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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2475 on: August 08, 2018, 04:32:27 pm »
The GOP is scared of Trump. He has an 85 percent approval rating in his party. They have to suck his dick to get elected.

Exactly. Look at Mark Sanford. He'd been one of the most consistent voices in speaking out against Trump (and he's on the low end for GOP Representatives in voting with Trump, at 71.1%, lower than any GOP Senator--Paul is the lowest at 74%--and all but four other GOP Representatives--Ros-Lehtinen, Massie, Amash, and Jones) and he lost his primary to someone who said that it was the Year of the Woman and the Year of Trump (contradictory much?). Jeff Flake (83.3% Trump) and Bob Corker (83.6% Trump) are also vocal and aren't even running again.

The GOP doesn't have to suck Trump's dick to get elected, they have to suck his dick to win their primaries, and then figure out how to win in the general when the voters have a far lower approval of Trump.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2476 on: August 08, 2018, 04:54:58 pm »
It seems the GOP is caught in a Catch 22 - first they have to appeal to some of the most disgusting, abhuman wastes of skin obsessed with Trump, and then they have to appeal to people who don't like Trump - which requires coming off as two-faced, shifting positions and denying previously held positions.

In other words, the same things that got Mitt Romney eviscerated in 2012.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2477 on: August 08, 2018, 07:03:54 pm »
And the reason they're losing special elections left and right and having races that should be in the bag for them come up as super competitive.

Ironbite-Ohio-12 for instance.

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« Reply #2478 on: August 09, 2018, 12:15:04 am »
https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/americans-views-media-2018-08-07

Ipsos released a poll about Americans' views of the press (and other matters). Notably, they asked about their agreement or disagreement with a few statements.

"Freedom of the press is essential for American democracy." -- 83% of Republicans, 93% of Democrats, and 84% of Independents agreed, 5%, 1%, and 4% respectively disagreed.

"Reporters should be protected from pressure from government or big business interests." -- 57%, 85% and 69% agreed, 18%, 4%, and 8% disagreed.

"Most news outlets try their best to produce honest reporting." -- 29%, 68%, and 46% agreed, 56%, 15%, and 31% disagreed.

"Freedom of speech is one of the values that makes America great." -- 89%, 93%, and 88% agreed, 4%, 2%, and 4% disagreed.

"It should be easier to sue reporters who knowingly publish false information." -- 85%, 63%, and 67% agreed, 4%, 14%, and 7% disagreed.

"The president should have the authority to close news outlets engaged in bad behavior." -- 43%, 12%, and 21% agreed, 36%, 74%, and 55% disagreed.

"News and reporters are necessary to keep the Trump administration honest." -- 39%, 83%, and 57% agreed, 35%, 4%, and 18% disagreed.

"Reporters should be shielded from prosecution by the Trump administration" -- 25%, 75%, and 50% agreed, 44%, 9%, and 22% disagreed.

"Most news outlets have a liberal bias." -- 80%, 23%, and 47% agreed, 5%, 35%, and 19% disagreed.

"The mainstream media treats President Trump unfairly." -- 79%, 11%, and 41% agreed, 9%, 75%, and 36% disagreed.

"The news media is the enemy of the American people." -- 48%, 12%, and 26% agreed, 28%, 74%, and 50% disagreed.

"President Trump should close down mainstream news outlets, like CNN, the Washington Post, and The New York Times." -- 23%, 8%, and 10% agreed, 49%, 86%, and 71% disagreed.

"When jobs are scarce, employers should prioritize hiring people of this country over immigrants." -- 82%, 41%, and 64% agreed, 5%, 21%, and 12% disagreed.

"America needs a strong leader to take the country back from the rich and powerful." -- 62%, 74%, and 67% agreed, 16%, 8%, and 10% disagreed.

"The American economy is rigged to advantage the rich and powerful." -- 46%, 82%, and 68% agreed, 29%, 6%, and 15% disagreed.

"Traditional parties and politicians don't care about me." -- 71%, 64%, and 79% agreed, 13%, 11%, and 7% disagreed.

"The mainstream media is more interested in making money than telling the truth." -- 84%, 33%, and 58% agreed, 6%, 44%, and 18% disagreed.

"I am proud to be an American." -- 94%, 73%, and 73% agreed, 2%, 11%, and 9% disagreed.

Insert alarmist rhetoric here.
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Being required by someone else’s religious beliefs to behave contrary to one’s sexual identity is degrading and disrespectful.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2479 on: August 21, 2018, 05:10:42 pm »
Manofort's guilty on 8 charges.

Ironbite-Cohen just spilled the beans on Trump....BEST PEOPLE!

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« Reply #2480 on: August 21, 2018, 05:54:25 pm »
Cohen's pleaded as well. Fucking hell how many criminals can you get together in one administration?

The big question is Manafort going to flip or is Trump going to pardon him. (Having said that Manafort seems to be one of the few people who have taken an old school approach to their criminality. That is if you get caught you do the time and don't squeal. If you do that it will be all waiting when you get back out).

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« Reply #2481 on: August 21, 2018, 06:21:29 pm »
"But these charges aren't related to Russia!"

1: Yes they are.
2: Even if they weren't, what you're saying is that these criminals should get away with it because the charges aren't exactly what Meuller is ostensibly investigating.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2482 on: August 21, 2018, 06:35:54 pm »
Who's saying these charges aren't related to Russia?

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« Reply #2483 on: August 21, 2018, 07:30:26 pm »
Trump of course.

Ironbite-and the Orange Piss Pot's supporters.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2484 on: August 21, 2018, 08:02:57 pm »
Can someone sum up how they are related? Not saying they aren't I just want to be educated on the matter.

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« Reply #2485 on: August 21, 2018, 09:57:44 pm »
Mueller's authority ranged far beyond just Russia.

As for pardons, Trump should be careful what he wishes for. If he pardons people, they can then be compelled to testify under oath with no 5th Amendment protections (since they can't face criminal charges).
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It doesn't concern you, Sister, that kind of absolutist view of the universe? Right and wrong determined solely by a single all-knowing, all powerful being whose judgment cannot be questioned and in whose name the most horrendous acts can be sanctioned without appeal?

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Being required by someone else’s religious beliefs to behave contrary to one’s sexual identity is degrading and disrespectful.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2486 on: August 22, 2018, 08:14:09 pm »
So bets on how long until Manafort is pardoned? I'd give it a few months, tops.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2487 on: August 22, 2018, 08:23:04 pm »
Yeah a pardon opens up all types of trouble though.  Such as being able to be questioned intensely over any dirty crimes that might have been done.

Ironbite-also Manafort's facing State charges that can't be pardoned so....

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« Reply #2488 on: August 22, 2018, 08:25:04 pm »
I mean, you say that stuff as if Trump understands what his pardons mean.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2489 on: August 22, 2018, 09:11:44 pm »
Trump sounds like he is in the mafia praising Manafort for 'not breaking'.