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Offline MadCatTLX

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Re: #BringBackOurBoys
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2014, 03:21:50 pm »
I just saw on a TV in a doctors waiting room tuned to CNN that a Palestinian boy was found murdered and violence has broken out in Jerusalem.

Edit: The body was reportedly so mutilated that the police didn't want the parents to see it.
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Re: #BringBackOurBoys
« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2014, 04:36:29 pm »
The ride never ends. I'm sure this will end well for all involved.

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Re: #BringBackOurBoys
« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2014, 06:01:14 pm »
How stupid can these people be? Even the USA has better ethnic-relations than this! For all our ethnic turmoil, at least we're not fighting all out literal wars for "ownership" of the country! We seem to at least have some semblance of co-existence.

That's because we won our wars for control of the continent and herded the loosers onto reservations quite a while ago.

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« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2014, 06:04:07 pm »
How stupid can these people be? Even the USA has better ethnic-relations than this! For all our ethnic turmoil, at least we're not fighting all out literal wars for "ownership" of the country! We seem to at least have some semblance of co-existence.

That's because we won our wars for control of the continent and herded the loosers onto reservations quite a while ago.
In fairness, things are getting better for the Native Americans.  They're getting old claims recognized, they're allowed to operate casinos, and they're increasingly reasserting their rights and culture.  The rights of indigenous people are advancing just about everywhere.  I wouldn't be surprised if the same was true of the Palestinians in the near future.

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Re: #BringBackOurBoys
« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2014, 06:37:55 pm »
Define "near."

If Israel follows our examples, they still have to finish seizing everything they want first. Then they have to pacify the population, followed by attempting to erase any living memory of the culture (I think that was more of a Canadian than American thing), eventually they will come to accept them as humans with rights, which eventually leads to acknowledgement that they bare some responsibility for the situation they created at which point they accept them as a sovereign but subordinate people within their borders.

I'd say 150-200 years without outside influence.

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Re: #BringBackOurBoys
« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2014, 06:55:49 pm »
Define "near."

If Israel follows our examples, they still have to finish seizing everything they want first. Then they have to pacify the population, followed by attempting to erase any living memory of the culture (I think that was more of a Canadian than American thing), eventually they will come to accept them as humans with rights, which eventually leads to acknowledgement that they bare some responsibility for the situation they created at which point they accept them as a sovereign but subordinate people within their borders.

I'd say 150-200 years without outside influence.
Values are different now.  Besides, this time they have the international community breathing down their neck.

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Re: #BringBackOurBoys
« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2014, 07:24:34 pm »
Besides, this time they have the international community breathing down their neck.

Israel has always been pissing off the international community, but they don't care because the United States always steps in to give them aid and unconditional support. Maybe if we stopped giving foreign aid to Israel, they would start feeling the international pressure.
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Re: #BringBackOurBoys
« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2014, 07:32:49 pm »
Besides, this time they have the international community breathing down their neck.

Israel has always been pissing off the international community, but they don't care because the United States always steps in to give them aid and unconditional support. Maybe if we stopped giving foreign aid to Israel, they would start feeling the international pressure.
There's plenty of opposition to this within Israel.

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Re: #BringBackOurBoys
« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2014, 09:40:02 pm »
Besides, this time they have the international community breathing down their neck.

Israel has always been pissing off the international community, but they don't care because the United States always steps in to give them aid and unconditional support. Maybe if we stopped giving foreign aid to Israel, they would start feeling the international pressure.
There's plenty of opposition to this within Israel.

Well, at least there are sane Israelis & Palestinians.

There needs to be some sociological studies of various groups who are prone to joining fanatical religious groups (especially terrorist types). There are reasons why folks take up these belief systems & activities. If we can study this, then find a way to address the problem...the psychology...perhaps we can lower the rate of people falling for it & perhaps give better options or coping methods to replace it. Many join terrorist groups, hate groups, etc. due to stuff like misfortune, poverty, discontentment, uncertainty, etc. Address the root and perhaps progress will be made.

Also, moderate/liberal religious missionaries should come among these people to provide an alternative version of the people's faiths. Whatever your view on religion is...one must accept that it will be around for a long time in one form or another. For many, spiritual & religious faith provides comfort, meaning, coping tools & direction. Provide kinder, saner alternatives and hopefully lessen the frumminess. Non-frum Christians need to teach Christians...Non-frum Muslims, Muslims...Non-frum Jews, Jews...and so on.

True, I may be a bit idealistic but I'm certain if some folks gave it a try, it might help a bit.

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« Reply #24 on: July 02, 2014, 11:22:45 pm »
I think we give waaaay to much money to Israel.
Yes we should support them financially.
No, our financial support should not be 130 billion.

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Re: #BringBackOurBoys
« Reply #25 on: July 03, 2014, 04:02:56 am »
Besides, this time they have the international community breathing down their neck.

Israel has always been pissing off the international community, but they don't care because the United States always steps in to give them aid and unconditional support. Maybe if we stopped giving foreign aid to Israel, they would start feeling the international pressure.
There's plenty of opposition to this within Israel.

Which is strange, because there is none within the US Congress or media (or indeed in Australia).
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