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Re: "Frozen" Racism Controversy: Seriously?
« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2014, 12:29:41 am »
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Re: "Frozen" Racism Controversy: Seriously?
« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2014, 12:30:13 am »
This whole thing reminds me of the Speedy Gonzales controversy, except somehow even dumber.

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Re: "Frozen" Racism Controversy: Seriously?
« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2014, 12:58:56 am »
I might be racist, but I really don't like the term POC being used to describe the Sami. I mean some Sami are darker skinned than others but using the term POC in particular seems a bit odd.

It just creates this image that only people who aren't "white" face discrimination. If your group is concidered discriminated then you are automatically "POC" or reversely if you "look white" then you no one believes that you are really a victim of discrimination. And I don't even know where the limit goes on who is "white" and who is POC. Are asians POC? I mean I know that Asian countries have discrimination against certain ethnic/national groups. In China the Uyghur face racism but if the people opressing them aren't white does that even count?

OR maybe I'm just wrong.
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Re: "Frozen" Racism Controversy: Seriously?
« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2014, 01:39:31 am »
Its a little complicated I could get into it but its usually lighter skinned over darker skinned just in general even in conflicts between other non whites (North South Indians or Arabs over Africans)

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Re: "Frozen" Racism Controversy: Seriously?
« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2014, 01:51:38 am »
Colourism is definitely a thing, but it doesn't nullify discrimination faced by a light-skinned group of people.
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Re: "Frozen" Racism Controversy: Seriously?
« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2014, 02:21:24 am »
I know i said usually
Also often intraracial conflicts were either created or exasperated by external sources like Belgium giving power to Tutsis

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Re: "Frozen" Racism Controversy: Seriously?
« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2014, 05:10:38 am »
Someone on tumblr pointed out that there are actually darker skinned people visible in various parts of the movie, primarily during the coronation scene. They had screenshots to back them up.

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Re: "Frozen" Racism Controversy: Seriously?
« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2014, 10:14:13 pm »
This whole "controversy" is a microcosm of everything wrong with the Social Justice movement.  Claiming to speak on behalf of a particular group without getting their opinions?  Baseless accusations?  Pulling "facts" out of your ass?  You name it, it's here.

On the bright side, this whole debacle has produced pretty good fanart of the characters having different ethnicities.  I guess every dark cloud has a silver lining.
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Re: "Frozen" Racism Controversy: Seriously?
« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2014, 01:19:10 am »
On the Frozen fan art based on different ethnicities: The best of those I've seen was a Central Asian (or Asia-Russia) Frozen. Come on, Disney, you did this with The Princess and the Frog and that worked out greatly with a lot of people.

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Re: "Frozen" Racism Controversy: Seriously?
« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2014, 03:49:50 am »
I just figure what does it matter what skin colors characters in a Disney Kids Movie have. There are more important things to worry about.
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Re: "Frozen" Racism Controversy: Seriously?
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2014, 10:03:48 am »
Saw this on facebook this morning:



Cute, though not actually true. The Princess and the Frog had the princess saving the prince.

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Re: "Frozen" Racism Controversy: Seriously?
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2014, 11:02:05 am »
Everyone forgets that one including Disney
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Re: "Frozen" Racism Controversy: Seriously?
« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2014, 11:25:52 am »
The funny thing is, Disney already did a movie with the Circumpolar-Indigenous characters these morons desperately wanted to see:


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Re: "Frozen" Racism Controversy: Seriously?
« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2014, 11:42:02 am »
It's not about racism per se; it's about the fact that very few Disney films star POC.  When kids have over 100 films to choose from, and only 12 of them star people who aren't white, it can feel like "I'm not normal because I don't look like those people."

I had that same feeling with Barbie as a kid.  I felt like my brown hair and eyes were "ugly" because they didn't look ike my dolls.
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Re: "Frozen" Racism Controversy: Seriously?
« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2014, 01:26:29 pm »
Saw this on facebook this morning:

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Cute, though not actually true. The Princess and the Frog had the princess saving the prince.
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