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Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
« Reply #600 on: July 26, 2016, 06:08:23 pm »
They make a good point, actually. America's biggest oil supplier are indeed a bunch of oppresive, totalitarian Islamic fundamentalist loons, and therefore buying elsewhere whenever possible should be very strongly encouraged.

This was my first thought also. Then I noticed the gringeworthy objectification of lesbians and after reading the context from behind the link the ad became even more offputting: it is fighting the movement against the tar sand oil excavation. You know, the most toxic way to get oil.

Still, separate from this context I do approve the sentiment of putting economical pressure on the Saudi regime.

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« Reply #601 on: July 26, 2016, 06:17:18 pm »
Yeah the sediment is well and all but the message sucks hard.

Ironbite-like really  hard.

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« Reply #602 on: July 26, 2016, 11:45:51 pm »
Am I the only one who thinks it sounds like a South Park gag?

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« Reply #603 on: August 02, 2016, 02:50:36 am »
So if you've been following the conventions you probably heard the speech by the Khans, parents of a muslim american soldier who died in Iraq saving the rest of his unit.  Even if you weren't you probably heard Trump cruel attack on them that was low even for him.

But there is something even worse then Trump: Trump's supporters.  Two of them, Theodore and Walid Shoebat have started a conspiracy theory that the Khan family are actually members of the Muslim brotherhood.  Their Proof?  His father used the word sharia in some legal articles in the 80s and worked for a group helping Muslim immigrants.  This proves that Humayun Khan was actually a sleeper agent with a cunning plan to infiltrate the US military so he could... get killed by a suicide bomber saving other soldier's lives?  I what?

http://shoebat.com/2016/07/31/what-the-media-is-not-telling-you-about-the-muslim-who-attacked-donald-trump-he-is-a-muslim-brotherhood-agent-who-wants-to-advance-sharia-law-and-bring-muslims-into-the-united-states/

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« Reply #604 on: August 02, 2016, 11:11:36 am »
This is a Finnish text that is a guide to ethnic cleansing. https://sarastuslehti.com/2016/07/30/miten-etninen-puhdistus-toteutetaan/

I am not going to bother translating all of it since it is very long and disgusting, I am not sure if it already is a copy of a foreign text or if the two writers came up with it by themselves, but I wish to talk about the article...

First of all, the article is written with fancy sounding scientific and clinical words. They say"expulsive-exterminative ethnic cleansing" rather than genocide. They talk about "economic incentives," "'soft' doctrine" and start with "less extreme" methods of ethnic cleansing claiming that these are closer to European values of human rights and therefore preferable to genocide (though they never even use to word "kill" or "concentration camp" while talking about them.) In other words, this text has been written to appear clinical and distanced from the horrible reality that they try to defend genocide as a solution to Muslim immigration to Europe. This is the thing that disgusts me even more than their fantasies of genocide, they know how horrible their idea is and aren't able to use the real names for what they offer. They try to seem sophisticated and use scientific language as if that makes genocide less horrifying...

For a TL;DR version, they start by claiming as a fact that Muslims are taking over Europe and that this will end with them slaughtering the proper Europeans but they offer no evidence for these claims. Then having stated their "facts" they move on to explaining what ethnic cleansing means and offering step-by-step instructions for removing Muslims from Europe, either by turning them into second class citizens to make them not want to stay in Europe, violating UN and EU rulings on refugees to prevent more people from coming or removing them by force, genocide being the "final solution" if nothing else works. They also repeatedly claim that the longer it takes to start the ethnic cleansing the worse it will be and try to shift the guilt of these hypothetical acts onto those who have allowed Muslim refugees to enter Europe.

There is one particular bit that I will translate. The original:

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Käytännössä tuhoaminen tapahtuu kemiallisesti ja muodostuva biojäte hävitetään asianmukaisesti prosessoimalla joko krematorioissa tai biologisesti mädättämö-kompostointilaitoksissa. Sivutuotteena muodostuu tällöin joko energiaa tai biokaasua; kiinteät aineet prosessoidaan esim. maanparannusaineeksi tai maatalouden alkutuotannon lannoitetarpeisiin.

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In practice the destruction will occur chemically and the resulting organic waste will be disposed of appropriately by processing, either in crematorium or biologically in a putrefication-compost facility. The byproduct will then be either energy or biogas, solid matter will be processed for example as dressing or for agricultural needs as fertilizer.

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...That was their description of mass murder. The murder of men, women, children, entire families and nations. That is how they describe killing thousands of people and using their bodies to make biogas and then using the remains to fertilize tomatoes or something.

Somehow this is even more discussing than if they were openly fantasizing about gassing children to death. It's so... Clinical and industrialized, they try to remove all emotions out of mass murder and think that it makes it more acceptable.
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Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
« Reply #605 on: August 02, 2016, 05:31:39 pm »
Essentially, its the Heydrich of the group writing it - he would have been just as thorough and clinical if he was tasked with eliminating tennis players as he would if he was tasked to eliminate Muslims or Jews. The specifics of who is being exterminated do not matter - all that matters is getting it done as quickly, efficiently and mercilessly as possible. He doesn't care about anyone's lives.

I imagine he doesn't particularly care for other members of the Finnish Nationalist Groups, because they're not as smart as he is. Heydrich himself utterly despised most other Nazis.
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« Reply #606 on: August 02, 2016, 05:55:17 pm »
I read a post on the same site few months ago that was refreshingly self-aware. The writer admitted that the Islamic extremism and his own ideology are two sides of the same coin and if he was born in the Middle East he would probably end up wearing a bomb vest. He just thought that everyone needs to stand up for their own group and if it means bloodshed so be it.

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« Reply #607 on: August 03, 2016, 03:37:39 am »
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Re: Not-Good Things People Say on the Internet
« Reply #608 on: August 06, 2016, 06:29:04 pm »
Some context would be nice. I have no idea why that statement is bad, whether it's serious or a joke, what it's about, or who's saying it.
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« Reply #609 on: August 06, 2016, 11:14:13 pm »
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So women should become lesbians then?

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« Reply #610 on: August 07, 2016, 12:06:08 pm »
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« Reply #611 on: August 07, 2016, 09:57:09 pm »
When I pointed out Politifact's Truth-O-Meter ratings for Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump:

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« Reply #612 on: August 08, 2016, 12:33:36 am »
When I pointed out Politifact's Truth-O-Meter ratings for Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump:

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So basically you are saying [Hillary Clinton] is a politician who knows how to lie without lying. And [Donald Trump] is more of an average joe, inclined to examples of hyperbole to prove his point aka sterotypical [sic] american.

...that is not how lying, hyperbole, politicians or average joes work...
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« Reply #613 on: August 08, 2016, 12:39:20 am »
When I pointed out Politifact's Truth-O-Meter ratings for Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump:

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So basically you are saying [Hillary Clinton] is a politician who knows how to lie without lying. And [Donald Trump] is more of an average joe, inclined to examples of hyperbole to prove his point aka sterotypical [sic] american.

...that is not how lying, hyperbole, politicians or average joes work...

This is a guy who cites Infowars as a legitimate source.
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« Reply #614 on: August 08, 2016, 01:57:35 am »
At least he didn't claim that Politifact is shilling for Hillary or something.
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