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Decapitated corpse found, police suspect suicide.
« on: September 19, 2013, 10:50:53 am »
http://www.krmg.com/news/news/local/man-found-decapitated-police-suspect-suicide/nYNZh/?nmredir=true

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Police say a woman who lives in the home found her husband dead in the garage.

His hands and feet were tied and the body had been decapitated.

Tulsa police told KRMG news the death was due to suicide.

Cops gave no other details at the time but continue to investigate the matter.

Emphasis mine.

Well I suppose it could be some complicated scheme to get insurance money for his family.

Or an extreme practical joke.

Still sounds suspicious but I am going to assume that the police aren't incompetent enough to claim this a suicide unless they have some impressive evidence to back it up. And I don't know enough of the local police department to claim that they are corrupt and involved with this. (Which would again bring up the question of why frame something like this as a suicide when more plausible methods would do the trick.)

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Question? Did he dcapitate himself first before he tied himself up or after. Dont see it being a suicide. but I guess anything could happen in some cases. but not likely.
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Re: Decapitated corpse found, police suspect suicide.
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2013, 10:57:23 am »
Could be an assisted suicide

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Re: Decapitated corpse found, police suspect suicide.
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2013, 11:22:01 am »
Unless he setup some Rube Goldberg apparatus to decapitate himself after he tied himself up, then I highly doubt this was suicide.
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Re: Decapitated corpse found, police suspect suicide.
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2013, 11:37:37 am »
"Home city, I am disappoint." ... Is what I would say if I actually had higher expectations. I must have missed this on the local news, but that's probably because I rarely watch it.

 In other local news, yesterday a dead, rotting, body was recently found in a field right in front of a highschool. The police couldn't determine if it was male or female, and weren't sure if it might be a murder or someone who died naturally while walking through the field. Because the latter happens so often.
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Re: Decapitated corpse found, police suspect suicide.
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2013, 12:46:36 pm »
"Home city, I am disappoint." ... Is what I would say if I actually had higher expectations. I must have missed this on the local news, but that's probably because I rarely watch it.

 In other local news, yesterday a dead, rotting, body was recently found in a field right in front of a highschool. The police couldn't determine if it was male or female, and weren't sure if it might be a murder or someone who died naturally while walking through the field. Because the latter happens so often.

At least the latter sounds halfway plausible; you could have a ticking time-bomb of an aneurism in your head that just goes off while you're walking and your blood pressure goes a little too high a little too quick.  Tying yourself up whilst already decapitated, or decapitating yourself whilst tied up is a -little- less plausible.
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Re: Decapitated corpse found, police suspect suicide.
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2013, 01:07:55 pm »
The only way I can imagine this was a suicide was if he hung himself with ultra thin sharp garrote wire or rigged up a guillotine-like device, or strapped a grenade to the back of his neck. In any case, his hands had to be tied so as to allow him to trigger a device or set a wire noose. The means of tying his hands would almost have to be plastic zip ties, pulled taut by his teeth. Perhaps, if the suicide theory is correct, he did this to keep himself from halting the process in panic. Murder or suicide, this is super creepy.

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Re: Decapitated corpse found, police suspect suicide.
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2013, 01:56:22 pm »
Apparently decapitation as a result of hanging is rare, but it has happened before: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1556-4029.12001/pdf (warning, there are graphic images of decapitated and/or hanging corpses at that link)
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Re: Decapitated corpse found, police suspect suicide.
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2013, 02:26:17 pm »
Apparently decapitation as a result of hanging is rare, but it has happened before: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1556-4029.12001/pdf (warning, there are graphic images of decapitated and/or hanging corpses at that link)

Plausible theory...but the guy's hands were tied.

Something fishy is going on. Either the cops are super-stupid or they're in on it....or maybe the wife. I don't know. One needs to know the full details.

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Re: Decapitated corpse found, police suspect suicide.
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2013, 02:33:17 pm »
As for assist well he had someone bind the hands and feet to ensure no reactions to the man decapitating him

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Re: Decapitated corpse found, police suspect suicide.
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2013, 02:42:34 pm »
I'm remembering one case where the police claim this one guy shot himself with a gun they had left in the police car after arresting him for supposedly having drugs.

A few problems with that.  One, the guy's hands were handcuffed behind his back.  Two, the bullet entry wound was in his front.  Three, what the fuck were they doing leaving a gun in the BACK OF THE CAR?

That being said, I wish the police weren't so quick to rule this off as a suicide, at least not without presenting some really good evidence.  If his arms and legs were tied, I suspect foul play and the police should, too.
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Re: Decapitated corpse found, police suspect suicide.
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2013, 03:18:18 pm »
That being said, I wish the police weren't so quick to rule this off as a suicide, at least not without presenting some really good evidence.  If his arms and legs were tied, I suspect foul play and the police should, too.

Do remember that all we know is a couple of sentences from a news bit, while the police are actually there, with first-hand access to the evidence. They could be complete idiots/covering something up, those are certainly things that happen. But they could also be halfway competent at their jobs and know things we don't that strongly point towards suicide, and that seems a priori far more likely. I don't think we have enough information to say anything about what the police have or haven't suspected or what they have good evidence for.
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Re: Decapitated corpse found, police suspect suicide.
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2013, 03:35:41 pm »
That being said, I wish the police weren't so quick to rule this off as a suicide, at least not without presenting some really good evidence.  If his arms and legs were tied, I suspect foul play and the police should, too.

Do remember that all we know is a couple of sentences from a news bit, while the police are actually there, with first-hand access to the evidence. They could be complete idiots/covering something up, those are certainly things that happen. But they could also be halfway competent at their jobs and know things we don't that strongly point towards suicide, and that seems a priori far more likely. I don't think we have enough information to say anything about what the police have or haven't suspected or what they have good evidence for.
That was my assesment as well. If this is a poor cover up (REALLY POOR COVER UP!) they will get caught easily. If this on the other hand IS a suicide, though cleverly made not to appear as one, then they must have evidence to back it up.

The news story merely has a few lines and is of course written to make it sound outrageous because that is a good story that sells papers. (Or would if it wasn't for free in the web version. Get's advertising money from page hits?)
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Re: Decapitated corpse found, police suspect suicide.
« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2013, 01:43:09 pm »
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The news story merely has a few lines and is of course written to make it sound outrageous because that is a good story that sells papers. (Or would if it wasn't for free in the web version. Get's advertising money from page hits?)

Yup. "If it bleeds, it leads"...to mucho page hits=more advert commissions.
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Re: Decapitated corpse found, police suspect suicide.
« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2013, 02:40:48 am »
Well, this is Oklahoma. Home state of the police force who claimed a man spontaneously combusted.