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Offline Nightangel8212

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« on: October 12, 2012, 04:19:10 pm »
As a former victim of bullying myself, I still carry a low self esteem, and have a difficult time trusting people. However, it seems that bullying seems to be getting worse, not better, especially if the following is any indication:

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/b-c-girls-suicide-foreshadowed-video-204452577.html

Social media has increased the manner in which one can be bullied. This girl made a mistake when she was 12 years old and flashed a camera. The next few years of her life both online and in school were absolutely horrifying, and my life experiences paled in comparison to her own. People keep asking, "where were her parents in all this?" You think the fact that she switched schools THREE times indicates that her parents were doing what they could, but the sad fact of the matter is, bullying is still running rampant, and little to nothing seems to be getting done about it. Then you get kids who get bullied horrifically, and when they FINALLY stand up for themselves and hit back, THEY are the ones who get in trouble.

Zero tolerance certainly doesn't seem to be working if the above news article and video are any indication. My major question is... why was the man who posted the pic up in the first place not charged with distribution of child porn? Were the little fuckers who beat her up not charged? And why do the schools say "Zero Tolerance", and yet IGNORE the bullying and attack the victim when they try to retaliate?

There simply isn't enough being done. I'm sorry, but when a girl drinks BLEACH to try to end her life, and then has people posting on facebook pictures of Javex and telling her to try different brands so she 'gets it right the next time', that should be get the little shit BANNED from facebook, and EXPELLED from the girl's school!

I don't know if anyone agrees with me here or not, but all I know is that this triggers me. Hardcore. I can't say I know how she felt because I haven't been bullied to the horrific extent she was, but I WAS a victim nonetheless. And if I had been anywhere in her area, if I had been capable of doing so, I would have wrapped that poor girl up in my arms and given her the comfort she so desperately needed in her time of crisis.

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Re: Bullying
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2012, 04:58:07 pm »
As the son of a teacher, I got my ass handed to me routinely.  A 26-on-1 stomping in high school (my first one, of three) comes to mind... and the one time I tell the local rent-a-cop that I'm considering bringing a weapon with me to defend myself because I'm tired of getting beaten down and having the school do nothing? I'm the one that gets suspended.

My dad finally stepped in and went to the principal, who he went to school with himself years ago.  Dad only had to say one thing:  "You do something, or *I* do something.  And you won't like what I do about it.  Do your motherfucking job, or I'll do it for you."


13 kids expelled, another half dozen suspended for two months.  Yeah.  Shows how far I had to go with it, even with my dad backing me.
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Re: Bullying
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2012, 06:45:05 pm »
And that shouldn't happen.  Ever.  But it does.  Because schools have become so handicapped as lawsuit happy parents enter their kids into school.  So they enact zero tolerance policies that do nothing in the hopes the problem will just...go away.  But it doesn't.  The little shits start getting more and more bold and eventually start thinking nothing can touch them.  Until the day their victim says enough, brings a gun to school, and lets loose a hail of bullets.  It's tragic, it's sad, and it is...inevitable if we continue down this path.  The best way to get this to stop is to stop glorifying bullies in the media and teach kids there are real consequences to their actions.  They are not special little snowflakes who can do no wrong, they are bullies.  If they want to pick on kids so they get a reaction, the reaction won't be the one they want.

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Re: Bullying
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2012, 08:15:35 pm »
I say bring the police in in the first instance of bullying, straight away and take them down. Fuck your childs innocence and the concept schoolyard antics, fuck the concept of child "not being able to hurt a fly". Show the kids what will happen if they continue bullying, show them a video or a picture of dead schoolkids from one kid that said "enough".

Or, take the alternate path, if you know your child is being bullied, teach him how to manipulate the bullies, get them expelled if other options arent feasible. Bullies are stupid little tools, so might as well mess with their heads and manipulate their dumbfuckery into getting kick out.

Is it too obvious that I don't like bullies? :P
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Re: Bullying
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2012, 10:30:52 pm »
As Johnny the Homicidal Maniac once said (paraphrased): How many times do we admit that the victims may have had a hand in creating their killer?
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Re: Bullying
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2012, 11:41:06 pm »
As the son of a teacher, I got my ass handed to me routinely.  A 26-on-1 stomping in high school (my first one, of three) comes to mind... and the one time I tell the local rent-a-cop that I'm considering bringing a weapon with me to defend myself because I'm tired of getting beaten down and having the school do nothing? I'm the one that gets suspended.

My dad finally stepped in and went to the principal, who he went to school with himself years ago.  Dad only had to say one thing:  "You do something, or *I* do something.  And you won't like what I do about it.  Do your motherfucking job, or I'll do it for you."


13 kids expelled, another half dozen suspended for two months.  Yeah.  Shows how far I had to go with it, even with my dad backing me.

Go dad!

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Re: Bullying
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2012, 02:49:32 am »
oh, it got to the point where I was seriously considering just carrying a 12 pound sledgehammer in with me.  If they asked or bitched, my answer would have been "well, you can't protect me, so I'LL protect me!"
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Re: Bullying
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2012, 02:53:22 am »
I used to be bullied, usually by a guy named Joseph Stubbs in Middle School. He would trip me, push me, spit on me, and for nothing. I will always remember their names, especially his.

Well, until High School, when they ceased giving me their names, and instead opted to make fun of my temporary phobia of inflated balloons and other things. Two of them would often ambush me as I came to school and left. How I hated them. How I would've liked to kill them.

After a while, that became my mindset. I hated them. Because they got in my way for little or no reason, and ran away rather than instigating a school yard fight. They humiliated me and destroyed my ego to such a degree I retreated into my room for most of the day.

College, thankfully, has no bullies. I am grateful for that. I will not miss their activities nor their bragging and rumor spreading, or their tempting my nature out. I do not like looking unhinged or violent. Because, unless its forced out, I'm not that way. I'm not that bad a guy.
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Re: Bullying
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2012, 05:19:05 am »
It's tragic, it's sad, and it is...inevitable if we continue down this path.  The best way to get this to stop is to stop glorifying bullies in the media and teach kids there are real consequences to their actions.  They are not special little snowflakes who can do no wrong, they are bullies.  If they want to pick on kids so they get a reaction, the reaction won't be the one they want.

Fucking right on the money here, and I'll tell you why.

The kids who become bullies are often the ones who have problems at home and/or not raised right by the parents.  They don't teach their kids to be polite and, you know, not attack people.  Or worse, they live in a home where verbal and/or physical abuse are the norm, so they have no proper frame of reference as to how to behave properly in school and in public.

On the other side, schools clamp down on self-defense, so the kids who are being bullied are forced to turn to a school administration who either can't or won't help them.

It used to be (at least when I was young, I was born in 1979) that "bullying" meant that you would occasionally get into scrapes with the neighbor's kids or your schoolmates, and they would sometimes involve physical violence.  The sort of persistent, systematic (and computer-enabled) bullying seen here is a bit new to me.  They are often more interested in attacking a person's reputation than physically harming anyone.  It is also much harder to defend against it.
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Re: Bullying
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2012, 06:20:12 am »
And I dare say that attacking someone's reputation is more harmful than attacking their body.

I mean, sure, you could kill someone by attacking them, but... reputation damage lasts for a long time, takes a lot longer to heal (sometimes never) and it can persist even beyond death (though you're not exactly in a state to care about it, which is why suicide becomes an attractive option sometimes...)
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Re: Bullying
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2012, 01:17:42 pm »
I've experienced bullying since I was in grade school and while high school is a bit better. (last year was the worst year and 8th grade was a living hell that I would not want to repeat for all the money in the fucking world and the worst 3rd grade were i was not only bullied by students but the fucking teacher who encouraged it.) Its also bullying that made me until i was about 16 partially suicidal I hate bullying and I hate bullies and I hate people who try to defend bullies!
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Re: Bullying
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2012, 05:28:38 pm »
http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/tormenters-target-b-c-teen-amanda-todd-s-online-memorials-1.994594

ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What the FUCK is the matter with people?! She's DEAD!!!! WHY DO YOU STILL HAVE TO FUCKING TORMENT HER?!?! Do you self-righteous little FUCKERS have ANY REGARD FOR HER FAMILY'S FEELINGS?! I hope the police fucking well hunt you down and BEAT YOU DOWN AND LOCK YOU AWAY!!!!!

I don't give a flying FUCK what she did before her death! You little bastards are celebrating it, and there's even rumors that you're going to a PARTY THIS WEEKEND TO CELEBRATE HER SUICIDE!!!!

FUCK YOU ALL YOU LITTLE FUCKERS!!!!

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Re: Bullying
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2012, 05:35:33 pm »
Because this is what the new generation of bullies do.  They torment past death.  They love it.  It gives them attention from other fuckwits who want to do shit like this but don't want to risk disapproval.  And when called to the carpet for their actions, they just cite freedom of speech.

Ironbite-wonder how free they'll be if someone tracked them down and then beat them into the carpet.

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Re: Bullying
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2012, 05:46:43 pm »
There is only one word to describe people like this.

Pathetic.

Nothing more needs to be said about them.
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Re: Bullying
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2012, 07:17:04 pm »
There is only one word to describe people like this.

Pathetic.

Nothing more needs to be said about them.

Nonono, pathetic is kind.  Pathetic makes them pitiable and worthy of attention.  They are not pathetic, they're scum.  They do not deserve pity, these monsters do not deserve kindness.  They deserve to have their asses beaten into the ground like they do to their victims.  Let them experience the sheer terror they evoke in others, then...then, they will understand.  Then, they will stop.

If there is one type of person I don't have a shred of pity, mercy, or even basic concern for, its bullies.  No sympathy, no mercy, no pity.  Ever.
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