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Offline syaoranvee

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The Pirate Bay sunk in the UK
« on: May 01, 2012, 04:33:40 pm »
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The Swedish website hosts links to download mostly pirated free music and video.

Sky, Everything Everywhere, TalkTalk, O2 and Virgin Media must all prevent their users from accessing the site.

"Sites like The Pirate Bay destroy jobs in the UK and undermine investment in new British artists," the British Phonographic Industry (BPI) said.

A sixth ISP, BT, requested "a few more weeks" to consider their position on blocking the site.

BPI's chief executive Geoff Taylor said: "The High Court has confirmed that The Pirate Bay infringes copyright on a massive scale.

"Its operators line their pockets by commercially exploiting music and other creative works without paying a penny to the people who created them.

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Virgin Media told the BBC it will now comply with the request, but warned such measures are, in the long term, only part of the solution.

"As a responsible ISP, Virgin Media complies with court orders addressed to the company but strongly believes that changing consumer behaviour to tackle copyright infringement also needs compelling legal alternatives, such as our agreement with Spotify, to give consumers access to great content at the right price."

The Pirate Bay was launched in 2003 by a group of friends from Sweden and rapidly became one of the most famous file-sharing sites on the web.

It allows users to search for and access copyrighted content including movies, games and TV shows.

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In April 2009, the Swedish courts found the four founders of the site guilty of helping people circumvent copyright controls.
The ruling was upheld after an appeal in 2010, but the site continues to function.

The Pirate Party UK, a spin-off from the political movement started in Sweden that backs copyright reform, said this latest move will "not put any extra pennies into the pockets of artists".

"Unfortunately, the move to order blocking on The Pirate Bay comes as no surprise," party leader Loz Kaye told the BBC.
"The truth is that we are on a slippery slope towards internet censorship here in the United Kingdom."

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However, one analyst told the BBC that it was still worthwhile to take court action as it underlines the illegal nature of sites such as The Pirate Bay.

"I know it's fashionable to say 'oh, it just won't work', but we should keep trying," said Mark Little, principal analyst at Ovum.

"We should keep blocking them - they are stealing music illegally.
"The biggest culprits of this, really, are the younger demographic who just haven't been convinced that doing this is somehow morally uncomfortable.
"The principle that downloading music illegally is a bad thing to do has not been reinforced by schools or parents."


But Jim Killock, executive director of the Open Rights Group, called the move "pointless and dangerous".

"It will fuel calls for further, wider and even more drastic calls for internet censorship of many kinds, from pornography to extremism," he said.
"Internet censorship is growing in scope and becoming easier. Yet it never has the effect desired. It simply turns criminals into heroes."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17894176

Good for the UK, as Pirate Bay is one of the most used sites for stolen material on the internet and yes, most people don't seem to bother enforce the fact that stealing things on the internet is still theft or in the words of person I found that made a sensible arguement:

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Theft is theft, guys. Intellectual property is not only property, it's the most important kind of property. You can't make more snickers bars by stealing a snickers bar.
You can make more by stealing the recipe. Digital media is basically the recipe for multimedia entertainment.

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Re: The Pirate Bay sunk in the UK
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2012, 05:22:34 pm »
And this won't make a single lick of difference to anyone who is actually determined to pirate.
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Re: The Pirate Bay sunk in the UK
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2012, 05:23:39 pm »
syaoranvee, this law professor smashes your claim to pieces.  Theft isn't black and white in the digital world - http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/29/opinion/theft-law-in-the-21st-century.html?_r=2&ref=opinion&pagewanted=all
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Re: The Pirate Bay sunk in the UK
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2012, 05:31:17 pm »
syaoranvee, this law professor smashes your claim to pieces.  Theft isn't black and white in the digital world - http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/29/opinion/theft-law-in-the-21st-century.html?_r=2&ref=opinion&pagewanted=all

The man in that article says illegal downloading is still a problem and should be stopped.  He just doesn't agree on calling it theft.

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Re: The Pirate Bay sunk in the UK
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2012, 05:34:47 pm »
If they're enforcing the block the standard way then it's stupidly easy to bypass.

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Re: The Pirate Bay sunk in the UK
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2012, 05:35:50 pm »
Wow here's how you get around this...PROXY SERVERS!

Ironbite-anyone who tries to block the Internet is in for a rude surprise.

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Re: The Pirate Bay sunk in the UK
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2012, 05:36:36 pm »
syaoranvee, this law professor smashes your claim to pieces.  Theft isn't black and white in the digital world - http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/29/opinion/theft-law-in-the-21st-century.html?_r=2&ref=opinion&pagewanted=all

The man in that article says illegal downloading is still a problem and should be stopped.

And?  No one said otherwise.
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Re: The Pirate Bay sunk in the UK
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2012, 06:21:51 pm »
In other news, the UK government has no idea what proxies are.

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Re: The Pirate Bay sunk in the UK
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2012, 07:49:15 pm »
If I pilfer a DVD from your house, that's theft.

If I borrow a DVD from you and never give it back, that's conversion.

If I borrow a DVD from you, rip it, and then give it back...I may have violated the copyright laws of my jurisdiction, but I haven't denied you the use of your DVD.  Therefore it isn't theft.
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Re: The Pirate Bay sunk in the UK
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2012, 07:50:45 pm »
Good luck with  your unfreedom, UK. I'm behind seven proxies.

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Re: The Pirate Bay sunk in the UK
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2012, 08:10:18 pm »
If they just do DNS blocks then you can just change what DNS server your connection uses in about 10 seconds to one your ISP doesn't run.

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Re: The Pirate Bay sunk in the UK
« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2012, 08:27:06 pm »
People will be able to get around it, but it does make it harder for people to steal content.
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Re: The Pirate Bay sunk in the UK
« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2012, 08:28:16 pm »
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"Sites like The Pirate Bay destroy jobs in the UK and undermine investment in new British artists," the British Phonographic Industry (BPI) said.

I read that as "British Pornographic Industry."

Carry on.

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Re: The Pirate Bay sunk in the UK
« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2012, 12:40:24 am »
Fucking proxies, how do they work?

This seems about as well thought out as the Internet filters my school uses. It blocks google but I can still access hardcore porn quite easily. Once I was using Askkids.com(one of the search engines the filter allows because it's supposed to be kid friendly) and searched something normal(I think it was "boredom") and got pictures of Satan masturbating ???.

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