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So while plenty of Americans have driver's licenses or passports or other state-issued ID cards, the ones who don't are overwhelmingly going to be the poor. Who are, in a lot of cases, both minorities and Democrat voters. The U.S. has a nasty history of using seemingly reasonable requirements disenfranchise poor, minority voters.
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Pretty much this.

We do have this rather unpleasant history going back to the beginning of the country and has continued to the modern day.

Bush would  never have been president if Florida hadn't used such a wide open net for it's felon list, stopping tens of thousands of people who should have been able to vote.

There would at least be a case if the republicans could show a sustained problem with voter fraud.  But they can't.  Even during the Bush admin where they had a vested interest in finding and prosecuting voter fraud they couldn't find any.

So Republicans are basically saying it's acceptable to stop untold numbers of legitimate voters from voting (who just happen to vote for their opponents) to solve a problem that doesn't appear to exist.

Republicans saying they want to stop fraud is like Jeffrey Dahmer saying he wants to make you a nice meal.  Maybe he's being nice but....
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Hold on - so you can't vote in a U.S. election if you have *ever* been convicted of a crime? 
Here in Canada you can't vote if you are actually in prison (i.e. serving over 2 years) at the time.  But no problem if you have served your sentence, paid your fine, whatever.
The U.S. way would certainly seem to skew the voting pool in certain areas where minorities appear to be targetted more often.

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Hold on - so you can't vote in a U.S. election if you have *ever* been convicted of a crime? 
Here in Canada you can't vote if you are actually in prison (i.e. serving over 2 years) at the time.  But no problem if you have served your sentence, paid your fine, whatever.
The U.S. way would certainly seem to skew the voting pool in certain areas where minorities appear to be targetted more often.
As with many things in the US, it depends on what state we're talking about. Some states let felons vote with not restrictions, some will completely removing voting rights forever, and there's a lot of states with laws in between. This site has a summary.

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Hold on - so you can't vote in a U.S. election if you have *ever* been convicted of a crime? 
Here in Canada you can't vote if you are actually in prison (i.e. serving over 2 years) at the time.  But no problem if you have served your sentence, paid your fine, whatever.
The U.S. way would certainly seem to skew the voting pool in certain areas where minorities appear to be targetted more often.

In states it varies, but the problem is no-one is even told when the law changes, in my state we re-instated ex-felons voter rights, but there are still thousands that are unaware that they can vote again- if they want to.  Also, in a lot of states you can petition to have your vote reinstated, but their is no standard measure of who gets it back and who doesn't.