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Spanish privacy attorney Carlos Snchez Almeida, who's based in Barcelona, said the takedown may have violated people's privacy rights under Spanish law. Accordingly, he's threatened to file suit over the Megaupload takedown. On his Jaque Perpetuo blog, Almeida wrote Friday that "Spanish citizens who had accounts in Megaupload should collect as much information about the files that they had hosted, for the purposes of a possible claim" against the U.S. government. In particular, the U.S. government's actions may conflict with Spanish data-access and privacy laws, especially if U.S. authorities begin accessing data that was stored by Megaupload.

source - http://informationweek.com/news/security/client/232500305

I bet the Feds didn't take this into account when they did this.  I wonder should Spain actually file a lawsuit, will other countries join them?
This might of just opened up a giant can of worms that won't end well for the US once everything is said and done.
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Re: Spain looking at possibly sueing US Govt over MegaUpload takedown
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2012, 04:21:24 pm »
Last time there was a multi-national takedown people got mad and it violated laws. I didn't expect it would happen again. Interesting development.

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Re: Spain looking at possibly sueing US Govt over MegaUpload takedown
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2012, 05:36:19 pm »
See, this is another aspect of what I was talking about in the other thread.  When the US government starts going after people all around the globe, it becomes an enormous cluster fuck.  This thing is going to get nastier and nastier the further they get into it because not every country has the same laws the US does.  Nor are they all going to be willing to participate with or even co-operate with the US government in dealing with this if it is in opposition to their own laws. 
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Re: Spain looking at possibly sueing US Govt over MegaUpload takedown
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2012, 05:43:30 pm »
Sánchez Almeida is saying Spanish citizens (who had something stored in Megaupload) might be able to sue, not Spain itself.
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Re: Spain looking at possibly sueing US Govt over MegaUpload takedown
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2012, 06:30:01 pm »
OH SNAP!

Ironbite-bet they didn't see this coming.

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Re: Spain looking at possibly sueing US Govt over MegaUpload takedown
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2012, 09:25:30 pm »
Sánchez Almeida is saying Spanish citizens (who had something stored in Megaupload) might be able to sue, not Spain itself.

Damn.  If the actual nation sued, they'd have a chance of stopping this madness.

The individuals in question don't have deep enough pockets to win in court, and would stand to lose quite a lot even in an out-of-court settlement.
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Re: Spain looking at possibly sueing US Govt over MegaUpload takedown
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2012, 11:43:40 pm »
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I'm glad someone in this, especially a country, has the balls to stand up and bitch slap the US government for overstepping bullshit
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Re: Spain looking at possibly sueing US Govt over MegaUpload takedown
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2012, 12:22:52 am »
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Re: Spain looking at possibly sueing US Govt over MegaUpload takedown
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2012, 03:30:58 am »
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In a leaked letter sent to Spain’s outgoing President, the US ambassador to the country warned that as punishment for not passing a SOPA-style file-sharing site blocking law, Spain risked being put on a United States trade blacklist . Inclusion would have left Spain open to a range of “retaliatory options” but already the US was working with the incoming government to reach its goals.

Someone needs to send a truckload of chill pills to the Feds
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Re: Spain looking at possibly sueing US Govt over MegaUpload takedown
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2012, 05:47:05 am »
Doesn't sound to me like Spain actually has a case here. The laws violated were Spanish laws, not international. Megaupload is not a Spanish site, nor is it owned by Spanish citizen(s). In my (rather limited, admittedly) knowledge of law, it just looks more like a "fuck you, you dickhead" from the Spaniards than a serious legal challenge.

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Re: Spain looking at possibly sueing US Govt over MegaUpload takedown
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2012, 01:10:22 pm »
MegaUpload may not be Spanish, but its takedown affected Spanish citizens adversely, not just in a "denied service" sense, but in a "stolen information" sense.  Imagine if there was a global bank, and the USA shut it down... and in doing so, denied citizens in other countries the money they had stored in that bank.

And now the the USA is threatening Spain...

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Re: Spain looking at possibly sueing US Govt over MegaUpload takedown
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2012, 07:06:17 pm »
MegaUpload isn't Spanish or American. It was started by a musical artist from Hong Kong. America had no business taking it down to begin with, seeing as the owners 1) aren't American citizens and 2) were not consciously complicit in any piracy that occurred. If a guy owns a club where people get away with distributing drugs without his knowledge, do you arrest the club owner?
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Re: Spain looking at possibly sueing US Govt over MegaUpload takedown
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2012, 07:34:52 pm »
MegaUpload isn't Spanish or American. It was started by a musical artist from Hong Kong. America had no business taking it down to begin with, seeing as the owners 1) aren't American citizens and 2) were not consciously complicit in any piracy that occurred. If a guy owns a club where people get away with distributing drugs without his knowledge, do you arrest the club owner?

Their claim is that the owners WERE complicit.
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Re: Spain looking at possibly sueing US Govt over MegaUpload takedown
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2012, 07:57:34 pm »
MegaUpload isn't Spanish or American. It was started by a musical artist from Hong Kong. America had no business taking it down to begin with, seeing as the owners 1) aren't American citizens and 2) were not consciously complicit in any piracy that occurred. If a guy owns a club where people get away with distributing drugs without his knowledge, do you arrest the club owner?

Their claim is that the owners WERE complicit.

And there's some very incriminating internal e-mails saying they were.

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Re: Spain looking at possibly sueing US Govt over MegaUpload takedown
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2012, 08:15:19 pm »
And it was an international effort, involving law enforcement from numerous jurisdictions including Hong Kong.
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