY'S. IT'S THE PLURAL, NOT THE CONJUNCTIVE.

I agree wholeheartedly with your point, however I feel I should point out that capital letters go only at the start of a sentence or the start of a proper noun. When correcting grammar, it's prudent to ensure that your own doesn't suffer at the hands of your own emotions.
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: davedan on August 31, 2012, 01:39:20 am
"I never thought attorney's should be president"

So Abraham Lincoln, no good as a president huh?

ATTORNEYS, NOT ATTORNEY'S. IT'S THE PLURAL, NOT THE CONJUNCTIVE. POSSESSIVE

I agree wholeheartedly with your point, however I feel I should point out that capital letters go only at the start of a sentence or the start of a proper noun. When correcting grammar, it's prudent to ensure that your own doesn't suffer at the hands of your own emotions.

Really

Edit: because grammar and punctuation are serious business. But as to my point. You understood right. Grammar Twats.
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on August 31, 2012, 01:56:28 am
So aside from the Eastwood shit, whatever that was, it was just the Republicans going on about shit we already knew they would?

I do know a lot of state representatives had to cancel their appearances because of the weather, plus Donald Trump.
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: Lt. Fred on August 31, 2012, 02:07:44 am
"I never thought attorney's should be president"

So Abraham Lincoln, no good as a president huh?

ATTORNEYS, NOT ATTORNEY'S. IT'S THE PLURAL, NOT THE CONJUNCTIVE.

I agree wholeheartedly with your point, however I feel I should point out that capital letters go only at the start of a sentence or the start of a proper noun. When correcting grammar, it's prudent to ensure that your own doesn't suffer at the hands of your own emotions.

I'm not going to answer this, because it's so manifestly silly any response would just be flaming. Don't want to feed the troll.
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: Art Vandelay on August 31, 2012, 02:21:59 am
You just keep telling yourself that, Freddy boy.
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: SpaceProg on August 31, 2012, 09:29:32 am
Maybe Eastwood is so close to the other side he's starting to see stuff from there.  Maybe he was arguing with Lincoln in the chair.


Man he was awesome in the old days as Rowdy Yates...
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: kefkaownsall on August 31, 2012, 10:01:30 am
Also Ryan's speech 2 nights ago was so bad EVEN FOX had an issue.
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: GLaDOS on August 31, 2012, 11:17:22 am
Just curious: did anybody else catch the part in the campaign video where they said he would drive a mile to save $.50? if you average out the price of the gas per mile, and multiply it by two (for the trip back), it turns out that he's actually losing some money!
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: Veras on August 31, 2012, 11:37:48 am
I listened to two speeches:  one by the founder of Staples, and one by the Lt. Governor who served under Romney.  I am now more convinced than ever that I do not live in the same reality as the Republicans.
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: SpaceProg on August 31, 2012, 11:43:21 am
They open their mouths and go blah blah ya ya.  Yet they say nada.
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: Smilodon on August 31, 2012, 02:04:28 pm
A summary for those of us fortunate enough to miss it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4zYlOU7Fpk
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: RavynousHunter on August 31, 2012, 02:40:08 pm
I'd love it if Clint Eastwood was simply invoking Poe's Law and just trolled the RNC harder than any person but him has a right to.
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: Smilodon on August 31, 2012, 05:17:17 pm
Is anyone else perturbed by the fact that Paul Ryan basically said "we won't blame other people" then in the same speech went and blamed Obama for a bunch of stuff?

Also, did someone give me a +1 fucks given for the two minutes hate video? That's nice and all, but I'm just posting what the obvious truth is.
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: kefkaownsall on August 31, 2012, 05:28:00 pm
I did it was more for telling me that there is a 1984 movie
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: Smilodon on August 31, 2012, 05:32:17 pm
I did it was more for telling me that there is a 1984 movie

It probably isn't as good as the book (I've only read excerpts of it), but I found the film very pertinent.
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: Qlockworkcanary on August 31, 2012, 05:36:20 pm
The book is 100x better than the movie, in my opinion.

Anyway, I was daydreaming at work today and thought I should take a picture of myself talking to an empty chair for my online avatar images.

This whole invisible Obama skit really reinforces/underscores that the GOP (and their followers) are really about attacking the phantom menace version (and I don't mean the George Lucas kind) of Obama -this misconstrued boogey man they've been working so hard to define. I mean, talk about attacking a straw man with no possibility of rebuttal!

Too bad you don't tend to win elections voting against somebody; they still have to give people a reason to vote for Romney. I don't think this convention gave anyone a reason that wasn't already behind him, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: SpaceProg on August 31, 2012, 05:45:19 pm
The book is very good (IMO), so if the movie is anywhere close, it's worth seeing.
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: Sigma on August 31, 2012, 07:43:58 pm
Why was Clint arguing with a chair?
"A chair"? Is that how you talk about your President, young man? Mr. Eastwood obviously had a very interesting discussion with President Obama, and if I may say so, he totally talked him down. Obama had nothing against him. It was inspiring.

As a foreigner I have to ask this, because I have no idea : Was this big in television, did a big part of the population watch it, or was this just followed by those who lost their marbles anyway? I mean, does this actually influence those who are undecided? And how did the media react to this? I don't mean fox news, but those who are independent and neutral.... do you have big neutral news stations on the other side of the pond? Sorry for asking this, right now I feel like those guys who ask me if we have fridges and if Hitler is still in power, but as the only side of America I have seen in the last months were those people, I guess it's a valid question.
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: kefkaownsall on August 31, 2012, 07:47:18 pm
Why was Clint arguing with a chair?
"A chair"? Is that how you talk about your President, young man? Mr. Eastwood obviously had a very interesting discussion with President Obama, and if I may say so, he totally talked him down. Obama had nothing against him. It was inspiring.

As a foreigner I have to ask this, because I have no idea : Was this big in television, did a big part of the population watch it, or was this just followed by those who lost their marbles anyway? I mean, does this actually influence those who are undecided? And how did the media react to this? I don't mean fox news, but those who are independent and neutral.... do you have big neutral news stations on the other side of the pond? Sorry for asking this, right now I feel like those guys who ask me if we have fridges and if Hitler is still in power, but as the only side of America I have seen in the last months were those people, I guess it's a valid question.
People do watch the cons or at least the coverage.  And yes people will believe these clowns.
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: Sigma on August 31, 2012, 07:53:05 pm
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People do watch the cons or at least the coverage.  And yes people will believe these clowns.

Well, that is just sad... and frightening.
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: KZN02 on August 31, 2012, 08:16:00 pm
I'd love it if Clint Eastwood was simply invoking Poe's Law and just trolled the RNC harder than any person but him has a right to.
Makes you wonder if Anonymous was involved somehow.
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on August 31, 2012, 08:40:48 pm
Anyone see Obama's actual response (https://twitter.com/BarackObama/statuses/241392153148915712?tw_i=241392153148915712&tw_e=media&tw_p=tweetembed) to Eastwood? Pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: Vypernight on September 01, 2012, 05:39:45 am
Another highlight was when Romney mentioned Obama's promise to take steps to reduce global warming and the crowd laughed as if it was a joke. (and I'm not so sure that it wasn't) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbkYBGVVpSc

When Romney mentioned helping the poor and the sick, the crowd was silent. You could practically hear the crickets in the room.


Maddow's reaction to Clint Eastwood was priceless.

Quote
"I don't ... I don't ... I don't know. It's ... it's there. I don't...I don't............I don't know. That was the weirdest thing I've seen in a political convention in my life. If I live to 100, this will still be the weirdest thing I have ever seen in my life. Clint Eastwood is an 82 year old man, I'm not sure if that's what was going on there... I just don't know" - Maddow

I finally watched this after a someone on my FB page praised the $%#@ out of it.  normally, I respect Clint, and in this case I see what he's trying to do.  Unfortunately, pretty much everything he said is wrong.  No Obama didn't make the deadline of bringing troops home, but he did it, and took out Bin Ladin with a loss of ZERO American lives.  No he didn't bring the economy back to the Clinton years, but he did stop it from falling to another Depression.  Oh, and as for Conservatives no being outward about themselves, tell that to all the people with Romney/Mccain/Yes on 2 bumper stickers who ignore red lights, stop signs, turn signals, and other people!

Once again, I get the idea behind the speech, but the facts are way off.
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: Dantes Virgil on September 01, 2012, 10:59:09 am


As a foreigner I have to ask this, because I have no idea : Was this big in television, did a big part of the population watch it, or was this just followed by those who lost their marbles anyway? I mean, does this actually influence those who are undecided? And how did the media react to this? I don't mean fox news, but those who are independent and neutral.... do you have big neutral news stations on the other side of the pond? Sorry for asking this, right now I feel like those guys who ask me if we have fridges and if Hitler is still in power, but as the only side of America I have seen in the last months were those people, I guess it's a valid question.

The convention was played on major cable networks during prime time, so a big part of the population had access to it (whether they watched it or not, I'm not sure, don't have those stats offhand).  The independent/neutral stuff I consider to be along the lines of PBS, and they were there covering it and inteviewing delegates.  I think they did a decent job of pointing out some of the misinformation, but they had a hard time talking to some of the people they interviewed -- the interviewees were sometimes yelling/running over top of the people asking the questions.  I thought their analysis was pretty fair.  But I don't personally think most Americans watch PBS or other "neutral" stations.  Just my opinion, though.
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: Veras on September 01, 2012, 12:18:46 pm
A lot of people watch the conventions, according to Nielsen, it was 33 million this time.  The Presidential candidates nomination acceptance speeches draw the biggest television audiences of the entire election, except for the debates.

After a party's convention, their presidential candidate gains a few points in the polls.  Political Scientists refer to it as the "convention bump."  I would guess that most of the people who are part of that shift are undecideds who would probably have ended up voting that way to begin with, but I can't back that up with data.  I also don't know how consistently people who start polling toward a candidate following their party's convention actually support that candidate by election day.  It may very well be that they are just excited by all the pomp and circumstance, and that excitement could wear off by November.

In any case, the convention bumps tend to be fairly small and equal for both parties.
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: Old Viking on September 01, 2012, 02:26:00 pm
Didn't listen to these mouth-breathers. Won't listen to their opponents. It only encourages them.
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: chad sexington on September 01, 2012, 10:38:00 pm
I did it was more for telling me that there is a 1984 movie

There's also this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPy0GGXYLRY

I haven't seen it all the way through, so I can't say how close it stays to the book.
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: The Illusive Man on September 02, 2012, 12:37:45 am
Has anyone made dementia jokes yet? Because, ”having hallucinations, arguments, striking out, and violent behavior” (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001748/) describes Clint’s behavior at the convention all too well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z_-ZDgwVog
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: SpaceProg on September 02, 2012, 01:04:04 am
Well senility was mentioned, which could be grouped in with that.
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on September 02, 2012, 01:48:51 am
Has anyone made dementia jokes yet?
Yes, and much, much more ;D

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Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: KZN02 on September 02, 2012, 01:55:28 am
Speaking of which, I've heard George Takei is writing the script for a similar skit for the DNC.
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on September 02, 2012, 02:14:16 am
Speaking of which, I've heard George Takei is writing the script for a similar skit for the DNC.
Amazing. I <3 George Takei.
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: Dantes Virgil on September 02, 2012, 12:03:05 pm
In an odd way it totally makes sense he was talking to an empty chair.  After all, their version of what Obama is, where he came from and what he stands for or will do isn't real anyway.  Their version is a made up boogeyman.  He was talking to an imaginary enemy.
Title: Re: Did anyone just watch the RNC speeches?
Post by: nickiknack on September 02, 2012, 07:48:50 pm
Speaking of which, I've heard George Takei is writing the script for a similar skit for the DNC.
Amazing. I <3 George Takei.

seconded, George Takei is THE MAN!!!