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Offline Kanzenkankaku

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2505 on: September 06, 2018, 03:48:36 am »
I think it was more, "We'll lose all credibility on the international stage."

Too late. (Granted this happened--or should have happened--when Obama ordered Gaddafi killed despite Bush promising to leave Gaddafi alone in exchange for his giving up his WMDs.)

The US cannot be trusted to keep its word. It can barely be trusted to stand by its properly-ratified international treaties.

EDIT: As for the mystery op-ed piece, I've heard some speculation that it's Pence, because he's one of the few (maybe the only) administration officials to use the term "lodestar".

I don't blame Obama for that. You can very readily order someone dead when they are killing their own people. Your word should never be that ironclad. As much as people love these idiotic words like honor and loyalty (to one's word or some such), I would rather a Democratic President not be totally beholden to them.

Keeping to your word is meaningless in the face of immediate imperatives such as preventing Gaddafi from going on with his massacres.

Silly liberal, you should blame Obama for everything!

Stub your toe? Obama did it!

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2506 on: September 06, 2018, 10:26:25 am »
If Pence did pen that article, he's setting himself up for failure.  Nobody likes Pence in political circles.  He doesn't win elections on a national scale.  Only reason Trump was forced to pick him as VP was because the GOP told him too.

Ironbite-well...that and Manafort.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2507 on: September 06, 2018, 01:01:02 pm »
Yah but Pence has said that he believes God talks to him and has chosen him to be the president of USA.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2508 on: September 09, 2018, 02:55:55 am »

So Vice put together a compilation of every successful US Supreme Court nominee from O'Connor on being asked about their views on abortion. (They did not include Rehnquist's hearings for his appointment as Chief Justice, though this may perhaps have been because he had already written in Roe and Doe in dissent; the full list is O'Connor, Scalia, Kennedy, Souter, Thomas, Ginsburg, Breyer, Roberts--directly as Chief Justice, Alito, Sotomayor, Kagan, and Gorsuch.)

It's interesting how the further left the justice is (let's not pretend that any of these people are non-ideological and actually just "calling balls and strikes") the more honest they are in answering the question.
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