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« Reply #8625 on: September 21, 2016, 08:36:31 pm »
One of these days I want to show some Tumblrinas this book just to see the exploding heads.
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« Reply #8626 on: September 21, 2016, 08:38:10 pm »
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« Reply #8627 on: September 21, 2016, 09:31:08 pm »
Not sure, but if it's good enough to make tumblrinas heads explode, as long as its well written I'm fir it.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #8628 on: September 22, 2016, 02:29:52 am »
The reason their heads would explode isn't the content; it's the title: Nègres blancs d'Amérique.

The book itself was written by an FLQ member while he was in jail in (I believe) New York.
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Being required by someone else’s religious beliefs to behave contrary to one’s sexual identity is degrading and disrespectful.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #8629 on: September 22, 2016, 02:56:58 am »
Or you could stop being a hipster and show them the English name of the book: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Niggers_of_America
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #8630 on: October 06, 2016, 10:48:43 am »
How the fuck do Bisexual people oppress gays? Last I checked I run just the same chance of getting my ass handed too me by some homophobe if I hit on them as much as a gay person. Also it's not really a heterosexual privilege since were you'know not heterosexual I mean it's in our fucking orientation name Bi means two we don't just decide to be gay one day and then straight the next that's not how that shit works.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #8631 on: October 06, 2016, 11:21:17 am »
L and G people are really stupid.  I guess they forget about B and T when time comes.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #8632 on: October 06, 2016, 09:42:57 pm »
I'm gonna put "lateral aggression" on a brick and toss it into their window

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #8633 on: October 07, 2016, 12:59:05 am »
So far the only complaint about bisexuals and transpeople that I have seen make sense is that if they get into a relationship they might not be recognized as bi/trans by others and therefore they will not suffer as much discrimination as gay/lesbian couples do.

...Which is still a shitty thing to complain about but at least it has some logic in it.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #8634 on: October 07, 2016, 01:08:35 am »
So far the only complaint about bisexuals and transpeople that I have seen make sense is that if they get into a relationship they might not be recognized as bi/trans by others and therefore they will not suffer as much discrimination as gay/lesbian couples do.

...Which is still a shitty thing to complain about but at least it has some logic in it.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #8635 on: October 11, 2016, 05:58:22 am »
So far the only complaint about bisexuals and transpeople that I have seen make sense is that if they get into a relationship they might not be recognized as bi/trans by others and therefore they will not suffer as much discrimination as gay/lesbian couples do.

...Which is still a shitty thing to complain about but at least it has some logic in it.

That is something that's been on my mind lately.

I'm bi and my girlfriend is trans (she has been 2 years into HRT at this point with SRS scheduled for October 27; there's no way anyone is going to recognize her as trans), and honestly when we're at LGBT events together it is likely we wouldn't be recognized as LGBT. Most of the groups here are pretty laid back, but I still wonder if someone is going to object. With some of the more extreme ones, there may be accusations of "You turned traitor and went straight/are trying to be cis" leveled at us.

On a similar note, I know there are groups out there for significant others of trans people, but I know I wouldn't really fit in among them even if I did have any interest in going to them. The majority of these are going to be women struggling with MTF spouses transitioning on them, and I'd likely have to deal with questions like "So who's husband did you steal?" etc.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #8637 on: October 24, 2016, 04:22:28 am »
One of the problems with SJW vs anti-SJW debates is that people use the same terms to mean different things.

[Racism = Power + Prejudice] is a commonly used example. Except that not many people know of that, just last week I talked with a few buddies about this and they had not heard that definition. They only knew that SJWs like to claim that only white people can be racist but never explain why. After explaining that this is the definition they use we agreed that it kinda makes sense but trying to rebrand the meaning of the word racism is silly and prone to misunderstandings.

Another example is one I saw on FB used by a racist. He said that Racism can only be done by governments and countries [such as Apartheid or other examples of institutional racism], individuals may be prejudiced but as they only represent themselves they are not in fact "racist" and even if they commit racially motivated crimes these crimes are not an example of racism (as previously defined.) In other words, this person defined Racism as what everyone else would call institutional racism.

Then when these two definitions of racism collide we get debates where one person is screaming that white people who say "kill all niggers" are racist but black people who say "kill all sperm-faces" are not and another person screaming that none of the examples that a member of minority told from their life counts as racism and that there is no racism in the country...

And it's not that either of them is necessarily wrong based on their definition of the word racism but they are in fact talking about different things and neither of them explains this to the other.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #8638 on: October 24, 2016, 05:08:33 am »
Basically, if people would just say "institutional/cultural racism" instead of insisting that we redefine "racism" to mean one of the former, we may actually get somewhere. But why resort to intellectual honesty when you can erase any opposing arguments through the power of semantics instead?

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #8639 on: October 24, 2016, 05:38:22 am »
Depends what you want to do really. If you just want to get attention it'll work.

But as I suggested that works just as well for the ideologically polar opposite team on planet alt-right with exactly the same shirt.