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Re: Bullying
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2012, 08:41:59 pm »
With me the word is "Evil".  Disgusting.

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Re: Bullying
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2012, 09:00:30 pm »
I prefer "badonger".


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Re: Bullying
« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2012, 02:29:42 am »
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Re: Bullying
« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2012, 02:35:39 am »
Let me clarify.

When I mean "pathetic", I don't mean "pitiable".  They're pathetic.  And I say that with as much venom as I can muster.

These are mere worms, wriggling about looking for the most basic form of attention, thinking themselves so superior to other people.

They're not even worth calling evil.  They're just not.

They're worth stopping, because of the harm they cause, but to call them "evil" is complimenting them.  I don't have nearly enough faith in them as people to compliment them.

So when I mean "pathetic", I mean this as the worst insult I can possibly muster.
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Re: Bullying
« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2012, 03:39:04 am »
It's funny how this sort of things always goes. Every month or so, one particular case of bullying makes the news and goes viral. Outraged people everywhere rush to their keyboards to demand justice and sweeping reforms to prevent this from ever happening again, for at least a week or so. Then everyone loses interest until the next big story tugs the internet's collective heartstrings and the cycle repeats.

It happens on every forum I frequent pretty much in unison. I imagine there's a good psychology paper in there somewhere.

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Re: Bullying
« Reply #20 on: October 14, 2012, 06:12:49 am »
The real problem is there isn't a solution to it.

It's not a lack of empathy, it's not an excess of aggression, and it's certainly not a lack of understanding what they could wind up doing. There will always be at least one twisted little fuck who wants to make others suffer. Now they have access to the internet and can cause problems for everyone. There are some exceptions, people with the slightest redeemable qualities, but not as many as one would hope.

I say this as someone who also went through plenty of bullying and solved the problem with a number of people. Some of them where decent people who hung out with idiots, others I simply found ways to complicate their lives until they didn't have time to harass me. Which I have to say some of these twisted little fucks will make very easy for you, habitual drug use, multiple 'girlfriends', assumptions of invincibility. It's just a matter of finding the holes you can Huck a wrench into and run. The entire 'ruling clique' of my school fell in on itself after enough of them heard what the others said behind their backs. It was fun to watch, resulted in an utterly epic fight by high school standards too.

That all said, nothing anyone ever says to, about or near you is worth killing yourself over. Fucking up your own life I can see killing yourself over, but I wouldn't give these pricks the pleasure. I wish there was some way to point out to these kids how inconsequential anything but what you learn in school is going to be after you graduate. Dealing with pricks is a damn useful skill too.
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Re: Bullying
« Reply #21 on: October 14, 2012, 09:57:02 am »
Even if we can never eliminate bullies, schools are partially at fault for their treatment of the situation. Some schools brush it off when a student tells an administrator about it, and it only gets worse from there. Some of them are complete morons about self-defense, as well. There's a partial solution in there somewhere if schools would reach out and pay attention to the victims.
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Re: Bullying
« Reply #22 on: October 14, 2012, 02:46:27 pm »
I am very, very tempted to pay a visit to that party. And not a peaceful visit either.
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Re: Bullying
« Reply #23 on: October 14, 2012, 03:11:22 pm »
I am very, very tempted to pay a visit to that party. And not a peaceful visit either.

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Re: Bullying
« Reply #24 on: October 14, 2012, 07:34:07 pm »
I am very, very tempted to pay a visit to that party. And not a peaceful visit either.
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Re: Bullying
« Reply #25 on: October 14, 2012, 07:51:43 pm »
When I had enough of my bully in the 7th grade, I took my week suspension as the cost of doing business. Have enough of him, break his nose and have him pissing blood for two days, take my week vacation, write my "apology letter" (I'm sorry you made me do this, I'm sorry it took me 7 years to do it, I'm sorry the damage wasn't worse, I'm hoping you realize I can do this again if I have to...). Everything has reactions. And I always figured my suspension was the reaction for standing up for myself.

Side note, the kid backed way off everyone. We became friendly over the years, we still email every now and again.
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Re: Bullying
« Reply #26 on: October 14, 2012, 07:56:33 pm »
I just backed one of mine against a corner, and told him that if he ever got the balls to fuck with me again, I'd gut him and hang him with his own entrails.

This was in 4th grade, by the way.

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Re: Bullying
« Reply #27 on: October 14, 2012, 09:15:36 pm »
My nephew has been getting bullied this year. In the first week, one child deliberately PEED on him in the bathroom. The teachers just sort of laughed it off and had my sister come to the school with a change of clothes for him.

Then a couple of weeks ago, a boy who is in the fifth grade beat him up. My nephew is in the second grade, but because he couldn't identify the other student by NAME, the teachers told him there was nothing they could do about it. Um... no. When I was beaten up and didn't know the girl's name, the school handed me a large binder with photo's of every student in the school and let me look through it until I saw the girl who had done it!

My sister is already about to go apeshit on the school. I'm beginning to think their "Zero Tolerance" policy REALLY means "Shhhh.... don't tell anybody... you'll make our school look bad!"

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Re: Bullying
« Reply #28 on: October 14, 2012, 09:25:14 pm »
That's generally what zero tolerance policies seem to be: zero tolerance of bad publicity.

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Re: Bullying
« Reply #29 on: October 14, 2012, 10:16:28 pm »
That's generally what zero tolerance policies seem to be: zero tolerance of bad publicity.

Zero tolerance policies don't exist to actually solve problems.  They exist to maintain a culture of silence (thus avoiding negative publicity for the school and parents of the involved students), and avoid having to grant involved students anything resembling due process by simply punishing all people involved in an altercation, while still making it appear as if the school administration is doing something.

Unfortunately, it also creates a classic case of unintended consequences.  A student being bullied (or involved with drugs, etc.) who needs help cannot simply go to the authorities for fear of punishment and further humiliation.  So he is forced to either A) accept his situation (usually to the detriment of his mental & physical health), B) become a vigilante, or C) get someone else to fix the problem for him (e.g. an older sibling, local gang leader, etc.)

So the schools have managed to inculcate, indirectly, both a distrust of authority and a belief that violence and revenge are the only solution to a problem.
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