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I think you should stop, Ignored. It was quite civil and you were pointing out good things before, but you and the correspondence is starting to delve into just tit for tat. That said, they are already there and you just have the appearance of it.
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Science does not deal with unknown and unknowable entities.

That's not strictly true, is it? 

Atheistic science is always striving to find "natural" explanations at the expense of God, even where the explanations they come up with are self-contradictory and absurd.
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Science does not deal with unknown and unknowable entities.

That's not strictly true, is it? 

Atheistic science is always striving to find "natural" explanations at the expense of God, even where the explanations they come up with are self-contradictory and absurd.

Actually, it is strictly true. Science deals in the natural; if they find a natural explanation for something that works consistently, then by definition, it's a natural phenomenon. If God is so weak that he can be defeated by mere mortals using their minds, that puts him on about the same level as Frankenstein.
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Below Frankenstein actually.

Ironbite-that took fire and pitchforks.

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If by "at the expense of god" you mean "at the exense of explanations that have not been or cannot be objectively varified and have little or no predictive power," then yes, that is what science does.

I'm interested in what scientific theories you think are contradictory.

As for being absurd, that's highly subjective. To me, your religious myths are absurd. On the other hand, quantum mechanics is very counter-intuitive, even absurd, but it is repeatedly verified and has a lot of predictive power, so I believe it dispite its apparent strangeness.

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Science aside, my argument against Creationism is always the same.  Why do Creationists, who claim they want the 'the whole story,' immediately say, "God did it?"  What about the Hindu story of creation?  What about the Native American tales?  What about aliens or meteorites (which count as outside influences)?  What makes God and the Bible more real than any other religion and its holy books?
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Science does not deal with unknown and unknowable entities.

That's not strictly true, is it?
Well if it worked in supernatural terms it wouldn't be science, now would it?

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What makes God and the Bible more real than any other religion and its holy books?

This part especially.
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Original quote.

Atheistic science is always striving to find "natural" explanations at the expense of God, even where the explanations they come up with are self-contradictory and absurd.

Science is always striving to find natural explanations. God damn those durdy scientistic ratfinks and their sciency science!!!

What I read.

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Science does not deal with unknown and unknowable entities.

That's not strictly true, is it? 

Atheistic science is always striving to find "natural" explanations at the expense of God, even where the explanations they come up with are self-contradictory and absurd.
Kind of like the absurd explanations creationists come up with for the observation of the fact that we can see stars from further away than the biblical age of the universe allows?

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Science does not deal with unknown and unknowable entities.

That's not strictly true, is it? 

Atheistic science is always striving to find "natural" explanations at the expense of God, even where the explanations they come up with are self-contradictory and absurd.

Actually, it is strictly true. Science deals in the natural; if they find a natural explanation for something that works consistently, then by definition, it's a natural phenomenon. If God is so weak that he can be defeated by mere mortals using their minds, that puts him on about the same level as Frankenstein.

Uh, the real Frankstein wasn't a real monster and was killed out of the fear of man and the unknown than anything else, along with the ambition of man being too great.
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Science does not deal with unknown and unknowable entities.

That's not strictly true, is it? 

Atheistic science is always striving to find "natural" explanations at the expense of God, even where the explanations they come up with are self-contradictory and absurd.

Actually, it is strictly true. Science deals in the natural; if they find a natural explanation for something that works consistently, then by definition, it's a natural phenomenon. If God is so weak that he can be defeated by mere mortals using their minds, that puts him on about the same level as Frankenstein.

Uh, the real Frankstein wasn't a real monster and was killed out of the fear of man and the unknown than anything else, along with the ambition of man being too great.

I was referring to the doctor, not the creature.
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Right, right. Yeah, he was kind of an ass.
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even where the explanations they come up with are self-contradictory and absurd.

Would you like to show us one?
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