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Even if this is true - which I doubt - that doesn't necessarily reflect on the entire LGBT rights movement (or indeed, anybody other than him).
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Politics and Government / Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Last post by The_Queen on Today at 07:48:49 am »
Because you don't need a national bill to do it--not at first, when you don't have the support. Get some state bills through. Get Casey overturned. Pass a bunch of restrictive laws in all the states they still control. Show that the sky didn't fall.

Right now, though, I'm wondering what's next: Coit, Brown or Griswold.

Griswold, Obergefell, and Brown, in that order.

Glad Hillary didn’t win and ensure their demise.
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Politics and Government / Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Last post by dpareja on Today at 01:21:40 am »
Because you don't need a national bill to do it--not at first, when you don't have the support. Get some state bills through. Get Casey overturned. Pass a bunch of restrictive laws in all the states they still control. Show that the sky didn't fall.

Right now, though, I'm wondering what's next: Coit, Brown or Griswold.
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Politics and Government / Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Last post by Chaos Undivided on Today at 12:29:05 am »
Let's try and be realistic here, not run around like the sky is falling. While I could see new restrictions on abortion coming around, I don't think the GOP will try to outright ban it. Why would they get rid of one of their biggest rallying points? And if they really wanted to get rid of abortion on a national level, why didn't they try before the midterms? They only tried to ban abortions after 20 weeks.

Dynamic Paragon Lana, why does your head always happen to be in the sand?

I said national level. That's just Ohio. If a bill like this gets lots of support in Congress, then you'll be right.
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Politics and Government / Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Last post by Skybison on April 17, 2019, 11:31:06 pm »
Let's try and be realistic here, not run around like the sky is falling. While I could see new restrictions on abortion coming around, I don't think the GOP will try to outright ban it. Why would they get rid of one of their biggest rallying points? And if they really wanted to get rid of abortion on a national level, why didn't they try before the midterms? They only tried to ban abortions after 20 weeks.

I'm sure he just got emotional and made a typo.

Dynamic Paragon Lana, why does your head always happen to be in the sand?
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Politics and Government / Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Last post by dpareja on April 17, 2019, 06:05:37 pm »
Let's try and be realistic here, not run around like the sky is falling. While I could see new restrictions on abortion coming around, I don't think the GOP will try to outright ban it. Why would they get rid of one of their biggest rallying points? And if they really wanted to get rid of abortion on a national level, why didn't they try before the midterms? They only tried to ban abortions after 20 weeks.

The laws they've been drawing up for the states they control are clearly designed to ban abortion entirely.  And they want to push them to the Supreme Court to get the SC to reverse Roe.

The one they just passed in Texas makes abortion MURDER.  With all punishments included, including the death penalty.  I doubt they're stupid enough to try for it, but still...

Are you referring to Rep. Tinderholt's bill?

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/4/11/18304825/abortion-texas-tony-tinderholt-death-penalty-bill

I thought that was just proposed.
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Politics and Government / Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Last post by DarkPhoenix on April 17, 2019, 05:56:19 pm »
Let's try and be realistic here, not run around like the sky is falling. While I could see new restrictions on abortion coming around, I don't think the GOP will try to outright ban it. Why would they get rid of one of their biggest rallying points? And if they really wanted to get rid of abortion on a national level, why didn't they try before the midterms? They only tried to ban abortions after 20 weeks.

The laws they've been drawing up for the states they control are clearly designed to ban abortion entirely.  And they want to push them to the Supreme Court to get the SC to reverse Roe.

The one they just passed in Texas makes abortion MURDER.  With all punishments included, including the death penalty.  I doubt they're stupid enough to try for it, but still...
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Politics and Government / Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Last post by The_Queen on April 17, 2019, 05:44:58 pm »
Let's try and be realistic here, not run around like the sky is falling. While I could see new restrictions on abortion coming around, I don't think the GOP will try to outright ban it. Why would they get rid of one of their biggest rallying points? And if they really wanted to get rid of abortion on a national level, why didn't they try before the midterms? They only tried to ban abortions after 20 weeks.

Dynamic Paragon Lana, why does your head always happen to be in the sand?
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Politics and Government / Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Last post by dpareja on April 17, 2019, 04:37:01 pm »
Hey thanks for making my point for me.  The reason why Turtle goes along with everything the Orange Piss Pot does is a combination of Trump knows what Russia found out about him, his wife's job depends on it, and Trump's more popular then him in Kentucky.  All that equals the most spineless worm in Congress at the moment who's doing everything in his power to keep the baby happy.

Ironbite-cause if he doesn't, bye bye cushy Congressional job.

I agree on the second--but McConnell might be ruthless enough anyway (in the abstract), if he thought it would be politically beneficial, and Sec. Chao could probably find a perfectly good private sector job.

To the first, I still doubt Trump has much dirt on McConnell, or most anyone else.

Ultimately it's the third that's the real killer here, and that's why I suspect just about any Republican would do the same in McConnell's position--they'd have a hell of a time winning their primary if they didn't. (Murkowski possibly excluded--she might lose her primary, but she already did that once and won as a write-in anyway.)

Any Republican President would pursue largely the same policies as Trump. Given Trump, any Republican Congressional leader would pursue largely the same path with respect to Trump as Ryan and McConnell.
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Politics and Government / Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Last post by dpareja on April 17, 2019, 04:28:46 pm »
Because there's only one thing to label and it's labeled?

And even then, not really.
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