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Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
« Reply #240 on: March 07, 2016, 06:12:22 am »
Go on stormfront, theres a few moderate nazis on there, but they tend to get chewed out really quick.

I'd much rather stay the fuck away from stormfront tbh

As dirty as it makes me feel I can't jump on UP for this one. Since WWII Nazis have become a virtual byword for extremism. Mostly because of the holocaust. Attempting genocide is a pretty extreme position. Unlike many who might claim to be moderate Nazis, the particular poster, appears to acknowledge that the holocaust occurred. Nor do they condemn it, in fact they implicitly endorse it.

I think its hard to consider yourself a moderate if you support the genocide of jews, gypsies and homosexuals in continental Europe.

But the moderate Nazis would say they didn't have anything to do with that -- that it was the violent extremists who went that far.

Surely you aren't implying a moderate majority with a questionable core ideology would sustain a culture that enables violent extremism.

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« Reply #241 on: March 07, 2016, 03:27:17 pm »
There probably were moderate Nazis, and they probably didn't know about the holocaust, thinking that the work camps were just that.

But moderates do not call themselves Nazis nowadays, unless they're holocaust deniers.

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Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
« Reply #242 on: March 07, 2016, 06:27:21 pm »
Calling yourself a moderate Nazi is just trying to put a pretty face on your Hitler fanboyism. Someone who really was a moderate would just call themselves a fascist.

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« Reply #243 on: March 08, 2016, 04:42:48 am »
Let's be honest. The Nazis managed to do SO MUCH stuff in few short years. Opposing tobacco, promoting moderate drinking, promoting animal rights, making bogus studies that claim homosexuality is an infectious disease, Hitler's well known vegetarianism... It wasn't all Hugo Boss clothes and death camps for the Nazis.

But as far as I know their actual politics in running a country and the economy sucked. They were populists and managed to get a cult following but even without the war they would have run Germany to the ground. Saying that you like their policies in moderation is silly because the actual politics for Nazis weren't that good.
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« Reply #244 on: March 08, 2016, 05:37:42 am »
Go on stormfront, theres a few moderate nazis on there, but they tend to get chewed out really quick.
Absolutely fascinated by this whole "moderate Nazi" thing. Does it range from the Leni Riefenstahl's through to the Heinrich Himmler's or is it a fashion thing with Bormann on the most moderate end of the scale and Hermann Göring out in the no fucks to give about moderate Aryan fashion Nazi end?
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« Reply #245 on: March 08, 2016, 06:15:05 am »
I've previously mentioned here that a friend of mine identifies as a Nazi and I think a moderate Nazi describes him pretty well. To put it shortly he is virulently anti-Semitic and flirts with holocaust denial but is otherwise socially fairly liberal and hates other kinds of racism - for example, he openly despises Soldiers of Odin. Also, he's openly bisexual and is apparently either in denial about the rampant homophobia among Nazis or thinks it is a distortion of the ideology. He keeps making different interpretations about the ideology to make it fit his world view and is in serious denial about Hitler's flaws. I think he does this at least partly to better troll people.

So, yeah. You can be a moderate Nazi as long as you are skilled in mental gymnastics.

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« Reply #246 on: March 08, 2016, 06:34:16 am »
What about the Russian Neo-Nazis who don't seem to understand that the original Nazis wouldn't have considered them Aryans or approved of their homosexuality?

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Much like the Malays, minor historical details like rampant persecution and horrific genocide have apparently been forgotten by the Russians. The first such group I came across were the Gay Union of Patriots of Russia, whose members spout bizarre theories about how only gay men can be true Russian patriots.
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Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
« Reply #248 on: March 08, 2016, 03:12:23 pm »
How are you defining Nazi?

In a literal sense the last few actual nazis, moderate or otherwise, are in their 90s and steadily dying out.

Back in't day you needed party membership to get into certain professions (or at least get past the entry level in your field), so yeah there were millions of people who joined for the perks.  They don't necessarily share the crazy.

But today? You can be an average garden variety stormfag, but you'll never be a nazi...


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« Reply #249 on: March 08, 2016, 04:26:35 pm »
No true Nazi?

In any case it's nothing to aspire to, if there is one thing I am happy about the whole Nazi gay skinhead thing is that it would infuriate original Nazis. Think about it a slav "untersmench" with a concentration camp hairdo wearing a Jamaican influenced outfit and bearing a crooked cross with two crossed cocks under it.

I hope the chucklefucks in the original NSDAP are spinning in their graves.

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Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
« Reply #250 on: March 08, 2016, 04:40:25 pm »
No true Nazi?

Hardly.  It's just that as a label it's pretty meaningless if you aren't using it within its' proper historical concept.

Not quite as annoying as people who refer to any and all authoritarian forms of government as Fascist, but it's up there.


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« Reply #251 on: March 08, 2016, 10:56:54 pm »
No true Nazi?

Hardly.  It's just that as a label it's pretty meaningless if you aren't using it within its' proper historical concept.

Not quite as annoying as people who refer to any and all authoritarian forms of government as Fascist, but it's up there.
I think people have been using "Nazi" to mean groups outside the defunct National Socialist German Workers' Party since that world war 2 thing wrapped up.

I suppose Nazi skins, Nazi bikers, Nazi prison gangs, Nazi posters on /pol and the American Nazi Party are neo Nazis but who the fuck cares? They dig swastikas, they hate anyone who isn't a straight, WASPish type with far right wing beliefs. Fuck 'em, they're Nazis.

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Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
« Reply #252 on: March 12, 2016, 09:40:24 am »
While we're talking about Nazis:

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« Reply #253 on: March 12, 2016, 02:04:16 pm »
You can tell that person is a bit suspicious when they describe a starving child as an "it"

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« Reply #254 on: March 12, 2016, 05:49:59 pm »
I'm not sure if the evidence was kept after the Nuremburg Tribunals, but it filled numerous freight train boxcars. That'd be a nice pile to plop holocaust deniers upon. Tons and tons worth of documents, photos, reports, records and ledgers compiled by Wehrmacht clerks counting the people, their personal items, and gross weight categories of valuable materials taken from camp victims. That'd be an actual Slippery Slope, trying to make you way down off a 50 foot tall pile of loose documents.
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